Dealspwn counts down the ten worst flops we've had the misfortune of playing, from the likes of Perfect Dark Zero and Dark Sector, to RE5 and Gran Turismo.
Top 10 Critical Flops
Since when is gt5 a flop, it delivered for the fans and its sold 2m in 2 days.
"A flop is something else. Sky-high expectations, and then a rocky descent, followed by a lackluster landing. I think that pretty much sums up GT5." I don't think he meant the actual game flopped in sales, it just flopped in terms of expectations.
well then whats the point in putting it #10 in next gen flops? Media these days...
Where's Alan Wake?
I thought Ninja Gaiden 2 was great. Just as brutal as Black and the camera is part of the Ninja Gaiden experience :P.
For being such a hardcore Forza fan, you sure to seem to have a penchant for being one of the first people to comment in almost every single major GT5-related article on this website. I can't tell if it's some sort of elaborate trolling scheme, or just sheer boredom.
And sums up every 360 exclusive this year.
Where's Splinter Cell: Conviction and Fable 3?
@ T9X69 Too Human says hi.
Force Unleashed? Really? You didn't mean the sequel? I liked it but I was surprised Bioshock 2 didn't make the list. EDIT: Agreed at Guitarded, such a letdown after YEARS of hype: 4 long, repetitive levels, wtf. That really gimped it for me, even multi got old quick.
They want GT5 to flop, but it can't and it won't. 360 fans saw low selling games as "flops", so let's not try and change its meaning whenever convinient, T9X69. Huge sales aside, every fan will buy this game, enjoy it and think it's great. Like it or not, GT5 will be far from a "flop".
This person needs to learn how to use flop correctly. It has never been used in the sense of reviews. Was Spiderman 3 a flop because of bad reviews despite making a billion dollars. A flop is based on sales. If GT5 sells less than 5 million in a year I think most would call it a flop but that is yet to be seen. This website is way to quick to judge.
"Next-Ge" Shouldn't it be "current gen"
Actually, some are current gen, some are last gen. At least in terms of media drive (DVD vs BD), motion control (camera vs stick), connectivity (that old thing vs Blue Tooth)...
"Dealspwn counts down the ten worst flops we've had the misfortune of playing" actually i loved most of these games, dark sector and re5 were great fun, ive played most of the games on this list. if they want flops look no further then two worlds and vampire rain! this list is a total flop!
Its a flop, lol http://n4g.com/news/655690/... right.......
"it delivered for the fans" If only...only we all went by that mentality then we wouldnt have a sh/t place like n4g.
no alan wake???
Atually very few of those games int he list actuallty flopped... it depends on their definition of flop tbh.
Well, like they wrote in the article, and like T9X69 stated, they're not referring to the sales of said games, nor are they looking at the scores the games received in itself, but they are comparing the expectations people had for the game during its development cycles, and what they got in the end. I believe that's how they managed to get some of these games on the list, since GT5 sold (and is still selling) very well and receiving great reviews, but, still according to these reviews (since I have yet to play GT5), is not all they thought it was going to be. The same applies for some of the games on the list, as RE5 is a very good game, just not a very good RE title, it received great reviews, great sales, but didn't meet the expectations RE fans had for the follow-up to the awesome RE4. And by the way, I wouldn't call Perfect Dark Zero awful, it might not have been the best game of its time, but back when it was released, it was quite enjoyable, and while a little bit too shiny, it didn't look half as bad as the article seems to say.
i think we need too re think the meaning of flop cuzz sum ppl are playing and enjoying Perfect Dark Zero.
No Haze, Too Human, Final Fantasy XIII and XIV, Lair, etc? Also, by his definition of a flop being something with sky high expectations falling short then both Fable 2 and 3 should be on that list.
GT5 had much higher expectations than Fable 2 and 3 combined.
I never said GT5 didn't deserve to be on the list. I love Gran Turismo 5, but it still doesn't meet the ungodly high expectations people had for it, so in that sense, yes it's a flop. I was pointing out that Fable 2 and 3 are a similar situation. Fable 2 at least had a very significant amount of hype around it based on the success of the first; and although the game definitely wasn't awful, it didn't meet the expectations that had been set for it.
I don't really understand where it fell short. It is the biggest racing game ever. Are people really saying it flopped because you can't switch out rims and you have to wait until level 40 for better damage?
i agree with Haze, Too Human, Final Fantasy XIII and XIV, Lair but fable was fun in no way a flop
I know it's not a flop, but by the author's definition of a flop ("This list isn’t necessarily for bad games. A flop is something else. Sky-high expectations, and then a rocky descent, followed by a lackluster landing.") it meets the criteria. That's mostly Molyneux's fault though for making it sound like it was going to be the Paragon of action RPGs, which it definitely is not.
Sigh...play GT5 properly for god's sake
who plays flops like that. JK
i loved resident evil 5 i wouldnt call it a flop. i would call gt5 a flop ether
These aren't bad games, but definitely didn't live up to hype: Alan Wake MAG White Knight Chronicles Final Fantasy XIII
mags awsome, one you get use to playing it instead of a crap game like cod where you can shoot everywhere and get a kill(i know i use to do it all the time
Cleavage + kicking much-loved games in the balls = 100 degrees and climbing.
Haze and Lair are next-gen flops but calling GT5 a flop is pure stupidity.(not calling any Xbox 360 flops because I don't own one and it wouldn't be fair to make that judgement.)
They clearly don't know what flop means.
Yes, a flop is where the company making it spent more money on it, that they made. It's a little early for GT5, but I'm sure it's on its way to recuperating its money. Article should be "Top 10 Next Gen Games that didn't meet my expectations"
nothing like dropping a list of games just to gather clicks... what is the world coming to... oh wait its the net... carry on nothing to see here....
Over 5 million dollars in sales, 8's and 9's out 10 all across the board, and some of the best graphics and co-op gameplay in the industry today. Big flop eh? I don't think so. That's just your personal opinion, but I present the facts. You present the racial issues and out-dated controls. Call of Duty's still using the same controls since the original, plus it also had controversial issues in MW2 with the airport scenario. But it sold well and got great reviews also. Anybody disagree?
Sales don't equal a good game, which is far from what RE5 was. I think alot of those ppl went out and bought it day 1, still jazzed off of the series revitalization that was RE4. 5 was a POOR cut and paste of that one, with a garbage story that went nowhere, and added a very annoying sidekick to boot. Hence the flop.
People got what they wanted. It's funny everyone praised RE4. The hype only lasted one game, before everyone realize the flaws of RE4.
gt5? ninja gaiden? re5? sw fu? WTF Dumbest article of the month, congrats!
How is this still "next-gen?" 360 came out FIVE years ago. Sorry, that drives me nuts. I thought Crackdown 2 did well. I even liked it more than the first one.
Crackdwon 2 was almost 95% the same as the first game. Seriously, there was hardly any improvements.
I loved Dark Sector, and GT5 is amazing. I also found RE5 a good game, not great but fun to play with a decent story and nice graphics. I cannot comment about the other games, but the three I mentioned I liked.
wow this is my exact point made, there is no stopping point, HOW THE HELL IS GT 5 a flop its been out for less than a week and its that bad of a game, if its that bad then i would of thrown it out already. this gen is crap filled with retards from the new generation filled little punks who think there hot shit, wearing skinny tight pants
RE5 flop? 7 million sold,and best graphics./Japan games/
"Sky-high expectations, and then a rocky descent, followed by a lacklustre landing" I'm sorry, but this article fails just with this one sentence. I guess the author has the ability of foresight?? Anyone wish to enlighten me or say other wise?
Gaming media needs to die.
best comment of the day
N4g should start a site ban feature.Too much bullsh*t lists are going on.C'mon GT5 didn't reach expectations but flop.No!It may not be a 10game but 9 for sure.From when 9 has become flops.Dark Sector was one of those gems that no one played and the proof is different sites keeping it in most underrated game of last year in this list.Where's fable 3 and Conviction?There are atleast 10 rpgs this year that is better than this.Conviction?Was that a splinter cell title?
"Before I am set upon by slavering cosplayers, here this. I am a Star Wars fan. A huge fan, actually. And that’s why I consider The Force Unleashed to be the second worst flop of this generation." Oh wow, you don't like The Force Unleashed because you're a huge Star Wars fan? I forgave most of it's flaws because I am a huge Star Wars fan. I'd rather forgive something I like for being bad then something I don't like for being bad. Oh yes and "here this". Rofl.
I disagree more with this list than agree. AW is a greater flop than GT5. RE5 was an OK game I'd say flop only because of how great 4 was. Ns i ever played a bad NG game. Ive always had some form of entertainment from all NG's ive played, goin back to the NES. I dunno of 10 "flops" but here is some that have "underperformed" to my expectations off the top of my head. Id say Perfect Dark, AW, COD BL.OPs, RE2, GTA4, Lair . Besides my glass is half full lets discuss the top gems that werent expected this gen. Why focus on the bad when there is so much good out there? We have had some great unexpected games lets be positive.
No way Alan wake is a bigger flop than GT5....thats crazy talk (im talking quality here not sales) I think RARE should be ashamed of themselves, I know that harsh but PDZ was dreadful, and they could have made an amazing, much more conventional platformer but made a game that just didnt connect with the user base While it was a good game getting mostly 8/10's, RARE completely misjudged the 360 market, and in sales it flopped hard, and no proper or spiritual sequel to perfect dark? it seems thy're not even trying make good games anyone almost a total waste of money buying them wasnt it Microsoft
Well comparing the two is difficult, its apples and oranges really. But yes i do believe AW is a bigger "flop" than GT5. I dont think either is really a flop anyways im using their term. AW had just as long production time and the hype train was also full speed ahead and M$ fanboys jumped on that bandwagon just as hard as $ony's with GT5. AW was heralded as a new IP for the M$ brand. It never came close to the hype. Was it a bad game? No of course not, it was ok. Nothing to write home about you know. GT5 isnt perfect but still far FARRRRRR from a flop. So i look at it as less a flop than AW.
no it was a good game hence the 8.5 pretty much across the board Il give you an example of an ok game, Dark Sector
Gill, by no means am i knocking AW. I like the game it was an above average game to me. Just for the sake of discussion and my 2cents, in my opinion GT5>AW.
I loved RE5. I know I might be in the minority, but it's one of the most fun co-op experiences this gen. The guns are awesome, and it's truly super fun if you play with a pal. Sure, it's not scary, but the licker levels did creep me out a bit.. And you get used to the controls within 2 seconds. I thought I would hate it and never get used to it, but I stopped noticing them past the first level. Plus, the DLC Lost in Nightmares is terrifying, and made me jump quite a few times. Awesome stuff.
"I loved RE5. I know I might be in the minority, but it's one of the most fun co-op experiences this gen" So true! 60hours of fun with a friend on the sofa, that was awesome!
the only thing i remember alan wake being hyped for was graphics. Thats it. Wasn't alan wake a multiplatform game when announced then became a 360 exclusive. Either way I don't think anyone thought alan wake was going to be a million seller anyway. It's not the type of game people are just going to buy in mass numbers. Just like vanquish, lord of shadows, enslaved, etc.
flops from this list: RE5 (because it felt like a shooter with no scares at all) Perfect dark zero crackdown 2 maybe star wars, didn't play it..
What a failed article.
GT5 is not a flop, it had no hype because hell the series has always been the best. It was just in development for a longer than normal time and gamers just wanted it. Now Alan Wake on the other hand which was supposed to crush Uncharted 2 in graphics and game play didn't work out too well. Thanks M$ for mucking it up. And then there is Haze, ah yes the Halo killer and Gears of war slayer that couldn't kill a mosquito even if you hit it with the Haze box and Haze PS3 disc. Obviously the Devs were in a haze while making this game. And because I'm a PC gamer i'm fair and balanced therefore Bioshock 2 PC was bullcrap. Should of been free DLC. Some 2K developer at a meeting... "For Bioshock 2 we will just play the game backwards and give them a Big Daddy, we can make this in two weeks".
How is Perfect Dark Zero a flop? It sold over a million copies on launch and it's one of my favorite games of all time. I dumped 10+ hours daily into it online.
why????/ why are people still refering to 6 year old relics as next gen....720p is not and has not been next gen for 10 years,,,,,
I think that they are a bit too harsh on Perfect Dark Zero - and wrong about it being a critical flop. It's average reviews were 80%+ - not as high as Perfect Dark but respectable. The problem is in judging it against other games - games like Half Life 2, released before it, or Bioshock, released after it, are lauded for their 'realism', for their dark tone. PDZ, in comparison, has a cartoony, arcade-like graphical style and gameplay which favours shooting and simple objectives in relatively stylish settings rather than any depth of storyline whatsover. It has a very 80s look to it in places but that fits as a prequel. And it does seem happy to stick to an aesthetic and gameplay as if it's still the year 2000. But it works in an odd way as a launch game with its shininess and bizarre dialogue. It's leaden and pales as a rip roaring adventure but I just can't help liking it for all its oddity - Rare's sense of design is still lurking somewhere there, even hidden under graffiti and it still makes a change from the grittiness of some games. It fails to have any of the mystery of , say, Max Payne, and yet that somehow becomes oddly admirable - it's a game where you shoot shiny mannequins in underground stations and discos and nothing more. Really- nothing more.
This list is a joke!
" what we got was Red Steel, an ugly, glitchy, badly designed game that managed to eek out an existence simply because it was one of the few mature games on the Wii." Meh it still looks better than most wii games, considering its a launch title. And for something that was trying something new in such a short time span...I say it wasn't that horrible at all. Still hilariously bad though XD