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PS Vita as Second Controller for PS4?, "Depends on Developers"

Shuhei Yoshida is President of Sony's Worldwide Studios for SCE has confirmed that Playstation VITA cannot be used as a second controller to Playstation 4.

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MariaHelFutura1093d ago

That sucks, but I kind of expected this.

Need4Game1093d ago

Of course PS Vita cannot be used as a Second Controller on PS4, its because PS4 is not out yet.

What about PS Vita as the First Controller or Third or Forth controller?

mewhy321093d ago

All games are "required" to work with Vita.

thechosenone1092d ago

"Unless a game is specifically programmed to allow such use of PS Vita"

So it's definitely possible but not by default.

kfloydchicken1092d ago (Edited 1092d ago )

POSSIBLY WRONG TITLE !!!

FROM THE ARTICLE / Twitter
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"@InsideEddie Hey BRO! In a normal sense, no. Unless a game is specifically programmed to allow such use of PS Vita."

darthv721092d ago

It could probably be done at some point. I can recall the GBA could be used as a controller for certain games on the gamecube.

The added circle pad pro for the 3ds could potentially lead to the 3ds being some sort of controller option for the wii-u.

I wouldnt lose hope just yet.

MaxXAttaxX1092d ago (Edited 1092d ago )

Title is wrong.
It CAN be used as a controller. It depends on the games.

Not sure why you'd want to use the Vita as a PS4 controller though.
However, Vita Cross-Control features and Remote Play, hell yeah!

abzdine1092d ago

vita cannot be used as a standard second controller for each game for the very simple reason that vita isn't mandatory for PS4 to work

King_many_layers1092d ago

This should be fairly obvious as there's no way that you can just flick a switch for it.

There are no r/l 2 triggers and no input for r/l 3 inputs available so a developer Needs to work in a control scheme that is as effective and natural.

Guwapo771092d ago

@ Need4Game - OMFG I thought I was going to die laughing.

good stuff bro.

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Dir_en_grey1092d ago

Misleading and made up title by submitter.

The tweet specifically said that Vita "CAN" work as a 2nd controller for PS4 if developers made it so.

So the title is completely wrong in saying that it "cannot be".

ANIALATOR1361092d ago

Funny how all the xbox fans have suddenly crawled out of the woodwork after the backlash has finished. You have hid away until now where you think the tables have turned and have the right to put a negative spin on every playstation article

ThatCanadianGuy5141092d ago

That what they do man.That's what they've always done.And when the smoke clears and it turns out they're wrong, they run back to their caves and wait for the next chance.

GABRIEL10301092d ago

Hi, Ms President what are doing here?

Please read

"Unless a game is specifically programmed to allow such use of PS Vita"

An update is enough in the future to allow to Vita be the second controller.

3-4-51092d ago

So games can't, unless the dev's make it so.

The Ability is actually there then, it's up to dev's to use it though.

Not bad news at all. It will be a huge bonus for dev's to include it as they will then have the handheld market playing their game.

They then can release a Vita game later on and have a better chance of sales because of the awareness of them as developers from their PS4 game that was played via the Vita.

bangshi1092d ago

This is using the Vita as a controller, not playing PS4 games on the Vita - but playing PS4 games _using_ the Vita as the controller instead of the DualShock 4.

All games will have Remote Play unless it requires the camera.

Christopher1092d ago

Wouldn't want to use my vita in the first place. Battery life is horrible.

MariaHelFutura1092d ago (Edited 1092d ago )

Great point. It nice as an option, but I'd rather just use a real 2nd controller. It's obviously more accurate aswell.

I would bubble you up, but that would be pointless.

Nicaragua1092d ago

In all fairness my Vita's battery life is a lot better than my WiiU gamepad.

If im using headphones then i dont think vita battery is bad at all.

badz1491092d ago

Vita's battery is not great but far from bad either! it's almost as good as current smartphones. my Samsung GS3 drain its juice like a thirsty camel even just by playing Candy Crush! play it for like an hour and it ask to connect the charger! (15% battery left)

I play more demanding games on my Vita and it easily give almost 2 hours of continuous play before saying the battery is low. on idle, the Vita easily last for days!

the Wii U gamepad however...that's the definition of horrible battery!

sinncross1092d ago

OMW Sony... MAKE IT A STANDARD FEATURE.

If all game require the PSV controlling mapping for remote play, how hard could it be to make the device a controller?

Seriously... what a stupid move. I am slightly disappointed by this.

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FamilyGuy1092d ago (Edited 1092d ago )

That's not expected at all actually. With remote play an all you'd think PS Vita as a controller would work automatically, at the very least with the games that already support remote play.

Not sure why anyone would want to though, aside from not having to purchase an additional controller, the DS4 is supposed to be a great improvement so I'm sure it would be the most comfortable way to play PS4 games.

I actually wish they'ed make a DS4 style controller for the PS3. A PS3 controller with the DS4 triggers an analogue sticks would be pretty cool.

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yeahokchief1092d ago (Edited 1092d ago )

Come on kid. Use your head.

Not all games are going to benefit from using a touchpad as the controller.

The simple games where you want more touch than you get with the touchpad on the dualshock or games where you want a second screen will be the ones to utilize the vita.

It would be a waste of resources for every developer to use the vita as a controller for every game. Are you really going to play call of duty with a vita as a controller? get real!

it will still be fantastic to use the vita for the games where it can add to the experience. you do not want every game to use this feature. lol.

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THC CELL1093d ago (Edited 1093d ago )

Don't care about second controller, games will work on vita thru remote play is a winner alone. Also if developers want too may as well of been said.

Elem1871092d ago (Edited 1092d ago )

I'm curious how bad the latency is going to be. Nintendo did it right by putting two wireless N chips on the device so one can handle network/internet while the other is strictly for streaming video to the gamepad.... if the PS4 doesn't have two seperate wireless chips the off tv play will have to piggy back off of your local area network which will add up to 100ms of latency (50ms each way)

Crillvirus811092d ago

I been saying this from the beginning ....the vita ps4 remote play is using wifi so it will be laggy

ChozenWoan1092d ago (Edited 1092d ago )

been remote playing PSN games with my vita and I've not noticed any lag. You have to remember that the vita's screen res is not that high so the PS3/PS4 doesn't have to send high bitrate video. So unless your playing something like KZ:SF or BF4 online, your not likely going to notice any lag.

badz1491092d ago

@Elem187 @Crillvirus81

you guys should try remote play for once before saying that it will be laggy! when games are coded to work with remote play, the lag is barely there to begin with! I've played LEGO Batman demo using remote play on my PSP and it worked great! GoW Collection and ICO collection works almost perfectly with remote play on the Vita too. and these are achieved with the PS3. We can only expect things to get better than it already is with the more powerful PS4!

the Wii U pad is useless for gaming out of the range from the Wii U but the Vita can do remote Play from anywhere with wifi. and The Wii U pad itself can't play the whole game while the Vita is pretty mush your PS4 in your pocket. 2 very different things!

sherimae24131093d ago

why does it needs to be a controller when you can play ps4 games on it through remote play instead....

nick3091092d ago

Thats something else entirely.

jujubee881092d ago

No. It's PART of the same thing. What the rumor is talking about is slicing off the easiest part of remote play and doing that.

This is literally the easiest computer language trick, you literally just isolate the gamepad API to say "listen for the wireless signal from a dualshock 4 (in this case, a vita instead)" and boom.

Remote play is built on the same fundamentals, but adds a compressed video to be beamed to the vita display too. I guess what some might want is literally to have a blankass vita display while just using it as another DS4.

Hicken1092d ago

Well, technically, since the Vita has pretty much all the functions of the DS4, it CAN be a controller. And, in fact, the response actually SAYS that it's up to the dev to allow for it.

The title here is just somebody trolling.

Cam9771092d ago

P4G!
And yes, I agree, although it would be a decent feature, I guess.

DigitalRaptor1092d ago (Edited 1092d ago )

The Vita is different, build and feature- wise to the DualShock 4.

But if you can remote play PS4 games through the Vita, I don't see how difficult it could be to have it as a native controller.

Shame.

nyobzoo1092d ago

Kind of misleading title, he pretty much says that it's up to the developers to decide whether they want to allow a Vita controller or not. Like how you can use the vita as a controller for UMVC3 and LBP2 on the PS3

GameCents1092d ago

Like how it's up to developers to allow mods on Xbox One but everybody decided it meant no?

fsfsxii1092d ago

How do these two connect??