Ubisoft say AC Shadows protagonists will be "romantically attracted to different types of people"

Ubisoft recently shared more details about Assassin's Creed Shadows protagonists, confirming that both of them will romantically attract and be attracted to different types of people.

[Hugodastrevas]

That should please everyone I'm sure...

[RpgSama]

Feudal Japan DEI LGBTQ+ Samurai, sounds very accurate for the time period. Surely a decision made only with historical accuracy in mind.

[Crows90]

Or even modern day accuracy.....

[Lexreborn2]

You have no idea what you are talking about, bet you didn’t know nobunaga was bi-sexual. Or ran maru his is often depicted as androgynous was a “beautiful boy”.

So yeah, feudal Japan had tons of lgbtq and kawaii enough… A BLACK SAMURAI! All without the need of offending a Caucasian because the world is diverse.

[VenomUK]

This story has cracked me up so much! Bravo Ubisoft, bravo! 🤣. So last week everyone was upset that in the long-awaited first Assassin’s Creed: Japan game the protagonist is black. But NOW he is also LGBTQ+ ! It’s like the Ubisoft creative team sat around a table and said “How can we best impress our Kotaku/IGN/Polygon friends and antagonise gamers? Let’s make it woke x 100!’ And then they all silent clapped!

Just you wait until the Star Wars: Outlaws details come out, there better not be anybody complaining about Kay Vess’ dating preferences and the gay droid armies.

[Christopher]

It actually is.

Japanese were very Greek in their sexual experiences.

[lodossrage]

Lexreborn2 is right

Go read up on Japan's feudal era homosexuality and bisexuality was a very common thing in that time.

I just have to laugh because the same people complaining about this are the same ones crying about wanting "historical accuracy". When it's clear most of the whiners don't even know history themselves.

[Christopher]

Facts don't care about downvotes, btw. You either claim to understand historical accuracy or you just admit you don't like the stuff people did throughout history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

[thorstein]

Japan had no Christian stupidity about sexuality.

That's where your nonsensical puritanical view comes from: the Abraham's faiths.

It's feudal Japan, they don't believe in your religion's made up nonsense.

I mean, if you're going to embrace a particular viewpoint, you should at least be aware of where it comes from. Most of the world doesn't care about your ideals.

In those days, they certainly didn't care about your religion.

Get over yourself.

[RpgSama]

All of you guys missed the point, I even said I'm very sure they did it ONLY because they wanted to be historically accurate. Stop defending this, we all know why they did it and who they want to pander, it's not out newfound respect for history.

[lodossrage]

@RpgSama

Nobody is defending anything.

People are just pointing out the fact that after they just cried about the game not being historically accurate, when they SHOW they're accurate, they cry about it because they don't like certain parts of history

Not to mention you contradicted yourself RPGSama. You just pointed out you said they "ONLY because they wanted to be historically accurate". Then turn around and accuse them of pandering and/or having an agenda. Those two things are opposing statements

[Cacabunga]

Dumbest decision ever.. always online was a pass for me but now not even for free I’ll try it..

[LordoftheCritics]

It's made by Ubisoft Montreal.

Obviously we'll be allowed to bang anything that moves.

[GamingSinceForever]

😂 😂

[RiseNShine]

Yeha pretty sure.

[H9]

People actually telling you that Japan had sexual deviancy which is correct however what's hilarious is that they will act as if it holds the same moral value that the LGBT community holds today, oh the things men used to say about themselves when they are attracted to other men, it's not empowering in the least bit

[senorfartcushion]

It was more common to be attracted to the same sex before the crusades.

[Tapani]

You are completely lost on Japanese history. Japan was one of the most liberal places in the world, and in many ways still is. You can slice and dice it from your western hubris and whatever point of view, but the reality is that history tells great stories about freedom of choice and people not being judgemental on this island. Also one of the reasons I want to raise my family here, no need to have those whatever Western woke bullshit here, because everyone just respects each other without using all that nonsense.

[CrimsonWing69]

Geezus, just make a good game… holy sh*t this is becoming insufferable.

[Crows90]

Oh yeah!!!! What about being inclusive???

I'm sorry
..please replace the word inclusive with stupid.

[senorfartcushion]

Virgin alert^

[Hofstaderman]

You asking UbiSoft to make a good game? This is not 2002.

[thorstein]

I thought you crybabies wanted "historical accuracy." Now that your going to get it, you're going to cry more.

[PRIMORDUS]

It's past the point of retarded, everyone seems forced to do this bullshit now in games. 😑

[Barlos]

Hell no. A good game or film is secondary now to the agenda and the 'message'.

It's not enough to be simply entertained these days, there has to be an overarching real world narrative. I mean look at Dr Who as a recent example. Disney have completely destroyed it all in the name of 'diversity'.

[senorfartcushion]

You sound like you don't have a very active sex life ,😅

[CrimsonWing69]

Are you projecting? 😝

[senorfartcushion]

It's the only thing that explains the incel crap. They can't simply be angry virgins who don't get any, so then a lack of a sex life i.e. a dad of three or something, is also a good additional explanation. They're either lonely and don't get any or too busy to get any. There's a horrible news for sexual control with incels, and they're angry because they simply aren't the right people to achieve that control. They're weaker animals.

[notachance]

dude’s too busy commenting on other people’s sex life to actually stay on topic.

That or he’s angry but didn’t have half the brain needed to refute back so he went for the classic ad hominem fallacy.

[senorfartcushion]

Notachance

It's a fact that remains true. The only way it can't be true is if humans were not greedy and heavily reliant on procreation.

Your username is fitting.

[CrimsonWing69]

dude, let’s be real, you’re on a video game news site going into the comments section and taking time out of your life to go to war with people you think don’t f*ck. You sound as much of a virgin as any incel does.

Let’s be real, bub you’re just as pathetic as the rest of them. Anyone who would look at this who doesn’t waste their time on a video game news site or video games in general probably thinks the only thing you f*ck is your crusty ass pillow.

C’mon, man. Anyone who f*cks doesn’t immediately go into a comment section claiming others have no sex life. It’s just one of those things if you are getting your d*ck wet. It just comes off like you’re projecting in hopes to god nobody figures out you can’t get any, so you try to flex, even though you’re completely full of sh*t.

I mean, that’s the only thing that makes sense to me 😅.

[senorfartcushion]

I'm engaged without children - I'm doing just fine.

This is just nerd sites now. Users are just so angry and for basically the same reasons. Most people go through phases with this type of stuff but it's scary seeing the same attitudes being regurgitated over and over again. From what I've seen it's a strange mix of sexual frustration, lack of proper financing and the need to have 100% control over both so that they aren't taken away from the users.

[CrimsonWing69]

@fartcushion

Look, man, people are allowed to have opinions and show frustration with stuff. It has no bearing on them not getting sex or not making money.

I have no idea how people commenting on being tired of hearing about SJW sh*t being shown in the spotlight like some carnival sideshow where publishers are wanting some pat on the back for means they’re financially unstable and don’t have a sexual relationship.

What, are you on the spectrum? Like how do you come to that conclusion and make multiple responses to the discourse with “virgin alert” or “you need to have sex?” That right there is kind of sus to me.

I don’t know in what world you lived in where this hasn’t been a nerd site, but people are allowed to comment their thoughts on things and still have relationships. You’re just as much of a nerd as everyone in here.

[badkolo]

no more. please just stop

[darthv72]

Is that genuinely a selling point for people?

[RpgSama]

They sure as hell want to see if it is, time and time and time again.

[VincentVanBro]

You have to understand they’re incapable of writing a good story so this is the best they could come up with

[CobraKai]

No. It’s not.

[thorstein]

Well, after last weeks crying about historical accuracy. Now Ubi days, " Oh, okay, historical accuracy: here you go."

Now you're saying you don't want the accuracy? Can you guys just make up your minds?

[notatallsurprisinggg]

It's a genuine click-bait snippet to rile up people like you to push traffic.

[JunonZanon]

Was Feudal Japan really that inclusive?

[lodossrage]

You'd be shocked. But yeah, in the feudal era they very much were.

[Christopher]

Very.

[mudakoshaka]

For men, yes. Lesbianism wasn’t as inclusive

[JunonZanon]

That's pretty interesting. Do you know if the same holds in Japanese society?

[mudakoshaka]

@JunonZanon Can't say about Japanese society today. But just like most other ancient cultures, the men (especially upper-class men) would engage in activities that were frowned upon or prohibited in society. Women would not do such things as they were expected to give birth and raise the children. Of course secret relationships would probably happen between women. There are parts of the world today that have this patriarchal system where women hardly ever leave the home but the men are out living their lives and some drink alcohol when it's illegal and have sex with other men when it's forbidden.

[Inverno]

Gotta get them brownie points. Now don't get me wrong homosexuality was alive and kicking in Japan during those days, and I've seen anime that have shown exactly that and been fine with it. I'm just questioning why this has to be announced before hand?

[lodossrage]

They were probably hoping to get all the whiners and complainers out of the way now in hopes that they'll tire themselves out by time the game releases. I doubt that'll work but that's the only thing I can think of

[Christopher]

So complainers can complain now and not when they buy the game and are surprised that it's historically accurate. Essentially, they're saying if you don't like that stuff, don't buy it. Of course, most ignorantly claim it's not historically accurate instead of just admitting they don't like that stuff.

[Inverno]

It's more fun to catch em by surprise imo, but I guess it also doesn't give em a reason to review bomb if they know in advance. Not that they won't talk about through and well after release.

[Barlos]

That's fine, I won't buy it, and regardless of the supposed high number of pre orders, I suspect many others won't buy it either.

[helicoptergirl]

In the Viking Assassin's Creed you could also have different relationship with men or women. So I don't know why this is so different in this Assassin's Creed. Lots of different types of RPG's let you choose differeent relationships. They don't force you. You can tell anyone that makes a pass at you to go kick rocks. People overreacting here

[Christopher]

***In the Viking Assassin's Creed you could also have different relationship with men or women. So I don't know why this is so different in this Assassin's Creed.***

It's the anti-woke and anti-DEI movement that is fostered on Twitter and the like. Any element of an LGBTQ or racial diversity related element is seen as problematic and an attempt to rewrite history, censor, yadda yadda yadda.

The biggest problem is that gaming journalists are expanding their platform by reporting on them at all. Journalists are idiots and in their drive to find something to write about only help to spread the things about which they complain.

[thorstein]

@heligirl

Well said. And that's the problem for most of the complainers. They're males and are afraid someone might make a pass at them.

Women have to deal with men looking at them and hitting on them and know how to deal with it.

These people are suddenly vulnerable and don't know how to deal with it. It threatens their manhood.

I'm straight, white, and male. I've been hit on by men. It doesn't bother me like it does these insecure little man-children. Why would it?

[Huey_My_D_Long]

Honestly I'm just gonna start avoid these posts but I'm grateful that some people are calling out these asshats for dogwhistling.
I just don't have the patience anymore.

[mudakoshaka]

It was for men. For women, the other protagonist, it was not. So everyone who is trying to say that feudal Japan was inclusive are full of malarkey. It was only common for the upper-class

[VincentVanBro]

Truly a hilarious way of wording something that should be self evident

[Evan_Beezy]

I know they’re getting wet to celebrate making a big masculine black dude do some gay shi

[Hofstaderman]

Geisha.....Gaysha

[Psychonaut85]

I don’t care what a character’s sexuality is if the story and game are good. It’s just that, does anyone honestly think this is genuine, Ubisoft and the other big companies routinely abuse and mistreat their employees but we’re supposed to believe they give a genuine fuck about diversity. I’m 100% in favor of diversity but this is classic virtue signaling.

[Skuletor]

They did the same thing in Odyssey. I can't remember if Valhalla did, I couldn't be bothered finishing that bloated mess of a game.

[BillyCrystals]

I'm attracted to e-girls and goth chicks myself

[RhinoGamer88]

Dear Lord...do we even need this in AC games?!

[TheColbertinator]

Japanese culture was very frisky especially compared to the dogmatic hardline Catholic cultures of the Europeans in the 1600s which regarded homosexuality and multiple sexual partnerships as serious crimes. Interestingly enough they banned homosexuality shortly during the Meiji Restoration because of "western influence". History is full of ironies.

[PaleMoonDeath]

Cringe tbh.

[HankHill]

This game is a dumpster fire.

[ROCKY28]

UBI IS SOFT !

[Tzuno]

At this point i wouldn't be surprised if this game turns in to a hentai :)

[SimpleDad]

IGN: it's got something for everyone 7/10

[garos82]

when you run out of ideas and talent , this is what you get. i doubt even lgbt people want to deal with this nonsense in a feudal japan based samurai game

[Profchaos]

Fudel Japan... like warm non binary apple pie

[DiRtY]

So glad that this is their focus instead of gameplay, visuals or atmosphere.

[Chard]

Did people forget that Ubi don’t even make good games to begin with?

[Gameseeker_Frampt]

I like how all the bigots are offended by something included in a game where the main quote is "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." I also don't doubt that these same people were playing as Femshep and hooking up with Liara.

As for historical accuracy, do you actually think homosexuality is something new? If so, how do you explain evangelicals constantly saying that the Bible - written over 1,000 years ago- is filled with passages denouncing homosexuality?

Why get upset about the always online and $129 cost when you can whine about a black samurai who may be gay?

[Pyrofire95]

Does this sway a single purchase? I don't think there's much reason to talk about it ahead of time. It just comes off as pandering without any context.

[RiseNShine]

Didn't expect anything different, on AC Valhalla a viking lesbian general lead her troops while men where cleaning the houses, we all know historical accuracy is Ubisoft greatest strength.

[Christopher]

You do know you choose to play male or female as well as who you are attracted to, right?

[RiseNShine]

The character i mention exists in the game no matter who you decide to have a relation with, specifically you hear that dialogue before the big battle with all the allies from the different counties you've been gathering, and i don't think that character ever existed in the real world tbh, because we would have heard about her a million times at this point if a female lesbian general led her army to battle, she would be a heroine among the LGTB population.

[Christopher]

***because we would have heard about her a million times at this point if a female lesbian general led her army to battle***

I mean, living a homosexual life is actually quite new and wasn't common in the old age. Much like how gay Roman Generals didn't advance LGBT rights for men, why would it do as such for women? The focus in those old days weren't on sexuality, but propagation for survival. But people were still partaking of what they wanted.

https://sourcebooks.web.for...

[RiseNShine]

Because we know that homosexuality was common in Greece and even Socrates and Plato were lovers, because we know alexander the great had a male lover called Hefestion, and so many more in history, so i think that we would know of any great viking female general, which would be uncommon by itself, and then even more if she had female lovers, but we do not, so that's basically Ubisoft doing the LGBT treatment to viking history to improve their DEI score and grab some extra funding in exchange.

[EternalTitan]

That includes underage people?

[mudakoshaka]

Hell yeah! Why do you think the game is called shadows? Who lurks in the shadows waiting for an opportunity to abduct an underage person?

[H9]

I love how people think of sexual deviancy in Japan in the past in the same way they look at LGBT community now, it's absurd, it's so different in the same way that Japan have had Boy love and girl love as entertainment genre in manga for ages now but LGBT standards are different, there's a reason why when LGBT people read the old "inclusive" Japanese works they call it bigoted, same thing for the sengoku peroid, they treated it as deviancy and just did it anyway

[bunt-custardly]

Surely, there's more to the game than your sexual preferences? What a silly thing to focus on especially as they are usually an optional feature.

[Demetrius]

Nothing is new under the sun I'm sure back in those times in real life alot of horny shhi was going on 🤣 its funny tho cause I rarely use romance options in games I play, I knew they'd do this cause in valhalla the arc where you do the quest with the guy about the dying father, the son wanted to romance my male eivor I declined🤣🤣

[ElaBosak]

? All BioWare games did it. Baldur's Gate 3 did it. AC Odyssey did it. Not sure what's the issue exactly

This is standard RPG romance mechanics. Not sure why people are making it a big deal??

[TheSenorCheese]

Because when you think Assassin's Creed, you think romance!

[Gabrielmpf]

They advertise it as if it's a plus. To me, it's one more reason not to buy it. What a joke.

[Redgrave]

Can Ubisoft stop saying

[redknight80]

Phew....thank god this is clarified!

[anast]

Nice. Nothing wrong with love.

[SoLiD2007]

Who the F care ! We want to play as a Ninja.

[DustMan]

"Let's just hope that such a decision won't result in another round of backlash from some "fans" as we already have plenty of questionable opinions online regarding the game's black character Yasuke."

Did a little digging and there were indeed Black Samurai in Japan. Interestingly enough, only one white Samurai...Tom Cruise. I joke, but it's only recorded to have had one white Samurai.

What I don't like about the article is how he uses the word "fan." If this wasn't set in Feudal Japan then I don't think you get backlash about a Black man playing the protagonist. I mean. Put the shoe on the other foot. Would it of made sense to have a Japanese man as the main character of Assassins Creed Syndicate set in London in 1868?

Romancing characters...Just don't romance your opposite sex if you're not wanting to! Crisis averted lol.

[Redemption-64]

No body hates options more than gamers who hate options that hurt their feelings. I have never understood why some people get so so triggered over optional things in video games. The more options the better

[SDuck]

If this is a topic worth announcing in their eyes, it's enough of a "selling point" for me NOT to buy it and this is coming from someone currently replaying Odyssey and romancing everyone and everything I can

[northpaws]

What about get me excited with improved stealth mechanics and combat system instead?

[Cockney]

Woke