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Submitted by SilleGamer 843d ago | rumor

Xbox 720 Devkit Specs Detailed, Includes 16-Core Processor, AMD Radeon HD 7000-series GPU

SilleGamer.com

''Discrete sources have confirmed to Xbox World Magazine that Xbox 720 devkits were shipped to various developers in March, and have detailed an impressive set of specs for the next generation console.'' (Microsoft, Next-Gen)

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mrshooter2k12  +   843d ago
Powerhouse console confirmed if true
ZidaneNL  +   843d ago
Don't overestimate the next generation, though. Various companies have mentioned that the graphical "jump" to the next generation won't be as big as the one we had in 2005.

I hope the next generation will focus on proper multitasking. With 16 cores that's more than possible. Each core can handle a specific task.
CarlitoBrigante   843d ago | Trolling | show
PLASTICA-MAN  +   843d ago
That is cool to read. So even the multiplatform games will look phenomenal, let alone exclusive games.
limewax  +   843d ago
That's some serious fanboy glasses there Carlito, You really think MS will release a console weaker than the current gen.....So why would they even release one? There would be no point.

And by the way the Wii-U below PS3? Dream on, I can link you to some pages providing info showing the Wii-U is expected to be at around 6x the power of the current gen, reliable sources. But that would break you heart
Mr_cheese  +   843d ago
@limewax that's not going to be true. Devs have been reporting that the wiiU will offer the same graphics as a ps3 but won't be capable as much.
Ocelot525  +   843d ago
what are you talking about ? Firsly : even single core cpu's can handle multitasking (trough timesharing for example, this isn't the 80's you know)

secondly, the current gen can already do proper realtime multitasking, on the PS3 you can spread 14 threads (6 vector processors, and each one can handle 2 threads at once + the PPU) and on the 360 6 ( 3 cores, 2 threads / core).
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Dante112  +   843d ago
LOL, 16 cores? I wonder how much this will retail for if true? $600-800 console confirmed.

Also from the article

"Discrete sources at GDC also confirmed to the publication that developers expect Sony’s Playstation 4 to be more powerful than the next Xbox, and that various studios are aiming to unveil their next generation software at E3 2012 in June"

Calling BS on this article. If the PS4 is gonna be powerful than this (16 is already kinda unlikey) what will it have, 32 cores and 4 GPUs lol?
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MAJ0R  +   843d ago
SIXTEEN CORE PROCESSORS for $600-800? Try over $2,000. The i7 990x is a 6 core proccessor and it retails at around $1,000. I just refuse to believe this.

http://www.amazon.com/Intel...
Dasteru  +   843d ago
@MAJOR:

That doesn't mean anything. AMD already has an 8 core CPU for $250

http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

Also cores are only 1 small aspect of determining how powerful a CPU is. Simply having 16 cores doesn't necessarily make it more powerful than another CPU with half as many cores nor does it automatically make it more or even as expensive.

Also remember that this isn't being released til the end of 2013 based on current rumors and with the evolution of computing hardware every 4-5 months. chances are the CPU used in Durango will only cost MS about $50 per unit in bulk, If that.
NewMonday  +   843d ago
this could explain something:

"..Kinect 2 could chew up four whole cores tracking multiple players right down to their fingertips, so it’ll need a lot of power.”

is their a possibility the NexTBox could rune a closed version of W8? that would be one curve ball
MaxXAttaxX  +   843d ago
That's crazy:
"Discrete sources at GDC also confirmed to the publication that developers expect Sony’s Playstation 4 to be more powerful than the next Xbox, and that various studios are aiming to unveil their next generation software at E3 2012 in June, regardless of whether “Microsoft and Sony are ready or not.”"
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So we will be seeing next-gen games and tech demos this E3 already?
I know it's a rumour. But I also hope to see new info on next gen systems.
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superrey19  +   843d ago
16 core processor? I don't think so... not even $1000 pc cpu's have more than 8.

@dasteru

4 core Intel i7's smoke AMD's 8 core cpus.
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IaMs12  +   843d ago
i could see this coming true. Just because its 16 cores doesnt make it the best thing, it just means it can multitask very well. Its engineering, maybe this redesigned console with 16 cores may not be as fast as a 4 core CPU but it might be more efficient at handling things.
arjman  +   843d ago
Carlito, you're fanboy-vision shames your namesake, Carlito Caribbean Cool, you're not cool (spits apple in face).
Dasteru  +   843d ago
@superrey19: For general processing yes they do and that is exactly my point, More cores does not necessarily mean more powerful or more expensive.

As for gaming, it has been proven time after time that most Intel CPU's only give a slightly better performance in games, Most games simply aren't coded to fully utilize all that extra processing power. I remember when the i7 980x first came out there were some bench tests that showed it getting on average about 2-3fps better than the Phenom II 965.
meetajhu  +   843d ago
You got they way wrong on how multi core works. Every thread of job is evenly distributed among all the CPUs.
OccludedGamer  +   843d ago
is this really what were expecting? check out the price on it, how is that possible?

http://www-03.ibm.com/syste...
fr0sty  +   843d ago
Dante, you don't have to have more cores to be more powerful. Case in point, current 6 core PC chips are a good bit more powerful than the 8 core cell that launched in 2006 was. The reason being, Cell's cores are not full fledged processor cores, but SPUs (essentially DSP's). So, there is nothing saying that the 16 cores in this rumored chip will be full fledged cores, or that each of those cores will be all that powerful. You can't just take a number of cores and extrapolate overall power from it.
esemce  +   843d ago
Yeah better Ai, physics and 1080/60fps.
BattleAxe  +   843d ago
PS4 is definitely being designed by aliens.
decrypt  +   843d ago
Its called getting console gamers hyped. This has been done before only to under deliver significantly.

PS3 was supposed to play games at 1080p and 120 fps, see how accurate those statements were.

You could have a 32 core CPU, ask any PC gamer it wont make difference in games. What really makes a difference is the GPU.

All of us PC gamers know AMD makes crappy CPUs, yes they might have 8 cores however they get out performed by dual cpus from intel when it comes to games. Now if they are saying 7000series GPU, it can mean anything. It could be a 75XX - 76XX GPU, which tbh is pretty gimped.

Console gamers should really be asking for more transparency, they always tend to get fooled when it comes to hardware and specs.
DeadlyFire  +   843d ago
With rumors we must take this with a grain of salt. As for the 16-cores. Do they mean 16 threads or 16 cores? If 16 threads then its a 4 core - 16 threads its Power7 CPU if 16 cores then its definitely Power8 CPU. As for thread count for 16 core Power8. I expect at least 4 SMT threads per core which equates to 64 threads. Unless this means Power7 8 core times 2 for Xbox 3.
sikbeta  +   843d ago
16 Cores? It's a beast! Welcome home XBX3 :D
zag  +   843d ago
The CPU would be utter hogwash.

The 360 uses a 3 core intel CPU.

The Cell chip made by IBM is a PowerPC chip by design.

Currently intel don't make any 16 thread or even 16 core CPUs, this even goes for the server/business side.

They do make 8 core CPUs that have 16 threads but these CPUs are around $2500USD and not sold to households.

Having 2 threads per CPU isn't the same as 2 cores, and probably slows the core down as i has to deal with 2 items at the same time.

I've seen benchmarks of twin optron 8 core CPUs in 1 system with tri-crossfire setup with the fastest GPU cards at the time.

and the CPUs weren't the bottle neck it became the motherboard itself as it simply couldn't push enough data around, the CPUs never got to 100% and the GPUs never did as well.

Even when overclocked it it didn't make any difference.

When you have a multi-thread program run on win7 perm then that program is able to use all cores without any problems as it's windows that handles the threads not the program.

alas I highly doubt this xbox will have 16 threads or cores.
inveni0  +   843d ago
I don't believe this. Unless, of course, they're using a processor like the CELL. Which would be ironic if it's true that the PS4 will be x64 based. Can anyone say "role reversal"?
DARK WITNESS  +   842d ago
I love it when a new gen is about to start and all these stories start to crop up and all these great conversations about specs and all that.

I an't got a clue about all the tech talk and specs, but it's great reading and it's me all excited!! I just can't wait for the end result, but at the same time I am not looking forward to somethings like the amount of milking and crap.
GamingPerson  +   843d ago
fake..

@ZidaneNL
ok! but more kinect is bad..
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ZidaneNL  +   843d ago
@GamingPerson
CPU's for consoles are custom made and are by far not as expensive as standard, retail CPU's that we can purchase.
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NCAzrael  +   843d ago
@ZidaneNL

There is absolutely nothing different on the manufacturing side of CPUs for consoles that makes them any more cost efficient than CPUs for PCs. If anything, the manufacturing for a console CPU is less efficient (note: I did not say more expensive, there is a difference) thanks to the fact that they don't have a mass market to ship to outside of the console manufacturer. All that "custom made" means is that they don't follow any current manufacturing specs, which means that they have to dedicate an entire fabrication line to a new architecture and get nothing out of it in return.
dark-hollow  +   843d ago
1- make an article about a non existent console.
2-make the "leaked" specs sounds very strong or weak to attract hits.
3-say its from a "trusted source"
4-????
5-PROFIT!!! LITERALLY!!
vulcanproject  +   843d ago
Yup. a POWERPC chip with 16 cores isn't really believable either for this console- plus everyone talking about threads then they are a very distinct thing from hardware 'cores' which was clearly said in the article.

The largest and fastest Power7 is an 8 core. It does have 4 way SMT.

Developers don't want to spread their code over 16 cores and 4 times as many threads. It is fairly unrealistic to imagine a console with even a 16 core version of a POWERPC this year or even next year.

Even a custom part with that many cores does not fit into IBM's roadmap.

More cores has never always = better too. Focusing on the numbers of each core or thread versus the actual capability of such a core and CPU as a whole is a mistake.
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Tr10wn  +   843d ago
^ yup i remember the Pentium 4 era where no ones believe in dual cores, thats impossible they said, lets lol now, Microsoft had the money to do it if they want and if they make a deal with AMD then is possible, still a rumor IMO.
vulcanproject  +   843d ago
When did no one believe in dual cores in the pentium 4 era? Who said it was impossible? I would love to see you show us where you didn't just make that up Tr1own.

There had been embedded duals for a very long time BEFORE Pentium 4, and in fact it was a PowerPC, POWER4 as the first non embedded dual core, over a decade ago now- just as Pentium 4 launched.

Microsoft's money is not relevant in the case of this article, it is about IBM. Because as i pointed out, there are no single die 16 core POWERPC7 designs around to be in a devkit right now (as claimed saying the 16 core CPU, singular) and no 16 core POWERPC designs expected for at least a year....

Clearly then the idea the machine will have a 16 core POWERPC chip is rather suspect IMO. If the architecture was not specified as POWERPC then it is not impossible or unbelievable as there are other chips around. But as it is an architecture that doesn't exist right now but is apparently in devkits already then colour me suspicious.
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adorie  +   843d ago
lol 16 cores!? http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Doubt it's true. Sounds like that is specified for devkit only and not what they will be putting out in the retail sector.
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stragomccloud  +   843d ago
I'm thinking someone mixed up cores with threads. 16 simultaneous threads is very impressive though, none the less.
SantistaUSA  +   842d ago
It is more likely to be 8 core cpu and 16 threads, that's more believable anyways.
NeloAnjelo  +   843d ago
Yes, but will there be games to play? We don't need 16 core for Kinect games. Give us some core games Microsoft.
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hazardman  +   843d ago
Earlier rumours this yr. said the kinect 2 would have its own processors, would the extra core have anything to do with it? I'm not a tech wiz, just trying to gain some knowledge...
oNIXo  +   843d ago
Kinect games are for core gamers. Haven't you seen the Xbox line-up for the next year?
stragomccloud  +   843d ago
I remember when the first Kinect was supposed to have it's own processor...
ruiner4482  +   843d ago
Wasn't everyone complaining about having 7 different threads to code for the ps3??
kaveti6616  +   843d ago
PS3's devkit didn't automatically spread the work among the 6 SPUs.

360's devkit had a compiler that did.
Rinkuchal  +   843d ago
confirmed is the antithesis of rumor. besides, i beginning to think MS and Sony are letting 3rd parties run their mouth because they know something's going to leak eventually. might as well FUD it...
tee_bag242  +   843d ago
Well I hope its true. I'd like to see the next gen console/s have some impressive specs. They need to be to last a 5-8 year cycle. I don't mind paying abit more for quality future proof hardware. What I don't want is a console with mid range consumer PC specs.
Blackdeath_663  +   843d ago
i think you missed a bit
if you read the whole article at the bottom it says,
"Discrete sources at GDC also confirmed to the publication that developers expect Sony’s Playstation 4 to be more powerful than the next Xbox"
we will have to wait and see which console is the powerhouse but you completely disregarded the possibility of ps4 tech being even stronger.
The_Con-Sept  +   843d ago
16 cores? HAHAHAHA!
Radeon 7000 comparable? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! (ffb)Nvidia again?..(/ffb)
Blu-RAY! (There isn't enough space for that many "HAHA"'s.)

This is a total HOAX!

Seriously with an educated guess add that up in your mind how much per unit that will cost.
(ffb)And remember Microsoft needs to make a profit off each unit sold like the 360. And be POWERFULL.(/ffb)

16 cores? They mean the Wire Speed processor? This is new technology. No price set yet. Best estimate?

3,000 a piece. (Remember... HIGH END PROCESSOR...)

But lets say its a 16 core processor with each core at only around 1.1 GHz per CPU... Then 900 a piece. (And only comparable to an Intel i3 dual core @ 3.8 GHz each.)

NVidia is probably the GPU choice this go around since it is "comparable to the Radeon 7000 series." Since this GPU doesn't have a name and is new technology... Best estimate?

600 a Piece to start.

Blu-Ray....... (Where to begin?)
Would Microsoft actually consider paying royalties to a competitor? REALLY? Ok lets just say they really go with this choice.

75 a piece.

So if it is a super duper upper decker makes you feel like your eyes just got salt and peppered....

4 grand per unit.

3 thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine US dollars!

Seriously.... this rumor needs to be killed before someone gets embarrassed....
adorie  +   842d ago
don't forget, the cost of hardware is substantially lower for these gaming companies since they are usually contracted to buy in bulk.
yourfather  +   843d ago
now that's stupid
maybe the medias can say nextbox have AI next time
rumors lol
360GamerFG  +   843d ago
If you're going to troll, at least do it in English.
torchic  +   843d ago
what exactly was he saying? o.O
Rainstorm81  +   843d ago
"It's Thinking"
tee_bag242  +   843d ago
Moving on... Lol
Nyxus  +   843d ago
Sounds a little too good to be true... but I hope it is!
DA_SHREDDER  +   843d ago
Now when it comes to a machine that only does third parties, the saying, might as well just get a pc comes to mind, especially since even their "exclusives" come to pc too. So you xbox fans that already can't wait for next gen, guess what, next gen has been here for years already.
jaymart2k  +   843d ago
And only very few games look leaps beyound the consoles.

When 90% of the games are leaps ahead then will talk.

Heck, most of the developers still haven't maxed out the graphics this gen.
Arnon  +   843d ago
@DA_SHREDDER

You are clearly butthurt.. and..

@jaymart2k

I'm going to assume you don't even own a gaming PC. If you did, you would know that 90% of all games released on the PC DO in fact look better than their console counterparts. Hurray for no proprietary hardware!

"most of the developers haven't maxed out the graphics this gen."

Yes they have. In fact, they did that a few years ago. All they've been doing at this point is tweaking various parts of their engines within the bottleneck.
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SPAM-FRITTER-123  +   842d ago
@90% of games not been miles ahead

if devs built a game for a £3,000 PC, PC games would be pushing out CG graphics. but would you throw all your money into making a game for people who use a £3,000 PC...i wouldnt.

make a game and design it to work on an avarage PC and you sell millions. make a game for a £3,000 rig and sell thousands.

a lot of PC games look console quality because devs can not go around making games that cost millions to only sell to the nvidia 680,i7 990 gamers.

also with PC devs seeing how well console games sell they have to make equal looking games to stay in business.
dark-hollow  +   843d ago
Who knows what exclusives the new Xbox will have?

Remember that the 360 had three good years of exclusives. Hopefully they continue making exclusives after that this time.
Gamer1982  +   843d ago
like 5 websites have different specs now this is getting silly. Some say 8000 series like the orbis is rumoured to have (these are going for 700 though make more believable?). But 16 cores really??? I doubt it for one serious reason. PRICE! MS will want this to be market ready at launch which means they will want it to be cheaper than sonys console from day one like the 360 always was. That was there edge with 360 and will be with there next console. 16 cores will definitely push it over the edge.
DeletedAcc  +   843d ago
I dont know but i think ... Its.. True :)
Arksine  +   843d ago
16 core processor? I'm calling BS on that. Too big and hot for a console, unless its 16 arm cores. 8 cores with SMT is possible, but still probably too big and hot to put in a limited space.

I can see the HD 7000 GPU, but any moron could guess that considering MS is likely to stick with AMD for graphics.
Machioto  +   843d ago
Hey, do you know the performance of the arm cortex a-9 & a-15 ?
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Arksine  +   843d ago
The A9 has a linpack score of around 85MFlops for a dual core at 1.2Ghz. So a 16 Core would be around 680MFlops.

The A15 is expected to be somewhere in the neighborhood of a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 (Krait). The Dual-core Krait MDP at 1.5GHz has a Linpack score of 218 MFlops, putting a 16 core at 1.7GFlops.

For Comparison, the Cell averages a linpack score at around 100 GFlops with all 8 SPEs enabled. The rumored A8-3850 in the PS4 has a linpack score of around 30GFlops.

I really doubt that MS will go with ARM, I just threw it out that as the only possible "true" 16 core processor in a STB-like device. As you can see its performance doesn't even come close to desktop parts. Anything else at 16 cores would too big, too hot, and quite frankly overkill...unless MS is going with some kind of asymmetrical processor like the cell, which would be hilarious.
joeorc  +   843d ago
@Arksine
Hold on a sec

take a look @ this

http://www.xbitlabs.com/new...

As you stated:

"I really doubt that MS will go with ARM, I just threw it out that as the only possible "true" 16 core processor in a STB-like device. As you can see its performance doesn't even come close to desktop parts. Anything else at 16 cores would too big, too hot, and quite frankly overkill...unless MS is going with some kind of asymmetrical processor like the cell, which would be hilarious."

SOC's have changed quite a bit since than..ARM an the Cell processor have quite a bit in common really. Take a look at IBM Talking about this

http://www-03.ibm.com/press...

AS you also stated a 16 core desktop processor would be way too hot, an passive an active heat reduction parts would increase the cost to bleed that heat off that system..even @42nm scale the cpu in the PS3 requires active an passive heat dissipation is required, an 16 cores would require quite a bit more.

I think both Microsoft an Sony will in fact USE in my opinion SOC's chips designed from ARM an manuf. by IBM. because already the WiiU chip is being done by IBM, Sony's PSVita chipset is a SOC once again done by STI which is Sony,Toshiba an IBM.

Remember the Ipad,Iphone an Android smartphones an Tablets all use ARM core powered chipsets in over 97% the Nintendo 3DS also ARM core. Windows OS 8 will now be supporting ARM Core Chipsets for full windows OS8 that go into Tablets an Laptops.

The main 3rd party game engines have been developed for the ARM core chipset, that's quite a number of 3RD party Game engines.

ARM holding's has right now chipsets able to handle right on the SOC without going off chip GPU that can handle

right on the Die

"The Mali T658 supports high level GPGPU languages such as OpenCL, Google's Renderscript and Microsoft's Directcompute, but most importantly it also supports OpenGL and DirectX 11."

the SGX PowerVR 6 GPU can also be used instead of the Mali already which can also be right on the SOC die.

http://www.imgtec.com/corpo...

I think ARM core chipsets will more than likely be inside both the Microsoft an Sony's next Game systems. the systems would be far cheaper an much better to bleed the heat generated than what's in the curent xbox360 an PS3 all the while keeping the performance high.
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jdfoster  +   843d ago
Too good to be true... Imagine the heat on that thing! Hope the fan won't be as bad as the original xbox 360! That soo loud!

Let's just wait and see though! Can't wait for E3 (although I think no new console will be revealed by Sony And Microsoft
Fat Onion  +   843d ago
Would be nice if there were a miniature version of those blade-less fans inside.
MySwordIsHeavenly  +   843d ago
That WOULD be awesome, actually! It's just that they are so expensive. :/ If Dyson did a deal with a console manufacturer, that could work out. I doubt they would though.
Dlacy13g  +   843d ago
yeah, not sure on this one. It sounds great for sure BUT every other rumor out there says 4-6 cores and then you factor in the rumors on the PS4 of late and that configuration wouldn't be more powerful than the 16 core beast they described... So.. I say its probably bogus.
Mikeyy  +   843d ago
Id be surprised if it had an 8 core. I highly doubt a 16 core. Companies wonteven pay an extra $40 to double the ram, what makes you think they will buy such powerful CPUs??
fossilfern  +   843d ago
Could be a Power 7 processor from IBM which is a quad core CPU that can handle 4 threads each so its not impossible.
tehdewm  +   843d ago
which would be a quadcore still.
fossilfern  +   843d ago
Yes but can handle 4 threads per core instead of having 16 Physical cores that can only handle one thread each. Though the latter would be more effective but not as cost effective.
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slavish  +   843d ago
you obviously don't understand the meaning of threads
ChronoJoe  +   843d ago
lol slavish is right, in no way does that make it a 16 core processor.
fossilfern  +   842d ago
@ ChronoJoe Yea it doesnt make it physically 16 cores but instead the Quad Core that MIGHT be inside the next Xbox will be able to handle 4 SMT threads per core. So it could handle 16 SMT threads even though its only Physically a Quad Core.

Just like the current 360 now it has 3 Physical Cores but each core can handle 2 SMT threads meaning that it can handle 6 threads despite being a Tri-Core
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Saleem101  +   843d ago
Ill stick to my newly order beast sporting i7 3930 with GTX680 graphics card...
Mythicninja  +   843d ago
That's a nice machine, and you're already far more powerful than the next console generation. The price of the graphics card alone however is more than the next console will cost. Not hatin' I'm a PC gamer too ^^
Saleem101  +   843d ago
Yea GTX 680 is monster paired with i7 3930 overkill lol!
Mikhail  +   843d ago
Beast CPU, I am planning to buy an i7-3820 and 2 680. I wonder if I can play 2d surround on it at Ultra.
adorie  +   843d ago
nice hardware. waiting on Ivy bridge to redo my rig. ^^
tehdewm  +   843d ago
No way. "cores" are a very useless term for consoles. The ps3 had "6 of 8 cores" in the console, which were really just 1 main core, and 7 threads. Unless this follows the same rule, I highly doubt this.
EffectO  +   843d ago
The same website claimed that next xbox will be packed with HD Kinect and tablet controller.

16 core CPU
Dual GPU
HD Kinect
Tablet controller

Year,right.

Bullshit rumor
mrshooter2k12  +   843d ago
You do realize that the website is simply reporting what an Xbox-centric magazine stated.

If these magazines are reporting whatever specs for the console, they are newsworthy - considering that they are respected, and well-known.

If it's true or not, the age-old saying still comes into play. There's no smoke without fire.
BLow  +   843d ago
Well, if this is true then I can't wait!! The difference between this and the rumored PS4 specs are huge. Do you really think Sony(a hardware company) is going to let this happen? I don't care what kind of financial trouble they're in. This would be suicide. It's like we're getting these so called specs of each system one by one and each time they one up the other. It's like some people are tryin to start this console war FOR NEXT GEN already.

I remember back when the 360 and PS3 were announced and things got really ugly. I have a feeling that this is going to get worse and we might not hear anything official until E3 2013. The big problem is that people take these rumors and believe they are facts. Man, I miss the old days when nobody knew what was goin on until an issue of your favorite magazine hit the shelf. Or when E3 rolled around and it was a REAL surprise. Oh well, some of you can keep believing all these rumors as facts and I will wait to here something official from either Sony or MS....I'm out
Machioto  +   843d ago
If you read the story they touch upon that.

@grave this means one of the two article are false.
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xtreampro  +   843d ago
If new software is to be shown at E32012 then this ties in with the reveal of UE4 which is supposed to happen later this year. Hopefully Sony shows something as well, even showing a tech demo for a next-gen game would be enough.
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GraveLord  +   843d ago
lol 16-core processor. they obviously got this from that rumor that was posted on paste-bin back in December.

Too bad we have updated rumors and maybe MS was using a 16-core processor back then, but they aren't now.

BTW, if this is true then expect $600 console.

The article has SO many contradictions. They say the PS4 will be more powerful than Xbox 720 but they claim the 720 will use a 16-core? IGN leaked the PS4 specs and they mentioned only a quad core.

IGN > Sillegamer
Sillergamer is nothing but a glorified blog powered by Wordpress. IGN is actually reputable and have a good track record.

@mrshooter2k12
Sure. This random site somehow got the June issue! Just skipped right past May! Very believable! I'm sorry I ever doubted SillerGamer. How can I repent?
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mrshooter2k12  +   843d ago
Xbox World Magazine - June 2012 issue stated this. The website just picked up on it.

If you had took the time to actually read it, you would have noticed. Reporting rumors and creating rumors are two separate things.
ChronoJoe  +   843d ago
# of cores doesn't have much to do with total performance. You don't know what each cores clocking at. A quad core could easily be more expensive, and more powerful than a 16 core.
wardestroyr  +   843d ago
@GraveLord

For someone who spouts their own speculations as fact, here is the link to the newest issue of Xbox World, which is dated for June 2012, has Max Payne 3 on the cover, and does in fact contain all of the information listed in the article.

http://www.myfavouritemagaz...

Hopefully this will enlighten you, as you still seem to believe that the website made it up. Research your arguments before you treat them as fact.
Grap  +   843d ago
lol 16 core yah right like this gonna happen in a year.. 8 core and we can't even max that out in 5 year
aviator189  +   843d ago
Soo many rumors in such little time. I'll just wait for official specs, but this does sound awesome.
PtRoLLFacE  +   843d ago
ZzZzzZZZzz!!...
Tai_Kaliso  +   843d ago
Maybe Microsoft is wanting to really go full on future proof next generation. I think its smart for the console makers to make these next consoles with a 6-10 year life cycle in mind.

I think we'll see a couple different SKU's from Microsoft, they really like the $399 price point, but I could see a premium console in the $499 or $550 price range.

I think Microsoft has done a lot to establish themselves this generation and taking a loss for a couple of years to gain market-share is something they can definitely afford to do, after all they are Microsoft for crying out loud. They print their own money.
Orpheus  +   843d ago
A powerful CPU without that much powerful GPU is a waste.

With all those cores devs are going to do what nVIDIA users kind of get with PhysX/Optix .....

Only edge over PS3 and initially on the PC may be through AI or Kinet related things ......

And I wont be surprised if it got 2 cores and 14 something else ..... like the 1 core 7 SPEs of the PS3 ....
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Fat Onion  +   843d ago
The next rumor will be a beast of a GPU inside tne NextBox
GamingPerson  +   843d ago
I hope it's true!
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GamingPerson  +   843d ago
next rumor: Xbox 720 plays 4k porn on three 7970s..
Lulz_Boat  +   843d ago
"A powerful CPU without that much powerful GPU is a waste. "

yep, tell that to the PS3.

uberpower CPU +avarage GPU = Killzone, Uncharted, GT5, The Last Of Us, God Of War, Heavy Rain etc etc etc.
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raytraceme  +   843d ago
Also induces a lot of input lag if you haven't noticed. I really think that for consoles a 4 core CPU is more than enough and that the gpu should handle most aspects of graphics including physics now that gpgpu is becoming big.
DigitalAnalog  +   843d ago
@raytraceme
That applies to games like U3 and KZ2. But GOWIII was actually smoother due to the high frame-rate. KZ3 had better input lag than it's predecessor, heck many games this gen have input lag most notably GTAIV/RDR.
Mikhail  +   843d ago
its either a quad core (4 threads each) or a 8-core (2 threads) using something like Hyper threading technology . 16 physical cores is a no-no as it will be so hot.

I find it funny that Xbox Mag is saying that PS4 is more powerful. So contradicting to all rumors.
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BrianG  +   843d ago
More cores does not always mean a hotter chip. Most chip manufacturers turn down the clock speed on the cores to bring the heat down.

Think of an 8 core AMD chip vs a quad core intel chip. The AMD chip is not 2 times hotter, because the clock speeds are turned down to compensate.
Orpheus  +   843d ago
Yeah AMD chips got lower transistor counts and less performance too ...
--Onilink--  +   843d ago
16 core processor.... yeah right... and the version without HDD will cost $1000 -_-"

Whoever makes up these "rumors" could at least try to keep thing grounded in reality... like what he says about a 7000 series, thats perfectly normal, especially considering how vague that information is because there can be huge diference between cards of the 7000 series
synce  +   843d ago
Total BS. Almost none of today's games make use of even FOUR cores. Look at the PS3's Cell and how far it got Sony. You can't port a game from 360 or PC to it without redoing it. Would MS do this with their console? Get real.

And comparable to 7000-series GPU? Are you kidding me? The first number isn't the one that determines the power, it's the second. A 7650 is much weaker than a 6850.
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Ulf  +   843d ago
Guys... get real. Will the people of Wal-mart lay down $700 for this beast?

No. This isn't accurate.
Omega Zues  +   843d ago
Every other day theres a new rumor.

Just give it a rest people.
Dms2012  +   843d ago
If true this doesn't sound very balanced between cpu and gpu, mind you I am not an engineer but still....
atticus14  +   843d ago
all cores dont have to be used for gameplay, thats why there are so many. There will likely be specific tasks for everyone of them for a smoother overall experience. One or two cores could be solely dedicated to the OS, a few for Kinect, one for physics,A.I., etc etc... Now that they have so many they wont have to comprise/sacrifice one feature for the other.
360GamerFG  +   843d ago
Not going to lie, all these specs go way over my head.
GameGuy  +   843d ago
Same here. All I know is I better not get the red ring of death when next gen arrives lol
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