We all know the big dogs at Sony and Microsoft are carefully planning their next generation of consoles and with powerhouse, eye meltingly gorgeous games such as Star Wars 1313 and Watch Dogs being showcased at E3, the next generation is slowly becoming a reality.
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Let's not play semantical games. Wii u is a next generation Nintendo hardware but not a next generation upgraded system. Wii u is a continuation of a generation where it doesn't offer anything new or upgrade to console hardware core gamers have been use to. It's like how ouya is being released but not considered next gen because we've experienced and used similar tech before.
Wii u is a continuation of the first hd gaming era for consoles. It doesn't offer anything that the xbox and ps3 can't do especially the ps3. I've never seen a bunch of fanatics try to clutch onto the idea of something that they like being more than it is like NES fanatics. Some people are Nintendo fans, they accept the truth and what the Wii u is without being liars milling about lying to people about something that isn't. They accept the faults and truly don't care about the truth of the console being weak and inferior to xbox and ps3.
The NES fanatics are a different set who can't accept anything that differs from their deceptive views. They'll shout abuse, vote people down, and all sorts because someone's views are different or someone is actually being realistic about the Wii u or anything Nintendo. These are the sort that'll tell you the Wii is better than a xbox, or uncharted looks like crap, killzone 2 tech was done better in conduit and all sorts of rubbish I've seen fanatics say.
The truth about the Wii u are easy to see from the games and exclusives out. Most ports are worst on the Wii u, and the exclusive titles are akin to cheap games people would buy on xbl and psn. They'll tout about how the Wii u is easy to program for , well ok but why do the games look so bad compared to xbox and ps3.
I can't wait for xbox 720 and ps4. I want improvements in every thing I've been use to on this gens hd system and don't want a continuation of corner cutting or more of a very limited game. Games will still have limits next gen but devs will be able to improve upon a lot with less limit
I want the PS4 and the next Xbox aswell. That doesn't change the fact the next generation started when the Wii U launched. So who sold the most systems THIS gen? The Wii. Making the Wii U (wait for it.....) NEXT GEN. The fact Nintendo CHOSE to not have power be their main concern was their own choice. I personally don't like it, but that doesn't stop it from being their next system released. Making in next gen. 'Whether' people like it or not. :P
@friedgoat
"next gen system playing current gen games. By your logic assassins creed 3 is "next gen" because its on a "next gen system" Stop bullshi**ing yourself."
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Stop bullsh!ting yourself.I'm not going to deny that Nintendo (by their actions) made things super confusing (regarding AC3). But the fact remains.....
These are the console generations (since Nintendo)
- NES and Sega Master System
- SNES and Genesis
- N64 and the PS1
- Gamecube, PS2 and Xbox
- Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360
- Wii U, PS4, Xbox(whatever is going to be called)
And while it may be the Wii's successor, it still falls in the PS3/360 category.
The proof is in the GAMES! It's doing the SAME thing as current gen systems. It has just caught up with PS3/360 after 7 years.
It may be Nintendo's next-gen, but not next-gen in gaming overall. This will become clear when the new consoles arrive and the Wii U starts looking outdated, just like the Wii did.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
A next gen shooter would be like planetside 2. 2000 players 24/7 non stop on 25 sq mile maps.
made by sony sony ps4 will be good to go to play with pc players.
It may be the next generation in the Nintendo line of consoles but it sits side by side with current consoles in a realistic perspective. If it worked like that the Xbox would sit in line with the SNES as it is Microsofts second gen.
This is ludicrous, its like saying the next Iphone is generations ahead because it releases every year with a small advancement (even though it matches up to current phones if even inferior.)
When people refer to next gen they are talking of a leap in technological advancement (something that has happened at the start of EVERY generation so far) and the WiiU simply doesn't have that.
You don't actually expect the next iteration of Sony and Microsoft consoles to be able to pull off that do you? Sony struggled out of the gate and got boned by their 600 dollar price point costing them millions. Microsoft had the RROD fiasco which costed them millions. Neither company will be putting out a console that would cost that much. It would not be smart financially.
And to get power you need to have something expensive.
Generation has nothing to do with tech aspects. You remind me of those 360 fanboys wanting to change the meaning of the word "exclusive" just because it didnt suit their agenda.
The Wii is also much less powerful than the PS3 and 360 but no one will deny that is a console from the 7th generation just like the PS3 and 360. PS2 was also weaker than Xbox and GC and no one will deny that its a console from the 6th generation. The 8th generation started with the Wii U. Even if the Wii U was as powerful as a NES it would still very much be a 8th generation console.
"Gamebase USA technical director Gabriel Liberty says the console is powerful enough to take advantage of all of the Gamebryo engine’s features, although he views the Wii U as “a more powerful Wii”, suggesting the leap in power may not be that great. Gamebryo has powered titles such as Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two, LEGO Universe and El Shaddai."
So for the exact same reason the redesigned Xbox Kinect revision and the new Playstaion+Move revision are not "next gen" because they offer a new interfaces, the Wii isn't a current gen console. It's a last gen console which sold pretty well (not as well as the PS2 though).
The WiiU is a generational leap over the original Wii, which actually makes it a current gen console (with hardware pretty much at the same ballpark of specs of other current gen consoles).
Welcome to the part Nintendo! You're only 7 years late.
If its not a next Gen console then the PSX was not in the same Gen as the N64 because it was not as powerful as the N64.
Power dose not mean next gen. This world is really starting to get power mad.
I remember when PC games ruled the world but then developers starting making there game only for the most up to date computers and people started to switch to consoles because it was costing to much.
Its now the same in the phone market people take about there phone having a better processer in there phone over another but again this is not what makes the Phone good its the software.
Look at Android. It is a updated version of what Wimo was back in the early 00's but has only started to become a stable OS over the last 2 years yet IOS and Windows Phone will run without any issues on a single core phone and is also faster at doing tasks ect.
Its the same with Windows 8 over Windows 7 it runs better on older hardware.
I got my WiiU on Friday and I have to say I am really impressed with it. I was not a big fan of the Wii and I cant remember the last game I picked up for it but it has had some very goods games but over the last few years it has been all about the 360 and PS3 for me.
I got ZombieU, MarioU, Nintendo Land and Sonic AllStar Racing for my WiiU and for me ZombieU is ever Old style Res fans must own game. The graphics are very good. The Horror side to the game is the best ive seen since Res 4 and its a challenging game to.
MarioU its Mario back to his best in a side scrolling screen.
Sonic Allstars is a fun game and reminds me of DK racing on the N64 and will keep me going until Mario Kart is out.
Nintendo Land is the game that suppressed me though it is a very fun game to pay with mates and family and shows off what the WiiU is capable of.
I too cant wait for the Next Xbox and PS4 but I do think both MS and Sony will have a very hard job knocking Nintendo off top sport again this new gen as the WiiU is a very very good console and offering the different ways to play the games will appeal to more people again.
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"Super Mario Galaxy for one had many graphical techniques not done in any game."
That's not true; rim-lighting and reflective surfaces are not new in console games, just new to the Wii. It looked good only because it didn't rely on any realistic graphics lighting techniques which the Wii was bad at creating.
@ Imalwaysright
In terms of this article, the term generation has everything to do with tech aspects - it's talking about the kinds of environments that next-generation hardware can render, in which the Wii U is not included.
LOL.
Peter Jackson's King Kong The Game was released on the 360 as well as previous generation consoles. Where does that game fit, as well as the 360?
40Fps your pc must be crap. Sli gtx670 here and I don't really care I still want a Wiiu
So stop lying to yourself please.. it's pathetic when my Galaxy S 3 literally has more processing power than the Wii U, a quad core processor that runs at just about the same clock speeds.. yet you are saying it's Next Generation? Really c'mon man..
I am not dissing the console really though if you enjoy it's games and prefer that as your gaming system. That is all that matters but for me I am a hardware whore.
I only want what is currently the best. The Wii U still is not that, so it's not for me and I don't honestly enjoy Nintendo games too much anymore either which doesn't help.
If i knew for a fact the Wii U was more powerful than the PS3 or 360 or had far superior game play, processing power and graphics I would be all over it.. but I am old and bitter, I don't feel like wasting my money just for a little bit of fun when I know for sure I will end up wanting something else later.
Which for me will probably be the PS4, as to me the PS3 has still put out the most advanced games to date. Being the old hardware whore I am now, that is right up my alley.
I wouldn't say it's next generation but it definitely tells me next generation games are going to look bad ass, if not even that much more bad ass I don't mind really, graphics don't make a game but the added processing power and GPU power will definitely add an entirely new realism to console gaming at least.
I mean even though I won't probably get a 720 or bother with Microsoft this time around, I still know when it comes to not screwing around with their consoles hardware wise... (Not including Xbox's horrible red light and poor heat sink design for the first couple years but they fixed it.) Sony and Microsoft really push their hardware to the limits.
So I am excited to see but also at the same time worried, people have been losing so much money due to this ignorance over smart phones and tablet gaming, pathetic excuse for gaming if you ask me but that is another subject. Regardless it is taking a toll on everyone even Nintendo.
So hopefully it doesn't limit these newer consoles at all.
If anything is happening with current gen tech which makes it look like next gen, its that some devs are finally starting to understand and utilize the hardware. Some devs.
I don't think it matters how disabled a system is, as long as it still arrives at or around the same timeframe it is still the same generation.
I find it amusing that graphics matter so much to people now, but if you mention PC and how much better the graphics are than 360/ps3 you are an 'Elitist'
Now Wii U is out 360/ps3 owners are saying pretty much the same!
1600p
16x aa
dx11
ps4/nextbox will NEVER come close
i <3 u pc!
Now go back in your cave and hope for Red Dead and GTA
Now go play some COD or some corridor shooter.
Some games you are right but when frame rates take a hit the gameplay can suffer
Doesn't metter if a monkey is wearing a suit, he still be a monkey. Simple but hard to understand for some.
@Stroke vvv - Wii U is about as powerful as the current gen systems, maybe a tad more powerful. Maybe. You really think the next Sony and MS systems won't be noticeably more powerful than Wii U? You're delusional, sir.
Now be sure to remind us again tomorrow, less we forget.
The thing is, if you want an idea of what the next gen will look right now like you have to reference from a high end PC.
5794x1080p
16x AA
DX11
no restrictions on what hardware or peripherals i use including custom made.
next step for PC Oculus Rift
It's a sad reality I have come to face years ago when EB games stopped taking PC games for trade in's. That was the day I knew PC development just was coming to a halt. Sadly it has, sure we still get some good games but remember when the only good games were on PC?
Exactly, times have changed and sadly chances are the 720 and PS4 could actually have Supervision (4K) which is way higher than any definition of HD available.
So I wouldn't hold your breath on PC anymore. It's somewhat dying off just like consoles and handhelds are, I mean they will always be around but their time is passing.
Before all we had were killer PC games and when you talked about that epic bad ass game it was always, I mean always was on PC, but that changed and consoles became more like PC's then everyone focused more on consoles. Now the same is happening with consoles, with smart phones and tablets because that is all anyone is focusing on now..
I mean look at Windows 8 for god sakes, a fucking smart phone and tablet OS. That shit makes my stomach turn every day I see computers turning into crappy tablets.
Thing is Supervision or 4k what most call it in the US blows HD, any HD definition out of the water by like 10x.
So honestly who knows what new consoles could sport, Supervision TV's right now are very expensive but by the time these new consoles are released they could be much cheaper and it will be the whole HD craze all over again.
Trust me I even laugh at HD really, Hell I have this NEC CRT Monitor that is literally like 12 years old now.. thing was around way before HD TV's and it's resolution still goes far beyond 1080p which is most HD's standard.
So HD even now is still somewhat of a joke to me, it more like a marketing term used to lure idiots into buying something that really isn't even new.
Supervision is no joke though it's the most advanced by far even any monitors I could buy can't go that high as far as resolution is concerned unless they are Supervision monitors which I haven't really looked into, I am sure they exist but regardless Supervision will become the new high resolution standard for everyone and it's not just a marketing term either this time around it's actually just as the name sounds.. Super Vision.. I wouldn't be surprised if it's higher resolution than our eyes can even comprehend if that makes any sense..
Just like most people don't realize our eyes can only really comprehend 60Hz frequency, even though a lot of TV's and Monitors now days go way above that. Technically your eyes will only notice the smoothness created by high frequency refresh rates, other than that it actually can't even see at refresh rates that high on it's own.. which the human eyeball maxes out at 60Hz.
So anything higher is actually split between your eyes if that makes any sense you aren't actually getting the full refresh rates in both eyes and if it goes higher than 120hz, its practically beyond noticeable at all with the human eyes then..
360 is more powerful to.
Sure power isn't everything, But It is one of many Variables. My Wii is just sitting there collecting dust as usual so I'm Reluctant on buying a WiiU.
also ive owned every console on market since nes and im telling you wii u can do thing xbox 360 and ps3 could only dream of. i also own a vita and it cannot do what wii u is doing.the screen shots of zombiu dont do it justice, yes character models are average but the lighting effect are like nothing ive seen on a console, alot of people on miiverse has said this who are multiplat gamers not nintendo fanboys. whenever a new console comes out they get ports of last gen. new games take time. im not saying wii u is super powerful but it is by no means last gen.
this is the start of the 8th generation of game consoles and cant wait to see what microsoft and sony bring to the market.
If the WiiU ends up getting sales of about 100 million though then it's the mainstream buying one yet again as the latest toy. They pay little or no attention to tech specs or even if rival consoles might have artsier games.
Maybe that's the point, When done right games on the PS3 are fantastic.
EDIT: Features, Blu-Ray, PS Vita connectivity. So as I've stated in another article the PS3 can do stuff the WiiU cannot to. I just hate when people say "The Wii U can do everything the 360 and PS3 can and then some" I'm here to remind you "No it can't".
I agree again, I want gamers to be more how they were last generation(PS2,Xbox,gamecube) which was less focused on graphics and more on gameplay. Flashing lights is great,but if it is not fun or challenging than what is the point. I believe we are playing the next gen already and in terms of the "true" next gen. I just look forward for developers to be able to do more in terms of AI, framerate,gameplay elements pretty much everything other than graphics. I want to see unique art styles and not everyone dying for realism. Developers will have no excuses for limits at least for a long long time. This generation made them squeeze more out of it than graphics.
I will get the next Xbox, maybe once it goes down in price. I can see it being a good £500 at launch.
HA, yeah right. A glorified corridor cover shooter.
Here are videos of how next-gen graphics might be:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
I say "might" cause im not even sure the ps4/xbox3 might even be this powerful. So yea Last of Us and Beyond Two Souls ain't anything to brag about.
So do Wii U graphics look so outdated after watching that?
""The Wii U is a next-gen system weather people like it or not. Generations are determined by console cycles, not power."
dont waste your breath on these retards.
I guess they could be next gen titles, but they will be on PC + Next gen consoles.
PC is always on the cutting edge if you can afford it.
M$ strategy (if rumors are to be believed) is straight out of the funny farm. Xbox TV for the casual players/Xbox app users and a pricey as f*&k console for the "core" user (which I'm sure will still have an OS that is 98% Ad space)
and SONY will play the waiting game to see what it can copy and try and do best from both Nintendo and M$ added with their cloud based solution.
Hell man, even senior staff at EPIC is getting off this crazy ass ride.
Cant tell their @ss from their elbows.