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Submitted by Hitman0769 904d ago | news

New Data: PlayStation 3 is the Most Played Gaming Console, Global Console Sales to Decrease 19%

RealGamerNewz takes interest in new data revealed today about this console generation. Unfortunate news about downtrends in the industry, and active user data are statistically analyzed from this full press release. (Industry, PS3, Xbox 360)

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Shok  +   904d ago
Most likely due to the fact that the Wii and 360 haven't been shelling out many exclusives as of lately.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   904d ago
So exclusives do matter and PS3 owners do play and buy them.

The article uses percentage instead of actual numbers (44% for PS3, 40% for 360), but I still think the PS3 leads in actual number since the PS3 and 360 are close in worldwide sales.

EDIT: Actually the Wii might lead in actual numbers seeing as 30% of Wii owners use the console on a weekly basis and the fact that the Wii sold a ton of units.

***"Sales figures alone do not determine winners in this generation’s console competition,” adds Kantideep Thota, Analyst at Strategy Analytics. “Wii has sold the highest number of games consoles cumulatively; but Sony’s and Microsoft’s advancement in online game distribution and cross-platform integration grants them higher user engagement and a solid foundation for the next generation console war"***

Couldn't have agreed more with this quote.
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Abash  +   904d ago
It is my most played gaming console, and it'll keep being that way all this year with Starhawk, Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time, and PlayStation All-Stars
Arnon  +   904d ago
How are they accumulating this data? How do they have statistics for how many users are using a console for media or for actual gaming at a given time? I'm curious.

They would have to have knowledge of specific profits for not only companies like Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo, but knowledge of every company that distributes their products, and then have knowledge of every person who purchases said games, and then have knowledge of how many times that person is using the PS3 for actual gaming instead of any other feature that the PS3 has at any, given, time. Sorry, it doesn't sound believable. It's too broad of a percentage to actually be accurate.

It's probably some small survey that took data from 2000 people or so and equated that to the entire population of consoles sold.
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EVILDEAD360  +   903d ago
A Survey = The World...interesting how that works
'Additionally, this recent Strategy Analytics ConsumerMetrix survey shows that users of Sony’s PS3 games console showed the highest level of usage frequency, topping its two major competitors'

LMFAO @ at an anonymous survey from Strategic Analysts determining the console usage for ALL console owners on earth..FAIL

It is absolutely laughable that a survey can calculate the billion hour usage rate from well over 100 million consoles around the world.

Anytime you see 'Strategic Analysts' you know exactly what your going to get in terms of console predictions.

But, we know WHO will claim this is as fact from now on..lol

Evil
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TheRealHeisenberg  +   903d ago | Funny
@ Evil

"But, we know WHO will claim this is as fact from now on..lol"

To be fair, we also know WHO will claim this survey to be bogus too.
A-Glorious-Dawn  +   903d ago
Its funny how some people will question the integrity of a survey or data when it goes against their preferences, but will hop on other equally questionable pieces of data without second thought,,, VGchatz springs to mind...

The Hypocrisy not just on N4G but on many online communities is abysmal........

Evil, come on man,, we both know that if this data had shown the 360 to be the most used gaming console you would have jumped on it..

And for the record I completely agree with your points on the data's validity,,,,
YodaCracker  +   903d ago
Bad timing to put down the Xbox 360's lineup when it recently had three AAA titles release in the span of a week (Fez, Trials Evolution, and The Witcher II), none of which appear on the PS3.

This is pretty hilarious though to see people clinging to this article. The headline pulls the only good piece of info the article presented for the PS3. So if you believe this research, then surely you must also believe these other quotes from the article:

-“On the other hand, Xbox 360 appeals to a broader audience, as more consumers buy the Microsoft console for non-gaming as well as gaming functions.”

-“Last year, Xbox 360 sales beat PS3 globally, despite its relative weakness outside the US."

-"The report projects a decline in global Xbox 360 sales 13.8 million units in 2012; and PS3 sales will also fall, to 13 million units."
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MysticStrummer  +   903d ago
@EVILDEAD360 - We all know who would claim it was fact if it said something else, too.
Arnon  +   903d ago
Coming back to this comment board, and reading the comments... it's just sad. Please don't grasp on to this article, just for your own sake. There's no evidence, statistical factual data, or anything. It's sad. And if anyone actually reads anymore, the article contradicts itself.

It's clearly seen as a bogus statistic. Come on folks.
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Outside_ofthe_Box  +   903d ago
@Yodacracker

I didn't put down the 360's lineup up... Interesting how you got defensive pretty quick..

@Evil

Hadn't seen it was a survey thanks for bringing it up..

***"But, we know WHO will claim this is as fact from now on"***

Similar to how you claimed it was fact that the 360 sold at a higher average price than the PS3, but when Beatdown and I showed you that it wasn't necessarily the case you called us fan kiddies and trolls for doing so right?

lmao
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Statix  +   903d ago
@YodaCracker: Funny how you brag about the article stating that "more people buy the 360 for non-gaming functions" when you were probably among the first to put down the PS3 owners for "buying the console just for the Blu-ray." Way to spin the whole "casual gamer" angle around.

"Bad timing to put down the Xbox 360's lineup when it recently had three AAA titles release in the span of a week (Fez, Trials Evolution, and The Witcher II), none of which appear on the PS3."

PS3 came out with Twisted Metal, a new Yakuza game, and MLB '12 The Show thus far this year. What's your point? Also, what else does 360 have for the rest of the year, besides Halo?
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JellyJelly  +   903d ago
They probably measure how many users have logged on to PSN/Xbox Live during a set period, which makes it a bit skewed since lots of people play offline and you can have a PSN or Xbox Live account without owning a 360 or PS3.
pixelsword  +   903d ago
[EVILDEAD360]

"A Survey = The World...interesting how that works"

[PIXELSWORD]

"US Console Sales = The World...interesting how that works, too..." ;)
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EVILDEAD360  +   903d ago
'Similar to how you claimed it was fact that the 360 sold at a higher average price than the PS3, but when Beatdown and I showed you that it wasn't necessarily the case you called us fan kiddies and trolls for doing so right?'

@ Outside

Epic FAIL..let me jog your memory on what actually happened. You and your twin profiles were arguing semantics and sales with someone else..I just laughed about. Because it really was funny.

On topic..

Look..You will NEVER see me pretending an unsubstantiated anonymous online survey is fact no matter what the outcome. Anyone whose ever really dealt with surveys ie. In college or in the workplace know what has to go into proving the validity of one. It's easy to make erroneous claims..but its another thing entirely to prove those claims..especially without sample size etc.

As for my statement of WHO will treat it immediately as fact..well the proof is in the pudding.

Anybody whose been on N4G.com long enough will see people using fake stats from unproven surveys as statistical fact. This hilariously will be no different.

The funny part is it could go either way. You could easily argue for either console as to which is played the most globally, but if you believe that THIS particuliar data is proven from a survey than you might be alot more gullable than you think.

Fight your console war..I'm keeping it real

You can't argue when a Netflix says hey more people use Netflix on the PS3 than the 360. That comes from their direct data.

You can prove hourly use or amount of gamers who are playing say a Call of Duty online over Live or PSN.

In fact, when players played in the the Billionth Halo 3 match online, Bungie had the playtime stats down to the second. For the record it was Two Trillion seconds equating to 64,109 years of playtime..

But let's face it online gaming survey with the state of the gaming internet as it is like pretending 100% of the user reviews on Metacritic are valid.

Just my opinion..believe what you want

Evil

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@ pixel..

"US Console Sales = The World...interesting how that works, too..." ;

That was the whole point of the joke...no one has ever made this claim, but it's laughable to this day that in almost every NPD result article someone points it out..But now that you have a bold claim of a survey that = The world..crickets...lol
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thats_just_prime  +   903d ago
Who still be taking this all that serious if you known the analyst was patcher ? This is some random guy in a suit looking at a very small % of the numbers and then making his best guess. Odds are they only looked at numbers from ps3, xbox and maybe wii ingoring the handheld and pc market complete. Everyone with 2 brain cells knowns that pc is the most played
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   903d ago
@Evil

I don't have another account. This is my only account. Isn't DK your multi? Or am I not allowed to make false claims like you do? You seem to do that all the time. When ever two or more people make arguments against you, you always assume they are multi accounts...

And saying you just "laughed" about it is a lie. You called me a trolling fan kiddie with an agenda. Besides you said DK "destroyed" us meaning you agreed with what he was saying. Also I wasn't arguing either was just enjoying it until you commented.. I think your memory needs to be jogged...

http://n4g.com/news/978751/...

Anywho... the title of the article needs to be changed to "New Survey:" if it isn't to late to do so...
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ShinMaster  +   903d ago
AND HERE WE GO AGAIN!
* Some people will claim that these stats don't count because they don't favor their system of preference yadda yadda yadda....

* Others will say that they wouldn't be saying the same thing if it did favor their system blah blah blah....

* Some will claim that certain people will use these stats as facts (even though no one has yet) etc etc etc....

It's the same thing all the time.
This situation wouldn't be any different if it was reversed because fanboys will be fanboys and will either go "yay" or "nay" whenever convenient.

Who cares. Some poeple need to stop being so sensitive and threatened.
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MrBeatdown  +   903d ago
@EVILDEAD

"Epic FAIL..let me jog your memory on what actually happened. You and your twin profiles were arguing semantics and sales with someone else..I just laughed about. Because it really was funny."

Evil, you must be really desperate for material. What is this? The fifth or six time you've claimed I've had alternate accounts? You seem to like spreading lies and misinformation, just like when you said I was "trolling" Mass Effect 3 articles by posting spoilers even though I put clear spoiler warnings. Not to mention that I received mainly agrees, so clearly nobody but you perceived, or tried to pass it off as trolling.

It never ceases to amaze me that someone who calls everyone "fan kids", manufacturers BS about other users like me and Outside and tries to pass it off as fact, and constantly replies to the first comment on any article, just to get his posts as close to the top as possible manages to maintain six bubbles.

I'd bet all my bubbles that I don't have an alternate account, and I'd welcome any mod here to look into it and confirm if they have the ability. I doubt you're confident enough in the lies you go around spewing that you'd be willing to put your money where your mouth is.
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kreate  +   903d ago
so... DK is Evildead360's alternative account?
geez.. i cant believe both accounts has all those bubbles when the comments are borderline trolling.

on topic: i dont understand why this statistic is that much of a deal to a xbox fanboy i mean the numbers are so close. 40% to 44%?

its nothing to be worked up about.
Drake117  +   903d ago
Love ppl that say VGChartz is unreliable but then go on to believe every word of this.
EVILDEAD360  +   903d ago
'I think your memory needs to be jogged'

@ Outside

LOL..failure continues down the epic path.

You literally backpedaled on ur own story and still provided the link that proves you wrong.

You first wrote..

'Similar to how YOU claimed it was fact that the 360 sold at a higher average price than the PS3'

Not only did this NOT happen.you provided the link that literally proved without a shadow of the doubt it did not happen.

The best part is you backpedaling on very next comment by saying

'Besides you said DK "destroyed" us meaning you agreed with what he was saying.'

LOL @ First it's 'YOU CLAIMED...' Then it's YOU made a claim because 'You said he destroyed us'

Noticed how you used the word 'Us'.when your link proves I was talking about Beatdown.

Here's MY original quote..

'DK destroyed all 3 of you..AND Outside following up when you run out of bubbles looks strangley familiar'

You werent even one of the 3 I was talking about..but somehow you remembered being one of them. What I say afterwards is in response to whatever you come at me with..nothing more nothing less.

I just joke about the FACT that you two are Twin profiles..and ANYBODy can look at your past from that link back and see that whenever one of you is being addressed or starts running out of bubbles..the other shows up like magic out of nowhere.

Look at THAT link..I was joking about Beatdown and Outside jumped in out of nowhere. Look it up..count how many articles you both 'magically' appear in and do EXACTLY the same thing.

Nuff said..Beatdown let it go..everything that needed to be said about those old articles had been said. You are still bickering about them to this day. Just simply re-read what was written..nuff said.

On topic..

Again..the points were simply made about the survey. I made my points.not one was disputed and at the end of the day it definately isnt some end of the world argument either way. It's definately not that serious.

Sorry folks it's al me 2000+ posts and counting..I don't need a sidekick..I'm just a fan of gaming and N4G is definately the most entertaining gaming site out there..

Evil is definately entertained
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MrBeatdown  +   903d ago
@EVILDEAD

"Nuff said..Beatdown let it go..everything that needed to be said about those old articles had been said. You are still bickering about them to this day. Just simply re-read what was written..nuff said. "

Let it go? You continue to insinuate I have multiple accounts. Lying, joking... it doesn't matter what you want to call it. It's trolling, and it's simply spreading lies. It's kind of funny that now that I call you on it, and even invite a mod to prove you wrong, you change your tune and now you call it a joke.

And I'll continue to take issue with it until you grow up and shut up about it, or a mod shuts you up so the rest of us don't have to watch you derail a thread with your childish immaturity and personal attacks.

And you've lied about my comments in the past to paint me in a negative light because you couldn't argue on pure facts. You try to paint me as something I'm not and you continue to do it, even here, so I'll continue to bring these things up as a reminder to everyone here of just what a troll you truly are.

Not only that, but you've been pulling the multiple account BS long before Outside ever replied to one of my comments. Once again, you're manufacturing BS to suit your own agenda. Outside has responded to my comments only a handful of times. One example was the one he linked to. The other is the one where you lied about me "running around trolling Mass Effect 3 articles with spoilers". Go ahead and dig up some more examples if you are so confident that Outside always shows up when I'm low on bubbles. For once, put your money where your mouth is.

And you know, maybe if you didn't create a spectacle out of everything you had to say by posting it as close to the top as possible in nearly every article you post in, regardless of how relevant it is to the one you are replying to, as you did here, you'd be less likely to get a response from me or Outside.

Fact is, it's just more nonsense and drivel from you that you try to pass off as fact.

You can't stick to real facts or the topic at hand. Instead, you do things like bring up BS about multiple accounts, and outright lying about the content of my posts to distract from the actual discussion. You pull this BS about "keeping it real" and that you're above any fanboy nonsense, yet the hilarious thing is that you actually perpetuate it because you're a troll. Hell, you did it in this very article...

"But, we know WHO will claim this is as fact from now on..lol"

Rather than just state your opinion, you had to end the comment with an attempt to troll anyone who disagreed with you. Classic EVILDEAD. Why that kind of crap gets a free pass around here is beyond me.
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A-Glorious-Dawn  +   902d ago
LOL quick thinking there evil...

Nobody can see through that
NastyLeftHook0  +   904d ago
AND BINGO WAS HIS NAME OH
TheTwelve  +   903d ago
Why did this make me laugh? o.O
ChrisW  +   904d ago
I wonder what the difference for duration of usage and frequency during that "a week" period is?

Remember, some people play almost every day. And there are some who play for several hours during a single gaming session, even if it's only once a week.

It'd be nice to see what the statistics are concerning that... otherwise it doesn't seem like a very valid statistical argument to claim which is the "most played" console.
xPhearR3dx  +   903d ago
Even then, the data will never be 100% accurate or even close. I'm sure there's thousands of PS3, Wii and 360 owners that don't connect their system online. Without being connected online, there's no way of telling how much usage those people get out of said console.

Not only that, but the PS3 being only 4% higher with a much bigger list of exclusives isn't all that impressive.
EVILDEAD360  +   903d ago
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Bowzabub  +   903d ago
Probably because PS3 gamers don't get put on "timeout".
Crystallis  +   903d ago
LOL! I found that very funny.
Bowzabub  +   903d ago
Well the original joke was longer but i'm gonna set it off to the side as dlc. ;)
cr33ping_death  +   903d ago
ill wait on your joke, its probably just a timed exclusive :)
MaxXAttaxX  +   903d ago
Damn, 3 in a row!
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http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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DFresh  +   903d ago
Yeah also Microsoft is focused too much on Kinect and Nintendo is preparing for the Wii U so the lack of exclusives on the Wii this year is understandable.
Microsoft really needs to bring some exclusives to the table that aren't Kinect related.
Lilioups   903d ago | Trolling | show
GamingPerson  +   903d ago
ps3 most played console!
pc is the most played pc!

ps3 > 360
pc > pc
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NewZealander  +   903d ago
i havnt played my ps3 in ages, uncharted 3 was the last game i played on it, most of my friends own 360's so i tend to buy most games for xbox, so i can play online with them.

ps3 has some awesome games but i only buy the occasional exclusive, everything else i buy on 360.
Rage_S90  +   903d ago
Anecdotal.
mobhit  +   903d ago
So Arnon, are you claiming this article to be wrong? Because surveys like this were posted on N4G before and they were skewed towards the 360. Yet I didn't hear you mention anything about not grasping straws when it came to the article.

I'm not surprised that the PS3 is the most played console. It has a crapload of exclusives.
mobhit  +   903d ago
Evil also seems to write these really long novels. It's almost as if he's about to cry.
catfrog  +   903d ago
this same thing has been reported many times over the past few years, ps3 has been the most played console for a few years in a row now
basilezz3030   904d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(2)
sunkisses  +   904d ago
i'm pretty sure the xbox 360 is but whatever, i'm really looking forward to next gen so i hope this "new data" is false.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   904d ago
The decrease is to be expected though seeing as we are 6-7 years into this generation. As for the Wii U I think E3 will determine it's launch sales.
Hoje0308  +   904d ago
I'll take actual data over your hunch.
ChrisW  +   904d ago
It may be actual data, but it could also be selective data. A lot can happen in a week, but how much and how often? I won't deny that more PS3 owners play on "a weekly basis", that's what the statistics say. But wouldn't it be nice to also know if it's the most frequently played in a week period and for the longest periods of time? That's what's missing from this data.
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ChrisW  +   903d ago
Just a wee bit curious as to how I can get disagrees for saying, "But wouldn't it be nice to also know if it [the PS3] is the most frequently played in a week period and for the longest periods of time?"
PirateThom  +   904d ago
Oh, well, as long as you're "pretty sure", that's way better than market research...
Hoje0308  +   904d ago
And if he's looking forward to next gen anyway, why would he hope this "new data" (he really doesn't trust reliable information for some reason) is false? My guess is sunkisses comes from a gene pool that's been peed in a few times.
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GezForce  +   904d ago
lol
AusRogo  +   904d ago
Wow I didnt know that! Thats awesome. Proud owner since 07 and hasnt skipped a beat! Cant wait for e3, I want to see some The Last Of Us footage! I love Naughty Dog.
SegaKnuckles86   904d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(4)
Ethereal  +   904d ago
I agree with most of the comments thus far. Sony has by far been the choice for platform exclusives this generation. They continually take risks with games and devs (Journey, Heavy Rain Etc.) Yea they may not sell like the xbox 360 exclusives but we are hear to talk about games, not numbers. Sony is going to continue to offer amazing exclusives this year(Starhawk, The Last Guardian, The Last of US, Sly, PlayStation All Stars, Sorcery, DUST 514, FFXIV and probably other unannounced) and even next year(God of War, and Ni No Kuni). I mean what is not to love about PlayStation right now? Very happy fan here. Games is what we play people not numbers =)
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jessupj  +   904d ago
I'm not trying to be a fanboy, but it honestly perplexes me how many people buy a 360 over a PS3.

You'd think gamers would be buying the console with the most varied, quality exclusives.
Bladesfist  +   904d ago
Gamers buy what there friends have, Same reason why people who buy iphones over cheaper better phones (Android) confuse me.
tokugawa  +   903d ago
perhaps, it is because most of these "exclusives" are just forgettable?? and dont reaaly matter outside of n4g..

amazing, but most probably true! we'll use the biggest selling franchise on the ps3 as an example shall we. cod, each one has outsold any AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA sony exclusive! it must be this variety and quality that make the difference right??

oh wait..
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Ethereal  +   903d ago
Well again your going into the numbers...oh cares about how many they sell. When did that ever become relevant? Do you personally benefit if a game sells well or not? Do you benefit getting a diverse catalog with different genres of options? I think yes. Stop looking at numbers and sales. Think about the games...new "gamers" just don't get the roots of this industry.
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Gamer3000  +   904d ago
"PlayStation 3 is the Most Played Gaming Console"
hahaha why i'm not surprised
Tommy334  +   904d ago
People forget majority/Millions of those 360 sales have come from previous owners who already owned a 360. The 360 really without the RROD is at around 45million users instead over 60million sales like the ps3.
mayberry  +   903d ago
i know! huh! just got a 360 recently and it just broke after 4 months of playing it about 3 times a week! (disc door wont stay closed-even when turned off), my launch 60g ps3 is on at least 6 hours a day, and is still BOSS!
Omnislash   904d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(2)
DiRtY  +   904d ago
It is a survey guys. They probably asked 2000 people and calculated up to 220 million current-gen-console-users. And there is a 4% gap?!

Yet they are predicting that the Xbox 360 will outsell the PS3 again in 2012.

Serious question: I am a gamer for 17 years now. I never ever took part in a survey like this. What about you guys? Every now and then there is a news 'according to a survey' popping up. They must have asked somebody!
Moentjers  +   904d ago
I'm subscribed to an organisation and I get regular questionnaires about various subject. But I have to admit, never about games...
BrianG  +   903d ago
I have participated in several gaming surveys over the past few years. Surveys about game box art, concepts, system features, playing preferences, etc...

I used a few survey sites like Swagbucks, MyPointz, etc...

I've even received a Playstation survey or two via email for the rewards program that never took off and for Plus.
Sheikh Yerbouti  +   903d ago
I wonder what are the sample's demographics. Probably looks nothing like me.
baodeus  +   904d ago
I don't know, i still see CoD at number 1 on any sell chart on Ps3 around the world. If it is about exclusives, shouldn't CoD be dead already on Ps3?
BlackTar187  +   903d ago
I think your missing the entire point. The exclusives don't have to be the #1 seller in order for them to be relevant. Something people can't seem to wrap their head around on here N4G.com.
hardcorehippiez  +   903d ago
umm here's a thought , maybe ps3 owners like exclusives and cod . huh no way , could never happen right ?
ive roughly 100 games now for my ps3 and id say a good half of them are exclusive but despite what some think i play multiplats as well ( as im sure most ps3 owners do) which cod is although ive moved on to bf3 because im sick of cod since black ops . More games equals more choice and further dilutes the amount of games 1 can buy and so skew the sales figures not that it matters cos the games i like seem to be selling enough to warrant sequels and as a gamer the more games the better .
Fylus  +   903d ago
Exactly.

I own Killzone 3 AND Battlefield 3. Both are amazing shooters.

I own Demon's Souls, and I also own Dark Souls. They're both F**king awesome.
Sheikh Yerbouti  +   903d ago
Imagine playing games other than Call of Duty or FPS in general. Imagine those games are Uncharted, Infamous, God of War...easy for me anyways.
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kma2k  +   904d ago
i have both ps3 & 360 consoles so i can form a relatively unbaised view. I would assume they are taking these statistics from online conected systems, my understanding is a decent amount of people still arent connected online. Whild i dont think to many people are still playing there wii most people i know dont even have there wii conected online. Also the sales for 360 i know majority of friends i know have said im on my "2nd, or 3rd 360" new unit sales which to me does inflate xbox numbers & has been for a few years. Im not bashing either system in any way i love both my 360 & my ps3, but truth of the matter is i dont know any of my friends that have had to repurchase there ps3 im not saying it dosent happen just i dont peronsally know any.

Anybody doubting my xbox allegence check out my screenname i play on my 360 & ps3 dailey.
ElementX  +   904d ago
It was a survey, not connected systems. Besides PS3 has Folding@home, which people may leave running for weeks at a time which would skew the results based on connected systems.
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duplissi  +   903d ago
thats assuming people still use folding@home on their ps3... i havent touched the feature in over a year.
BlackTar187  +   903d ago
lol elementx you are so angry about this article.

LOL he mad
mr_badhand   904d ago | Trolling | show
ElementX  +   904d ago
Surveys aren't reliable, it's a fact. You can't estimate an entire population's behaviors based off a small test group, there are too many variables to consider.
ElementX  +   904d ago
I don't know why I'm getting disagrees. It would be like saying the 360 is the best selling console because it sells the most in the US. You aren't taking into account the rest of the world. Same thing with surveys, you look at a small group and assume it represents what everyone else is doing.
Bladesfist  +   904d ago
You get disagress because of fanboyism, I could make a survey dsiplay any figure I wanted, I would just need to target the right people.
LightofDarkness  +   904d ago
Stop with your common sense, this is a time for Sony fans to grandstand and stick their tongues out at every body, and say haughty, elitist things like "well, it DOES have the most exclusives, ha" or "I just can't understand why anyone wouldn't own one, to be honest." And then tomorrow they can complain about NPD numbers not representing the world, just America, and not see the hypocrisy at all.

I make fun, but it's damn entertaining. That's why I've been coming here for over 5 years :p
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dcbronco  +   903d ago
But Sony does have the most exclusives. And some of them actually sell. That new battle royale game everyone is talking about is going to be awesome. It will probably only sell half a million copies. But it is exclusive and that means it's great.

Forget this nonsense. I'm going to play Twisted Metal....did anyone hear a tree fall?
Hicken  +   903d ago
Statistics are reliable to a point. The more you narrow down the criteria your survey participants must meet, the more accurate the numbers become. And the larger the sample, the more likely it is that what's revealed as a trend within the survey is an accurate representation of the entire population.

That said, instead of questioning the validity of the survey, dcbronco and others would be praising it if it instead pointed to the 360 being the more played system.
pixelsword  +   903d ago
@ Elle:

"It would be like saying the 360 is the best selling console because it sells the most in the US"

But that's exactly what people have been saying month after month for nearly six years now; fanboy and shoddy reporter alike.
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BrianG  +   903d ago
Why are you assuming it was a small group?

Your doing exactly what you claim the survey is doing.
EVILDEAD360  +   903d ago
LightofDarkness FTW..
'I make fun, but it's damn entertaining. That's why I've been coming here for over 5 years :p'

Your post nailed it..the entertainment value of it is classic..

@ Pixelsword

'But that's exactly what people have been saying month after month for nearly six years now; fanboy and shoddy reporter alike.'

IMO..You actually got it COMPLETELY wrong...The complete OPPOSITE is true..You don't see a huge bunch a fans claiming NPD IS the world EVER. But, what you have seen for YEARS is a segment of people who time and time point out the obvious that NPD ISN'T the world..but that's what fun about THIS article and the replies..and like Light pointed out here as well..the actual hypocrisy of it.

Again at the end of the day..it is what it is..same stuff different day..but entertaining nonetheless..

Evil
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Outside_ofthe_Box  +   903d ago
The funny thing is that hypocrisy goes both ways. And seeing people ignore that is even more entertaining.

I mean, how many times have I seen people bring a link to 2011 console WW sales when people are talking about this year's WW sales?

Look @ dcbronco's comment right there. Where are the so called 'neutral' guys/'non-fanboys'?

But of course people turn a blind eye to it... lol

@ElementX

People have tried to say that the U.S and U.K are more important than worldwide sales because they are the biggest markets in their respective continents before, but like always it goes undetected.
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Fez  +   904d ago
Rabid fanboys on the prowl for rational comments - they found you ElementX! Run!
Moentjers  +   903d ago
Ok, why I gave you a disagree: NOT ALL surveys are reliable but most of them are within certain limits (see statistics department).

When I went out to question people, I had to follow a strikt list with certain criteria: # employed, # student, # < 21 years, # single...

The list reflected the demographics of our country.
LightofDarkness  +   903d ago
And which country is that?
DasTier  +   903d ago
@ Light of Darkness THE COUNTRY OF THE POTATO PEOPLE! OBVIOUSLY.

-EDIT- Mr Flibble is very cross...
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Moentjers  +   903d ago
@ujean69: lol, right. Let's say we eat a lot of fries :-)

check it out: Gallup Europe, iVox
BlackTar187  +   903d ago
LOl at this list of haters under the fanboy second in command elementx

You guys need to find a better person to jump on board with.
Straw polls aren't reliable, because anyone with access can answer the questions (one straw poll during the 2008 presidential election had McCain taking all 50 states, we see how that turned out).
A lot of people with a lot of PhDs put a lot of work into making sure these surveys get a representative sample of the total population. The margin of error comes from a lack of precision inherent in the sample size (smaller sample = less data = less precise results).
This is really basic stuff. How does anyone not know this?
h311rais3r  +   904d ago
Great news for Sony. Microsoft should still be proud of their console regardless. They are doing a good job avoiding fanboyism. Even Nintendo. All company's consoles are doing great. All have their benefits and all have their downs. Point is enjoy gaming regardless. It's a blessing.
mathsman  +   904d ago
There's no way of actually determining such figures as fact, by the way. Not everyone has their console hooked up to the internet all the time, so sales figures are a more accurate measure.
tommygunzII  +   903d ago
How many games can you actually play on 360 without being connected to Xbox live? If anybody could have benefited from this survey it would have been xbox.
mathsman  +   903d ago
95% of them. There's only a handful that are multiplayer-only, and broadband is still in less than 70% of homes in the UK.
DasTier  +   903d ago
All of the games you have bought on that console. You only need access to live if you've transferred them. Even then you can change your settings so that you can play those games offline.

@MathsMan but yes you obviously cant play a live multi player only game offline and as you say there's not many of those.
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Jazz4108  +   904d ago
It also says in the article that the 360 is the most widely used console which contradicts the ps3, if you read the article it says a lot mo rere positive things about the 360 then the ps3 so I wouldn't be to happy about this little survey if I was bagging on the ps3. Just read the article.
HavenDan  +   904d ago
Not surprised really...
BlmThug  +   903d ago
Most statistics are inaccurate and bullshit, not hating on Sony or anything, I just dont believe these 'surveys' and 'stats'
vikingland1  +   903d ago
I must say MS could learn from Sony and back their system with exclusives all the way to the end of the systems lifecycle. Instead they chose to shove Kinect games down our throats. MS have easily as many Kinect exclusives as Sony has exclusives. But too bad I would rather play games with my controller than with the Kinect. Good job Sony.
MagnumPI  +   903d ago
It has a lot of valid points
ZBlacktt  +   903d ago
This story means nothing at all. It's projections of assumptions. It also says one thing for one console. Only to turn around and claim something for the other. But I know on this site, console wars are everything.

It's says:

XBox to sell 13.8 million consoles, PS3 13 million.

PS3 s slightly more popular among core gamers than Xbox 360.

XBox 360 appeals to a broader audience, as more consumers buy the Microsoft console for non-gaming as well as gaming functions.”

Again, in other words, both are still neck and neck and one is not over the other so much.
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ExCest  +   903d ago
I kinda thought the PS3 was the one with more of the non-gaming department. The fact that it is now a bluray player (a cheap one in fact) makes it a very viable choice in anything other than gaming. In addition, it basically has the whole entertainment part down with the little apps and whatnot. So it perplexes me to see that this article says that XBOX appeals to non-gaming.
ZBlacktt  +   903d ago
I would think the same thing as well. It's labeled as the entertainment console. More so why this story really means nothing. :/
AngelicIceDiamond  +   903d ago
People are playing more games on the PlayStation than the Xbox. Though a 4% difference is a very small gap in between it just means that over all gaming is more popular on the PlayStation thanks its exclusives (Sales don't matter, its obvious ppl are playing there exclusives, or any games in general on the PlayStation.) I saw this coming, Xbox being more of broad console. people have different reasons to buy a Xbox whether its gaming or the apps and entertainment. Despite it all both 360 and PlayStation are monsters in ppls entertainment lives.
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Lilioups  +   903d ago
is that a surprise?
The ps3 ALWAYS outsold 360 WORLDWIDE since launch
do the numbers...if sony released the ps3 same time as the 360 it would be second spot

And dont forget the RROD=360 boost sales
The U.S think just because the 360 do good there it is everywhere like that....well its not europe and asia is sony controled.
i3eyond the Circle  +   903d ago
Lol...No in terms of online gaming.

I wouldn't put it past it being played more offline
ChunkyLover53  +   903d ago
To be honest, I usually avoid articles like this. How in the world can you track something like this? I mean my Wii isn't even connected to the internet and I am not always signed in on PSN or XBL when I play games either.

It seems like this might be kind of random, plus it begs the question. Who cares?
gtxgamer2  +   903d ago
Sony 4 life<3
wildcat  +   903d ago
Dear PlayStation 3,

My love for you is like a torrent of rushing water in the spring. Your unlimited store of games are like an endless outpouring of refreshing stream, rushing down from the snow-capped mountains bathed with new sunlight, to assuage my thirst and to ease my suffering. I grow ever thirsty for you, and to play you is to seek refuge in an oasis of shade and water amidst the harsh desert sun. Pour over me now, for I grow hot without you.

Forever Yours,

wildcat
Sheikh Yerbouti  +   903d ago
way g'eh
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Xenomorph  +   903d ago
This just in from "Some unaccredited gaming website". We can all expect a dip, but then huge games come out and blow sales records. Maybe consoles are on the slight decline, but games themselves will always sell a massive amount. Want to talk about a flopping industry look to cinema.
OGNeckleather  +   903d ago
I have owned almost every console ever made.Have never been a fanboy of any kind and have met many gamers in my time.Im here to tell you that there is no way in he** the PS3 gets played more than 360...its impossible.Deal with it Sony fanboys...your system of choice is inferior to xbox..in every way.Does that make u an inferior human being?Of course not,so stop acting like people are disrespecting you because of your choice in console.Yes im ranting right now,but after reading the N4G forums for over a year now,i have come to this conclusion....these forums are full of whiney children.Have fun commenting on this,im sure there is at least one whiner with a complaint.haha
MakeBelieve  +   903d ago
Well Im in my 30's; Im not a whiney kid.

I own both consoles.

You saying "deal with it Sony fanboys" proves to me that YOU are an xbox fanboy, and your rant is like a "whiney kid."

Grow up man, and try to calm down. If you prefer the xbox then so be it. Ranting on against Sony fans is not the answer. I prefer PS3 but Im not disrespecting people.
MysticStrummer  +   903d ago
Of course it's possible. I know multiple people who bought 360s just because 360 launched first and got tired of replacing them when they broke down. None of them own a 360 now and none of them thought XBL was worth paying for, so your opinion of which console is best isn't gospel. It's ironic that you bring up disrespect since that's exactly what you're doing. You enjoy your 360. Hoo-ray for you. Not everyone agrees. Deal with it.
ufo8mycat  +   903d ago
Sony fans system of choice being the PS3 is actually the correct one, not the inferior one.

What GREAT games can I get on 360 that I can't get on PS3? Gears

What GREAT games can I get on PS3 that I can't get on 360 - Too many to list

Yeah I am pretty sure the inferior system of choice is the 360.
Sheikh Yerbouti  +   903d ago
Alan Wake, Forza, Fable, Halo, Kinect...OK Sony has them on quality and quantity, but these are reasons to have 360 anyway.

I'm sure you don't play every Sony exclusive, do you? BTW, I don't own a 360, but I wouldn't turn down a free one either.
chobit_A5HL3Y  +   903d ago
@ OG your reply is so ironic... anyways~ don't forget to tuck your 360 in and give the controller a "good night kissy" :3
BubloZX  +   901d ago
lool fanboy is ogneckleather. the ps3 has shown the world that when it comes to HD console gaming its number 1. and after looking at current worldwide sales the 360 is down by 800,000 consoles. that means the gap is now about 1 million
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