Valve has released another update for the demo of their survival FPS Left 4 Dead 2, now available on Steam.
And just when I was about to buy L4D 2 for PC when it gets cheaper but not anymore. After all that bad mouthing about PSN/PS3 from Valve. Do they realize that most of the PS3 owners are adult and do have PC. If they don't want develop for PS3 that's fine, I couldn't careless cuz I do have PC. But they really disgusted me by saying those nonsenses. Well, I'm not gonna support these disgusted developers. Well done Valve. You just lost a customer. Edit: mintaro, have you been living under a rock? Go and look at N4G's front page.
How exactly did they badmouth PSN
By saying that it wasn't up to par to XBL or PC. Was proabbly talking about technical aspects, but the way it was said implied it was the actual people weren't worthy of playing the game. That they couldn't or wouldn't communicate at the necessary levels to make the game enjoyable. Basically giving a very lame excuse of why they don't port games to the PS3.
Cool story valve, too bad I deleted the L4D2 demo from my hard drive.
I'm done giving money to Valve, maybe then they will get bought out by a company with some class.
So your going to not buy a game because of what the dev says. Wow if that doesn't scream fanboy I don't know what does. Don't worry valve, me and the real gamers will keep buying, just ignore the political ones. You know, the ones who say they like PC and stuff but are hardcore ps3 fans who insulted your games in the past now want them, but you deny them so they say they won't buy your games. you know, 1% of the market.
Chec is the biggest ass at Valve, I'd just ignore him. I'm still getting the PC version since it looks really good. It's not like MW2 where they took a whole step backwards and screwed us over.
Am I a fanboy? Fanboy my ass. Here is my list of Valve Games which I currently do possess. Half-Life Generation (includes The Original Half-Life, Blue Shift, Opposing Force and Counter-Strike EU Version) Half-Life 2 Half-Life 2 Episode 1 Left4Dead When I buy a game, it's not just about buying&playing but also support the game makers. IN REAL LIFE SITUATION WOULD YOU BUY FROM A SELLER WHO CALLS YOU AN IDIOT??? As for you and others who are going to buy the game, good for you, it's your money after all.
Bubbles up. I'm not buying it. I have more valve games on my steam account than any other dev companies.
Know as someone in the PS3 camp this wont be taken seriously, and I've asked this before, but honestly, what demo needs an update just after its released? Much less two.
You act like an update is a bad thing. It's just small fixes that most companies would ignore once the demo is out the door but Valve's really finicky with their products, hence all the small updates.
Its updates that are one atop the other right after release. And again: its a demo. The demo of a 2nd gen version of a prior game. What could be effed up with it, not matter how small, that requires *TWO* updates?
Why don't you try clicking the article you're responding to? * Playback of intro movie now utilizes surround sound when available * Fixed sporadic Game UI crash * Fixed issue with missing RCON output on dedicated servers * Fixed dedicated server crash after 'quit' command is issued * Bots are no longer listed as players in game details UI * Added Coach's missing dialog subtitles Small. Updates. If you've EVER played a Valve game before you'd know that because of Steam, Valve can release the most minor of fixes and get everyone caught up to the save version almost instantly. Other devs have to wait until there's a gigantic stack of fixes and make a large patch.
ITS A DEMO! If Valve were as good as you think they are we wouldn't be having this conversation! That they have and often use Steam as a crutch is no real excuse.
I would rather have the demo get fixs to be tested, You know like a open beta test. then them to release broken games. or firmware. Now what all did PSN 3.0 do again? I mean one firmware update right after the other. I mean really thats just silly. I mean if sony was as good as you guys say they are they wouldn't need updates ever, I mean it does everything right out of the box doesn't it? OHHH see what I did there.
You're talking about the difference between something in development but released to the public for refinement, a public beta, and a representative example of something finished. Home, PSN is general, is a work in progress. Will become refined in part because of user interaction, feedback, as well as what Sony wants it to be. The L4D demo - is a demo. Something that should have been cleaned up and perfected before it was let out the door. They aren't often what they should be, but then they aren't fussed over either. That Valve has the ability to clean one up after its release where other's can't still doesn't excuse that it wasn't cleaned up before hand.
The game does have some issues. For example, with ATI cards that are in crossfire or anything that is X2 the game runs at 30 fps unless you minimize the game and open it again. I have some trouble with my ATI 4870X2. Setting aside the few issues, I thought the demo was pretty cool.
Sounds like a driver issue. Have you updated them?
Yea. Drivers are updated. Other people I've been talking to with similar setups with ATI cards are having the same issues. The original L4D had the same issue when it first came out. It's a minor nuisance. I'm sure Valve will have it fixed for launch or shortly afterwards.
Game looks and plays exactly like the first one. I thought about buying it, but I'm gonna pass.
As I stated before I'm boycoting Valve for the following reasons 1. they greddy idiots constantly ask for specail pricing on steam and try to get more money. They are lazy A$$es and cant figure out how to make Some PS3 games.
"1. they greddy idiots constantly ask for specail pricing on steam" What? Steam has some of the cheapest games and best deals around. (unless you're in Europe) "They are lazy A$$es and cant figure out how to make Some PS3 games. " Lazy? Valve is one of the biggest perfectionists in the gaming industry. That doesn't fall under 'lazy'. Why do you want their games on PS3 so bad? Their console games suck. If you want to play a Valve game, play it where it belongs on PC. That's like calling Insomniac lazy for not developing for the PC.
Just ignore some of these idiots. They don't play games, they just trash on them. Most of these guys didn't even play games before Ps3 and all there wasted money.
"unless you're in Europe" True! A lot of the games on steam can be bought here in retail for 10 or 20 euro cheaper, The only downside is how few places actually stock PC games. In my town I can only name 2. There's not a very large market for it here
Left 4 Dead 2 was a really fun demo. The guitar was really funny too! :D.. Though I doubt I will be able to pick this game up since other great titles are releasing right before it. Though I do take a bow to Valve and L4D2... Thanks! :D
confirmed wait till dead rising 2 comes
the points you proved in your post were full of logic and reason. We need more smart people like you on N4G.
This game was on my radar for purchase, but after that demo, I am not picking it up. I kept hearing everyone talk about how it feels so different and there is so much new stuff to warrant a new release, but it feels like the exact same game with a few new weapons that could have been updated into the original. My favorite thing about the demo was the chargers and the police zombies. Very cool additions.
I seem to be the opposite of everyone! I had little to no interest in getting this to begin with. I loved the first game but I wasn't keen on shelling out on what looked like an exact copy with minor changes so shortly after the first. But playing the demo reminded me of what I loved about the first... The sheer fun of it. Think it's safe to say I'll be picking this up after all
I got L4D1 but going to pass on this one. Played the l4d2 once and deleted it. It has improvements but feels too similar to the first. It really feels like an expansion pack to be honest.
definitely an expansion pack and the way I see it there never seems to be many people playing the first one these days.
The demo launched with quite alot of bugs, like the game always crashing as the last chapter finished, some fences and other models would be invisible, Spitters goo damaging you even when you're not on the actual goo, ect. Glad to see they're fixing them.
Well ive played it on Steam and Live now and loved it. L4D is very playable on my laptop,but I have to lower a few settings to get a good framerate. Has anyone used a 360 controller with their PC to play it? Im more comfortable with the controller.
Most game support controllers, but you'd be hard pressed to find someone that actually uses one. Once you get used to a mouse and keyboard you'll find it hard to go back to controllers. At least I did.
So people are crying like a 12 year old because a game dev said bad things about the console they love? You got to be kidding. Are some of you people really that sad and have no lives? Do you own the company to care? Buy games because they are good. But to sit and cry because someone "insulted" your "toy" and does not justify your purchase is so funny and pathetic its almost a crime. Grow up people. These companies just want your money. They could care less of you. Support game companies that make GOOD games and that's it. Crying like a pathetic fanboy because they insulted "your" console makes you look like a child.
To all the people who said they didn't add enough in the demo, I say.....no kidding!!! It's a freaking demo, it's not gonna have the whole game in it. Personally, the first time I hacked a zombie to pieces with a machete, I was sold.....the guitar was icing on the cake If you don't want it, that's one less moron I have to deal with online.....in fact, tell all you're friends not to get it so that's even less How you can honestly not see all the changes in this game from what has been said and the few new things in the demo is beyond me.....do you really want a 7 GB DLC piece? You've got three choices.... 1) You can whine because they didn't do exactly what you wanted them to even though there's millions of other people that play the game 2) You can buy the game because you think it's a good enough value 3) You can be quiet and let the people who wnat/care about the game to discuss it Honestly, if you don't want it then why are you posting on news topics about it? Sounds like some level of interest to me Oh, and the preorders already being double the number for the first one begs to differ that this is a flop...just saying
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