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Submitted by rickhigbee 1637d ago | news

PS3 Hack Released

iPhone hacker extraordinaire George "Geohot" Hotz has released the exploit code he devised for properly hacking the PS3. Let the games begin! (Industry, PS3)

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PirateThom  +   1637d ago
I'm reading this and have no idea what I'm supposed to do with it.
Blaze929  +   1637d ago
Yeah I don't think it'll do us much good lol. Just let the smarter dudes handle this and release custom firmware for us simpler folk.

Anyway, can't wait to see where this goes. Can't wait for the homebrew and can't to rip all my PS2 games just straight to the HDD. No more converting MKV videos. GBA, Dreamcast, GBA, maybe even PSP emulators...aw man the possibilities. Can't wait ^_^

EDIT:

Sheesh, so many disagrees. Well SORRY if I want to mess around with and modify a device I paid $500 for so it'll get to my liking. Shoot me.

No doubt Sony is looking into this already. But this brings up questions:

"Mr Hotz said that the nature of his PS3 hack means that Sony may have difficulty patching the exploit. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/...

Would think it'd just be a simple - "look at what he release, see what goes along with that, then patch/disable/whatever that part/feature/whatever" no?
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PirateThom  +   1637d ago
I'd take RSX suppoer via Linux, don't care about doing anything with the Game OS since it covers everything I need, but I'd love to get some decent use of the Linux side, even if it's only for decent MAME emulation.
kaveti6616  +   1637d ago
Number 1: I'm never going to hack my PS3.

Number 2: It's not hard to do. Follow the steps, if they are there.
PirateThom  +   1637d ago
There are no steps and it requires opening the system and applying a pulse to a certain section.
DW  +   1637d ago
how big are those ISO IMAGES FOR PS3 GAMES again ???
... 25gigs ... 50gigs .. damn I barely have space on my local HD .. then there's the space on my ps3 HD ... this is stupid unless if they have a seriously nice compression routine to go a long with image making ... who would want to waste time, bandwidth, and HD space on this?

If kids take this seriously I'm investing in stocks related to the manufacturing of HDs with re-dunk-q-lous sizes. :D
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Chris399  +   1637d ago
Thom has it right.
The method is ridiculous. Won't work on a Slim and requires soldering or the application of a current, which could just fry the mobo. There will be a fantastic number of melted, ruined PS3 circuit boards over the next few months.

And he (the hacker) still hasn't gotten access to the Game OS, just the Linux side of things. There's a tremendous amount of reverse engineering still to be done, and no guarantee that you can peek into the PS3 side of things from Linux.

Isn't there additional encryption on PS3 software as well? If anyone has the answer, please let me know.
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jerethdagryphon  +   1637d ago
my linux savvy friend whos a programmer by profession, says all this does is free up the memory, and bypass hypervisor .

in other words

no sony os no games

its mainly for people who want to be able to utilise the full power of cell without sony, like buying a new cpu and mainboard without an os

it cant run games

it isnt usable by the laymen unless you understand this :

volatile int exploit_second_stage() {
unsigned long crap, j, slb1, slb2, msr, hsprg0;
unsigned long i, g1, g2, status, raff_ptr;
unsigned long vas_id, old_vas_id;
unsigned long act_htab_size;
//2, (24<<56)|(16<<48)
printk(KERN_ERR "construct address space: %d\n", lv1_construct_virtual_address_ space(20, 2, 0x1814000000000000, &vas_id, &act_htab_size));
lv1_get_virtual_address_space_ id_of_ppe(0, &old_vas_id);
printk(KERN_ERR "address space is %d, old was %d\n", vas_id, old_vas_id);
if(vas_id == 0) {
printk(KERN_ERR "ADDRESS SPACE FAIL\n");

its for hard core programmers and people with iqs 160+

its an exploit only usable in the phats and not even them much longer sony has this and will be working on a way to limit it

cells root key is still secured go away pirates
phosphor112  +   1637d ago
I can do this but...
I am NOT poking my PS3 while it's on. You have to poke it after you compile the kernel and run it under linux. It'll tell you to "press the button" then you poke the chip with a screw driver in the spot indicated in the picture. It'll break the circuit long enough for the hack to completely get through the security.
OmegaKulu  +   1637d ago
this only wrok with the fat ps3s.... since all slim doesn't allow other OS...can't really see it make that much of an impact
mushroomwig  +   1637d ago
@1.7 - jerethdagryphon
IQ isn't really relevant as anyone can learn programming, it just takes time and patience.
likedamaster  +   1637d ago
Well, he figured out the most important part... the exploit. Let the games begin(both fig. & lit.)! :D
ryuzu  +   1637d ago
It's not right, but if this can be "productised" then PS3 sales are gonna soar.

That'll be the end of the 360 almost overnight....

Problem for Sony is they can't afford for that to happen :/

r.
DaTruth  +   1637d ago
I was pissed when they patched my exploit for Nintendo games on PS3. There was no volume and no battery backup, but it was still great! Don't know why they care if I play old Nintendo games on my PS3.

BTW: Games use to be really hard. Megaman 2 was like Demon's Souls x 10!
FACTUAL evidence  +   1637d ago
!!!WARNINGiii
If you hack your system, Sony iz gunna probe that oss!*jokes*
Carbide7  +   1637d ago
So the PS3 is hacked ? No
Altough it's nice to capture all these HV calls and stuff from a plain (not encrypted) lv1 binary, but this will never lead to a hacked PS3.

Let's have a look. The major security architecture on the PS3 is called the "Secure Processing Vault" and is the most important thing regarding "hacking" the PS3.

There is NO WAY for the PPU or even the HV to gain access to the SPU, which is an application running inside of an isolated SPU.

Well you can kick out the isolated SPU, like geohot mentioned, but this gives you nothing, as ALL the encryption and execution of applications (HDD encryption, app encryption, decryption, executing, signature checking, root key extraction) happens inside the isolated SPU.

To run homebrew on the PS3 you would have to reassemble the whole functionality from the SPU inside a binary running on the PPU. For this you will need the root key.

The root key is stored in hardware (not even close to the things on the iPhone). The root key cannot be extracted by any software or hardware means and is essential to ALL encryption/decryption, executing and checking routines.

The only way to get the root key is inside of an isolated SPU, as it is kick-starting the hardware encryption facility. There is no other way to do that !

Let's just assume that geohot or some other guys are able to break into the local store of the isolated SPE. There they will just find some encrypted binaries.

The key for decryption is encrypted by the root key ! You won't get anywhere without the root key.

Let's assume that someone managed to do all those stuff from the isolated SPU on the PPU and creates a CFW (Custom Firmware)

There is still a secure booting environment. The first module loaded/bootet is integrity checked by the hardware crypto facility utilizing the root key. So you have also to address this booting stuff. Again, no root key, no booting.

So there's always runtime patching you might ask ? Not possible on the PS3 because the hardware crypto facility is able to check the signatures whenever it wants to.

And which part is responsible for this ? Exactly, the isolated SPU. So if you kick out the isolated SPU the system will not boot/run anymore.

The PS3 is neither an PSP nor an iPhone. It's the most secure system architecture of this time !
decimalator  +   1637d ago
@Carbide7

I have to agree with Carbide7, this is far from a "hacked PS3". It only works on OtherOS, meaning only pre-Slim models, and it's basically a foot in the door -- far, far, FAR from a "hacked PS3". You won't be playing any pirated games for awhile. It took over 3 years to get this far, I can't imagine it taking any less to get to the point where anything at the GameOS level is "hacked".

Not to say that it isn't incredible work by geohot.
sikbeta  +   1637d ago
Guys, this Hack is not going Anywhere

1· You need a PS3 Fat cuz it uses The Other OS Feature, so Just this take out all the PS3 Slim Owners and newcomers

2· You have to Open your Fat and toy with it in order to make this "work", let alone the fact that if you F#ck Up your PS3 Fat, there is No Replacement since Fat models are not manufactured anymore

3· As far as I know This work with an OLD FW, I don't know if there is a way to Downgrade the Current FW you have installed

Even if the Hackers want to go further with this, they need:

1· Unlock the RSX, something that is locked for the Other OS Feature

2· Fight Against The PS3 Security Architecture called "Secure Processing Vault"

3· Unlock the SPU used for the OS, something that can't be done cuz

a· You have the Other SPUs working to prevent this to happen and obviously the PPU, the GPU can't do anything in this part of the process

b· If you unlock it [something Impossible], any change can F#ck Up your Console cuz the Hardware recognise what's going on with the Console and any change is not allowed, that means, try it but if it doesn't Turn ON, Congratulations, you just F#cked Up your Console :P

4· Fight Against FW Updates

[EDIT]

D'OH! Carbide7 beat me, well take everything that I wrote as a little Resume of what he posted...
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Dsnyder  +   1637d ago
Yeah Im not believing anything till I see a video of the ps3 hacked in a video running emulators. So far im reading in comments you have to poke it with a screwdriver (wtf) to hack it. Sure whatver you say. You may have found a way to bypass security but that doesnt need you know a damn thing about how to manipulate the software within. The ps3 is pretty much unhackable due its complex hardware. But thats ok really. Sony gives us everything we need in firmware updates anyway.
GVON  +   1637d ago
@ Carbide7
I also read his blog earlier,unless your StreetskaterFU :O

http://streetskaterfu.blogs...

it's funny that these other Alternative Sources didn't post this,his previous blog a few hours earlier.

http://geohotps3.blogspot.c...

"I'm not that opposed to releasing the exploit, but I think the majority of you are going to be disappointed, even if you do get it working. Unless you have pushed the HV to it's limits, this exploit really isn't going to do much for you...yet. So install OtherOS and start playing around. If people start coming up with convincing reasons why they need the exploit to go further, I'll release it. It's just a waste to release if people can't make use of it."

basically he's given up,released this as if it's a big deal and spawned headlines like this
PS3 = Owned explicitgamer.com LOL

AS it's been said without the root there is nothing you can really do.But this was a great comment on his blog.

"archie4oz said...

@ragerino

SPE's aren't "deactivated", they're just stopped, i.e. idle. PS3 Linux isn't using them out of the box. It doesn't mean you can't. YDL comes with an SPE-gcc compiler and you can compile and execute code on the SPEs. You can even get IBM's XLC for PPE and SPE along with threading and matrix math libraries for free from IBM's website.

People b***hin' about Linux being restricted and it can't do HTPC are a bunch of crybabies. The fact of the matter is that you don't need access to RSX (yes it would be really nice, but it's not necessary) to decode HD videos. The fact of the matter is that people wanting the PS3 to be an HTPC have wasted years sitting on their asses obsessing about GPU access when all the processing power necessary was sitting right in front of their faces.

Even the bdp stack on the GameOS does the bulk of it's H.264 decoding on a couple of SPEs and only uses RSX for scaling and some filtering (also to conserve RAM).
January 26, 2010 1:53 AM "

geo replied

"George Hotz said...

@archie4oz

Spot on about the SPEs

And actually, the RSX being restricted is just theory as far as I know. OtherOS under the hypervisor may have the access required to write a 3D driver, just no one wrote one.
January 26, 2010 2:06 AM "

When I read that post,I sort felt he'd had enough.

That led into

"George Hotz said...

This is why the internet can't have nice things... (regarding a fake GH account lol)

I have already addressed the stuff about it not being hacked in the last blog post. Please read.
January 26, 2010 3:45 PM "

I'll never use piracy,but i've learnt lots from this over the 5 or so days,and it's good reading.Will it lead to anything who knows,but IBM and Sony designed a cracking system regarding security,and if this is advanced on,it could stop a lot of issues on all future systems.
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JBaby343  +   1637d ago
Get A Life
Why/how hackers get off on this stuff I'll never understand.
Ravage27  +   1637d ago
lol i don't get most of the complex stuff you guys are typing
but from what i can understand

a) The PS3 unique architecture is preventing these hackers from achieving the most sought after feature - ability to play pirated games

b) free publicity for PS3 :)
jut420  +   1637d ago
I don't condone pirating by any means, and by reading comments above it seems that pirating games is still way off if not impossible even with this exploit, but the main thing I care about is keeping hackers out of MP games. Killzone: Liberation is still to this day one of my favorite MP games on the PSP, and I had to stop playing for about a year (just recently started playing again) because the hackers were ridiculous. Every game I went to for a few straight weeks had at least one hacker in it who just took away the fun/challenge of being in a MP match and I just couldn't take it anymore, so I gave up. Luckily it's not as bad today (must have moved on to other games), but I just pray this never happens on PSN. Besides, I think Sony can probably keep people who have hacked consoles off PSN, if it ever does occur.
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ATi_Elite  +   1637d ago
No too mention
And you can give a very smart pirate all that info plus the root key and it still won't work.

The Cell has spu's... 1 for the OS 6 for game applications 1 sitting dormant.

the one sitting dormant can be reactivated anytime per firmware (if it's not already active) and "MAYBE" be used just to calculate and monitor security countermeasures within the system and translate encrypted code on the disk software.

One bad code, algorithm, etc and that 1 core could gimp the pirated system.

Not too mention I see SONY moving to Double Layer Blu-ray disk thus (making their games even better) and deterring pirating even more
because No one wants to download 50gb worth of Data. I don't care if it's Uncharted 3 game of the Millennium Edition 50gb is alot at any speed.

and if you did I guarantee you your ISP will contact you in regards to bandwidth limits. For example Comcast has a250gb monthly limit

So Sony's PS3 is a safe well engineered item that CAN be hacked but not like other consoles.
badz149  +   1637d ago
LOL @explicitgamer.com
jumping the guns too quickly there don't you think? there's a long way to go before any 'real' hacks allowing for bootleg games (don't even try to deny it! hacker are dying for this to happen, THIS & ONLY THIS!) to be played and this is not even possible for the Slim just yet because it needs Linux! and it requires your PS3 to be ripped open and turned "ON" for this to work! hohoho...that looks 'safe'/s!

took over 3 years for anybody to come to this point (although just took this kid 5 weeks)! and from what I read, looks like he gave up! (I might be wrong though) some people will look into this as deep as they can but while they're busy trying to hack their PS3, I'll use mine as it is! good luck!
Consoldtobots  +   1637d ago
"IQ isn't really relevant as anyone can learn programming, it just takes time and patience."

have you tried teaching hexadecimal math to the morons coming out of the schools today? lol
vhero  +   1637d ago
Gonna have to wait for a few weeks before anybody can actually do anything with it.. Seems it may also need linux to work too So useless for slims really.. He also said its got limited access so there ain't much you can do with it. This isn't much of a hack.
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MovieScouse007  +   1637d ago
Hotz is the Friend of the Criminal!
What is this guy thinking?
The PS3 cost millions of Yen to develop. Games cost millions of dollars and pounds to develop. All this has done is make it possible for the grubby, greedy leech like cheat to play games without recompensing those who worked so hard and spent so much money to bring us good games, and it will be the good games that deserve our cash that will suffer!
He's allowing the avaricious criminal and the spineless software pirate to profit!
Guido  +   1637d ago
So in other words, if you are a complete douche bag....
This is the hack for you. If you are not and want to play games on your PS3, then stay away from this hack...? Right??
LoVeRSaMa  +   1636d ago
Ill be interested to see what the hacking community do with this, and I will also be interested to see how Sony respond.

Sony could put lots of money into re securing this exploit and fixing it fast, that would make sence, but I wonder if they do it.
Jamegohanssj5  +   1637d ago
That b!tch lied. He will rot in hell. Kratos is coming to see him.

TGSI
young juice  +   1637d ago
why do you keep saying "TGS!"?
Saaking  +   1637d ago
Yea I've always wondered what TGSI means.
Braska  +   1637d ago
Yeah, what's the deal super saiyan 5 gohan?
PirateThom  +   1637d ago
"The genius said it"
LittleBigSackBoy  +   1637d ago
Torrance Girls Softball League

or...
Temperature at Ground Snow Interface
Tactile Ground Surface Indicator
Tungsten Graphics Shader Infrastructure
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The Great Melon  +   1637d ago
I am glad I am not the only one who didn't know that acronym.
Noob  +   1637d ago
lol!
I thought I was the only one who didn't know what it meant.
bjornbear  +   1637d ago
omg
so true since day one i asked myself wtf TGSI was =O!!!

TELL US =3
ReservoirDog316  +   1637d ago
Yeah, like PirateThom said. He said it the last time someone asked.

TGSI = The genius said it
Jamegohanssj5  +   1637d ago
You guys truly make my day when that question is brought to attention. Bubbles all around : v ).

TGSI
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Voozi  +   1637d ago
And here I thought he just kept saying "Tokyo Game Show"
UnSelf  +   1637d ago
@2.11
me tooooo!!!!
Whitefox789  +   1637d ago
@Bubbles
me three.
NatureOfLogic  +   1637d ago
@ Voozi
LOL me too
SCThor  +   1637d ago
me four!!
bubbles to all above me.
Pillage05  +   1637d ago
LMAO ...I wasn't going to admit that I had been thinking it had something to do with Tokyo Game Show....but I'm glad I wasn't alone there.
tedyesca  +   1636d ago
not tokyo game show ingenuity?
lol..i thought it was that i thought the i was for upside down exclamation like the '1'... lol
hatchimatchi  +   1636d ago
Ha, I too would always say "tokyo game show..." in my head when reading TGSI. I'm glad I know what it means now. Thanks Thom!
rickhigbee  +   1637d ago
What to do with it...
Just wait... can you say XBMC, homebrew and MKV support? Once people get their minds around this, the sky is the limit.
PotNoodle  +   1637d ago
XBMC, homebrew and MKV support? Once people get their minds around this, the sky is the limit.
evilmonkey501  +   1637d ago
Since I stream to my ps3 anyway
mkv support is moot. Tsmuxer does a GREAT job of transcoding in java through ps3 media server.

http://ps3mediaserver.blogs...
DW  +   1637d ago
now this is an idea ....
... I would more like to see things like mkv support, and other formats and external device support.
GrandDragon  +   1637d ago
Wait didn't he say he wasn't going to use the hack for pirating games? well now that he's made it available to all the "POOR" hackers of the world the first thoughts in their minds will be "PIRATE! PIRATE! PIRATE!" and he'll be responsible for every hacked PS3 and every pirated PS3 game.

What an idiot seriously, I hope Sony have a plan to counter this buffoon.

@below....NO! I'm not
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kaveti6616  +   1637d ago
I hope you're not one of those people that laughs at the fact that every 360 game gets pirated.
evilmonkey501  +   1637d ago
I laugh
My xbox literally destroys discs so, why the hell not? Example:
Oh crap, my xbox just destroyed another disc by scratching it with the laser lens! what do I do? burn another? ok. lol

edit:I dont pirate ANY games....Im just a smarta$$.
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Blaze929  +   1637d ago
@GrandDragon
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/...

He admitted that it could also allow people to run pirated games.

"I'm not going to personally have anything to do with that," he told BBC News.
JL  +   1637d ago
You still have the problem of actually pirating PS3 games. What with the cost to buy a blu-ray burner (about $200), plus the cost of discs (a 15 pack will cost you like $40). Then you have the problem of downloading all that data. In Japan it wouldn't be as much of a problem. However, in the US and UK where the average speed is more like 5 megabits per second, then it becomes a huge problem. It would take you something like 10 hours of non-stop downloading just to download one game.

On top of that you got to factor in the attention it would bring downloading all that information. I'm sure most people have Comcast here in the US. And they have no problem whatsoever cutting you off if you download too much (even though it's illegal to do such a thing).

The point is, hacked or not, pirating games on the PS3 is just not prudent at this time.

However, Homebrew and stuff like that would be interesting. I'd still never risk it though and hack my ps3 as it already does plenty of what I want it do do and all of what I need it to at this point.
Foxgod  +   1637d ago
@guy above.

Depends if this hack allows booting iso's, then you dont need to burn anything.
Whitefox789  +   1637d ago
@foxgod
His main concern was dling the data of the PS3 game which can range from 25 to 50 gb and if you were to transfer that data from your computer to your PS3 HDD you would need to use an external HDD or find a way to put a FTP application on the PS3.

Either way though this hack doesn't really do much for software manipulation was their a list of what this guy said he was able to do after he hacked it? I think the one thing he said was PS2 emulation which essentially I'm guessing he just took the allotted space from the other os feature and just found a way to put in the PS2 data. I got just about half of what this guy did to do it. I'm not gonna risk opening up however. Nor do I have a FPGA board to send a pulse to the PS3.
Ravage27  +   1637d ago
just curious
why are so many ppl disagreeing with GrandDragon? When there's ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with his comment
Whitefox789  +   1636d ago
@Ravage27
I'm guessing because either because this exploit is far from getting a hacked PS3 to play pirated games. Also Geo Hotz didn't really intentionally made this hack for piracy so that might be another reason for the disagrees.
SoapShoes  +   1637d ago
Blah...
Ruining it for everyone else... This guy sucks, he'll turn the PS3 into the PSP which has lacked support due to piracy.
Hellsvacancy  +   1637d ago
The 360 still gets support and that gets pirated ALL the time
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PirateThom  +   1637d ago
Only because the PSP wasn't just EASY to hack and required little knowledge to do it, but because it had initial firmware that RAN homebrew before Sony tried to backtrack it (which is why early firmware PSPs were sought after before the Pandora trick), which was impossible.

The 360 is also a far easier hack than the PS3 from what I do understand of this and developers didn't drop 360 support because of it.

That said, it's going to be a long time before there's anything usable from this and, based on what Hotz said, it won't work on the slim anyway due to most of this being through the Linux side of it. The "Game OS" is safe for now.
SoapShoes  +   1637d ago
lol @ you two...
Well no crap, the PSP has support also, it just has less than it should because of it. I'm betting piracy is the reason Capcom never released Devil May Cry on it, despite saying they were developing it. PSP games don't sell, despite the large install base. That's why the requirements are only 250k to qualify for greatest hits unlike PS2 where it was 900k and PS3 where it was like 700k or something.
tdrules  +   1637d ago
thank god its not easy to do
mac4u10  +   1637d ago
Who approved this crap? we dont need things like this, especially not in a gaming site... come on
cmrbe  +   1637d ago
What i really really want
is region free Blu-ray.
DW  +   1637d ago
this would only make sense ...
.. if you're in Europe ... the ps3 can play both NA and most Asia Pack countries but surely not all ...

see here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
Rhythmattic  +   1637d ago
Just for Info sake.

http://bluray.liesinc.net/

Very Handy.
Lucreto  +   1637d ago
We all know the first people who read this was Sony. Hopefully they will find a flaw and seal this crack.
evilmonkey501  +   1637d ago
again...
this doesn't work on slim...only phats.They don't make those anymore.It needs to be able to run linux, which the slims are "mysteriously" lacking the capability to do. Eventually, all hardware/software gets cracked.
rickhigbee  +   1637d ago
Forget pirating games...
not many people have the bandwidth to download 50gb games or the ability to burn Blu-ray disk. What I am excited about it using the hardware to it's fullest. Maybe a decent web browser, a souped up media player, homebrew apps and games. That's the community I want to see take off. I have never pirated a 360 Game and don't plan to start with my PS3. The Devs work far to hard for me to steal from the companies they work for.
SoapShoes  +   1637d ago
Hmmm
If you need linux for this, why not just download firefox for linux? Poof! Your solution to the web browser...
Godmars290  +   1637d ago
I wonder if - if? - this leads to piracy will the media use it as a PS3 negative, the way they haven't been using it against the 360?
Ravage27  +   1637d ago
oh trust me...
they will ;)
showtimefolks  +   1637d ago
media who?
the ones who give high scores to exclusives are fair others who give a 9/10 for mass effect 2 on gamespot so now gamespot is bad....

and i don't mean to disagree with you just saying tired of this MEDIA

4.5 million MW2 hacked on pc
800k plus on xbox360

and than pc gamers want to know why most games don't come out on pc maybe that's why....uall act like everything should be on a pc but yet most of you don't want to pay for it....

xbox360 and ps3 should have better tech to stop this and over 800k on xbox360 to me is a huge number for MW2
Godmars290  +   1637d ago
@showtimefolks
By media I mean the J-offs who literally make up a blog post then feed it to site like Kotako who then treat said fiction as fact.

Though I'm also talking about the media that made jokes about the PS3's price and attacked it for its lack of games while hawking the shovelware MS was putting out along with Gears1 and Oblivion.

People still call the PS3 "expensive" like its an insult while continuing to ignore the Arcade SKU as a non-fully functional online network console. Question why the 360 doesn't have a web browser while calling the PS3's crap.

Sure its crap, but at least its 1-20 chance of freezing that's actually there crap.
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Sarcasm  +   1636d ago
That's pretty much a given. I can see it now...

"ZOMG, Don't buy a PS3 because it supports piracy!"
Hot_tea  +   1637d ago
Hack the shi1t out of it...
That's what I say.
Like the earlier poster, I would love Linux to have full hardware gfx support, that way you wouldn't need custom ps3 firmware (unless u want to play pirated ISO's). You could just boot into linux to watch mkv's and such. And yes I know streaming is an answer but it has problems with lag on HD allot, and you cannot control overscan etc.. (stupid bravia)
Plus in these sh1tty economic times, why should I run my beastly 700watt psu PC, just to send video to my power eating PS3/HD TV combo.
My ps3 is our front room entertainment hub. But MKV would seal the deal.
Ooh baby! Hack the sh1t out of that beatch.
DW  +   1637d ago
how much coffee did you drink today guy?
:D
Chris399  +   1637d ago
Tea.
He's jacked up on tea, obviously.
Dutch Boogie  +   1637d ago
lol you made me spit out my coke.
Foxgod  +   1637d ago
So its possible to play Ps3 games for free now.

Nah, not interested.
showtimefolks  +   1637d ago
i like to see that to believe that
i doubt free games 50gb games are not easy to play or burn on bluray or even HDD

i hope sony puts a stop to this and can't they just bring him in court?

he is running his mouth where is sony's billion dollar law firm to stop this

i say hire people like this MS and sony instead of hacking have them find ways to make better tech to stop the hackers
Foxgod  +   1637d ago
Um, what 50 gb games?
Biggest game i saw on the web was 32 GB (Metal gear solid).
Multi's are about 10 gb averagely, and exclusives usually are around 18 ~ 22 gb.

These days, thats nothing.
And if the hack boots iso's,. then you dont have to burn anything.

Still, i dont care, its not gonna make me want a ps3 anytime soon.
Unless, like i said before, Konami makes Suikoden ps3 exclusive.

Anyway, he wont go to court, hes not the first person to release a hack.
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Narutone66  +   1637d ago
You seem
interested enough to troll the PS3 thread.
jerethdagryphon  +   1637d ago
nope not an iso booter not a bootloader not anything to pirate
games
KeiKei  +   1637d ago
@Foxgod
littlebigplanet is 48GB
xg-ei8ht  +   1637d ago
Convert your mkv's.

That's what i did with mine.
showtimefolks  +   1637d ago
what is mkv's?
????
Foxgod  +   1637d ago
Matroska containers, its for HD movies.
Hot_tea  +   1637d ago
That's all well and good,
But every method (without re-encoding entirely which is gay and ruins quality) out there to remux never hard codes the subs. And this is a problem when like me you allot of anime.
BubbleSystemSuck  +   1637d ago
Useless Exploit... now need bypass the bluray RomMark protection...
Viatrophy  +   1637d ago
hasn't that already been done?
I could be wrong (probably) but hasn't the Blu-Ray disc anti piracy software already been cracked? You see enough Blu-Ray rips on torrent websites.

Could be horribly wrong here, so say so if I am. :)
BubbleSystemSuck  +   1637d ago
you can remove a RomMark from any Bluray disc... But for the PS3, you need that watemark to verify the Bluray disc is original. You cant run a Bluray disc on your PS3 without RomMark... AACS and the other 3 protections.

And... you need to broke the encryptation on the HDD to access it...

PS3 is a Fortress
Bigboss19  +   1637d ago
This is good and bad at the same time i know alot of people who wouldn't buy a PS3 due to it not being hackable...Just asking how much for a "nude" blue-ray 25 gig let alone 50 gig after cost would it even be worth it?
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mushroomwig  +   1637d ago
"Mr Hotz said that the nature of his PS3 hack means that Sony may have difficulty patching the exploit. "

Lol really? Hmm, who has more resources? A billion dollar company or some random person? I think Sony will soooomehow find a way to patch this illegal hack and hopefully they'll file charges against you.
George Sears  +   1637d ago
The PSP begs to differ. Not only does the PSP have so many great advantages of being cracked, but you also get the benefits of Sony own somewhat good firmware updates. Best of both worlds.
jerethdagryphon  +   1637d ago
hotz is a certifiable genius, and at the rate hes going he will either be very rich or very dead
showtimefolks  +   1637d ago
i agree
people act like sony will say we give up hell no

while it would be nice for some of those features than you can't go online and that means 2nd ps3 than that means more sales

so i am not sure if sony has a problem with this i have a old 60gb ps3 so i don't care i play ps2 games all the time

but to say a billion dollar company won't do anything is pretty dumm
fullmetal297  +   1637d ago
@Mushroomwig
It took a Sony a completely new hardware revision to keep PSP piracy at bay, and even hackers still found a way exploit it eventually.
mushroomwig  +   1637d ago
@4.2

He gave out his full name when releasing illegal material, how smart can he really be?

In my opinion he's stupid to even try something like that, Sony will sue him so fast he won't know what hit him.
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xAlmostPro  +   1637d ago
i hear ya
BUT its his ps3, once you purchase something you cant be stopped from opening it up and doing what you want with it, hes not done anything illegal.. if however he had made a software that would allow games(as big as they are) to be pirated or to allow hacks that would cause inconvenience on say the PSN that would be illegal.. but this is a hack that allows him to read/write with his OWN hardware

and yes he has posted the exploit but again as crazy as it sounds its HIS exploit with his hardware
Consoldtobots  +   1637d ago
the fact that he "released" this exploit is all a lawyer needs to prove malicious intent and then this idiot is TOAST.
George Sears  +   1637d ago
I'm glad it's this complicated. He made jailbreaking the iPhone/iTouch way to easy and we have so many dumbasses roaming about using Rock and Cydia crying that an app doesn't work because they don't know WTF they are doing. If he does make it easier for the PS3, I hope he doesn't add that pic of his.
washingmachine  +   1637d ago
omg to have full linux support with full access to gpu would be tight,we will just have to see how it all goes down
fullmetal297  +   1637d ago
It's official now; I'm getting a PS3! Kudos to Geohot for taking the time and effort to hack the PS3, and I'm proud to be in same generation of kid him. Most kids our age are given everything on a patter, but he is one few exception.
showtimefolks  +   1637d ago
Foxgod
really a while ago on N4g there was a big article telling us the size of all the ps3 exclusives

and i saw a few games over 32 gb on that list not sure if that's true or not
Omega Zues  +   1637d ago
Its still very raw.
The hax it self its raw with little room atm, thats why hes expanding out to the community hoping for more help. But like many others have noted that Sony will quickly to jump all over this.
jay2  +   1637d ago
Well, the foundations are here.....
dkgshiz  +   1637d ago
haha
This is one difficult hack. Screw this, not even worth it.
mcnablejr  +   1637d ago
so much for uncrackable
.
JasonPC360PS3Wii  +   1637d ago
but but but teh cell
agent027  +   1637d ago
B-B-BUT THE RROD. :(

B-B-BUT TEH HALOZ!

B-B-BUT TEH EXCLUSIVES!

It's not easy to do morons. But the Flop60 is easy to crack. :-)
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ATi_Elite  +   1637d ago
Nothing is uncrackable and anybody who believes that is a No0b.

If Sony starts making games using double layer Blu-ray disc (50gb)
not only will the games be Ultra Amazing but who wants to download
50GB of data? Then risk messing up a $9.00 Double layer 50gb Blu-ray disk.

I don't see pirating on the PS3 on the same level as the 360 Wii or PSP
zag  +   1637d ago
From looking at the org page.

It's only working on 2.4.2 firmware, 3.15 comes out soon.

And it's only for the 1st and 2nd gen PS3's and again only does the OtherOS side of things, which currently doesn't allow PS3 games to run.

so not much point bothering with really.

Also I don't know what he means by opening up the scene it's been open since the PS3 first released.
AuToFiRE  +   1637d ago
silly bots
it only opens up level 1 access, games require level 2 access, so technically, its not hacked yet
UnwanteDreamz  +   1636d ago
LOL
Don't bother the trolls with little details like facts. Intelligence is like kryptonite to them.
AuToFiRE  +   1636d ago
well if we all use intelligence then the trolls will disappear
gamingisnotacrime  +   1637d ago
Nice way to harm the gaming industry
cheers

scsm
Zulwarn  +   1637d ago
BAH!
who cares BS3 games are...................NOT EVEN WORTH PIRATING!!
ZBlacktt  +   1637d ago
Can you list all the GOTY games on your console please... we'll wait.
mcnablejr  +   1637d ago
can you list any games.
other than kz2 ( i sold mine)
u2 ( i rented)
lbp (still have from bargain bin)
mgs4 (good game)

those are the only ps3 games that even appeal to me a bit
i have 2 ps3 atm =/

lots more xbox games =)
Budg3tG4m3r  +   1637d ago
ZBlacktt Gears of War on the 360 and UC2 on the PS3 are the only exclusive GOTY games for the 360 and PS3.
Shane Kim  +   1636d ago
So you forgot about MGS4 in 2008? And LBP should get one too but only one game can be GOTY.

In the 3 years that PS3 has been on the market, two of those years the PS3 won GOTY. That's more than I can say for the 360.
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UnwanteDreamz  +   1636d ago
So Jr
You bought 2 PS3s to play 4 games on? Wow did you think one of the PS3s was gonna die like your Xbox?

2 Consoles to play 4 games? Like I said in my above post.
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xAlmostPro  +   1637d ago
lol
it is complicated for non-hackers/coders but the exploit isnt for us, its for the guys who know about this shiz so they can develop software for the exploit etc. he's already said its enough to create homebrew and game backups..

and anyways this wont do anything for piracy i mean who's sad enough to spend hours(maybe even days depending on some peoples connections) downloading games over 20gbs? lol i dont think anyone is to be honest lol.. the only major thing i can see coming from this is custom firmware, allowing backwards compatability for ps2 games and emulators nothing BIG.. plus its still going to be awhile for this to affect slim users, since one guys going to have to study this and go back through it with the slim and find/solve any differences lol

and read his blog, there is ALOT of stuff he didnt find etc. when he says he's hacked the ps3 he only means the hypervisor and shiz not EVERYTHING its not 100% yet but i wouldnt give it long now though imo

but this right now as a whole, its not as big as it seems tbh..a break through yes, total piracy chaos? no
jerethdagryphon  +   1637d ago
since the exploit relies on the other os feature it cantbe used in its current state at all on the slim only thing that might possibly remain the same is the memory bus shorting
NoOoB101  +   1637d ago
Wow..

it took 4 years for ps3 to be cracked

4 minutes to crack the 360.

hmm, don't think any of you 360 fans should be in here trying to bash something that's far easier on to do on the 360 ;)
bjornbear  +   1637d ago
No
frearking way am i doing this.
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