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Are We Already Playing The Next Gen?

We all know the big dogs at Sony and Microsoft are carefully planning their next generation of consoles and with powerhouse, eye meltingly gorgeous games such as Star Wars 1313 and Watch Dogs being showcased at E3, the next generation is slowly becoming a reality.

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1upgamer991328d ago

I am excited for the new Metroid, and Zelda game engines. Nintendo says that they have never done anything so graphically ambitious. Zelda is supposed to be the biggest Zelda world ever. With the new tech in Wii U I am looking forward to seeing what 1st party games look like. Wii U may not be a PS4, but it does have new tech that according to Ubisoft has not been fully utilized yet. PS4 I can only imagine, but I am not going to pay $499 for a basic console at launch, like it was last time. I have only had PS3 for 3years.

FriedGoat1328d ago (Edited 1328d ago )

"Nintendo says that they have never done anything so graphically ambitious" of course they haven't, they haven't even done anything as graphically ambitious as the X360 or PS3 yet and the WiiU has already launched. Great start to the "next gen" *cough*

Hatsune-Miku1328d ago (Edited 1328d ago )

"The Wii U is a next-gen system weather people like it or not. Generations are determined by console cycles, not power."

Let's not play semantical games. Wii u is a next generation Nintendo hardware but not a next generation upgraded system. Wii u is a continuation of a generation where it doesn't offer anything new or upgrade to console hardware core gamers have been use to. It's like how ouya is being released but not considered next gen because we've experienced and used similar tech before.

Wii u is a continuation of the first hd gaming era for consoles. It doesn't offer anything that the xbox and ps3 can't do especially the ps3. I've never seen a bunch of fanatics try to clutch onto the idea of something that they like being more than it is like NES fanatics. Some people are Nintendo fans, they accept the truth and what the Wii u is without being liars milling about lying to people about something that isn't. They accept the faults and truly don't care about the truth of the console being weak and inferior to xbox and ps3.

The NES fanatics are a different set who can't accept anything that differs from their deceptive views. They'll shout abuse, vote people down, and all sorts because someone's views are different or someone is actually being realistic about the Wii u or anything Nintendo. These are the sort that'll tell you the Wii is better than a xbox, or uncharted looks like crap, killzone 2 tech was done better in conduit and all sorts of rubbish I've seen fanatics say.

The truth about the Wii u are easy to see from the games and exclusives out. Most ports are worst on the Wii u, and the exclusive titles are akin to cheap games people would buy on xbl and psn. They'll tout about how the Wii u is easy to program for , well ok but why do the games look so bad compared to xbox and ps3.

I can't wait for xbox 720 and ps4. I want improvements in every thing I've been use to on this gens hd system and don't want a continuation of corner cutting or more of a very limited game. Games will still have limits next gen but devs will be able to improve upon a lot with less limit

Ihaa1328d ago

Thats not exactly true. Super Mario Galaxy for one had many graphical techniques not done in any game. Its a super optimized game and looks really good especially for a underpowered console. If you take previous games from nintendo, they have done many things in regards to water simulation (mario sunshine), artistic depth of field (zelda skyward sword), perfect slicing like in metal gear rising (skyward sword), lots of relfections (galaxy), rim lighting (galaxy), etc. All in all, even if one game made by nintendo didn't have a ridiculously large amount of graphical features, putting the experience behind all of these games, the developers have worked with just as much graphics techniques as developers on PS3 and 360. Besides, games like skyrim don't have any big lighting or model detail effects, simply large draw distances and that was also done by nintendo for xenoblade.

MariaHelFutura1328d ago (Edited 1328d ago )

I want the PS4 and the next Xbox aswell. That doesn't change the fact the next generation started when the Wii U launched. So who sold the most systems THIS gen? The Wii. Making the Wii U (wait for it.....) NEXT GEN. The fact Nintendo CHOSE to not have power be their main concern was their own choice. I personally don't like it, but that doesn't stop it from being their next system released. Making in next gen. 'Whether' people like it or not. :P

@friedgoat

"next gen system playing current gen games. By your logic assassins creed 3 is "next gen" because its on a "next gen system" Stop bullshi**ing yourself."

#1.2.3

Stop bullsh!ting yourself.I'm not going to deny that Nintendo (by their actions) made things super confusing (regarding AC3). But the fact remains.....

These are the console generations (since Nintendo)

- NES and Sega Master System
- SNES and Genesis
- N64 and the PS1
- Gamecube, PS2 and Xbox
- Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360
- Wii U, PS4, Xbox(whatever is going to be called)

MaxXAttaxX1328d ago (Edited 1328d ago )

And while it may be the Wii's successor, it still falls in the PS3/360 category.

The proof is in the GAMES! It's doing the SAME thing as current gen systems. It has just caught up with PS3/360 after 7 years.

It may be Nintendo's next-gen, but not next-gen in gaming overall. This will become clear when the new consoles arrive and the Wii U starts looking outdated, just like the Wii did.

Picnic1328d ago (Edited 1328d ago )

I think that Super Mario Galaxy may be their 'Get out of jail free' card.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney1328d ago (Edited 1328d ago )

Will WiiU games look like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

A next gen shooter would be like planetside 2. 2000 players 24/7 non stop on 25 sq mile maps.

made by sony sony ps4 will be good to go to play with pc players.

FriedGoat1328d ago (Edited 1328d ago )

maria your generation explanation is ridiculous. there are many more not included in this "list" which you would not be able to place because it just doesnt work like that.
It may be the next generation in the Nintendo line of consoles but it sits side by side with current consoles in a realistic perspective. If it worked like that the Xbox would sit in line with the SNES as it is Microsofts second gen.

This is ludicrous, its like saying the next Iphone is generations ahead because it releases every year with a small advancement (even though it matches up to current phones if even inferior.)
When people refer to next gen they are talking of a leap in technological advancement (something that has happened at the start of EVERY generation so far) and the WiiU simply doesn't have that.

ZombieNinjaPanda1328d ago

@Shutupandtakemymoney

You don't actually expect the next iteration of Sony and Microsoft consoles to be able to pull off that do you? Sony struggled out of the gate and got boned by their 600 dollar price point costing them millions. Microsoft had the RROD fiasco which costed them millions. Neither company will be putting out a console that would cost that much. It would not be smart financially.

And to get power you need to have something expensive.

BattleAxe1328d ago

When The Last of Us and Beyond: Two souls comes out, then PS3 owners will be playing "next gen".

Imalwaysright1328d ago (Edited 1328d ago )

@ Friedgoat

Generation has nothing to do with tech aspects. You remind me of those 360 fanboys wanting to change the meaning of the word "exclusive" just because it didnt suit their agenda.

The Wii is also much less powerful than the PS3 and 360 but no one will deny that is a console from the 7th generation just like the PS3 and 360. PS2 was also weaker than Xbox and GC and no one will deny that its a console from the 6th generation. The 8th generation started with the Wii U. Even if the Wii U was as powerful as a NES it would still very much be a 8th generation console.

dantesparda1328d ago

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"Gamebase USA technical director Gabriel Liberty says the console is powerful enough to take advantage of all of the Gamebryo engine’s features, although he views the Wii U as “a more powerful Wii”, suggesting the leap in power may not be that great. Gamebryo has powered titles such as Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two, LEGO Universe and El Shaddai."

humbleopinion1328d ago (Edited 1328d ago )

The Wii is pretty much a last gen console because it shares the exact same architecture with the GameCube (two GCs ductaped together anyone?) and only offers a new interface.

So for the exact same reason the redesigned Xbox Kinect revision and the new Playstaion+Move revision are not "next gen" because they offer a new interfaces, the Wii isn't a current gen console. It's a last gen console which sold pretty well (not as well as the PS2 though).

The WiiU is a generational leap over the original Wii, which actually makes it a current gen console (with hardware pretty much at the same ballpark of specs of other current gen consoles).
Welcome to the part Nintendo! You're only 7 years late.

mcstorm1328d ago

Wow when will people realise that the WiiU is a next gen console.

If its not a next Gen console then the PSX was not in the same Gen as the N64 because it was not as powerful as the N64.

Power dose not mean next gen. This world is really starting to get power mad.

I remember when PC games ruled the world but then developers starting making there game only for the most up to date computers and people started to switch to consoles because it was costing to much.

Its now the same in the phone market people take about there phone having a better processer in there phone over another but again this is not what makes the Phone good its the software.

Look at Android. It is a updated version of what Wimo was back in the early 00's but has only started to become a stable OS over the last 2 years yet IOS and Windows Phone will run without any issues on a single core phone and is also faster at doing tasks ect.

Its the same with Windows 8 over Windows 7 it runs better on older hardware.

I got my WiiU on Friday and I have to say I am really impressed with it. I was not a big fan of the Wii and I cant remember the last game I picked up for it but it has had some very goods games but over the last few years it has been all about the 360 and PS3 for me.

I got ZombieU, MarioU, Nintendo Land and Sonic AllStar Racing for my WiiU and for me ZombieU is ever Old style Res fans must own game. The graphics are very good. The Horror side to the game is the best ive seen since Res 4 and its a challenging game to.

MarioU its Mario back to his best in a side scrolling screen.

Sonic Allstars is a fun game and reminds me of DK racing on the N64 and will keep me going until Mario Kart is out.

Nintendo Land is the game that suppressed me though it is a very fun game to pay with mates and family and shows off what the WiiU is capable of.

I too cant wait for the Next Xbox and PS4 but I do think both MS and Sony will have a very hard job knocking Nintendo off top sport again this new gen as the WiiU is a very very good console and offering the different ways to play the games will appeal to more people again.

akaakaaka1327d ago

@friedgoat I recommend you this..

SIdepocket1327d ago

@ Ihaa

"Super Mario Galaxy for one had many graphical techniques not done in any game."

That's not true; rim-lighting and reflective surfaces are not new in console games, just new to the Wii. It looked good only because it didn't rely on any realistic graphics lighting techniques which the Wii was bad at creating.

@ Imalwaysright

In terms of this article, the term generation has everything to do with tech aspects - it's talking about the kinds of environments that next-generation hardware can render, in which the Wii U is not included.

1upgamer991327d ago

No what they meant was the amount of detail that is going into the "worlds" Disagree if you want, but Metroid on Wii was very nice and at the time it came out it looked every bit as good as a 360 game. The 360 was newer at the time, and just like with Wii U the developers had not optimized there programming for it. With more power than PS3 I can only imagine what Nintendo's first party games are going to look like. The new game engines are built by Retro. I am pretty sure they are going to fully utilize the Wii U. The launch games are just that launch games. Wii U is still doing what it took developers 6 years to do on these systems. Developers of Assassins Creed 3 said that 4 years ago they never thought such a game would be possible on current gen consoles, but they learned programing "tricks" to make the games work the way they would like.

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MariaHelFutura1328d ago

The Wii U is a next-gen system weather people like it or not. Generations are determined by console cycles, not power.

ItsMeAgain1328d ago

I don't like the current weather =[

FriedGoat1328d ago

next gen system playing current gen games. By your logic assassins creed 3 is "next gen" because its on a "next gen system" Stop bullshi**ing yourself.

PopRocks3591328d ago

@FriedGoat

Peter Jackson's King Kong The Game was released on the 360 as well as previous generation consoles. Where does that game fit, as well as the 360?

MysticStrummer1328d ago

Next gen Nintendo system, not next gen gaming. A lot of games this gen weren't "next gen" compared to PS2 and XBox. Wii U is current gen gaming until it shows something to prove otherwise. I personally don't think it ever will but I could of course be wrong.

Imalwaysright1328d ago (Edited 1328d ago )

I played AC3 on ultra 40 FPS and i guarantee you that my PC is more powerful than the PS4 and nextbox will ever be. Does that make AC3 next gen? Neither software or hardware define a generation. Like Maria said "generations are determined by console cycles"

t3rrorc3ll1328d ago

^ This guy lol

40Fps your pc must be crap. Sli gtx670 here and I don't really care I still want a Wiiu

bloodybutcher1327d ago

i don't care about wether, whether in this weather or not:P

profgerbik1327d ago (Edited 1327d ago )

Hardware wise there is nothing Next Generation about it.

So stop lying to yourself please.. it's pathetic when my Galaxy S 3 literally has more processing power than the Wii U, a quad core processor that runs at just about the same clock speeds.. yet you are saying it's Next Generation? Really c'mon man..

I am not dissing the console really though if you enjoy it's games and prefer that as your gaming system. That is all that matters but for me I am a hardware whore.

I only want what is currently the best. The Wii U still is not that, so it's not for me and I don't honestly enjoy Nintendo games too much anymore either which doesn't help.

If i knew for a fact the Wii U was more powerful than the PS3 or 360 or had far superior game play, processing power and graphics I would be all over it.. but I am old and bitter, I don't feel like wasting my money just for a little bit of fun when I know for sure I will end up wanting something else later.

Which for me will probably be the PS4, as to me the PS3 has still put out the most advanced games to date. Being the old hardware whore I am now, that is right up my alley.

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sak5001328d ago

Wii u is infact a next gen console but with current gen tech. Made by kiddies, for the kiddies...

mysterym1327d ago

Make zelda better not bigger. I found the last two too big anyhow!

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Cam9771328d ago

The Last Of Us, FC3, GRAND THEFT AUTO: V and Beyond all give us an insight into the next generation.

WeskerChildReborned1328d ago

If those games can run on this gen, i wonder what games in next gen will look like. Hopefully they look good.

millzy1021328d ago

when this gen kicks of properly, i.e. when all systems are released last of us graphics are going to be the norm. some people think were going to get super computers with ultra realistic graphics but a high end gaming pc cant do this so its not going to happen. no console ever has highend pc components its too expensive and smart people would just fork out the extra cash for a gaming rig thats upgradable. console gaming is ment to be a reletivly cheap and easy way to game for those who cant afford or dont know how to make a gaming pc.

profgerbik1327d ago (Edited 1327d ago )

GTA V is going to be sick it used the new engine they used in Max Payne 3.

I wouldn't say it's next generation but it definitely tells me next generation games are going to look bad ass, if not even that much more bad ass I don't mind really, graphics don't make a game but the added processing power and GPU power will definitely add an entirely new realism to console gaming at least.

I mean even though I won't probably get a 720 or bother with Microsoft this time around, I still know when it comes to not screwing around with their consoles hardware wise... (Not including Xbox's horrible red light and poor heat sink design for the first couple years but they fixed it.) Sony and Microsoft really push their hardware to the limits.

So I am excited to see but also at the same time worried, people have been losing so much money due to this ignorance over smart phones and tablet gaming, pathetic excuse for gaming if you ask me but that is another subject. Regardless it is taking a toll on everyone even Nintendo.

So hopefully it doesn't limit these newer consoles at all.

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Godmars2901328d ago (Edited 1328d ago )

Sorry, but there needs to be a repeal of the opinion that everyone's opinion matters base on this alone. Nevermind all the BS that goes on in politics. Creationism vs Evolution.

If anything is happening with current gen tech which makes it look like next gen, its that some devs are finally starting to understand and utilize the hardware. Some devs.

BitbyDeath1328d ago (Edited 1328d ago )

If the Paraolympics is still olympics then Wii U is still nextgen. (Or make that current gen now)

I don't think it matters how disabled a system is, as long as it still arrives at or around the same timeframe it is still the same generation.

Uzesgelen_Goo1327d ago

ooooooh thats cruel comment :D

bumnut1327d ago

It was cruel, but he does have a point.