The New York Times' Matt Richtel reported on November 16, 2007, that NPD analyst Anita Frazier's take on this year sales and Guitar Hero, and Frazier's expectation for the PS3.
I nominate nathan drake
PS1 big hero= Cloud
2nd hero= Snake
PS2 big hero=GTA 3 main character
"Since FFX first game to sell 2 mil 4 mil 5mil and then sold 7 mil"
2nd hero =FFXIII main character
Edit: starting from PS3 heroes i see history repeating itself with N64 killing PS1 for 1 year and a half.....and then bam history repeates itself with Cloud and Snake
GOOD to see sonyfans turning a negetive post about the ps3 into a positive 1 lol.
Got it early (gamecrazy got an early shipment luckily) and it's made me saw "Freakin awesome" about 10 times.
Check out the news the Sony droids so vigorously blocked.
This news really got under KingofPS3 skin. He sent me an ubscene PM because he has no balls to post it.
Check it out.
But in all honesty, the post doesn't really add anything new. Yes, Naughty Dog is owned by Sony, so that almost automatically knocks out the possibility of this game coming to the X360. Then the article goes to say that load-free times are possible with a hard drive, which not all X360's have. Also, they claim that it would be a a different game if it were ported. So what's the point of your post?
Edit - @ Mighty Boom
I have to agree in some part. I understand that this site, especially, is driven by fans of their corresponding system, but it's not necessarily just Sony fans. In all fairness, I think all system fans are guilty of the things you mention. However, you are in a lucky position to own all three consoles and that makes you a fan of gaming, which I commend.
that people would read. Unfortunately the loyal Sony droids waged an attack to get this news of the pending story list as quickly as possible. Most droids whom reported on this story did so 2 or 3 times each. Its sad. I know loyal PS3 owners are desperately waiting for a killer app so I guess I can understand where their need to sensor this type of news comes from. It makes me glad that I can enjoy all 3 consols and enjoy games like Drake and 360 exclusive with out blind allegiance getting in the way of my fun.
Wii has Mario
Xbox 360 has Master Chief and Marcus Phenix
PS3 has ? Snake ? Nathan Drake ?
Shut up you metal gear fanboy....
Sony has Snake and Cloud (FFVII)..... or any other FF main chracters
Said mr. Cloud360
me nominates the old pioneer snake, damn u old f*ggot make me proud.
Well in tersm of exclusive good games ps3 has
Rachet, Jak (you know theres gonna be one), Snake, chances are an FF character and a new ip character.
ps3 has kratos, snake and nariko (shes 1 badass chick)
The race of ppl called Eucadian
they make some cool lookin warhawks
People talk like the PS3 has no games. Liek this person is. Or maybe she is not well informed.
Anyhow do you not see a partern. Cloud and Snake are coming back to ace this gen.
Yep history is repeating itself
What are you talking about dude.
That was just saying that Warhawk is awesome.
I nominate Ratchet.
He would PWN Mario.
They have dozens of them already.
bubble to you my friend.
That the beauty about Sony.They dont focus on one game to be there savior they have different ones.You want a mascot, then you choose jak and daxter, Rachet and clank, god of war, killzone,heavenly sword and Drake uncharted.
"November 16, 2007, 3:00 pm
Sony Needs a Hero for PlayStation3
By Matt Richtel
Tags: PlayStation 3, video game, video game consoles, Wii, Xbox 360"
To the one reporting, how is an article of 16 nov. 2007 old?
Why? I really don't know.
I would have said Snake but some MGS games are on other systems. So I nominate Ratchet and Clank with Nathan Drake a close second.
umm we are talking about this gen not last gen
Well done. What makes you think I wasn't?
PS3 Needs a hero?
Has everyone absolutely forgot what the ps3 has?
I am absolutely perplexed that EVERYONE not just xbots are neglecting to admit that the ps3 sold 5.6 million units in 1 year.... This is without "games" as some would put it. Even if the ps3 stayed at this snail like pace, it would be sitting exactly where the 360 is in the year to come. We all know games are rolling in already at the end of this year. Each one is a great AAA title as well. Ratchet/Uncharted, not so sure about haze.
I imagine sony didn't expect to sell 12 million units in one year without any of its major franchise games, or at least an "SSX" for the ps2.. type game for the ps3. No way in hell did they think niche games like Lair or HS would do that much for sales.
It irritates me to NO end that going at the same pace as the 360 (IN THE FIRST G.D YEAR) equates to disaster on epic levels.. that the ps3 needs saving yadda yadda.
No one cared about the 360 until Gears came out. Im sorry, but its 100% true.
The ps3 has amazing games.. but are trounced in this current atmosphere where the 360 is dominate. Xbots/PS3loyalists all have to agree that reviews for the PS3 for recent releases have had to stretch to find something wrong with the game. While gameplay glitches/controls/problems are overlooked on the 360.. because reviewers claim other things make up for it.. its as if the PS3 can never catch a break. I'm JUST talking about Ratchet & Clank, and Uncharted here:
"too much variety."
"Story is cliche."
"Jumping is too easy."
Or it gets an amazing review only to get an 8/10. No Cons what so ever.. Now say what you want.. but its just ODD that this happens to almost every ps3 super title. If a review has the same criteria in it that say made Gears an AAA Or Bioshock, then the same criteria SHOULD apply to the ps3. It doesn't. Innovative Gameplay/Interesting Story for ps3 titles means 8. No one wants to give the PS3 an AAA title for some strange reason.
The PS3 has broken every BS rumor down. The hardware cant make games... Right.. The hardware cant make amazing games that CANT be done on the 360.. SEE Uncharted. Multiplats cant be made Equally... See COD4. PS3 Has NO games.. It has about 1600 dollars worth of good titles now, I'd say thats plenty for a person who understands the PS3 is NEW.
This time next year, hopefully things will be back to healthy competition.
the only console that's in need of a hero will be the 360 next year what GeOW 2..Halo wars...??..yea then the hype dies down in the next two months after each game is released..!
the Wii has SMB coming next year
The PS3 has..too many "HEROES"..comin next year...!!
and the PS3 launched with a new Hero : Nathan Hale..!
We need to do something about it. Somehow, some way...there has to be a way to end this terrible situation.
Uncharted with anything less than a 10 is just plain ridiculous to me.
IGN giving the PS3 version of AC a lower score??? It's the best version, according to Ubisoft themselves!
Gamespot...let's just not.
How did Warhawk get bad reviews? Its user-base grows more steadily than Halo's. That's all my little brother and his friends do!
I wonder how someone like you managed to drop down to 3 bubbles. I smell XBots bubble system abusers. Oddly, the most fanboyish XBots here have 5 bubbles (POG, Mart, Firstknight...etc.)
Oh no I am a 100% Sony Flag waving fanboy.. at times.. but sometimes this stuff just gets way too stupid. Its the mainstream media as well, not just xbots bashing the ps3.
Honestly if u were a girl i would kiss you right now, it couldnt have been said any better ... lets just wait and see ...
This article is irrelevant, as it doesn't take into account the two weeks of PS3 outselling 360 in europe and japan, and furthermore seems blissfully unaware of the price cut!
I agree with you. Most of those writers are columnists. They are obligated to write something. The problem, many of them are usually not fully aware of the topics they write about, giving they don't consider the fact that this industry grows quickly and things change sometimes overnight like when a game is released. About the hero thing, I don't think a console that needs a hero is a good console. A good console is that is well built with excellent specs and gives the user an advantage that is precieved as useful. So mario is Wii hero, Xboxs halo is their hero. But, Ps3 is it self is a hero that has many great games already released and more coming up.. Don't forget God of War ( the best game ever in my opinion, along with Halo 3).
I think PS3 is doing a little better.
I get the feeling XBOX 360 fans need any bad news they can find on the PS3 because it sold 2000 more than last month. But most importantly because XBOX 360 solid like 200,000 less than September.
Ever since the NPD, I've seen some attacks on the PS3 more petty than usual. Like people rubbing in how bad the NPD was for PS3. Is that news? We saw the numbers with our own eyes already.
XBOX 360 is still very strong, and it's gonna sell more than PS3 but Sales were especially high in September for obvious reasons.
I work at Gamestop.
I'm expecting a really big Wii line. (We're stock-piling obviously.)
I'm also expecting a pretty big PS3 line. (they'll sell out within minutes.)
The 360 line probably will just be for a bunch of games.
Kids don't want the old systems. They want the new PS3 or Wii.
BTW...don't buy your kids a Wii...to any parents out there.
They'll get bored within minutes. Seriously, it's a terrible decision. Mine is still sitting there.
If you're working at a gameshop, I can't understand your comment about the 360 having a line for getting games, when several analysts have indicated the 360 will outsell the PS3 at least 2:1 this Christmas.
With that logic, the line for buying a 360 will be twice as long as least as that one for the PS3.
Thing I agree on: don't get a Wii. UNLESS you like Super Mario and Zelda (and a lot of garbage minigames). I must say, for those really young kids it is an option though.
360 sold less... Uh right. You mean 550k in September/Oktober in USA compared to 100k to 130k a month in that same period?
I'd say Kratos would be a good candidate.
If they could get all four of these guys in a commercial together, that would be awesome. Maybe add in some Motorstorm cars to battle eachother in. Actually, that's not a bad idea.
Add in Sweet Tooth also.
I think this is going somewhere. Sony needs to make a new Twisted Metal with their own characters. Have Jaffe come back to write it and direct it. It would sell like CRAZY! Then, have a fighter...but hier the guys who worked on Power Stone 2 to do it. That game is awesome!
I think they could make a solid game here. Just have Crash Bandicoot as the final boss and it'll do just fine.
So spare us ok? The ONLY thing I belive about you is that we each think the Wii is lame. EVERY employee at ANY game store will tell you the PS3 is a door stop.
I'm expecting a really big Wii line. (We're stock-piling obviously.)
I'm also expecting a pretty big PS3 line. (they'll sell out within minutes.)
The 360 line probably will just be for a bunch of games
No they don't need a hero. They need a great marketing campaign to educate people on MOST of their great games not just 2 or 3 titles. If they can do this effectively then their future will be bright.
they need a hero alright.. after the holidays and after the march 2008 numbers are counted. i expected the wii to be so far ahead of xbox360 and sony that they'll start being content to be in second place.
This is so true...
i mean...not true at all.
The Wii will die out soon enough.
It's only a matter of time.
It has NO GAMES!
The Wii has quite a few games that I've enjoyed:
LoZ:TP, MP3, BWii, And Wii Sports I suppose. That's more than enough for me, as I don't consider myself someone who lives to play games all day and doesn't have an attention span long enough to play one twice. However, I still have not gotten SMG, and SSBB will come out next year, accompanied hopefully by Disaster:Day of Crisis. Later on, there will be this new ruins RPG "Fragile" that looks interesting.
ONE WORD : KRATOS
I Nominate a Flaccid Nob,Nobby the Flaccid C*CK or just MART.
.....Only on Playstation 3.
Sony needs to cut ties with the ps2. Simple as that. Stop production on it. It's noble you're trying to keep it alive but it's eating you Alvie at the same time. Sony's trying to compete with 3 systems here and failing miserably. Ps2, wii and xbox 360... get a clue Sony.
Your GAMESBLOW, remember? You know what Sony is doing with the PS2, outselling 360 last week by 33k in Europe (83k). It sold 2k less than wii. With the 73k the PS3 sold in EU last week, that's over 150k dualshocks/sixaxis's over that wiimote. PS3 is up in Europe and Japan. They may need a hero in america, but who needs a savior in Japan and a saint in EU? I think this is the last little blog/articles left about Sony's needs. You think they are going to keep quiet after Novemeber's WORLDWIDE numbers? Sony is smarter than we all think.
And I agree This moth is going to be good for Sony... but it's still not going to eclipse their competition. I see R&CFTOD sales have reached over 200,000 world wide on simexchange, so that bodes well for the rest of the month and into Christmas... but What Sony needs is their install base to actually buy games. I don't get what the hell people are buying for their ps3s? Blu-rays I suppsoe, since those numbers are incrediblky strong. It's almost as if everyone bought a ps3 for the blu-ray player and only 300 to 500,000 bought it to game with since hardly any games ever sell past 500,000 on the ps3. Resistance, Motorstorm are the only 2 that has sold 2 million units world wide.
R&CFTOD is expected to hit 1.10 million but that's by October of next year. So, really... sony needs to have a better strat invloved. I'm sure Insomniac doesn't mind waiting for it to hit a million units as Sony foots the bill for all the advertising and production cost, but it's still a little off putting to know Ps3 buyers aren't buying games for their systm near fast enough.
Also, if you want acurate numbers.. don't go to vgcharts... go to a stock exchange website for them. You'll get a bigger/better picture.
Games like Oblivion, Madden, and Nija Gaiden Sigma are close or well over 600k. EA said the PS3 version of FIFA accounts for 75% of sales in Europe! Ratchet & Clank, was only one day of sales in Japan reported for the entire week. It was released Nov. 11, and Heavenly Sword was released Nov.15.
360 had 100% of next gen market with no xbox 1. What did xbox owners have to buy other than the Fears and Saint's Row's? Oblivion (2 million) and Gears (over 4 million) were the phenomenal sellers of the bunch for 360 first year.
Sony is working with all new ip for PS3 year 1. Ratchet was the only familiar face. Drake, Ratchet, Warhawk, and Heavenly Sword will go multiplatinum soon..Drake being first to sell 2 million quick. I have no clue how many Warhawk's have been sold (has to be close to 1 million). I say PS3 did damn good on the games front than many would have you believe. Christmas will push these games very well. Time will tell all...but 2008......DMC4, MGS4, Disgaea 3 (japan), Tekken 6, GTAIV, see when those familiar faces pop up early 08 around the..well I don't want to gloat...mad PS3 games of 2008! We know the list!
Blu Ray is about to explode...it sure will help, not hurt at all...
I do believe Sony does need to cut ties to the PS2. Keeping the PS2 around is also letting develophers target Wii. If they dropped the PS2 would anyone even take a chance on making a game for the Wii knowing it just doesn't sell.
I've noticed that you've constantly stated the 360 sold atleast 500K in September and October. It did not sell 500K in October, it sold around 350K.
Sony need those certain games that not only bring the people in but blow them away.
What Sony doesn't need is those games that are just as good if not better on another system!
Sony needs to get those games finished but make sure those game are TOP NOTCH! An example would be Haze. If this game is not everything it can be by the December launch date, delay it. If Sony keeps rushing these "what-could-be" great games out the door, the PS3 will fail!
If the game has the hype behind it, then it needs to match it. That is a big task but it can be done. There are always going to be those who can rip everything apart and complain but that is life. But their games to do have to hit a certain level.
The 360 has those games. The games that go above and beyond. Sony has had the chance to have those games to but they have fallen short of the target.
I am not a fan boy of either system, I love them both and I support them both. I love my 360 and the PS3. Both systems have serious potential. The 360 has the online system going and the games are great.
Sony has an incredible Idea on the Home community and could really make something impressive. At the moment their online system fails to impress. They are making head way though.
As for the games, most have not been top notch yet. Great in idea but I FEEL they were rushed. Lair could have been incredible in my book, but their wasn't enough time to get some of the frame rate problems and control issues fixed. I know some are going to argue with me on that and that is fine. Just the way i see it.
Sony has some killer IP's and these games are coming. Killzone 2 can be a major seller, Drakes Fortune has already impressed me big time...I am going to get it when I see that it is out. MGS looks awesome!
Yes the games and the online are coming.
I loved the old way of system leadership. Nintendo had Mario, Sega had Sonic. I would love to see those leaders come back.
If Sony can make a deal with Konami or something, Snake would make a killer system hero! Imagine that. Or possible Killzone would make a killer leader.
Microsoft has the Spartan. Hey Halo is good but not great in my book! They need to have a true leader. I am sure the Halo Spartan is a good choice, just not my cup of tea!
What do you all think?
good points nice to see someone with sense instead of others being in denial all the time
too long to read but i did agree for the effort u put into that :)
Kratos is well ... not really hero material
and snake is well... going to die so... not hero material either.
They really should have worked on that solo campaign for warhawk...
If they do smthg similar to last exile (anime) i m sure they could come up with a nice character in warhawk 2.
PS3 indeed does NOT need a hero. One thing I like about Sony is the fact that they don't rely on one game to sell the console, though it does kinda seem like it with KZ2.PlayStation has Nathan Drake, Nathan Hale, Kratos, Ratchet & Clank, Jak and Daxter, used to have Crash Bandicoot, FF characters, and I honestly would think the Chernovan vehicles in Warhawk would be great!! I know someone up above said the Eucadian warhawk, but I honestly like the Chernovan one most, it looks like one of the nazi german fighter bombers that was closest to the 1000 1000 1000 requirements, but i forget its name....
Also chernovans have a badass looking tank!
Cloud was one of PS1's most important heroes, it would be great if FFXIII has a hero/heroine of similar importance. But as of now, Solid Snake FTW! Sony better hype him to hell because he deserves it and MGS4 is the final chapter.
the rhino from afrika.
or how about the dragon from lair.
how about haze? the drug addicts..
Sony has had a lot of hero's.
But the PS3 has none.
I'm pretty sure they are needing a new ip HERO.
is their any visible icon that could potentially be a hero?
nintendo needs a different hero >.> other than mario and friends
ah the flames are getn warm lol
Every console has hero's every game has a hero in it. PS3 fans don't buy games and the PS3 is selling in Europe because the combo nature of the PS3(Its a DVD player/console, over there; they not consider console dvd players as slightly taboo if not a hardcore gamer vs standalones for obvious reasons)I read a study about Europeans digging the DVD player that comes in the PS3).
Nope i bought mine for games, as did all my friends who own next-gen, aside from 1 who owns a xbox.
.....Blu-ray just is something extra for me, watch dvd`s still and enjoy them just as much on my standalone, don`t think i`ve watched anything on my PS3, except by streaming it from my PC.
The article meant, P$3 software just isn't selling great at all (using GuitarHERO to make it's point, kiddies). Sales figures for PS2 were higher for GHIII than on P$3! That's just gotta make game devs cringe! Why spend more time deving for it? Business is business.
And here's a hint: Sony cut the price to the system, what 2x already? So this 3rd time is gonna make the system fly off the shelves & make you fanboys want to buy more games than BR movies? <cough> Rachet & Clank <cough-cough> 76K only <ahh-chooo>
But oh well, do your usual: click 'disagree', get mad & name call, talk badly about the 360 (as if it's not outselling P$3), take away bubbles, show your glorified list of games coming for P$3 in 2008 (like you did last year-Lair, Hevenly Sword, etc) and say; "Just wait until..."
You are angry because you bought a 360 and not sure if you made the right decision.. But its Ok though, most games are going to be multi platform you know.. that will give you some time to save money from your allowance that your mother gives you and buy a PS3...
of course guitar sold more on the ps2,there are over 120 million of them,try and think before you post
I got one quick question...kinda has to do with this article a bit well....peoples responses...
For Killzone which is suppose to be the be all end all of video games in the fanboys eyes....
Um not being ignorant or at least not trying to be....but did Killzone 1 even sell more then 1 million copies cuz I check some charts and could not find data saying it did......so to bank on Killzone 2 is um iffy but ya know I hope it is good but when ui had a console with over 100 mill people owned you would think this 'Killer Franchise That is Gonna Kick Everythings buttt....' would have sold at least 1 mill ya know at least close to 1 percent of the amount of ps2s out there.......I duno just my opinion....I duno tho I may be wrong and if I am I'd like to know
...the PlayStation 3 has/will have enough heroes. With "has" I mean, that it already has Final Fantasy, MGS, God of War, etc.
Once the PS3 sales really pick up and match those of the Wii I am sure more developers will jump on the bandwagon and create new, innovative PS3 games. I really don't worry about PS3's future, the future is infact very bright.
when you add up the numbers for the PlayStation 2 version with guitar and the version without guitar you see that the game sold 502,800 units on Sony's system in total, making the PlayStation 2 the most popular system for Guitar Hero 3.
ps3 is the best thing out.most powerful game system.uncharted told me and the added bonus of watch blu ray.aint that great.im lovin it
killzone 1 sold 4 mil