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New ‘Marathon’ Info: Bungie Morale, Launch Worries And Changing Plans

After a rough playtest and now plagiarism confirmation, Bungie is changing some Marathon plans and internally, things are bad.

Goodguy012d ago

Wish they'd just go back to making a simple fps game like halo. As much as I loved destiny 1, it got absolutely stale and a chore to play after the sequel came out. I ain't got that kinda time to waste so much on a single game with it's crazy grind and raids.

Just make a great story singleplayer game with co op optional. Add in traditional classic pvp. Support with some new maps and weapons for a couple of years. That's it. Move on to the next game and make a new great singleplayer story sequel with it. Unfortunately every dev thinks an fps game needs to be fully live service and chase trends.

RaidenBlack1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Or even go back earlier and make lore heavy Marathon(s) again, with similar gritty art style?

JEECE1d 12h ago

In your estimation, what was the last fps game to follow the traditional release model (rather than live service) you described in your comment, and actually maintain a solid player base outside the immediate release window?

I guess you could say Warhammer Space Marine 2 fits that category, although it's playerbase is I'm sure much lower than what Bungie would call a success.

crazyCoconuts1d 12h ago

Space Marine 2, despite not being huge, is still better success than this dead on arrival bull crap that we all knew would fail.
I'm not sure why having a persistent player base is required for success. Just make more money then it cost for you to make it.

Noskypeno14h ago

I hate how companies just view us as nothing more than math equations. Just make a game you want to play and chances are it'll sell millions with good marketing and the name behind it. Greed and lack of creativity is what's killing gaming(which is ironic since so many of these types of games don't make money) unless you make a turn based game which not everyone is into.

Sciurus_vulgaris1d 15h ago

It really sad that a dev would simply slap a classic IP name onto something completely unrelated. While I may come off as being overly pessimistic. I very firmly believe Bungie’s upcoming “Marathon” will not do well. It’s not getting the hype and engagement needed for a successful live-service game.

CrimsonWing691d 12h ago

We, uh, gonna start throwing in the towel for GaaS stuff, Sony?

crazyCoconuts1d 11h ago

Not yet... There may be one or two studios yet that haven't been completely derailed

OhReginald1d 1h ago

Nah at this point it's like fighting a hydra. Cut off one of the heads (Firewalk Studios) and another grows in its place ( TeamLFG).....

vTuro2415h ago

If their games follow the same design philosophy as Concord and Marathon then they'll bomb just as hard. If they do then honestly I'd just cancel them right now if I were Sony and eat the loss, and save whatever face possible.

anast1d 12h ago

I knew this game was a stupid idea.

goken1d 11h ago

I wonder how many ways they want to take the same arena slap a different coat of paint on it and fail, before it occurs to them to try something else…

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It’s Just Over For ‘Marathon’

Marathon has always been teetered on the edge of future failure, but now that seems set in stone after recent events.

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slate911d 9h ago

Forbes is on a warpath lol

CrashMania1d 8h ago

Paul Tassi is a known xbox/MS stooge.

Saying that, Marathon looks so meh to me, absolutely no interest at all.

JEECE1d 7h ago

Once he wrote an article characterizing Horizon Forbidden West, which came out over a year after the PS5 released, as a PS5 "launch game." Assuming this was just a mistake, I pointed out to him that "launch games" for a console are widely understood to be the games that come out on the day of a console's launch or in the immediate window thereafter. He responded and told me that he understood "launch game" to mean a game that launches, which would mean that every game that releases on a console is a "launch game" for that console.

I've basically ignored everything he has said since then. But I don't care about Marathon either way; playing Hunt: Showdown turned me off this genre pretty much.

Killer2020UK21h ago

He sounds like a stubborn moron

Notellin15h ago

He's a Sony and Destiny fanboy. Has been forever. He plays Destiny 2 on PS5, what are you even talking about?

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neutralgamer19921d 9h ago

If I was running Sony why would I not try to have bungie reboot Killzone and have it as their Halo. Honestly I don't know how Sony could justify that 3.6 billion purchase price. Insomniac games at 256 million has been their greatest acquisition in Playstation history for what they have already delivered and what's the pipeline

Profchaos1d 8h ago

The smart money would have given them killzone but they brought them to be a pillar of their live services investment and seeming have no interest in allowing them near a single player story driven game again.

Lightning771d 3h ago

The bigger mistake imo is not having them do any SP projects. Just all LS stuff.

Also want to clear up some misinformation on my part about Marathon. It wasn't due to creative differences as to why Jade left it was due to early internal Play tests were reportedly not received very well. Which probably prompted her to leave. My fault on that.

Ghostwood1d 8h ago

It does look like ass shit.

Would pulling the plug now make any difference or is Bungie thoroughly cooked regardless?

peppeaccardo1d 8h ago

Since when Forbes is relevant for the gaming community?

Profchaos20h ago

Have a read and you can't say they are not wrong.

S2Killinit16h ago

I had a read and it was pure hyperbole

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Bungie Responds to Unauthorized Use of Art in Marathon

Bungie: "We immediately investigated a concern regarding unauthorized use of artist decals in Marathon and confirmed that a former Bungie artist included these in a texture sheet that was ultimately used in-game.

This issue was unknown by our existing art team, and we are still reviewing how this oversight occurred.

We take matters like this very seriously. We have reached out to @4nt1r34l to discuss this issue and are committed to do right by the artist."

OtterX4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

"However, one thing Marathon’s been almost universally praised for is its art style."

Eh, I've heard a lot of dislike for the bleak art style. "Universally praised" would mean that hardly anyone dislikes it. This is a pretty dishonest article. I'm personally not a big fan of it either.

https://gamerant.com/marath...

PapaBop4d ago

I don't mind the art style so to speak but watching footage, the world looked really bland and lacked detail, reminded me of a mid budget VR game.

Pyrofire953d ago

They said it was universal so you might just unaware just how much you do in fact praise its art style.

Notellin3d ago

I have a hard time finding anyone who is praising the art style. All I see are complaints.

S2Killinit3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Probably because the boo boys are more vocal. I mean most of us haven’t really played it and its still in development, so how can we praise it? Meanwhile the boo boys don’t need objectivity to criticize a game that has not launched yet.

The art style, I personally like it. But I also need at least a good lore to get into games as I am usually not a multiplayer only kind of gamer.

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I have never seen anyone praise Marathon for its art style, in fact, I think it's one of the things that is universally hated about this game.

Juiceup3d ago

Since the early days of destiny, Bungie has cemented itself as the undisputed King of being dishonest while technically not lying. They simply don't hype things up or make statements without some kind of bs. Their dishonest marketing speak bs has become their entire brand for me.

You have to look at politics to find worse.

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Kaii4d ago

What's shocking is the amount that they've copied, thieving ghouls.

franwex4d ago

At least they’re trying to do right and admitted quickly that it was stolen. I give credit when credit is due.

I also dig the new art style, I know most people are mixed.

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Notellin3d ago

"I give credit when credit is due."

No you don't and this is an absolute lie. You aren't giving credit to the artist they stole from you're giving credit to the thief. You're a disgusting liar if anything.

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FlameWater4d ago

Game DOA, this is the closest they will get to mass promotion

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I knew it was DOA from the trailer, yeah, there's no recovering from this, it's Concord 2.0. I dread to see how many more of these Playstation had in production before they changed direction and cancelled the ones that were in the early stages.

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The Final ‘Marathon’ Closed Alpha Review: How Did It Go?

In the end, how did the Marathon Closed Alpha go? There are two components to this, how the game felt and how it was received more generally.

Notellin11d ago

It went poorly. We've got another Concord on our hands.