Between MS and sony, if one were to show off new hardware it would be sony. They always show things off way early. E3 2005 MS showed off the 360 and launched the same year. Sony showed off the PS3 at e3 2005 (although most of what they showed was fake), then launched 2006.
@GamingPerson More "hardcore" games? Lets forget about the "hardcore" term.
As for the PS3, Sony will bring more exclusive games as well as better games than MS + PSVita games, while MS will bring multiplatform games like COD (as always) Halo, Kineckt and MAYBE a new game.
Sony will probably have a much better show.
It's between Sony and Nintendo but I don't think we can say Nintendo is already the winner just because they have a new console, we need to wait and see what seems to be an epic battle this year.
@GamingPerson Well, since Sony produces games for the PS3 and Vita, it's pretty obvious that they will show more games than MS, who produce games for just one system.
I could see a slight possibility in Sony releasing an 'official' PS3 Slim @ a $199 price-point. That would be a phenomenal announcement that would really spike sales for their upcoming year.
The draw-back with that idea is that Sony not only would market a 'new' PS3 hardware... but within one year, it would have to market an even 'newer' piece of hardware, the PS4. They would have to consider how confused that could make the public; marketing would prove to be difficult.
Overall, I feel [like many others] that Sony is the only one who will give Ninty a run for its money for E3 publicity.
Between the following... Sony has a lot of potential for a superb conference.
- PS Vita games +++ - PS3 exclusives ++ - Move games ++ (especially since they are reaching the end of this gen cycle. They need to focus on low price point and appealing to the masses) - PS Plus +
The '+' signifies what I feel they would concentrate the most time to.
I havent seen the e3 in 2005but the demos ive seen didnt comee close to uc and a hand full of other games.If you cant provide a demo displaying those animations physics and particle effects from e3 2005 then your point is null.You said " they " as if it was alot of games.For some reason I believe your talking about a tech video which was 1 video.Even that video showed things I see in video games today
Killzone 2 looked really great and I was more than happy with it (still consider it my most favorite shooter), but better? Seriously? That trailer had absolute amazing particle effects, a higher polycount and draw-distance and an even more advanced lighting system complete with flawless shadows. If Killzone 2 had looked like that trailer, or Motorstorm for that matter, we would not be in need of a PS4 graphics wise.
Still defending sony from 2005. I do agree with you as those were some pretty realistic Giant Enemy crabs. And the damage you could do to them was amazing. Sony is so great. @ suicidekings I for one if I didn't have windex would have a ps3 that would be invisible from the dust that collects on it. I still have one of the fat ones but it still sucks ballz in my opinion. Go 360.
@ JAZZ maybe so but still, the ps3 is a piece of hardware(machine) and its going to collect dust just like what my 360 is doing. Go 360(ass).both machine are great in my opinion because ive been able to enjoy great games from both systemand yeah they lied but well 4 years after and men uncharted 2 came and everything was great(bc is excluded from the system because its costed too much to make and besides i had some game for xbox that i couldnt play on the 360 and MS was getting rid of some games that you could play on 360 but then when they came out on the xbox ARCADE you couldnt play them anymore(metal slug 3))
LOL@jazz one of the most beautifull delusional fanboy in full denial..
better hardware, better and more games (and variety, better graphics, free online, etc ebill gates( employeetc get over it, and buy one if you are a gamer more than bill gates's employee.
I get how some peeps prefer one system over another for whatever pros and cons. What I dont understand is how ignore people are to hate on america companies and owners like bill gates (who btw donates more to charity than maybe something like every major corporation combined).
Also another point of it being ironic to hate on anything america is guess what, if your reading this most likely you live in america. But alas is very cliche and "cool" to hate anything american, so its what the kids do to stay popular.
The first MGS4 trailers were done on Apple PPC-based desktops and as the next trailers rolled out the visuals changed and so did the performance. I've come to expect that I haven't SEEN THE GAME until I play it.
"Between MS and sony, if one were to show off new hardware it would be sony." What about Kinect? The add on that was hyped for well over a year before its release, and a over a year after its yet to prove itself as the all-around control revolution it was advertised as.
Ya...there was this one thing called the move that looked pretty darn similar to the wiimotes but only they looked like black dildos. Dont get me wrong...i own all three systems and play them all equally, but to say that Sony didnt want to cash in on the casual market themselves is nothing but ignorant.
That is true but you forget one important thing, Sony did not forget about the rest of their audience whilst focusing on move, something which Microsoft clearly did not think was important.
i would love to see a ps3.5. Really. It launches with a 500gb drive and 2 gb of memory split. It would give some life to the ps3 right now and allow patches to games that have struggled. It would also give them the leg up on any multiplatform games. And who knows, alot of ppl may just buy it. First update adds cross game chat.
Why not? U cant really lose and the pressure to release a new console may be lessened a little. Alot of people would be so psyched, especially if sony got a confirmation list of companies willing to patch past games like skyrim etc.
All that would achieve is that people would be majorly annoyed and the ones that are less informed about things like that would be confused. People would have different gaming experiences, some features wouldn't work for some but well for others. I don't think anything like that would ever happen nor should it. I would, however, be more than happy to save some serious money for a PS4.
People do mistakes and should learn from them. Sony is in the business to make money and to win market shares. They've done a mistake in the past. That doesn't mean that they will keep repeating the same mistake like it's something in their philosophy/culture, unless they like losing and I don't think anyone likes to lose.
So what you just said is plain naive and stupid, maybe that's what you are wishing for because you're scared and you like Sony to have another runner-up role in the next generation.
Well, PS3 owners, get ready for the golden year of PS3. The last year of PS3. The last year to taste bunch of fresh and highest quality games that industry can offer. Because next E3 will have a new king and the "granny" will have to leave the grand stage.
Same goes to Xbox 360 owners. This year is golden year for all 'Kinecters'. If you don't have Kinect though, then I don't know... Just play Halo 4 all year until the next Xbox comes
Happy gaming and have a great time during E3 for everyone :)
Witcher II is a better game than anything Sony is showing to be honest. I loved it earlier this year. I might buy an Xbox for Halo though even though I'm not a console gamer much.
@mobhit It's not multi-plat. Sure, it may run on a small percentage of upgraded PC's, but it doesn't qualify as a "platform" unless EVERY PC can play it, the same way EVERY 360 can play it.
Typical. PS3 fans desperately need any reason to discount the importance of a 360 game, so you regurgitate the same old "Bu bu bu it's on PC too" line.
lol
at first with ps3 and ps vita comment above i thought you were just playing stupid
but after that comment i see your just plane stupid or a troll.
im guessin the latter
Multiplat=multiplatform= multiple platform. The PC as a whole is considered a platform, not one person's particular setup. So a game you can play on both PC and console is NOT an exclusive.
That removes Minecraft, Witcher 2, and Alan Wake from your list. A full third.
Typical. A 360 fanboy trying to twist the particulars of an argument until they're in his favor.
"It's not multi-plat. Sure, it may run on a small percentage of upgraded PC's, but it doesn't qualify as a "platform" unless EVERY PC can play it, the same way EVERY 360 can play it."
Interesting logic. Let's look at some games that "EVERY 360" can't play...
Fez Minecraft Alan Wake's American Nightmare Sine Mora Trials Evolution Steel Battalion Fable Journey
Too bad "EVERY 360" didn't come equipped with a storage device allowing you to download some of those games, or Kinect which is required to play some of those games. That only cuts your list from ten down to three. Funny how that works.
@DK286K "The Witcher 2 might run on a small number of upgraded PCs"?
Sorry to say but The Witcher 2 has been PC exclusive for over a year. If it hadn't sold well, the devs would have gone down. Which clearly hasnt happened because the game sold and still sells very well on PC.
Also, running the game on all LOW settings looks still better than the console version. So "upgraded PCs" is also a bit wrong since I bet most normal PCs can run it fine.
That's a fairly small list considering u have listen 3 games (Fez, Minecraft and Fable Journey) that I think have already been released. Going by the same principles the PS3 has:
Motorstorm RC God of War Ascension Playstation All Star Battle Royal The Last of Us Dust 514 Journey Sorcery Datura Yakuza 5 Starhawk Ni No Kuni LittleBigKarting Sly Cooper Thieves in Time One Piece Various Atelier games Closure Legasista Warriors Lair Unfinished Swan
Is the writer retarded? He must be. To actually think that sony would release a PS3 reresh without a blu ray drive that would alienate all the games on blu ray that have been released and would no longer be playable on the new ps3 model? At the same time abandoning another platform for their movie franchise to play on?
Going to have to add this site to a list of banned/blocked sites to never visit again. They let anyone have a website and write for them these days.
Can the PS3 fellows tell me what "golden" PS3 games I am missing. I have a few friends, and our PS3s are collecting dust. This is a serious question... asshats need not reply. Thanks.
Uncharted 1-3 Metal Gear Solid 4 God of War III Ratchet & Clank (A Crack in Time especially) LittleBigPlanet (both were/are fun) Heavy Rain Gran Turismo 5 Infamous 2 (first was good, but I2 is miles ahead) Resistance 3 Killzone 3 MLB The Show (if you're a baseball fan, which I am) Warkawk (really fun with friends)
The various collections are great as well if you didn't get a chance to play them on PS2. I wasn't overly impressed with Twisted Metal, and haven't had a chance to play Starhawk yet. But those are some I've enjoyed.
Oh those, my favorites are MGS4, Uncharted 2, God of War III, LBP2, and R&C:aCiT.
@Suicidekingz you might need to try doing the first part of your name..... Now your just trolling. Anybody who bought a ps3 and is letting it collect dust would have been traded or sold it by now. Gamestop is offering 150 bucks for em' right now! Or why don't you ask or google games to play on ps3. It has the same multiplats and a more plentiful and diverse exclusive library then the 360 and if one of em' don't suit your interest then I would high recommend doing the first part of your name because you have lost what it means to be a gamer.
He's clearly trolling, you're clearly a little deranged....or 12. Suggesting someone commit suicide over their irrational dislike of a plastic box, you take the moron cake.
"and if one of em' don't suit your interest then I would high recommend doing the first part of your name because you have lost what it means to be a gamer."
INCORRECT, I dislike some first party PS3 games. I still am fairly sure I still know what it means to be a "Gamer".
Well, my PS3 is collecting dust because I play all multiplatform titles on my 360, but I sure as hell am not going to sell it, because then how would I play The Last of Us or God of War: Ascension when they finally release?
@Ravenor i didnt say you had to like all ps3 exclusive because i dont. i said you should atleast find one that interests you. when someone says oh me and some friends all waisted our money buying a ps3 and never use them because there's no games then you might should kill yourself because it shows how stupid you are with money, and in this economy there's no room for people who waist money like that. But the suicideking was obviously trolling suggesting there's nothing to play on ps3. There's more to play on a ps3.
@Yodacracker I'm pretty sure your just trolling too. You act as if The last of Us and God of War is the only thing to look forward to. There are tons of exclusive to go try. And if you dont wanna waist money buy the game used at gamestop, keep your receipt and return the game after you beat it. I could see if you worked all the time or had a life but to say your ps3 collects dust for 360's awesome library is stupid. I havent touched the 360 since i beat gears 3 and goofed off online for awhile. Other then halo 4 there's nothing to look forward to. I'll play all multiplats on ps3 and enjoy a vast exclusive library. And since I'm not twelve no kinect.
I'd say the same thing I tell anyone without anything to play on the 360.
At this point of the generation, you should be able to download a whole lot of demos.
Personally I got rid of my 360/kinect. If your not a halo/gears fan and you have a pc and ps3 there really isn't anything on 360. Skyrim and games like it are better on pc thanks to mods. I wish more companies would do pc to console mods like epic did with unreal tournament on the ps3.
But like I was saying just download demos and find something you like if you truly can't find anything might as well get rid of it.
I also prefer my ps3 for media. netflix, hulu plus, amazon video and vudu without having to pay microsoft's pay wall is a huge plus and reason enough to keep the dust of your ps3. I am actually enjoying amazon video more than I do netflix, I find the quality to be better.
Hulu plus is great too, I could just use my pc that is connected to my hdtv but I like using a remote control over keyboard or game controller.
I hope you can find something to play or view on your ps3 as I have.
Suicidekingz Then can I have your PS3? I can always use another one, considering that you have no use for yours. Anyone who says that is either delusional or still living in 2006.
But 2 years ago I bought a PS3 Slim for these games: - Killzone 2-3 - Uncharted 2-3 - Wipeout HD - Castle Crashers - Journey - Red Dead Redemption (this is NO exclusive, but it is not available on PC)
Now I'm looking forward to The Last of Us.
All the games described here are enough for me to justify buying a PS3. I don't see exclusives on 360 that want to make me purchase that console. (Most exclusives also appear on PC anyway, e.g. The Witcher 2)
Also glad that online gaming is free, since I don't want to spend money monthly while I'm 70% of the time gaming on my PC.
I can see Sony focusing on, of course Exclusive games, Vita titles (maybe price drop) and do I have to say it? A hand full of Move compatible titles or full games. I personally can't see Sony talking or even hinting of new hardware this E3.
if they do the streaming only box it would be fking epic. i like my traditional console, but having cloud based PS brand gaming, is just too good so it wont happen :(
To even speculate that a "slimmer" ps3 would have no bluray drive is just plain stupid, it's called breaking compatibility and cutting the nuts off sales of disc based games. I really hate when someone throws this out there, you could grab a blu-ray drive for as little as 30.00 full retail which means that it would prolly cost sony 10.00 a drive...hardly worth leaving out...
Just a quick question for for you all 1. Why do you care about price cuts so much when you obviously already have a ps3?? 2. Why must you all constantly make game lists in every ps3 thread? 3. Every APP on the 360 has been customized for KINECT. Fora example with each movie service you can use voice commands to control. That's pretty neat. 4. As for Sony and their exclusives they have more every year but what really has it done for them? Boy Starhawk is off to a super start. Warhawk is probably the ps3 game that I have played the most. But Sony keeps making sequels to mediocre games (Killzone, Infamous, Resistance). 5. No one on this site liked Onlive but now its the best thing since sliced bread now that Sony may have some kind of partnership with them. 6. Microsoft must be doing something right because they have been more successful this gen than Sony and all of their exclusives. I own both and have since this gen begin and the Xbox experience is superior to Sony's this gen. I am really pissed at Sony for how Socom was handled this gen. that game could have been the centerpiece of PSN but they fucked it up........twice. But let you all tell it Sony can do no wrong.
You Sony fanboys are pathetic but I respect your opinions.
1) Nothing wrong with price cuts, cheaper entry points for consumers is always a good thing.
2) Way to ignore the "game list" that the Xbox owner made in this comment section. PS3 gamers tend to make the list because there are still people who act like PS3 has no games.
3) Voice commands are neat I suppose, but is pressing a button and having an immediate response any worse than saying "Xbox...(insert command)? Its cool and futuristic in a way for sure, but is it worth missing out on, you know, games?
4) What have exclusives done for Sony? Maybe nothing, maybe they've lost money on every exclusive game they're released, from highs like the Uncharted series to lows like Lair, but the bottom line is, Sony has offered gamers the biggest variety in games. I'd rather have 4-5 solid exclusives a year, than 2 every two years.
5) Sony is merely (allegedly) adding another way to provide another service to gamers. What is better, making a big deal about having a YouTube app available on a paid service, or giving you access to another way to play games?
6) Here's what MS has done right this generation: They released their system first, it was cheaper, and they dipped into MS' infinite financial pockets to "persuade" third party studios to have previously announced PS3 exclusives go multi. Plus lets not forget that outside of Halo and Gears, MS exclusives have done average business. Alan Wake didnt' do as well as Heavy Rain (which had no US marketing campaign!). There's been like three Forza's on the 360, have all three combined even outsold GT5? I agree that Halo and Gears have reached a mainstream level that Uncharted never will, but let's face it, overall, Sony has done a better job catering to gamers than MS.
What a pathetic attempt to say something even remotely intelligent by an eXBox fannyboi. Have you no self respect or are you so bored because you have nothing new or exiting to play on a fast retiring console!
I am sure these longs lists of games have you in a total frenzy as there are such a robust selection that no matter what question is asked it can be replied to with a list. What can the eXBox fannybois list/
1)Halo 2)Halow 3)Halower 4)Halowest 5)Halow next 6)Halow to come
I could just tell you to listen to what stephmishot said, since those are some solid and perfectly logical answers, but I'll elaborate on what I personally think.
Firstly, saying you respect those people's opinions is a lie since you find the things said and what they stand for to be pathetic, so don't pretend.
1) A lower priced console is good for consumers, and means there is more opportunity for people to play some amazing games that they didn't know the PS3 had, that Xbox, Wii or PC didn't. It expands the opportunity for multiplayer based games to grow and thrive some more. To some people it's an opportunity to boast that the console will now outsell its rival. It doesn't tend to happen, nor is it important.
2) Lists are things that all fanboys provide. It also affirms observations and facts in a good way. It's not something that only PS3 fans do, and if you think so, check look closer in the comments.
3) That's okay, no one is refuting that. If that is where their focus lies, that's how it's gonna be. Plus it's not like that takes a lot of effort, since Microsoft have their own API for voice recognition.
4) The case for Sony and their exclusives: read my final paragraph for this. Why are you so hung up about what these games are doing for Sony, and not what they have done and continue to do for gamers? Millions of people love these exclusives and Sony have either provided or housed them. Mediocre in your singular opinion. Killzone and inFamous are great. Resistance faltered in its second entry, but had Sony not green-lit a third one, Resistance 3 (which is the best in the series, at least as far as the campaign is concerned) wouldn't have happened.
5) OnLive. I don't want to buy it and I don't want to use their crappy controller. I can say that probably applies to many gamers on here. But it is a huge thing for Sony to have it on their console, nontheless. Streaming games is handy and if you can do it on your PS3, for no extra charge (unless it's a PS+ feature) the incentive at least exists.
6) More successful because they released their console a year in advance, have had the cheapest HD console for most of this generation, throw their money at third party companies and have heavily, HEAVILY marketed. Yet again, you are talking corporate success like it's more important to gamers than games. That my friend is what's appears more pathetic.
Socom has been a let down since PS2. We can all admit this. Twisted Metal and Starhawk are the centerpieces of the PSN currently and are both excellent. If you'd have played them, you'd know that but I seriously doubt you have.
And it's not that Sony can do no wrong, since obviously they have done, but even if they produce some duds, at least they are making a solid (in fact, more than so) contribution to new IPs, original games and content that is and always has been produced for their core audience. And a good percentage of them range from good to incredible. Think of that, as opposed to shifting a huge amount of focus on gimmicks and content that is detrimental to their core user base. They are taking more risks for the benefit of both the industry and gamers, opening up more avenues of choice for their consumers, and not performing solely based on their own bottom line. The current financial situation of both companies should tell you something, it really should.
@ condemmedman (below)
Aren't most games this gen just rinse and repeat then?
That's standard Sony, they announce games 3 to 4 years in advance before release. That's why they seem to announce so many exclusives, while other Companies announce exclusives that are coming out in a short time.
i sure hope this article is right, if they do pull out a new console it would sure be a bad timing for the econom's sake, not to mention our wallets too
when it comes to 2012 exclusives, the PS3 is in trouble. i know a lot of fans on this site won't accept this at all, but it is still true.
What is the holiday lineup this far?
- LBP Karting - Playstation Battle Royal - MAYBE the Last of Us.
--> 2 confirmed games, both won't be huge hits at all. The Last of Us needs to release this year and it needs to be a huge hit.
notable games this far:
- Journey - Twisted Metal - Starhawk
--> Starhawk and Twisted Metal flopped big time, Journey was well reviewed.
On the other hand Xbox 360 already had
- Fez - Trials - The Witcher 2 - Alan Wake Americn Nightmare - Minecraft
Minecraft sits at 1.6 million sold games right now. Trials is on its way to be a millionseller. The Witcher 2 and Fez are well reviewed and sell decently.
Xbox 360 will have the gigantic games
- Halo 4 - Forza Horizon
Both games will sell more than 2 million copies.
So this year belongs to the Xbox 360 without a doubt. If you say "I can play some of these games on my PC" You are admitting that the PS3 needs at least a $400 PC to compete with the Xbox 360. Think about it.
The point is that Sony needs to save the PS Vita. It is very close to become irrelevant already. So they need to focus on that device more than ever, which is not good for the PS3.
The only thing ps3 will fail at is ALWAYS having PAST, PRESENT, and FUTURE GAMES TO PLAY. I already stated i'm lookin forward to HALO 4. And Halo 4 will Kick ass for the xb360 untill your disc scratch up (u know it just like i do) and u will have to throw it in the trash and go out to your local store and pay another $ 59.99 plus tax. i have a slim xb360 and i do install my games. but xb360 games is simply not cost friendly. that's is why Halo 4 and forza and any other 360 game will sale more in the long run. but I will do my part to make the ps3 relevant in 2006,2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, and etc.
Why exactly are the mods doing nothing about the PS3 fanboys who constantly bash every other console/platform, fans of those platforms and generally people who post constructive criticism regarding Sony, Sony products and their exclusive games?
They even get agrees from fellow fanboys even if their posts are filled with nothing but nonsense and lies, anyone who speaks a word of truth whether it's technical or game related is instantly labeled a troll and their bubble count is reduced to nothing.
What exactly are the mods doing? how can you let this carry on for this long, it's been like 3+ years now and none of them have been banned. Just from reading the comments on this article and seeing the way they trample upon anyone with a different opinion/unbiased-opinion is just horrendous.
You know that's not happening. That dude was obviously a troll and when ever you offer an intelligent remark to a troll they curl up and die.
I don't understand the bashing of other consoles (especially with unfounded facts). I'll defend when someone purports some bullshit but to just attack for the sake of attacking it is sad. I'm a Sony lover but you don't see me saying "lol Xbox sux, its way worse than PS3. Stupid failbox<<<<<< ;<<<<Ps3"
Let see PS3: full 1080p(Bluray Movies), Native 720p(Bluray Games), Cell P, 240hz, 3D, DTS audio, Upgradeable Hard Drive(Your Choice), PS3 Got GAMES( multiplat titles & Sony titles), Cord(to Charge up your controller), and Last but not least FREE PSN! If you watch Sony E3 Conference and don't come away EXCITED for what they have in store? Well YOU need to lick your finger tips and SLAP yourself HARD 10 times until u see PS3 is indeed a BEAST. and the PS3 is cost friendly. I myself is EXCITED for all the conferences and can't waitt to see HALO 4 and Wii U NEW BABY. Bring ON E3!!! psn; cedaridge / xbl; cedar4Thunder
Not my Eyes, Sony could invent x ray vision glasses that wouldhelp see through the hot girl next doors already skimpy clothes. And Still Sony couldn't sale it with its marketing. How many billions has Sony lost this year?
I thought I said ASSHATS.. need not reply. I used the word "golden" because even though I consider most of the titles mentioned VERY GOOD,... I think i was reaching with GOLDEN. Which came from someone's former post. Anyone who checks my PS name can tell I've played a few of those titles.... so I'm not sure how I'm trolling. Nonetheless... thanks for the heads up. Valkyria Chronicles caught my attention... thanks for that. One last thing, why can't I come to a GAMING website, and ask REAL gamers (pfft) what's HOT or EXCEPTIONAL on a GAMING platform?
I think the problem here is that people overlook what each console has done this gen. Instead of seeing only a PS3, only an xbox, or only a Wii (yes I include the wii) think of them as an entire whole. I own all three systems and overall the ps3 is my favorite. I can respect what each console has done this gen though.
I will admit I'm not a huge fan of MS and the way they do business and it has severely impacted my view of the 360 as a gaming platform. In my opinion they have only truly have these games (Halo, Gears, Alan Wake, Forza, and Fez). I don't like the fact that Microsoft will push halo, gears, and a certain multiplat to infinity but usually let everything fall to the wayside. Still I will not undermine what they have done for the gaming world, they single handedly built the demand for online (Thank you Halo) and input a system for those who couldn't afford the $600 PS3. Still I don't like paying to play online (xchat, I have to pay you to use netflix a 3rd party service?), rushing your system (the RROD), where's the exclusives (in fairness the xbox was never really an exclusive powerhouse so I guess), proprietary HDDs, localization lock, and xchat (which may not be a burden to some but I sold BF3 on the xbox and got it for the PC because nobody was using their mics everyone was in xchat. I know PC doesn't have VOIP but it does have skype)
I don't like the wii or nintendo plain in simple in this gen, but I can respect the fact that I have something for my nieces and nephews to play when they come over. I don't have to explain how the controller works it's pretty intuitive, thank you Nintendo for that. Also a $250 console this gen was unheard of and I got a few good games out of it (Madworld, No More Heroes, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, Zelda) Was it a casual system yes, was it less powerful than the other two yes, did that hurt the games that came out on it yes. It still doesn't dilute what they contributed to the gaming market. Never have old people and young people been able to bond over a game so efficiently.
I love my PS3, I have loved sony since the PS1. I thank them for keeping PSN free, for not rushing your system to get it out early,for including blu-ray players in their systems, pushing 3D, keeping exclusives in their line-up, for the most part not being invasive in what devs do and continuing to take losses and not hike up prices, charge extra for services. In my opinion Sony is a true gaming company. However I cannot overlook their shortcomings Thanks for e3 '05 (the only game that lived up to the hype were KZ2, Uncharted 2, and Heavy Rain). Thanks for the 20 days of downtime (yes I played beat all my SP games but still this was unacceptable), and that draught during 06 and part of 07 that hurt. Also the Agency really pissed me but that's another story...
Like I said Sony is my favorite company and it has been for the past few gens but guys can we really overlook what everyone has done this gen. I have an opinion and it's mine. Everyone else is entitled to their own. Let's not bash or undermine the importance of competition and other consoles. Think about this if MS had not gotten some PS3 exclusives to go multiplat would Sony have found new exclusives? If Sony didn't start shelling out good exclusives would MS had paid the extra money to secure ports of the Witcher or Minecraft? If the wii didn't totally murder the big two in sales early on would we have price cuts or attempts at new hardware? I thank each console and their respective company for their contributions even though I have a soft spot for sony.
One thing I haven't seen in a while, which every time I see it makes me laugh. Is a PS3 model W/O blu-ray. I mean, wouldn't that literally defeat the point of a PS3. W/O Blu-ray its simply not a PS3.
What ever retard came up with this thought (and if I remember correctly it was some no name amateur analyst) needs to go away. Sure, ill cut the OP of this article a little bit of slack, as he does say its highly unlikely, AND he uses the rumor of Sony teaming up with a game streaming service as a point behind the claim. However it just wouldn't make sense. At least to me.
Mark my words, for this generation at least, we will NOT see a disk drive (or in this case a Blu-ray) less console. And i'm talking console, not handheld, because we all know how spectacular the PSPGO did lol.
[quote=You] One thing I haven't seen in a while, which every time I see it makes me laugh. Is a PS3 model W/O blu-ray. I mean, wouldn't that literally defeat the point of a PS3. W/O Blu-ray its simply not a PS3.]
Bwahahaha, have you even read the article, if you did start laughing, quick.
[Quote=Original]No Blu-ray drive? Possibly, although unlikely.]
You know, after I read my own comment, it could have used a little editing. Maybe a good once over to make it a bit better to understand.
Though, if you look at the second paragraph I have going there, you would see that I clearly read the article.
[quote=me] Sure, ill cut the OP of this article a little bit of slack, as he does say its highly unlikely, AND he uses the rumor of Sony teaming up with a game streaming service as a point behind the claim.
So i'm honestly not sure if you're laughing at me, or what exactly the point of your comment is... but uhh, yeah.
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More "hardcore" games? Lets forget about the "hardcore" term.
As for the PS3, Sony will bring more exclusive games as well as better games than MS + PSVita games, while MS will bring multiplatform games like COD (as always) Halo, Kineckt and MAYBE a new game.
Sony will probably have a much better show.
It's between Sony and Nintendo but I don't think we can say Nintendo is already the winner just because they have a new console, we need to wait and see what seems to be an epic battle this year.
Well, since Sony produces games for the PS3 and Vita, it's pretty obvious that they will show more games than MS, who produce games for just one system.
I think he means for the ps3.It wouldnt be "as usual" seeing that this vita 2nd appearence or 3rd at e3
The draw-back with that idea is that Sony not only would market a 'new' PS3 hardware... but within one year, it would have to market an even 'newer' piece of hardware, the PS4. They would have to consider how confused that could make the public; marketing would prove to be difficult.
Overall, I feel [like many others] that Sony is the only one who will give Ninty a run for its money for E3 publicity.
Between the following... Sony has a lot of potential for a superb conference.
- PS Vita games +++
- PS3 exclusives ++
- Move games ++ (especially since they are reaching the end of this gen cycle. They need to focus on low price point and appealing to the masses)
- PS Plus +
The '+' signifies what I feel they would concentrate the most time to.
Killzone 2 says otherwise. The actual game looked better when it came out than its 2005 animation.
It was still in development so bound to change.
better hardware, better and more games (and variety, better graphics, free online, etc ebill gates( employeetc get over it, and buy one if you are a gamer more than bill gates's employee.
I get how some peeps prefer one system over another for whatever pros and cons. What I dont understand is how ignore people are to hate on america companies and owners like bill gates (who btw donates more to charity than maybe something like every major corporation combined).
Also another point of it being ironic to hate on anything america is guess what, if your reading this most likely you live in america. But alas is very cliche and "cool" to hate anything american, so its what the kids do to stay popular.
What about Kinect? The add on that was hyped for well over a year before its release, and a over a year after its yet to prove itself as the all-around control revolution it was advertised as.
I mean, come on.
Ya...there was this one thing called the move that looked pretty darn similar to the wiimotes but only they looked like black dildos. Dont get me wrong...i own all three systems and play them all equally, but to say that Sony didnt want to cash in on the casual market themselves is nothing but ignorant.
Why not? U cant really lose and the pressure to release a new console may be lessened a little. Alot of people would be so psyched, especially if sony got a confirmation list of companies willing to patch past games like skyrim etc.
So what you just said is plain naive and stupid, maybe that's what you are wishing for because you're scared and you like Sony to have another runner-up role in the next generation.
Same goes to Xbox 360 owners. This year is golden year for all 'Kinecters'. If you don't have Kinect though, then I don't know... Just play Halo 4 all year until the next Xbox comes
Happy gaming and have a great time during E3 for everyone :)
Forza Horizon
Fez
Minecraft
Witcher II
Alan Wake's American Nightmare
Sine Mora
Trials Evolution
Steel Battalion
Fable Journey
Plus whatever else MS shows at E3. Nice try though.
No troll.
Witcher II is a better game than anything Sony is showing to be honest. I loved it earlier this year. I might buy an Xbox for Halo though even though I'm not a console gamer much.
Witcher? Really? We're comparing a multiplat to exclusives now?!
Are you guys *THIS* desperate?
It's not multi-plat. Sure, it may run on a small percentage of upgraded PC's, but it doesn't qualify as a "platform" unless EVERY PC can play it, the same way EVERY 360 can play it.
Typical. PS3 fans desperately need any reason to discount the importance of a 360 game, so you regurgitate the same old "Bu bu bu it's on PC too" line.
at first with ps3 and ps vita comment above i thought you were just playing stupid
but after that comment i see your just plane stupid or a troll.
im guessin the latter
That removes Minecraft, Witcher 2, and Alan Wake from your list. A full third.
Typical. A 360 fanboy trying to twist the particulars of an argument until they're in his favor.
"It's not multi-plat. Sure, it may run on a small percentage of upgraded PC's, but it doesn't qualify as a "platform" unless EVERY PC can play it, the same way EVERY 360 can play it."
Interesting logic. Let's look at some games that "EVERY 360" can't play...
Fez
Minecraft
Alan Wake's American Nightmare
Sine Mora
Trials Evolution
Steel Battalion
Fable Journey
Too bad "EVERY 360" didn't come equipped with a storage device allowing you to download some of those games, or Kinect which is required to play some of those games. That only cuts your list from ten down to three. Funny how that works.
"The Witcher 2 might run on a small number of upgraded PCs"?
Sorry to say but The Witcher 2 has been PC exclusive for over a year. If it hadn't sold well, the devs would have gone down.
Which clearly hasnt happened because the game sold and still sells very well on PC.
Also, running the game on all LOW settings looks still better than the console version. So "upgraded PCs" is also a bit wrong since I bet most normal PCs can run it fine.
Motorstorm RC
God of War Ascension
Playstation All Star Battle Royal
The Last of Us
Dust 514
Journey
Sorcery
Datura
Yakuza 5
Starhawk
Ni No Kuni
LittleBigKarting
Sly Cooper Thieves in Time
One Piece
Various Atelier games
Closure
Legasista
Warriors Lair
Unfinished Swan
And other games which haven't been announced!
It's a multiplatform game. GET OVER IT. You cannot compare a multiplat with an exclusive that actually uses the console's power.
No amount of disagrees and stomping of feet will change that.
WTF? I stopped reading right here.
Is the writer retarded? He must be. To actually think that sony would release a PS3 reresh without a blu ray drive that would alienate all the games on blu ray that have been released and would no longer be playable on the new ps3 model? At the same time abandoning another platform for their movie franchise to play on?
Going to have to add this site to a list of banned/blocked sites to never visit again. They let anyone have a website and write for them these days.
Uncharted 1-3
Metal Gear Solid 4
God of War III
Ratchet & Clank (A Crack in Time especially)
LittleBigPlanet (both were/are fun)
Heavy Rain
Gran Turismo 5
Infamous 2 (first was good, but I2 is miles ahead)
Resistance 3
Killzone 3
MLB The Show (if you're a baseball fan, which I am)
Warkawk (really fun with friends)
The various collections are great as well if you didn't get a chance to play them on PS2. I wasn't overly impressed with Twisted Metal, and haven't had a chance to play Starhawk yet. But those are some I've enjoyed.
Oh those, my favorites are MGS4, Uncharted 2, God of War III, LBP2, and R&C:aCiT.
you might need to try doing the first part of your name..... Now your just trolling. Anybody who bought a ps3 and is letting it collect dust would have been traded or sold it by now. Gamestop is offering 150 bucks for em' right now! Or why don't you ask or google games to play on ps3. It has the same multiplats and a more plentiful and diverse exclusive library then the 360 and if one of em' don't suit your interest then I would high recommend doing the first part of your name because you have lost what it means to be a gamer.
"and if one of em' don't suit your interest then I would high recommend doing the first part of your name because you have lost what it means to be a gamer."
INCORRECT, I dislike some first party PS3 games. I still am fairly sure I still know what it means to be a "Gamer".
@Yodacracker
I'm pretty sure your just trolling too. You act as if The last of Us and God of War is the only thing to look forward to. There are tons of exclusive to go try. And if you dont wanna waist money buy the game used at gamestop, keep your receipt and return the game after you beat it. I could see if you worked all the time or had a life but to say your ps3 collects dust for 360's awesome library is stupid. I havent touched the 360 since i beat gears 3 and goofed off online for awhile. Other then halo 4 there's nothing to look forward to. I'll play all multiplats on ps3 and enjoy a vast exclusive library. And since I'm not twelve no kinect.
At this point of the generation, you should be able to download a whole lot of demos.
Personally I got rid of my 360/kinect. If your not a halo/gears fan and you have a pc and ps3 there really isn't anything on 360. Skyrim and games like it are better on pc thanks to mods. I wish more companies would do pc to console mods like epic did with unreal tournament on the ps3.
But like I was saying just download demos and find something you like if you truly can't find anything might as well get rid of it.
I also prefer my ps3 for media. netflix, hulu plus, amazon video and vudu without having to pay microsoft's pay wall is a huge plus and reason enough to keep the dust of your ps3. I am actually enjoying amazon video more than I do netflix, I find the quality to be better.
Hulu plus is great too, I could just use my pc that is connected to my hdtv but I like using a remote control over keyboard or game controller.
I hope you can find something to play or view on your ps3 as I have.
Then can I have your PS3? I can always use another one, considering that you have no use for yours. Anyone who says that is either delusional or still living in 2006.
Wait, you're a troll.
But 2 years ago I bought a PS3 Slim for these games:
- Killzone 2-3
- Uncharted 2-3
- Wipeout HD
- Castle Crashers
- Journey
- Red Dead Redemption (this is NO exclusive, but it is not available on PC)
Now I'm looking forward to The Last of Us.
All the games described here are enough for me to justify buying a PS3. I don't see exclusives on 360 that want to make me purchase that console. (Most exclusives also appear on PC anyway, e.g. The Witcher 2)
Also glad that online gaming is free, since I don't want to spend money monthly while I'm 70% of the time gaming on my PC.
1. Why do you care about price cuts so much when you obviously already have a ps3??
2. Why must you all constantly make game lists in every ps3 thread?
3. Every APP on the 360 has been customized for KINECT. Fora example with each movie service you can use voice commands to control. That's pretty neat.
4. As for Sony and their exclusives they have more every year but what really has it done for them? Boy Starhawk is off to a super start. Warhawk is probably the ps3 game that I have played the most. But Sony keeps making sequels to mediocre games (Killzone, Infamous, Resistance).
5. No one on this site liked Onlive but now its the best thing since sliced bread now that Sony may have some kind of partnership with them.
6. Microsoft must be doing something right because they have been more successful this gen than Sony and all of their exclusives. I own both and have since this gen begin and the Xbox experience is superior to Sony's this gen. I am really pissed at Sony for how Socom was handled this gen. that game could have been the centerpiece of PSN but they fucked it up........twice. But let you all tell it Sony can do no wrong.
You Sony fanboys are pathetic but I respect your opinions.
1. Shut up!
2. Shut up!
3. Shut up!
4. Shut up!
5. Shut up!
6. Shut up!
2) Way to ignore the "game list" that the Xbox owner made in this comment section. PS3 gamers tend to make the list because there are still people who act like PS3 has no games.
3) Voice commands are neat I suppose, but is pressing a button and having an immediate response any worse than saying "Xbox...(insert command)? Its cool and futuristic in a way for sure, but is it worth missing out on, you know, games?
4) What have exclusives done for Sony? Maybe nothing, maybe they've lost money on every exclusive game they're released, from highs like the Uncharted series to lows like Lair, but the bottom line is, Sony has offered gamers the biggest variety in games. I'd rather have 4-5 solid exclusives a year, than 2 every two years.
5) Sony is merely (allegedly) adding another way to provide another service to gamers. What is better, making a big deal about having a YouTube app available on a paid service, or giving you access to another way to play games?
6) Here's what MS has done right this generation: They released their system first, it was cheaper, and they dipped into MS' infinite financial pockets to "persuade" third party studios to have previously announced PS3 exclusives go multi. Plus lets not forget that outside of Halo and Gears, MS exclusives have done average business. Alan Wake didnt' do as well as Heavy Rain (which had no US marketing campaign!). There's been like three Forza's on the 360, have all three combined even outsold GT5? I agree that Halo and Gears have reached a mainstream level that Uncharted never will, but let's face it, overall, Sony has done a better job catering to gamers than MS.
I am sure these longs lists of games have you in a total frenzy as there are such a robust selection that no matter what question is asked it can be replied to with a list. What can the eXBox fannybois list/
1)Halo
2)Halow
3)Halower
4)Halowest
5)Halow next
6)Halow to come
Firstly, saying you respect those people's opinions is a lie since you find the things said and what they stand for to be pathetic, so don't pretend.
1) A lower priced console is good for consumers, and means there is more opportunity for people to play some amazing games that they didn't know the PS3 had, that Xbox, Wii or PC didn't. It expands the opportunity for multiplayer based games to grow and thrive some more. To some people it's an opportunity to boast that the console will now outsell its rival. It doesn't tend to happen, nor is it important.
2) Lists are things that all fanboys provide. It also affirms observations and facts in a good way. It's not something that only PS3 fans do, and if you think so, check look closer in the comments.
3) That's okay, no one is refuting that. If that is where their focus lies, that's how it's gonna be. Plus it's not like that takes a lot of effort, since Microsoft have their own API for voice recognition.
4) The case for Sony and their exclusives: read my final paragraph for this. Why are you so hung up about what these games are doing for Sony, and not what they have done and continue to do for gamers? Millions of people love these exclusives and Sony have either provided or housed them. Mediocre in your singular opinion. Killzone and inFamous are great. Resistance faltered in its second entry, but had Sony not green-lit a third one, Resistance 3 (which is the best in the series, at least as far as the campaign is concerned) wouldn't have happened.
5) OnLive. I don't want to buy it and I don't want to use their crappy controller. I can say that probably applies to many gamers on here. But it is a huge thing for Sony to have it on their console, nontheless. Streaming games is handy and if you can do it on your PS3, for no extra charge (unless it's a PS+ feature) the incentive at least exists.
6) More successful because they released their console a year in advance, have had the cheapest HD console for most of this generation, throw their money at third party companies and have heavily, HEAVILY marketed. Yet again, you are talking corporate success like it's more important to gamers than games. That my friend is what's appears more pathetic.
Socom has been a let down since PS2. We can all admit this. Twisted Metal and Starhawk are the centerpieces of the PSN currently and are both excellent. If you'd have played them, you'd know that but I seriously doubt you have.
And it's not that Sony can do no wrong, since obviously they have done, but even if they produce some duds, at least they are making a solid (in fact, more than so) contribution to new IPs, original games and content that is and always has been produced for their core audience. And a good percentage of them range from good to incredible. Think of that, as opposed to shifting a huge amount of focus on gimmicks and content that is detrimental to their core user base. They are taking more risks for the benefit of both the industry and gamers, opening up more avenues of choice for their consumers, and not performing solely based on their own bottom line. The current financial situation of both companies should tell you something, it really should.
@ condemmedman (below)
Aren't most games this gen just rinse and repeat then?
ff14 PS3 ver. still waiting oh and versus....
That's standard Sony, they announce games 3 to 4 years in advance before release. That's why they seem to announce so many exclusives, while other Companies announce exclusives that are coming out in a short time.
But some looked better and some were close.
Personally i want to see PS4, and i want it to include kepler.(wishful thinking), 2-3gb ram. cell 2.0 or a decent quad core system.
I want a new motorstorm, killzone set on earth with more color. and rock solid 60fps.
1920x1080 or 1200 would be good enough for me, with 4 aa.
GT6, uncharted 4 Must be launch titles.
Either way, it'll be interesting to see what comes.
What is the holiday lineup this far?
- LBP Karting
- Playstation Battle Royal
- MAYBE the Last of Us.
--> 2 confirmed games, both won't be huge hits at all. The Last of Us needs to release this year and it needs to be a huge hit.
notable games this far:
- Journey
- Twisted Metal
- Starhawk
--> Starhawk and Twisted Metal flopped big time, Journey was well reviewed.
On the other hand Xbox 360 already had
- Fez
- Trials
- The Witcher 2
- Alan Wake Americn Nightmare
- Minecraft
Minecraft sits at 1.6 million sold games right now. Trials is on its way to be a millionseller. The Witcher 2 and Fez are well reviewed and sell decently.
Xbox 360 will have the gigantic games
- Halo 4
- Forza Horizon
Both games will sell more than 2 million copies.
So this year belongs to the Xbox 360 without a doubt. If you say "I can play some of these games on my PC" You are admitting that the PS3 needs at least a $400 PC to compete with the Xbox 360. Think about it.
The point is that Sony needs to save the PS Vita. It is very close to become irrelevant already. So they need to focus on that device more than ever, which is not good for the PS3.
...You (in case your brain didn't get it yet).
They even get agrees from fellow fanboys even if their posts are filled with nothing but nonsense and lies, anyone who speaks a word of truth whether it's technical or game related is instantly labeled a troll and their bubble count is reduced to nothing.
What exactly are the mods doing? how can you let this carry on for this long, it's been like 3+ years now and none of them have been banned. Just from reading the comments on this article and seeing the way they trample upon anyone with a different opinion/unbiased-opinion is just horrendous.
This is seriously pathetic.
He's got one comment left to make in this thread, and I hope he uses it to either rebutt, or concede to stephs reply.
Unless of course he's a shareholder for MS, Turn 10 or whoever's doing the new halo
I don't understand the bashing of other consoles (especially with unfounded facts). I'll defend when someone purports some bullshit but to just attack for the sake of attacking it is sad. I'm a Sony lover but you don't see me saying "lol Xbox sux, its way worse than PS3. Stupid failbox<<<<<< ;<<<<Ps3"
What has the world come to.
I will admit I'm not a huge fan of MS and the way they do business and it has severely impacted my view of the 360 as a gaming platform. In my opinion they have only truly have these games (Halo, Gears, Alan Wake, Forza, and Fez). I don't like the fact that Microsoft will push halo, gears, and a certain multiplat to infinity but usually let everything fall to the wayside. Still I will not undermine what they have done for the gaming world, they single handedly built the demand for online (Thank you Halo) and input a system for those who couldn't afford the $600 PS3. Still I don't like paying to play online (xchat, I have to pay you to use netflix a 3rd party service?), rushing your system (the RROD), where's the exclusives (in fairness the xbox was never really an exclusive powerhouse so I guess), proprietary HDDs, localization lock, and xchat (which may not be a burden to some but I sold BF3 on the xbox and got it for the PC because nobody was using their mics everyone was in xchat. I know PC doesn't have VOIP but it does have skype)
I don't like the wii or nintendo plain in simple in this gen, but I can respect the fact that I have something for my nieces and nephews to play when they come over. I don't have to explain how the controller works it's pretty intuitive, thank you Nintendo for that. Also a $250 console this gen was unheard of and I got a few good games out of it (Madworld, No More Heroes, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, Zelda) Was it a casual system yes, was it less powerful than the other two yes, did that hurt the games that came out on it yes. It still doesn't dilute what they contributed to the gaming market. Never have old people and young people been able to bond over a game so efficiently.
I love my PS3, I have loved sony since the PS1. I thank them for keeping PSN free, for not rushing your system to get it out early,for including blu-ray players in their systems, pushing 3D, keeping exclusives in their line-up, for the most part not being invasive in what devs do and continuing to take losses and not hike up prices, charge extra for services. In my opinion Sony is a true gaming company. However I cannot overlook their shortcomings Thanks for e3 '05 (the only game that lived up to the hype were KZ2, Uncharted 2, and Heavy Rain). Thanks for the 20 days of downtime (yes I played beat all my SP games but still this was unacceptable), and that draught during 06 and part of 07 that hurt. Also the Agency really pissed me but that's another story...
Like I said Sony is my favorite company and it has been for the past few gens but guys can we really overlook what everyone has done this gen. I have an opinion and it's mine. Everyone else is entitled to their own. Let's not bash or undermine the importance of competition and other consoles. Think about this if MS had not gotten some PS3 exclusives to go multiplat would Sony have found new exclusives? If Sony didn't start shelling out good exclusives would MS had paid the extra money to secure ports of the Witcher or Minecraft? If the wii didn't totally murder the big two in sales early on would we have price cuts or attempts at new hardware? I thank each console and their respective company for their contributions even though I have a soft spot for sony.
What ever retard came up with this thought (and if I remember correctly it was some no name amateur analyst) needs to go away. Sure, ill cut the OP of this article a little bit of slack, as he does say its highly unlikely, AND he uses the rumor of Sony teaming up with a game streaming service as a point behind the claim. However it just wouldn't make sense. At least to me.
Mark my words, for this generation at least, we will NOT see a disk drive (or in this case a Blu-ray) less console. And i'm talking console, not handheld, because we all know how spectacular the PSPGO did lol.
Bwahahaha, have you even read the article, if you did start laughing, quick.
[Quote=Original]No Blu-ray drive? Possibly, although unlikely.]
Though, if you look at the second paragraph I have going there, you would see that I clearly read the article.
[quote=me] Sure, ill cut the OP of this article a little bit of slack, as he does say its highly unlikely, AND he uses the rumor of Sony teaming up with a game streaming service as a point behind the claim.
So i'm honestly not sure if you're laughing at me, or what exactly the point of your comment is... but uhh, yeah.