How has the mild-mannered Nintendo made so many enemies?
This "Nintendo is doomed" crap is nothing compared to the massive misinformation campaign against the PS3 before, during, and after its launch. As in "nothing", I reckon even until this very day. But like the PS3, Nintendo is going to be fine. Japanese video games will prevail.
"This "Nintendo is doomed" crap is nothing compared to the massive misinformation campaign against the PS3 before, during, and after its launch." I know right, at least with Nintendo it's coming from somewhere...people are scared of the console going up against the PS4 and Nextbox and question third party support for example. Nothing wrong with being a little scared... I just hate the ones who think Nintendo get it worse then Sony, the Sony hate has been no stop this gen. If we get 5 years into the Wii U and it's still happening then it's as bad.
And that is the reason I called you a fanboy in another article, Root. You have a huge persecution complex regarding Sony and only Sony. You really don't believe Nintendo hasn't been getting hate non-stop this gen? Does the Wii not ring any bells, or do you think that system wasn't prone to unfair criticism?
Phil32 the real fanboys are the ones who seek out and call other people fanboys Theres a huge difference from criticism and being a fanboy A fanboy would say "NITENDO SUCK, SONY ARE THE BEST, NO ONE CAN BEAT SONY" Stay on topic man, whats the point of commenting if your not even going to talk about the bloody article. Honestly no wonder theres so many arguments on here with people like you around. If were going by your logic then I could call you a Nintendo fanboy because your sticking up for them /s
If Microsoft camp learned their lesson well, they should know by now that calling all the powers of hell to beat a platform like PS3, and now the Wii U, will only incite rebel yells from highly opinionated people, ie. PS3 supporters, to sympathize with the bashed platform at hand. And look at what happened? M$ PR backfired on them. PS3 fans became more vigilant & supported the platform. The same thing can happen with Wii u fans. Don't piss them off. I know M$ will continue its casual investment with Kinect which puts it pretty much against Nintendo demographic. So the Nintendo bashing will continue.
That is untrue, the doom articles for Nintendo WiiU and the 3DS are right up there with the fabled ps3. There was even a mass amount of negative articles for the Wii that a lot of n4g posters glossed over only because of their own bias for the system.
Someone wasn't here for the old days of n4g... I think there's more criticism than blind hate for Nintendos new console because people already expect certain things of hd consoles thanks to ps3/360.
I dont think most people want N to fail, I believe people are more awre of what they buy. Does not matter what N makes, I will buy it cause I know first party rocks, but that does not prevent me from saying WII-U failed to visualised the future and brought to market 7 year old hardware currently used on PS3 and 360. a lemon taste bitter cause its a lemon, wii-u its last gen cause it was built like one, end of story. With that said, Nintendo will almost certain be my most wanted 1st party games from any console, sony will be my favorite mixed of games due to its capacity to produce multy IPs and MS will most ikely be my online gig cause like it or not its the best so far of the 3. I want big N to suceed, always did, but trth its what it it, multiple developers said it, it is last gen console. I said it, cause I know whats in it, my thoughts for Big N never changes, I love N 1st party and always dissapointed with the hardware, but as a gamer Im delighted they are here.
I would like to see the Wii U fail, but not Nintendo as a company. Why? Because I love Nintendo software but at the same time think that they put out the most awful hardware. Nintendo make great games but terrible consoles, and because of this I would like to see them exit the console business and produce software for other consoles instead, like Sega did after leaving the hardware business. I think that at the end of the day, that would benefit consumers most, because having to fork out so much cash for crappy hardware just to play one or two worthwhile Nintendo games per year really sucks. If Nintendo left the console business and started making games for PlayStation/Xbox consoles, consumers would be better off.
"at the same time think that they put out the most awful hardware." This gen both my 360 and PS3 died. My Wii from 2006 is still alive. Your idea of hardware only comes from a graphics standpoint. I'd rather have hardware that lasts like Nintendo's is historically known to do than something that will die in less than four years.
@Phil32 Oh don't get me wrong, I respect that Nintendo hardware is reliable, but that's about the only good that I can say of it. Dismissing any criticism of their hardware are purely graphics related is shortsighted though, I feel. I mean I do consider their weak hardware to be one issue, but there are also other issues too that are just as important. I mean their handling of online services is a prime example and something that I feel is terrible in pretty much every single way. Another reason I dislike their hardware is all the different controllers required. I mean for the Wii for example there was the Wii remotes and then the nunchucks, then the classic controller if you wanted something more traditional... Now the Wii U has the big touchscreen controller, but other games also use the Wii remotes and then there's the pro controller... I'd much rather see Nintendo making games for other consoles that rely solely on one controller you know? Rather than having to pull all sorts of stuff out depending on what you want to play. Are Nintendo consoles reliable? Yeah, but I really do think that the hardware is horrible in every other way from power, to accessories/controllers, to online play, to the operating system and everything else.
Fanboys and girls want what?
OH' now its Nintendo turn give it a rest will ya. if they was making CRACKERS you'll see "ITS CRUMBLING DOOM" Articles.
stopped by to see gaming news, got fanboy dribble...going back to play sonic racing transformed...
What Miyamoto said....the amount of propaganda, a lot of which was fueled by Microsoft too and their fanbase online and media giants, PS3 was hit hard at the first TWO YEARS of its launch cycle, Vita is going through the same thing and Honestly? I want Nintendo to Fail with strong solidity. 3DS practically FAILED at launch, it got barely any sales until they slashed the 3DS pricetag nearly in Half, the president of Nintendo then took it to himself to slash his pay salary as well for compensation and many other of the higher staff members. 3DS is selling well now and at a profit loss because of that slashcut, it was a double-edged sword. Promising sales #, but at a cost of no profit gain and surely the stockholders weren't pleased in a degree. I honestly, want Wii U to fail, not because of some fanboy-like desire, and not because of an emotional hatred and desire to see them go 'bankrupt' or just 'lose'. I want Nintendo to seriously get into a series of problems that will reinforce them to rethink their strategies, rethink what they've been doing the last 3 generations and to get back to their older selves. I feel Nintendo lost themselves to greed after the Wii, Nintendo was always about their consumers from NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube was also a direction towards the consumer but it was the wrong direction....but it was still an attempt FOR the consumer and their fanbase of stronger hardware for better visuals for the gamers. Wii wasn't about the gamer, it was for innovation which then to me? It got to their heads to milk the casuals, to gain as much profit as possible as they lost their sight on what is important that of which Sony continues to support, Sony loses profits a fuckload but still pumps out awesome games, new IP's, new everything. Nintendo plays it too safe and sticks to their Mario games and Zelda games over and over with barely any risk, yet those risks are apparent even with trivial things used on Wii U and 3DS in their gimmicks and/or 'features' like the Wii U controller which can have both promise and silliness. Sony became arrogant and launched PS3 thinking fans would just bumrush it and buy it at launch....it backfired....Sony literally fucking fixed their ways and went BACK in my honest opinion. Nintendo? Not yet.....they've yet to see the errors in which the fanboys of Nintendo are blind and are incapable of seeing this at majority since they are content with the Mario/Zelda pumpings. So, yes! Nintendo, I hope they fail so they can change back to being the company that was awesome in the good ol' days.
I think, only childish another brand fanboy's want/happy Nintendo to fail. This people say: the graphics its a God! Only the graphics.
nintendo is too kiddy we want blood we want guns sad gaming generation :(
We want 6-7 hours movie. Sorry, "Interactive" games. Sad.
you call people in your above comment "only childish another brand fanboy's" now what we should call you for this comment ?!
Nintendo never to fail. Why? Simple. Many unique and innovative games all time.
Nintendo haters are the worst types of people. Seriously, Nintendo fans are mostly kids, people with families, mellow people, manchildren, etc. Nintendo haters are the kind of people who bully children, pick fights, are angry all the time, hate everything, have no joy in their lives, etc
Don't take it so personally...they hated PS3 and loved 360 for so many years...now they love PS3 again and are wetting themselves for PS4. They dump on MS/Kinect....360 has no recent exclusive games blah, blah Wii U is the 'FISHER PRICE' of video games consoles and will probably get dumped on until its successor (if) comes out. They will probably hate PS4 after 3 months released, then they will love MS again...and yes we all hate elitist PC demi-god gamers and vice versa...being a gamer can sometimes be a vicious circle. ...Have you not noticed that's the trend here on N4G?
I love Nintendo, but the Wii U is just a giant miss step so far. Has nothing to do with being kiddy or not being interested in their work, but the Wii U just feels boring. I feel like the combination of lack of software, high price, and dated technology is just going to bite them in the ass this time. If the tablet was more thought out, or used better technology so it could be used as a tablet and not just a remote or game controller, than it would be worth the $350 price tag. When next Xbox and Playstation hit, Nintendo is going to be in a really awkward spot if they dont cut the price, which they have said they wont be doing anytime soon. I don't think Nintendo will "fail", but this might be like the gamecube generation where they just couldn't keep up with Sony.
When you look at it people want nintendo and sony to fail but never microsoft, and i dont know why microsoft just glorifies shooters, heck they pretty much left their fanbase for the casuals at least when nintendo had the wii they went after the casual and still went after their core base, and sony has new ips and returning series and all are amazing quality, dont really see why people want those 2 to fail.
Sorry, but I really do want a Wii U for my nextgen gaming.. I think it's awesome.
Nintendo are a great entity in gaming. My only issue is that they should provide more new IPs in terms of first party. The Monolithsoft 'X' RPG is a good start, but their reliance on the familiar is sort of off-putting and it's starting to be more apparent. I love 3DS and its games, but Wii U needs new compelling IPs created by Nintendo themselves. Third party will be just the same as it was this generation with the Wii. It will miss out on some of the best in third party because of the hardware differences when PS4 and the next Xbox come out, so it's important from my perspective to make a lot more effort to put out original content, and not rely on companies like Platinum Games (Bayonetta 2). I say all this because I will be getting a Wii U, but I want more from Nintendo themselves than franchises they feel safe in repeating.
Cause there are many,many childish "individuals" in this world, who seem to be enslaved by the videogame-industry. The word "fun" looses meaning, instead childish battles take like this take place.
i agree, i dont see how anyone can defend a freakin logo, a company that truly does not care about them, we all know that the only thing that most companies want is your money, and none of that money is going into these corporate slaves pockets. EDIT: wow disagrees for talking sense fanboys, i got a question for you.... how does it taste.
People search out negativity, and the media knows it. You can't flip on the news without hearing about another shooting, espn covering the dismal Lakers, and in this case anytime a game console is launched; PS3, DS, 3DS, Vita, and now the WiiU. It's sad but true.
Correct. Apparently we have lost all self esteem and we need to tear down others and watch people fall from grace.
Thank you! How can people disagree with this??? Self-denial runs rampant on this site...
Why would someone want Nintendo to fail? I have been criticizing them a lot lately because I don't want them to fail, yet people like to flaunt the word,"troll" at any form of negativity. Those oversensitive/paranoid about these articles are just as annoying...
I dont want them to fail, it would be nice if they got with the modern times and stopped trying to pass lastgens hardware off as next gen just to save money.
It's because Nintendo cannot compete in an arms race with the other two companies. It's as simple as that. Iwata has even said that himself, so that is the reason why Nintendo does a different route. Saving money is an obvious ulterior motive, but it's not the main reason. I don't know if you've noticed this, but Nintendo does not have a movie, TV, or computer division to fall back on like Sony and MS do if their gaming side of the business fails. They have to be smart about their money, and making an incredibly powerful console costs a lot of money, especially if it bombs.