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TechRadar: PlayStation Move‎ Review

TechRadar: We tried our best to confuse it. We span the controllers 360 degrees. No problem. We hid them behind our backs. The PS3 was un-phased. We punched as rapidly as we could, combining jabs with hooks and uppercuts in quick succession (with over six years of martial arts experience, we might add).

The PS3 tracked it all. We even crossed our arms over so the controllers were on the wrong side of our bodies. Our fighter just did the same – and looked as idiotic as us.

And how well does it cater to the hardcore? Well, if first-person shooters Killzone 3 and Socom 4 (which have the Move handle your aim while the Nav controller's analogue stick does movement) are anything to go by, this controller's potential is limited only by the abilities and imaginations of the developers making games for it.

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scruffy_bear4979d ago

Another great review, can't wait to get it and play RE 5 Gold and Ruse

labaronx4979d ago

until time crisis comes out

i love time crisis !!!

scruffy_bear4979d ago

Same here looking forward to time crisis

rockleex4979d ago (Edited 4979d ago )

"The Nav controller also has motion-sensing functionality although, without the glowing orb, it's not quite as advanced; more similar to that of the Wii Remote."

This is expected:
"...three-axis accelerometer and angular rate sensors that can detect the controller's rotation and movement in any direction..."

This is NOT expected:
"But even that's not enough for Sony. It makes extra sure with an internal magnetometer – a digital compass, basically – which uses the Earth's gravitational pull to keep all those accelerometer readings in check..."

In fact, just read the whole article! They go into the tech and explain why Move really IS better than Motion Plus or Kinect!

Nineball21124979d ago

Yeah, the reviews seem to be kinda all over. This one is certainly positive though.

saint_john_paul_ii4979d ago

"Yeah, the reviews seem to be kinda all over."

i havent seen a negative review yet.

SasanovaS19874979d ago

i believe hes talking about game reviews, and mixing them with the move itself

Nineball21124979d ago

@ Sas... yeah, I should have been more specific. That's what I was getting at.

The hardware seems to be very well received and the initial batch of games for it... not so much.

colonel1794979d ago

what do those games have to do with move?

But those are really low scores for those games, they deserve much better score!

outrageous4979d ago

It was more infomercial than review which of course is suspicious. Saying the Wii is inaccurate is a lie...I have the Wii and it's mechanics are solid. The graphics are the issue on the Wii. Pointing out your competitors issues to justify your own is a bad, bad move and not the way you should try to market a new product which this person does.

Apple tried to justify the Apple Iphone antennae problems by saying Blackberry does the same thing...O_o

It's a launch and all launches of a new product have slight issues and usually feature crappy games. the problem here is Sony said it's design is far better than the Wii and then they launch Sony Move with Wii like games that don't work right.

mac_sparrow4979d ago

Try sports resort, disc golf.

Now use a frisbee throwing action.

Repeat by holding the controller in front of you, turning it to face your left, and thrusting it forward.

Notice anything? Yup, it works better when you don't mimic the thing you're supposed to be doing.

Motion Plus my arse. The wii has strengths, accurate motion control just isn't one of them.

callahan094979d ago

Didn't read like an infomercial to me. They tried to fool it, the thing tracked exactly what they were doing anyway, so they praise it for its accuracy.

And you say that the Wii being inaccurate is a lie? Really? The Wii IS inaccurate, there isn't even any room for opinion on the matter. The pointing capabilities are laughable. It constantly wonks out, loses your position, moves sluggishly, etc. The Wii controller also has no 3D tracking capabilities. Meaning that if I am playing a game where my remote represents a flashlight, for instance, on a Wii controller, it has no way of tracking me if I walk the controller towards the screen. The PS3 Move remote WILL track that, and appropriately the light will change to reflect the change in position. And Wii games that don't have the MotionPlus attachment capability usually only respond to vague gesture inputs, and can't do anything even resembling 1:1 tracking. Most games don't utilize the MotionPlus. There are other issues with Wii's accuracy and capability as well. The Move is definitely a much better, more precise, more comfortable, more versatile, and more capable device in terms of its hardware.

Mr_Bun4979d ago

"Saying the Wii is inaccurate is a lie...I have the Wii and it's mechanics are solid" LMFAO!!!

Okay, Omega

rockleex4979d ago (Edited 4979d ago )

Miyamoto himself spent 20 minutes trying to get Zelda to work at E3 this year.

Then they say "its because of all the camera flashes, lighting conditions, etc".

And that's EXACTLY the problem. The Wii requires a nice brightly lit room in order to work well.

So many times my friends have had to place candles in front of their IR sensor bar just to make it go from "totally messed up" to "working slightly".

While PS Move doesn't have ANY of those problems, and its still more accurate. Imagine that. ^_^

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cmrbe4979d ago

like Kung Fu Rider and The shoot which btw is an on rails shooter to score just as high as other core games like KZ2?.

If you do then that is hilarious. That's like expecting Afrika for Eyepet to score as high as MGS4.

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GodHandDee4979d ago

Great review from people who actually understand a damn about hardware.

-Alpha4979d ago

Lol. I certainly plan on doing this too

Carlos_Irwin_Estevez4979d ago

just ask it why you have so many bubbles.

RealityCheck4979d ago

I wonder if they will release the demos that Anton M. and Dr. Marks were using to show the move in all their demonstrations. Would be nice if it was an available download.

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redDevil874979d ago

"this controller's potential is limited only by the abilities and imaginations of the developers making games for it"

That says it all

OSU_Gamer4979d ago

I agree

The hardware is there but the games gotta deliver. I can't wait to try the hardcore titles yet to be released.

I really do wonder if being to realistic will make it harder to use for multiplayer. The last thing I want to do is be at a disadvantage.

I haven't seen to many Move videos for FPS's but can anyone tell me if it is a problem?

writersblock4979d ago

I've been around the official sony boards for KZ3, and they have an "ask the dev" thread where the developers actually answer questions

They said they're testing matches with move vs DS3 players and they havent noticed any significant change in a players performace using Move as opposed to a normal controller

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

Air Conflicts: Secret Wars debuted in 2011, and later updated for modern consoles. However, it's the PlayStation 3 edition that stands out.

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Why the PlayStation Move Failed

Sony's PlayStation Move may not have been able to contend with Nintendo's Wii, but it paved the way for PlayStation VR's success story.

SullysCigar950d ago

I use them most days and have for years 🤷🏻‍♂️

They're definitely way past a needed update, but I've got a tonne of fun out of them, so they haven't failed me.

bouzebbal949d ago

The best motion control platform it's so intuitive.. Died due to lack of support from Sony.. It had some amazing games

thorstein950d ago

They are used constantly for PSVR games. So, no they haven't failed. Neither has PSVR (or VR in general.)

Bigman4k950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

The article was talking about why it ps move failed before psvr came along

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH950d ago

It failed because it sucked plain and simple.

LOGICWINS950d ago

I feel that's a bit harsh. To this day, playing Killzone 3's campaign with PS Move/Sharpshooter gun combo is the most fun/immersive experience I've ever had with an FPS.

I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be, but it didn't "suck".

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH950d ago

It most definitely sucked. You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible. The entire motion control fad was a waste of resources and time. Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it...

Minute Man 721950d ago

@SPEAK

The Move was better that the Wii mote. If the Wii was anywhere accurate as the Move was you could say the Wii was better. Sure it sold boatloads but was it really played consistently??

yeahokwhatever950d ago

I played it in 3D with the move gun on a 100 inch projector and it BLEW MY MIND. I was exhausted, but i finished the campaign standing there.

SullysCigar950d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming"

Just no. Games release most weeks (for years now) that support Move controllers. Some ONLY use Move controllers.

Look, I get you're not a fan, but if you're going to rant, at least inform yourself in advance.

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LordoftheCritics950d ago

I would say both Move and Kinect weren't supported properly.

Sony and MS abandoned what could have been amazing.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH950d ago

Kinect sucked too. I would say Kinect may have been cool had it worked as intended but it was ahead of it's time. Both Kinect and Move are gimmicks nothing more. I honestly don't see why Sony still implements "motion controls" recent controllers. Who really uses that crap? And to play what?

Profchaos950d ago

I so t think Sony abandoned the move it's technically repurposed and still supported on the ps5 just for VR

RedDevils950d ago

Kinect should be kept as media interactive features.

LordoftheCritics950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
Again if it was supported right.

Where even a fast click of my fingers could get an immediate in game response.

It feels trash because we have been shown or lived with bad versions of gesture based tech. Think Minority Report fast. That could be something.

''You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible.''

No one is acting like it was special, I said it could be amazing.

''I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be''

Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game and then we can discuss profits.

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH950d ago

I don't deal in "what if". It wasn't supported right and even if it was it was still a gimmick.

thorstein950d ago

"Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game"

You just described every AAA PSVR game. And even the indies have incredible integration. No Man's Sky VR is insanely good.

Silly gameAr950d ago

And, you can act like it was horrible, but I had a blast with my Move. I had the whole collection of House of the Dead, Dead Space Extraction, and RE Darkside Cronicles, The Fight, and Socom 4, and I would play the hell out of those games I even beat a playthrough of the Resistance 3 campaign with the Move. Getting drunk and playing with friends was a freaking blast.

You can pretend that you had a move and played it all you want SPeak the Truth, but it was accurate, and usually on point. I hate when people act like they've played something just to trash it, when they really just have a vendetta, and think the Move is easy prey for your hate.

Minute Man 721950d ago

Wait you can play Dead Space with the Move?? I need it

Orchard950d ago

“You can pretend that you had a move”

I love this crazy idea that if someone has something bad to say about hardware/software - they must be lying about owning it and clearly do not own it!

Because all hardware and software has a 100% approval rating from all purchasers…

P_Bomb950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

Shoot I forgot about Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles. Had those too. Still do (digital).

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH950d ago

I have a vendetta against Move? Lmao that's the most ridiculous comment I've read today. I didn't buy it because like I said motion controls are gimmicks. I had a Wii and it was decent enough but a gimmick although successful. I had a Kinect and it too was trash. Don't act as if you know what I have and haven't owned. Move was nothing more than a Wiimote ripoff

yeahokwhatever950d ago

SO MANY really great experiences for the Move. The Fight was excellent!

Silly gameAr950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

@Minute Man

There was a game called Dead Space Extraction that you could play the Move with.

@Orchard. Please don't reply to me, because every time I say something to you, I magically end up restricted. So, just ignore me like I ignore you, so there will be no hurt feelings, please.

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Vanfernal950d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it..."

That is demostrably false.... Most VR games have motion controls and the PSVR uses the Move controllers.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH950d ago (Edited 950d ago )

VR games have a controller most of the time not some magic wand. And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect. I'm not a fan of VR either. A controller and a couch is all I need for my gaming needs.

Vanfernal950d ago

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH

"And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect."

PSVR LITERALLY uses the Move controllers. Now it's just obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying Move failed and nobody uses it anymore when it's an integral part of PSVR and is still being used in 2021.

ScootaKuH950d ago

It didn't suck. It worked but the games just weren't there, that's why it failed.

Father__Merrin950d ago

The move was excellent it was 1 to 1 precise time crisis was a joy to play aswell as sports champions it didn't hit mainstream as it was an addon unlike Nintendo wiimote

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Godmars290950d ago

Lack of games that proved the concept that 3rd parties could then copy en masse?

Silly Mammo949d ago

I wish that someone would have made a proper boxing game. I still have a blast with the Sports Champions boxing, but to have a boxing game that was more in-depth would have been awesome.

Dario_DC949d ago

Try Creed for PSVR, it's brilliant

OMGitzThatGuy950d ago

Because it was a uninspired ripoff of the Wii controller without the Nintendo library to back it and didn't try to put any real effort into development such as getting their top developers to make games for it and instead gave tech demos disguised as games to their least talented developers so the best can focus on single player only games.

Ryushaa950d ago

Except the Move was an idea roughly implemented in the PS2. Yes, I'm serious.
Just search on youtube: PlayStation 2 - Motion Controller (2004)

Nonetheless, just like the whole Wii, it was more of a gimmick than a proper input evolution in games.

jukins950d ago

Exactly. Its funny time and time again sony is the first innovate. Often at its own peril. Like your example the move started on ps2 taken advantage of by nintendo. Sony buys gakai for game streaming only for other companies to overtake them.

Profchaos950d ago

Are you talking about the gametrak on os2 which used strings to track your hand position I used to have this and a gold game it was awesome but the game itself sucked if it had integration with tiger woods or something it would be way better the tracking was excellent even back then as it wasn't using guesswork.
However the game was very forgiving and no way to turn it harder and no licensed players or courses hurt it.

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yeahokwhatever950d ago

99% of the Wii's games were "shovelware", in fact, I think thats what started that phrase..

EvertonFC950d ago

Socom, killzone, resistance and tiger wood 14 were great with the move but agree lacked more games.

yeahokwhatever950d ago

There were plenty of games and I'm glad that not every game became a Move game.

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These PS3 Games are Going to get Really Expensive

Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.

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CDbiggen952d ago

There's a reason I didn't buy most of these when they came out.

MadLad952d ago

After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.

What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?

mkis007952d ago

Emulation doesn't stop a games physical box from becoming collectible.

Knightofelemia952d ago

I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.

neutralgamer1992952d ago

In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed

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neutralgamer1992952d ago

Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already

And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time

MadLad952d ago

Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.

Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.

franwex952d ago

I got mine for $5 at Walmart like 10 years ago. I have yet to play it.

neutralgamer1992952d ago

It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems

You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years

Mr Logic952d ago

Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.

MadLad952d ago (Edited 952d ago )

@neutral

Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.

I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.

I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.

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