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Submitted by danswayuk 320d ago | opinion piece

Are Square-Enix tricking us with Final Fantasy 7 PC?

Product-Reviews writes: We have noticed something of interest from a series of screenshots. These screenshots show HD scenes from the game, but you may spot that some of the images used are not even featured in the game as a cutscene. For example, we see Barret and his daughter in the flower church – we don’t remember that being in the game? We also see a lovely picture of Cid sitting on top of the Tiny Bronco overlooking Rocket Town, but that screenshot implies that the game has been given a HD upscale? Are Square-Enix just misleading us to think that the game has been improved graphically, when actually the game has been completely untouched from the original? (Final Fantasy VII, PC, Square Enix)

Ranma1  +   320d ago | Well said
Yes they are, by the way its Square Anus, not Square Enix.

Those guys have really forgotten where they come from and who made them what they are
danswayuk  +   320d ago
Well said, looks strange to me.
dazreah  +   320d ago
Sorry but who made them what they where??
3GenGames  +   319d ago
Square Soft and Enix of the 8/16bit era made themselves by producing great games like Chrono Trigger, FF III, Illusion of Gaia, EVO, Terranigma, Star Ocean, Secret of Mana, and Breath of Fire (to name a couple decent games). Then they combined forces after they both forgot you have to have a great story in conjunction with great controls and great game play to make a great game. Now they just make generic RPG's and are saving a remake of a game called Final Fantasy VII for when they want to save themselves from bankruptcy and try to say they can make a good game compared to what they used to make separately.
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Odoylerules000  +   320d ago
I have no idea who made them who they are. I'm guessing they're who made them who they are. I don't recall doing any game design or programming for them, do you? Does the fact that I've bought most of their games before the current generation entitle me to saying I made them who they are? NOPE. They made a good product, I bought it. Good for us both. Although you could argue that since the merger of Square/Enix that they've gone downhill.
360ICE  +   320d ago
Oh, stop being so relentlessly politically correct. I mean, run for senator much?
yojimbo_slice  +   320d ago
Square Enix has never made a good game, ever. The only games they put out worth playing are old Square games.

SE is the bane of RPGs, where Square reigned king.
We should get an angry mob together and burn down Wada's house.
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AIndoria  +   319d ago
@Slice : Tactics Ogre *Cough* the World Ends with you *cough*
360ICE  +   319d ago
@On Square not making a good game ever.

I know FFXII hasn't catched on, but it is a good game. Arguably FFXIII is too. But then again, these are continunations of an old series started by Squaresoft, so sure.

Same with KH2
yojimbo_slice  +   318d ago
@Alndoria : *cough* Tactics Ogre was *cough* remake *cough*

That leaves EniX with ONE, count it, ONE GOOD ORIGINAL GAME SINCE 2003.

@360ICE : XII was alright, but it used the universe that Square created with tactics. Again they have to leech from Square. A far to common practice with Enix.

It's not like I'm hating Enix to be a dick, I want them to do well, truly. I grew up playing Square games. The Final Fantasy series practically made me the gamer I am today, but the fact of the matter is that Enix has lost touch with some of their original fanbase.

Every SE game I've played besides XII and WEWY has been nothing but pretty graphics and no substance. I waited for years for XIII and they shat all over my face with this emotional anime bullshit story about crystal monsters and old summons. Then they decide to make another one? And I hear rumors of a third? Not to mention the catastrophe that was XIV.

Square Enix makes games like a piece of shit covered in gold dust. Yeah it's pretty, but everything else about it fucking stinks. I truly hope for a return to form soon.
iamtehpwn  +   320d ago
Anyone who thinks these screenshots are a trick is an idiot. These were the original promotional images for Final Fantasy VII.
Vynzent  +   320d ago
Yeah, well, we live in a world of idiots. You're right, these screens are old, I see them when I put my FF7 cd's in my playstation.

How are they a trick, exactly?
Run_bare  +   319d ago
Yes, they are old, I really wish they investigate more before they write an article. But my guess is the writer are a young kid who don't know better. Is not saying that I am an old dinosaur that play FF7 during graduation of High School.
Blastoise  +   320d ago
I think he's trying to say that its the old FF fans that supported them, and now its them that's getting screwed over with terrible mainstream money grabbing games like FF 13. Right?
ChronoJoe  +   320d ago
It's just a repackaging, the old version on PC was very buggy. Also it should be able to output higher resolutions now, you shouldn't really expect more than that. Of course they aren't going to modify the game from a 10 year old build without remaking it, and if they were it'd be on console, not on PC.
Mounce  +   320d ago
Who made them and what they are?

Well, obviously, since Hironobu Sakaguchi is at his own studio and all, xD
colonel179  +   319d ago
Wasn't there an interview now so long ago with SE saying that they will be focusing on releasing NEW games instead of OLD games? Man, those guys are smoking something really powerful, because since 2006, they have made no sense at all!
Blasphemy  +   319d ago
The developers who made them are no longer with the company.
ricky360  +   320d ago
Not the first time I've seen screenshots mislead the gamer.
tr00p3r  +   320d ago
Where it all go wrong for my once favorite game developer..?
gaffyh  +   320d ago
When they merged with Enix.
Godmars290  +   320d ago
I'm not saying FF5-9 were bad, FF5-6 were certainly just as good as FF4, just that from then on Square started putting more of an emphasis on the big dramatic scene and character melodrama. That were Cecil, Locke and Terra were well defined and balanced as protagonist, Cloud, Squall Yuna and Tidus were either presented as being too emotional or not emotional enough. And then there's the detail of going from multiple vehicles and mini-games, to just card games then nothing at all.
Godmars290  +   320d ago
It happened before the merger gaffyh. Ever since FF2 they've been trying to introduce a grandiose cinematic air within the series game elements, pretty much got it right with FF4, but then went the other way.
thesummerofgeorge  +   320d ago
I disagree, I think X is where they went wrong. God awful voice acting and character animations, and far too linear for my taste. I just don't think the technology and voice acting were up to snuff to effectively deliver the Final Fantasy experience.
wishingW3L  +   320d ago
To me FFX was one of the best but I understand what you mean. The linearity and other stuff was the turning point of the series... After that it was all downhill. And not to mention it was the first game in the series to have a direct sequel and it was godawful even if the battle system was great.
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Arnagrim  +   320d ago
All of these images were in the game when it was released on PC back in the day. They showed up in the shell menus when installing the game.
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Gigawatt25  +   320d ago
Lol at the bad grammar in the title!
brettski  +   320d ago
I see it more on N4G than anywhere else. Businesses like Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft are singular nouns and should we should use IS instead of ARE.
MoveTheGlow  +   320d ago
They always sell their FF-series games with cutscenes and CG interludes, that's nothing new by any stretch!

On the other hand, the articles that have popped up calling this a "remake" are awful, only using that line to grab some hits.

I hope it's an attempt to cheaply reach as many people as possible and get them aware of what FF7 was... in anticipation of something big...
Tapewurm  +   320d ago
Just wondering if this is a precursor to a PS3/360 release?? I own the original and have the ps1 classic download, but would buy an HD version of the original game as well. Would still love to see them remake the game, but use the character models from the original more detailed cutscenes of the game...not the Advent Children character models.
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GaryOak  +   320d ago
These pictures he's talking about were used during the disc change bits on FF7.They are not trying to trick anyone.

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wanderson75  +   320d ago
Agreed. Many of those screens actually were used as artwork in the original manual, press releases, and even as art displayed on the change CD screens. There's no indication that the game may have received an HD makeover.
Vynzent  +   320d ago
Precisely, but you know morons all over the planet will still rally up and complain that they fail to see new graphics.
Tapewurm  +   320d ago
I would hope that at the very least they increased the graphic resolutions to the max of current gen cards and displays and also polished any graphical & control issues from the first PC release.
maelstromb  +   320d ago
There's nothing strange about it, except when they say, "Now, experience this mythical story of conflict, betrayal, and triumph, like never before!" ... considering that they've changed nothing about the actual game itself AND Square already released the game for PC back in 1998 via publisher, Eidos, w/ three different box types over time (white tri-box, white big box, and blue platinum series box, followed by subsequent digipaks/jewel case releases). Also, anybody who has played the original will know that everything shown in that trailer was taken almost entirely from the CG cutscenes, and that those still "HD" shots were also in the original game as well. Nothing new here.

Now yes, it could very well be that SE IS actually trying to pull one over on some people that never got the chance to play the game back in the day, but what I really don't quite understand is that SE almost makes it sound as if this is the FIRST time FFVII is coming to the PC platform - which simply is not true.
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Menchi  +   320d ago
Oh dear, people will do anything for hits and to find reasons to hate on SE.

Those images aren't in-game, correct. They're used only in DISC CHANGE scenes for the original PS1 release and within promotional materials. They aren't used in game, and has never been implied as such.

Really people, SE aren't the devil incarnate. Just use your heads.
guitar_nerd_23  +   320d ago
Oh you beat me, what you said.
TenkoTAiLS  +   320d ago
Yup, promotional material, change disc artwork for both the PS1 and PC release and some were even used during the install for the PC version. I especially like the one with Vincent on the roof with all the lightning and storm going on in the background. Very cool.
guitar_nerd_23  +   320d ago
Pretty sure those 'new' screenshots are the change disc screens.
Venox2008  +   320d ago
please tell me, if the game is the same with same graphics, why the hell system requirements are higher?
sidar  +   320d ago
Because of systems like Steam and what not. It's not the game itself.
Nac  +   320d ago
Tricking? Or Trolling...
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   320d ago
lol
TemplarDante  +   320d ago
SE. We see through your lies !
sidar  +   320d ago
Soo they are reselling the PC version with achievements?...ok...
SuMtOnE  +   320d ago
tricking? NO their just F * C K I N with us
Borman  +   320d ago
No, these were all press release shots back when the game was initially created. Yes, they were higher resolution than the game itself. Nothing new.
stuntman_mike  +   320d ago
why didnt they just release it on GOG.com?
josephayal  +   319d ago
PC
and next XBOX 360
stragomccloud  +   319d ago
Not the first time I've seen this image. This image plus others like it were used to promote the game during it's original release.
Roper316  +   319d ago
it is the original sd version of the games but SE is just hoping the modders update the graphics for them so they won't have to do it or hear about it anymore. That is why I think they are rereleasing the PC version so the modders can get to work. This way they can focus on the garbage westernized POS's they have been putting out.
Xerolt  +   319d ago
This post is so fail. Have none of you seen these screenshots before? If you play the original FFVII on PC (Like, the VERY first PC version), these screenshots came along. I still have these somewhere in my old HDD. These scenes never happened in the game. For example, Aeris never got to see the Airship, as shown in one of the screenshots (In fact, they are NOT screenshots).

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