Badass gamer writes
"I am quite sure we are all well aware of the E3 2005 Killzone 2 Trailer, the one which had many people deep in thought as to whether it was pre-rendered or indeed actual gameplay, yes that infamous trailer that has caused a fair bit of controversy over the years...Has the actual Killzone 2 surpassed it?"
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Edit: Honestly I'm so over with the 2005 e3 trailer, the actual game looks so good it shouldn't even matter. You have to give GG props for coming pretty damn close to That awesome cgi trailer.
best looking console game, although I did note what it was talking about by in comparison to the facial textures being a slightly lower resolution, but it doesn't look bad at all. And Who cares when this game that runs at 1080i native. lol.
In the actual game, you don't have any of those luxuries. So visually, it actually surpasses the CGI in some ways in my opinion, but if you recorded actual gameplay it wouldn't look as impressive as the CGI trailer only because you've not been able to call the shots in the same way.
Edit @ iamtehpwn
The game runs at 720p native. There is no such thing as 1080i native; because 1080i has the same number of pixels as 1080p, and so then it would be 1080p native. When the devs said it supported 1080i native, they meant that they had a special mode that actually rendered fewer pixels so it would upscale better to 1080i. Seb clarified this after making his original comment, being asked, and then going back to the tech guys.
Has it surpassed everything else? YES!
It has not only surpassed the E3 Trailer, it has surpassed anything on the 360.. by leaps and beyond!!!
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that's sick! is that his helmet coming off?
Actually 1080i is a native resolution. its Interlaced, so draws the Odd/even horizontal lines one after the other. As with 1080P . its display progressively... All horizontal lines at once.
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Just wanted to clear that up.
EDIT: Maybe off topic , but there is 3 Really interesting Debug Videos , Albeit recorded in 2007.
http://www.dailymotion.com/...
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- The fire in the game looks better than in the trailer (just look how "CG" the fire looks in the trailer).
- The ISA looks pretty close; I'd have to wait until I see hair in the game for my final decision in reference to the trailer: so for now, the trailer is SLIGHTLY better because I wanna see hairdos like Old Snake.
- The Helghast look MUCH better in-game.
- The ground looks about even, with some trade-offs.
- The sky looks MUCH better than the trailer.
- The atmosphere is better in-game.
- From what I seen, smoke looks better in the trailer.
- The particle effects look much better in-game.
- The tech shown in game looks much better than what they shown in the trailer.
- Some animations from what I've seen looks more organic and "better" in the trailer, but the deaths look great to the point of "groundbreaking" in the game.
The overall lighting, effects and feel? By miles...
Its kind of a wash for me, which is amazing in itself but yeah this game is going to blow socks off when it comes out.
Saying YES is like saying that 360 is better console. Lies obviously.
No one can argue this.
All THEY can do now is point out that its not pre-rendered CGI.
I'll take the most advanced beautiful looking console game which is impossible on any other console but the PS3(tm), over a render any day.
no doubt there
This site is so sad
Yes,like the lightning.
...It killed meh ded.
KZ2 has killed trash box 360
u saw 5/5 from OPM US . didnt u
does it really matter at this point?
killzone 2 does not look as good as the 2005 cgi
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...
I have to ask, then, what your opinion is of Epic always falling drastically short of their incredibly fluffed up, post processed, crazy resolution, 16xAA'ed bullshots used for showing of their Unreal 3 engine titles like Gears of War and Unreal Tournament? Which is the greater "crime" against gamers?
As for Killzone, I'd say many aspects are damn close. It's an impressive visual feat to be sure, and I'm anxious to get more play time with it.
is that a question? 360 man are you insane? looking at that vid you linked it looked like sh!t http://www.gametrailers.com... here's a better one hope that jeep made it in the game "360" man lol go back to halo 2.5
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TECHNICALLY, the CGI trailer looks better, and you'll realize that once you take a closer look at particle effects and model/texture resolution. AESTHETICALLY, the actual game may look better, as they've developed a very distinct art style that just happens to look really friggin cool.
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I haven't had my hands on it yet, but I'm looking forward to this one.
And the fact that everyone has to argue about if it is better than the original render goes to show that they have gotten it close enough that it really does not matter.
The game looks great, and I hope to see lots of particles and bits flying everywhere when I'm in an actual fight, thats what I'm hoping for. And so far this is the nearest that any game has gotten to delivering this. fingers crossed.
they obviously have sony goggles on
because no matter what you would NEVER say, wait.. hold on yes it actualy has, im still not getting it, i think the PS3 is still a poor console but Killzone 2 has suprassed the original E3 trailer
and that my friends, is why your not even worth bothering with :)
one thing for sure KZ2 make gears of war 2 like a Wii game.
This comment was made by N4360G: " LOL He's a Nintendo Wii fanboy,ignore him.His opinion doesn't matter. "
It's sad, because someone likes the wii, their opinion suddenly doesn't matter.
huahuahuahua moron
by the way why you care really?
go enjoy Red Faction in 2009 that Maxes out your sh!tty console.
arent u even ahsamed to use X360 in ur tag
that shi88t console called TRASH BOX 360 is fit just for repair shops
KZ2 makes anything on that suck box look like pile poo and sheetbopx 360 owners are still talking
Just look at 360man's icon! that's the face x-boys will have when they see the final game play of killzone 2! but mommy and daddy can't afford it 4 them so they have to just watch gameplay on youtube! ha ha ha enjoy playing your game of the year "blowjob-kazooie"! ha ha!
In some aspects no but in many other parts it has.
with u.
Thanks for seeing this is a great game.
But i did not like res2 bought it played it sold it. i played the first on for months and i mean months.
there was a comparison video not long ago, E3 trailer against the BETA, yeah the BETA and the BETA had better sharper visuals and much much deeper colours
In all honesty I still don't think the game is a day one buy for me. Something about this game I just can't put my finger on yet.
Very impressed how close they've gotten. Can't wait for February!
but people insist on disagreeing with you. It amazes me how blind people can be. The CGI looks better in every aspect and all this talk about it not looking better is foolish. Lets just wait for the game and try not to over hype it. We've embarrassed ourselves enough in the past by throwing our faith towards games like haze and we weren't rewarded. If this game turns out to be as good as we all hope There will be no need for words nor will there be any that need to be said.
Just take off your goggles for a minute and join us in reality, or this thread.
Does it surpass? NO.
It's as simple as that. In some ways it looks better, but overall, no.
think the bots are ready to start waving the white flag LOL
EDIT @ Beg For Mercy: Glad to see you evolve from "fanboy/girl" to "Gamer". All fankiddes in general suck. Be better than them. It's ok to say something along the lines of "I tried halo 3 before, seemed cool, but not my type of game sadly." But stuff like "Pssh! GAYLO 3 sucks!" is just plain stupid. Not everyone likes the same thing, so if you talk to someone and they say they don't like the PS3 or they don't like uncharted, just hold your tongue and respect their opinion, we are all entitled to one after all.
The fire is better in the current build. The effects are way beyond anything. The animation is great. The facial expression etc. all look great.
I think even if it didn't totally reached that cgi trailer frame by frame, it does shows how good the game looks as it came really really closer, closer then most people ever thought it would.
Apart from that people comparing a console game to a cgi video, thats an achievement in itself.
couldn't agree more! And go panthers 2009 super bowl champs!!
your right nathan i liked resistance 2 a lot by the way ill stop acting like a fanboy, it just feels good to know that killzone 2 is not the failure all xbox fans wanted it to be so badly
Cmon fanboys, it obviously hasn't surpassed that trailer. But, its came damn close, almost as if one of two more levels of polish could recreate that trailer. Guerilla Games has done an amazing job, and fanboy or not, you can't deny the beauty of this game.
I looked at that so called E3 2005 footage again.
It sucked, the only thing nice about it was the details. Even those weren't too awesome.
Killzone 2 actually has some lighting now.
Only thing that is not as good is the character models (how they move) Imo it's a little stiffer, but it certainly surpassed it.
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Fire is more detailed (when soldiers are on fire in the new code)
Facial features are much better in the 2005 footage.
The smoke is much better.
And explosions have more smoke. That's all I see so far.
Really? I thought that fire looked terrible.
To me, it looks like someone took a marker and tried to color fire onto them.
I must say no and yes.
It seems the art direction changed somewhat. And the tone was darkened. I, however, really liked the facial animation and the fluid movements in "E305".
Did K2 completely surpass E305? My opinion, no. Did K2 surpass E305 in certain aspects? Absolutely. Will the PS3 make a game that will surpass E305 in the near future? Guaranteed.
But despite anyones opinion on this comparison. I have to add. It's something really special about a game when you can compare the graphic's quality to a CGI trailer. This game will be part of my library first day. Preferably in Special/Limited Edition form. :)
now give me a CE/LE Helghast figure dammit!
Much grittier darker tone now.
Aparently the games delivers...
Yeah! Its the Official Playstation Magazine, but they gave Warkawk a 6/10, They gave Uncharted an 8/10, Lair a 5/10 and Haze an 5/10. So for me theiy are not as biased as some people may think. For me Uncharted deserved at least a 9...
Ohh BTW Killzone 2 gets a perfect 5/5 (10/10 for the morons)
and so did SF4!!!!
KILLZONE 2 FTW!!
http://www.ps3forums.com/sh...
So close but not quite there.
The facials, animation, explosions, rocket trails still need improvement. And the explosions - which are truly awesome in the trailer - can be easily copied/achieved. Spectacular explosions and rocket trailers would make KZ2 such a rewarding experience just in themselves.
But the thing is, GG could have actually achieved everything scene for scene for the game.
Fck, GG would have made a masterpiece if they created the exact same level - ingame - as they had shown in the TARGET trailer of 2005. I don't think it's ever been done. Oh, well. Water under the bridge.
Once both consoles get cheaper, all the actual gamers end up getting the one they don't have already.
Its only during a console's first few years where there really is that 'fanboy war' because mainly most people can only afford to get 1.