CVG:Crytek has told CVG that its CryEngine 3 could have fuelled the development of "pretty much any other game" - but claimed that its rivals, including Epic Games' Unreal Engine, would struggle to power Crysis 2.
i agree,the unreal engine is just too old by tech standards.
I agree as well. Comparison here: http://www.psu.com/CryEngin...
i expect many devs to sway from that old unreal engine once the cry engine becomes standard for multi plat use.
@NYC definitely. The CryEngine makes multiplatform development so much easier.
"i agree,the unreal engine is just too old by tech standards" You no absolutely nothing about tech, lol. Crytek needs to release more variety of games with their engine. Both engines look good, but to be on Epic's level your engine better be super flexible and easy to work with also.
not really a fair comparison that elite and the unreal engine can still produce stunning games. see bulletstorm and gears 3 for proof, cry engine has not even been used in a console game before crysis 2 so when that releases or when i check out the demo tomorow then we wil see whats what
Gears 2 still looks amazing but course Cryengine 3 be better graphics. Compare the UE4 and CryEngine 3 be little more fair. But it seems like the consoles are struggling a little to run the Cryengine3, at least showed it that demo.
There's no UE4 yet, and Gears 3 uses an updated UE3 engine (UE3.5). I couldn't find any other comparison, and even if there's one at this time it would be a Tech Demo as well since CryEngine 3 (Crysis 2) isn't out yet to compare. :) And i also agree that UE3 made a lot of good games from it, like Bioshock, Gears, Mass Effect 2 etc. However it doesn't mean CE3 can't do better.
http://www.youtube.com/watc... I'm sorry but Gears 3 has the most significant jump in graphics I've seen this gen.
How a game looks is less important than how a game plays! Let's take a look at that demo of Crysis 2 tomorrow shall we and then decide....
Crytek loves to talk but where are the games to compare??? Sure, there are tech videos available running on some massive rig somewhere but where are the games. No 2 PC's are the same so everyone has basically had a different experience with Crytek games...most have had headaches trying to get the things to run right...lol Luckily, that's not the case for Unreal and the library of games using the tech is unprecedented...lets take a peak shall we... First up some modified Unreal 2.5 games... Bioshock 1... http://www.youtube.com/watc... SC Conviction... http://www.youtube.com/watc... Impressive stuff for the older engine best known for SC Chaos theory...lol Of Course, Unreal 3 is known for it's ease of use and versatility...just drool over some of these games... Mirrors edge changed FPS's forever with there incredible use of FPS's mechanics on display here using a modified Unreal 3 engine by Dice...It's now the norm with Brink and KZ 3 trying to use similar motions...Pay attention to the color palette, animations and awesome vista's... http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... What about this blow them away footage from the single player in MOH...this looks incredible...feel free to notice the lighting and draw distance...WoW http://www.youtube.com/watc... Batman Arkham Asylum almost won GOTY and did in fact win many awards...you can SEE why...game play and graphics FTW...look at the scale and detail in this... http://www.youtube.com/watc... Bioshock Infinite is in development by the original makers Irrational games and they are excited by the new updates to Unreal 3...we can SEE their excitement in this reveal... http://www.youtube.com/watc... Maybe Crytek is worried about the other Unreal game about to drop on Feb 22...Bulletstorm...it does look pretty...remember kids...game play and graphics... http://www.youtube.com/watc... Tech demos are a dime a dozen...Unreal's latest... http://www.youtube.com/watc... Now, Unreal is all about the consoles...Crytek is still unproven and Gears 3 will be the yardstick in 2011...judge for yourself...Tech demo's are nice BUT we want to see in game proof...take a look...WoW http://www.youtube.com/watc... It better be good in the multi-player arena...dedicated servers shows Epic is gonna big in 2011... http://www.youtube.com/watc... Gears will put on display the latest Unreal tech. The game will have a single player campaign, 4 player story based co-op, Horde mode with new beast mode and dedicated server multi-player. New enemies, new weapons, new melee...new everything...that's gonna be tough to beat. BTW...there are many more games that use the Unreal engine.
that's comparing it to the old Unreal Engine 3. They should compare it to the new UE3.5 which has much better texturing and lighting.
I think if you compare the engines head to head, Cryengine has dynamic EVERYTHING while UE is all pre-scripted unless combined with PhysX or Havok. It's not about textures or lighting anymore. http://www.youtube.com/watc... Take a look at that video at 1:45 Now where on consoles or any other engine have you see that level of detailed destruction? And that's with Crysis one. So Cez, stop defending outdated tech.
Idk they both look really good i think we can all agree that they both look better than Black Ops! BO looks like crap that’s for sure. Will it look better than Killzone 3 i think not it might come close on the PC but fact that it is multiplatform keeps it from being the best visually, its definitely the best looking multiplat game. Everybody that says that the Xbox has games that looks as good as UC3 and Killzone 3 show me! Show me a game that looks as good as this:
i look at what ive seen on the ps3 and i look at crysis 2 on console and i don't think its special to be honest with you but at the same time i never thought the Unreal engine was special either
Of course Crysis 2 looks like nothing special on PS3. Sony and their 1st party devs have the PS3's hardware mastered. If anyone could beat Sony on their own console it would be Crytek or id but I don't see it yet. Crysis 2 will look a thousand times better than anything on the PS3 but that will be the PC version.
Lunatic give it a break. "Crysis 2 will look a thousand times better than anything on the PS3 but that will be the PC version". Get of the drugs bro.
@nycredude thats why i said on console. i don't take drugs...you should assume stuff if you don't understand lmao my bad i thought you was calling me a lunatic lool then saying all that to me lol my bad
Wow, thems fightin words. And I agree the unreal engine is a out dated and over used engine. However some devs can put great looking games on all platforms. Batman AA comes to mind.
Killzone 3 and Uncharted 3 engines owns both
played uncharted 2 again yesterday that game still looks amazing even uncharted 1 looks amazing
In what way?
both killzone and uncharted are linear as hell
^^ so when was something like Gears running on Unreal open world? Hell Gears doesn't even allow you to jump a step if it's not in the 'Script' and you always hit an invisible wall which is far more linear than Killzone or Uncharted, at least those games hide their linearity better by scale. The reason why the games are linear is to provide a more cinematic experience. If there was a dire need of an open world engine I am pretty sure Naughty Dog or Guerilla Games will be up for the task and produce something that could easily challenge these 2 engines.
@ Units You really think Crysis 2 wil be some open world game? Dream on.
Im sure they tried to use the unreal engine for their games to validate this statement, ohh wait they would never try or even consider this as they make their own engines. Crytek sure loves to make stupid PR statements about other peoples products, theirs must be lacking possibly? All I know is that a CRAP LOAD of Awesome games have been made using the unreal engine, while NO awesome games have been made using theirs. Maybe theirs will be the first, but Im starting to doubt it as they seem to talk about other companies and games alot more then they talk about their own. Im looking forward to this game, but im expecting something amazing with all the talking they have been doing for the last year. Has anyone heard anything interesting about this game besides the engine and graphics, or how its "better than [insert proven franchise game here]."
Fight! Fight! Fight!
Imo Gears of war 3 looks better than what I have seen of crysis 2 console versions so far
are you blind? http://www.youtube.com/watc... vs http://www.youtube.com/watc...
I gotta agree, Crysis 2 just isnt that good looking imo. Gears looks better in that video for sure.
@Active Reload i guess he's talking about these ugly vehicles http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Yup... that's the part of the game I was talking about. But I didn't say the vehicles were ugly. The design of them is actually pretty good. It's just that the textures make it look like they're made of rubber instead of metal.
I've actually always thought the weapons, vehicles and even some of the characters in Gears looked like they were made out of rubber. @Active In Gears 2 there was this part where you were on a moving vehicle mowing down some locusts and at at the end this huge beast showed up. It all looked like rubber.
Well thing is UE is much older than the CryEngine 3 is it not? Also I want to see a game running on the CryEngine other than Crysis and I want to see it on consoles not on PC.
UE gets updated, too.
UE looks great if used well, some examples being Batman: AA, Mirror's Edge, and the Bioshock games (at least I think so). I'm more impressed by the raw abilities of the CryEngine, though. At the end of the day, a good dev can make something great out of either engine.
Well we will see tomorrow when xbox live have there exclusive Crysis 2 demo along with the long awaited Bulletstorm.
Well that's fine, but is the CryEngine as diverse? UE3 seems to work with almost any genre and artistic style, can CE3 do the same? I'm not really sure, we can't tell yet as all we've seen as far as tech demos go is weather effects, physics and military/fps games. I'm no fanboy of epic though, don't even like Gears personally but I know that the engine is excellent, even after being so old little modifications can still improve it tremendously.
I thought the reason so many developers are using the UE3 was because it was flexible, fairly easy to use and mostly because of Epic's technical assistance. I don't know much about Crytek's customer service, but even if they can deliver the best of the two engine, if they're not able or willing to help other developers master their engine, expect UE3 to still be in use for a while.
I dont know about anything else but I know the cryengine map-maker is the easiest thing ever to use. The engine basically does all the work.
Crysis 2 looks sweet tbh. Fire fx look very nice. Looks very clean Love the shader/shadow work. It's an excellent engine. I hope more devs do start using it.
lol!! It's funny cuz it's true!! but did they have to say it?? Compared to CryEngine3 it is unreal!! Sometimes Unreal engine is a bunch of shiny clay!! As long as it is used to make good games it's all good!! http://www.youtube.com/watc...
I'm gonna keep this plain and simple..... I hate the Unreal engine, always have, always will. The Source, X-Ray, and Cryengine 2 are much better gaming engines. I've seen footage of the Cryengine3 being used by another game and I must say from what I saw the Cryengine3 is gonna be a BEAST.
One very good feature about the cryengine3 is that you can make games simultaneously for the PC-PS3-XBOX so no porting involved and it uses the full power of consoles, for now at least until improvements take place on the cryengine3.
the Unreal 3 engine is ancient now. They should release a new one
Yeah i dont think cry engine will be a console middleware like unreal engine. The consoles cant do what the pc can do with it. The consoles cant do what the first crysis can do. They cant really deal with this new engine. One graphics card is way more powerful than any console. What about these guys with two and four cards that can run at resolutions way past 1080P and can jack the texture detail way up. Thats something consoles cant do no matter how much people pull killzone out their butt. I have two cards from last year and i bet i can only run crysis 2 on high. I bet i wont be able to max it at 1080P res. But i cant wait to see Pc Gameplay on max settings. The game likes kinda dirty on consoles and doesnt has the wow factor the first crysis had. Im hope the Pc version hasnt been nerfed for the consoles
yes but you are missing the point... Everyone knows that the pc has the best graphics... the fact is that most people play on consoles because they are more affordable and you cant buy a high def pc for 300 dollars... I have no doubt that Uncharted could make a game on pc and it would destroy any other game because pc devs cant macth them on consoles... the truth is that no game can beat uncharted on consoles...and if they are the master in such old technology...imagine what they could do on pc? I am dissapointed that crysis could not even out do killzone 3 as I was in the Beta and Frozan dam out class any gameplay I have seen on crysis 2 on 369 in sound and graphics... I only wish they could make a game on mac to show that they are the graphic kings...
Thats not true i can build my own pc with a quad core cpu with graphics card that can run any game on high settings for 400bucks. And building pc's are easy you can learn how to do it yourself from youtube videos like i did. And thats using great parts, I can make a cheeper one for alot less if i put in a tri or dual core cpu. Then put in a card from last year thats on sale that can still run on high settings for about 100bucks. I can bring that price down to 300. And with cosair 650 powersources only costing about 70 bucks now you can run almost any high end graphics cards and have plenty of power left.
GEOW 3 and Bulletstorm are using the new updated version UE3.5 which is right on par with Cryteks Cryengine 3.
NEW TECH ALWAYS BEATS OLD TECH
I am sure gears 3 will look good. But crysis 2 looks amazing.
I agree, but I would like to hear Epic Games, Naughty Dog, and all the other big name response to this.
would be interesting to see naughty dogs POV becuase uncharted 2 looked awesome and how do we know those images of crysis 2 are for the pc or console? anyway Unreal engine is best for pc games but the cry engine is best for everybody :D
I have played the demo on XBL today. I have to say that Crysis is looking very very good for a multiplayer game demo. Sinde the Singleplayer looks normally better, I have very high hopes in the game.
Why would they choose Unreal Engine over their own? They worked like 10 years on CryEngine.
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