Xbox Boss Praises PS5 DualSense Controller - "I Applaud What They Did"

One of the most exciting next-generation innovations for Sony's PS5 is the DualSense controller. Its haptic feedback system and adaptive triggers can be fine-tuned by developers for a variety of purposes to make actions feel more realistic, and the controller has been largely praised by those who have used it. Xbox boss Phil Spencer is among those who are excited by the DualSense.

[jairusmonillas]

By the time Xbox copies DualSense, Sony will be releasing a much better and upgraded DualSense. lol

[russo121]

As always MS is a tech follower, they're not (and never were) an innovative company. Since DOS they're doing same old business, no risk taking, just let others do all the research, invest money and time, and then, simply make a similar copy and re-brand it as MS. IBM, Apple and Sony are used to their tactics.

OT - Since when Sony needs applause or comments from Mr. Phil? He's not focused in his business, maybe that's why they are always lagging.

[VenomUK]

Fair's fair, Phil Spencer is not saying this years after he's left the industry he is saying this at the time of the DualSense's launch! His competitor has innovated and he is going on record and applauding it, and considering the near universal praise from critics and public alike it would be wrong to downplay it. It demonstrates that Sony's mindset to push for the industry forward worked out here.

I think this is also an implicit sign that the next iteration of the Xbox controller may have some new features. The only question is will Microsoft wait until the next generation to launch it or release it sooner?

[Si-Fly]

They risked plenty bundling Kinect with every Xbox 😆

[Army_of_Darkness]

New Duel sense PSVR headset incoming!
If you get a headshot or a punch to the face, you gonna feel it bro!

[derek]

Phil is leading the way in useless "videogame industry " talk. Lol

[Zeke68]

As usual, Phil talks while Sony delivers. Nothing has changed.

[DJStotty]

"As always MS is a tech follower"

Yes, because they are a software company. Console & controller technology is not their forte.

That is why Sony had a hand in Minidisk, Blu-ray etc as they are primarily a hardware company.

[Rocketisleague]

Pretty funny considering Sony spent an entire 2 gens catching up with Xbox Live, you can thank MS for the quality of PSN today.

Both companies take risks. Some work out(Haptic, Xbox Live, gamespass), some don't(PS Move, PSVR, Kinect, CELL processor). Haptic controller isn't such a step forward as PS Move, PSVR, Kinect, CELL -- If they had worked. But the bigger the risk the bigger the risk. Haptics are a natural progression. Not much risk there, unless they end up breaking very easily..lets find out. Some risks cause a huge loss of sales in some gens - ie: Ps3's shenanigans allowed Xbox 360 to basically equal its overall sales that gen.

Xbox One and kinects failings allowed Ps4 to dominate that gen.

Im a user of PS Now too. Would much rather game pass than it tbh. But alas, I ain't getting an Xbox due to, well video games. It all depends on bethesda if I get an Xbox at all this gen.

[darthv72]

I really like the DS but if Sony were to make one with offset sticks then it would be perfect. If MS decides to copy that in their own (offset) style then so be. I wont complain. The newer XB pad may not have gotten big changes but like people say... if it aint broke, why fix it.

@PS, symmetrical hands are designed to do asymmetrical tasks. Nobody uses both their hands the same way. Even an ambidextrous person uses them differently.

[PS-Gamer-1986]

Offset sticks are for gamers with asymmetrical hands smh.

[Atticus_finch]

@Darth "symmetrical hands are designed to do asymmetrical tasks."
But my thumbs are designed and can do symmetrical tasks.
But I get it dude you have to justify you Xbox somehow but stop making bad arguments.

[RgR]

Having used both controllers extensively. There is little difference.

The xbox controller has always been more comfortable for me and that is my preference.

I've yet to use the newer controllers and i can't wait to see all the improvements on the dual sense perhaps it'll become my most comfortable controller from now on

But to say that hands nonsense is to not actually see what your hands are doing when using wither controller. If you actually look at yourself using the dual sense you'll soon see that your hands are not doing the same thing. The thumbs are moving in different directions and moving up towards the buttons or road in different direction as well.

[darthv72]

@RGR... the whole hand thing is nonsense. Thats why whenever I see people post that your hands are symmetrical blah blah blah I know not to take them seriously. Its all really personal preference but some get triggered over it for some reason.

[SmokinAces]

Why do the sticks need to be offset, whats so much better about them being offset? This gripe is lame and just an excuse to have an ecxuse

[AndrewM]

The problem, with all of this darth, and don't pretend not to notice, is you said the dual sense would be perfect with offset sticks. The part you didn't say...is for you. Your making a factual statement about all controllers, which is so stupid. But you would avoid all of it if you just said for you. It would be perfect for you. You think your such a clever troll, but your not. Speak for yourself not everyone.

[darthv72]

Andrew, you are right. I am speaking for myself. In fact we all speak for ourselves so even if someone doesnt specify... it is implied.

[AndrewM]

No its not. Words have meaning use them right. Stop with your trolling.

[Daeloki]

The difference with the positioning of the left stick between PS and Xbox is minimal IMO. Sure, I'm more comfortable with PS positioning, but that's just because I've played just with PS controller for the past 6 years. If I picked up an Xbox controller today, it would still feel comfortable using it. It really comes down to personal preference in the end.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

@Darth
No offense, but that comment makes absolutely no sense. Your left hand and right hand aren't offset. I have no idea why you said that.

@RgR

I have used both and the asymmetrical sticks cause my left thumb to get cramps. It's not natural for your thumbs to be constantly extended. Even when relaxed your thumbs are slightly curved/retracted. I compare that too holding your hands above your head continuously or constantly standing on one leg. Both are unnatural positions.

[thornintheside]

@AndrewM

im going to have to disagree and say that is is implied. Otherwise you should have written

"No its not in my opinion. I my opinion words have meaning use them right. In my opinion you should Stop with your trolling."

it's just to cumbersome.

As for the layout, i prefer the assymetrical layout in games where movement is controlled by the left stick. Most of the movement I seem to do is holding the stick up(moving forward), and it's just more relaxing with a stretched thumb in relation to a bent thumb. However on the DS4 i just have the stick in the thumbs joint crease, If i have to hold the stick in a certain position for some time, it's no biggie.

[IcedOmega13]

If sony releases a good driver support for pc and a chat pad I would be all over it.

[UnSelf]

59 fanboys just killed themselves over this praise. They dont know how to function if video game companies arent fighting

[jakseth]

after the failure of kinect and media home center. Microsoft got very conservative.

i also believe the shitty technology behind kinect 1 killed the potential of it. Kinect 2 was actually super fast and precise but it was too late.

[Daeloki]

That's your take from the article? It's literally about Spencer praising Dualsense. And who cares if they copy it? It's a really cool controller, and I wish my friends who prefer Xbox get to experience a similar controller too at some point.

[Daeloki]

Soggyfalcon, stop looking for conflict that isn't there.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

I'm just wondering why he keeps saying Gamepass is innovative when PS Now came out 3 years before? Anyway, we all know Xbox has never innovated anything. They always play the "wait and see" strategy. If it's successful, they'll copy it. If not well Halo, Gears, Forza.

[AmUnRa]

Microsoft wil release some type of the same technology on the Xbox elite controller for $160....

[shadowT]

DualSense is a real step forward.

[ArchangelMike]

I just hope Sony incentivises Dacvd to use the Dualsense. We've had sixaxis motion controls, that were a thing when the PS3 launhc., That only really got used in a handful of titles; to be fair it was abit janky and imprecise. Then we have the touch pad on the Dualshock4, which again barely got used for much in games.

[potatoseal]

But they're a bit differnt because you had to actually 'do something' to get them to work. You had to touch the touch pad. You had to rotate the controller.

But with this, the user doesn't have to do anything. They just have to play the game. Devs will implement this way more because they don't have to create any situation outside of the normal gameplay mechanics to accomodate the touch-pad or sixaxis. They just have to make the game they want and with the controls they want, and then after, add in the specialised haptics etc etc.

[solideagle]

I think days gone was pretty good with swipe right/down/left/up to open map/skills/forgot/quests I thought JRPGs could use this rather triangle/ go to menu then R1/L1...

[Thundercat77]

Phil Spencer has no choice but to praise the Dualsense. It has been critically acclaimed a a true next Gen controller full with innovation.

Xbox did nothing with its controller and UI. It is a shame really. I am pretty sure Ms is already working on copying the Dualsense. Is a massive PS5 advantage.

[alb1899]

He has options. He can say nothing if he wants and nothing happens if he decides to do so.

[mechethegoat]

on the UI they'll for sure pass PS up on. But in terms of controllers helll no.

[NEXUS-6]

Nope - The PS5 UI and functionality destroys whatever ms has recycled from xbox one.

The standout for me and my mates is share screen - that's how you do a next gen feature.

[solideagle]

Xbox is still selling very well, MS must be happy that they did nothing innovative and everything is sold out. 2021/2022 they will show games and everyone will forget controller/UI...I think MS is in a strong position in my humble opinion

[CrimsonWing69]

I’m kind of tired of seeing this company applaud other companies for doing things better. Like Spider-Man sells gangbusters and Microsoft tweets out congratulations. Why don’t you start getting a clue and follow up? The whole “we’re a team player” is pretty eye roll inducing.

[thesoftware730]

Yup, Because fanboy BS and bickering like a-holes is the way to go.

good sportsmanship is so lame.

[thesoftware730]

@ Zero

See, went right over your head because you want to push a fanboy narrative.

We are talking about him giving kudos to Sony for a great controller...you do know what sportsmanship means right?

[RgR]

Interesting to be such a sport with non competitors...
You show sportsmanship when you're in a competition together. But Phil has stated that they're not competing...soooo it's just silly compliments to try to be a part of the dual sense conversation.

[Atom666]

That's such an awful take. I'm rolling my eyes at how professionalism triggers you guys so much.

It's one industry. The little fanboy fights are beyond ignorant.

[CrimsonWing69]

Look man, if Burger King tweeted out congratulations on a new McDonald's sandwich I'd roll my eyes at that, too. It has nothing to do with fanboyism, this is a direct move to gain a favorable reaction from the public. What I want is for MS to step up and start doing things like making exclusives on the level of Sony's, make a controller with evolved haptics technology/adaptive triggers, support VR, etc.

What gets to me is them still sitting parked at the starting line, when Sony crosses the finish line and then MS tweeting out "congratulations" to Sony. We need the competition because that's how we get better products and guess what, consumers win because of it. I know, crazy right? Congratulations on your comment, btw.

[Atom666]

The fast food industry has been hit hard by Covid. Burger King literally encouraged people to go to McDonald's to help support the whole industry. Professionalism has its place.

You won't find it in the console wars where you assuredly think all of these guys should remain locked into 100%. But you will find it in the people involved.

It's not the execs or devs driving this toxicity. It's "fans" with insecurities. Full stop.

Spencer gives an interview and honest response and you guys trip over yourselves to find the fanboy spin. Mean while, the dude is getting one of the largest corporations in the world to cut billion dollar checks in support of this industry and Xbox.

But he talks about Sony's controller...oh no!!!

GTFOH.

[CrimsonWing69]

It's a PR move and still pretty eye roll inducing.

[The Wood]

'It's not the execs or devs driving this toxicity. It's "fans" with insecurities. Full stop.'

~Aaron Greenberg has left the chatroom~
~Microsoft and Sony's PR teams have also left the chatroom~

[Atom666]

It's an hour long podcast that covers a gambit of topics, technical details, and insight.

You read the headline and sputtered some fanboy nonsense. Try to argue it if you want, but we both know what's up.

Gaming is infinitely more fun when you don't devote hours of your life to shilling out to a box. Take that advice or don't. I really don't give two shits.

[CrimsonWing69]

Right, because this is only the first time they’ve done this...

[Sitdown]

You could just ignore the articles, in the grand scheme of things, it's really not that often. And if asked a direct question about certain things, how would you prefer they respond?

[CrimsonWing69]

They could say, oh I don’t know, maybe something like, “It’s impressive tech and giving us ideas on what to bring to our consumers that will push their gaming experiences further.”

[Sitdown]

You do know that's still praising right?

[Daeloki]

I mean sure, competition is good, but I personally prefer seeing the positive interaction between MS and Sony, rather than the weird bickering certain "fanboys" seem to be pushing.

[CrimsonWing69]

You get fanboys with anything. I really don’t understand how this spiraled into a fanboy debate. My point was that the whole congratulations whenever Sony does something good just seems, I don’t know if this is the right word to use, disingenuous. Mostly, because MS isn’t doing anything (yet) that’s hitting it out of the park like Sony has been doing. So, it feels more like a PR move especially since it’s pushed out publicly.

Has Sony tweeted congratulations to MS, ever? Like I’m legit asking. This comes off more like, “Hey, aren’t we so good for congratulating our competitor?” You don’t see Sony saying, “Congratulations on acquiring a Bethesda!” I don’t know how to explain it other than it just seems like this moment for them trying to win over people by being a good “sportsman”. I’d rather them use those moments and start trying to beat Sony in this market so we get double the amazing games and other experiences whether it be VR, controller tech, etc.

I own both MS and Sony products, but I game on one waaaaay more than the other. Does that make me a fanboy? I dunno, but I’m definitely supporting one more than the other I can tell you that much and I wish MS made that choice harder to make.

[neomahi]

This guy's so full of it.

[2BlackBelt]

He is massively deluded, I used to have respect for Spencer until the XBSX (Xbox One 2) showed they only care about Game Pass and effectively Netflixing titles the majority of gamers have played.

[Toiletsteak]

The controller is amazing and so is the PS5, a true next gen experience!

[Elda]

He knows it's right to complement greatness.

[Father__Merrin]

Haptics will come to Xbox controller by next year

[Ron_Danger]

And they’ll call it by a different name and act like it’s some new thing they developed all on their own.

[ThinkThink]

Kind of like trophies

[Ron_Danger]

You’re right Thinkthink... I forgot how MS created the ability to unlock content in games by doing things in games...

🤦‍♂️

[Father__Merrin]

X-Force "a force to be reckoned with" the fans will lap it up bigtime

[crazyCoconuts]

Xbox's Future = Sony's Past

[thesoftware730]

Dude is a controller...really?

[Atticus_finch]

You're not wrong. Xbox spent 7 billion just compete with Sony.

[pingthing]

You shouldn't just assume that he's going to hate everything that isn't MS..
These people were gamers long before they were employed, so fair play to him. ....my buddy has a PS5, the triggers are cool, there I said it, and I didn't burst into flames. ( Much) :)

[Futureshark]

MS made to look like losers....again. Their lack of development and foresight has now been made clear to the world with what can be done, such as the Dualsense.
We will see an Xbox copy of it in about a year, probably tie in with the eventual Halo Infinite release if it ever happens.
"Oh we had ours in development for years, we were just waiting for the right moment to release it." Phil Spencer will say.

[giovonni]

Oh please! sorta like analog sticks, trophies, motion controls, and touch tracks. Let’s cut the rubbish already. If it’s successful every company will adopt it but let’s keep the same energy when Sony does the same.

[waverider]

Its a next gen gamepad . Sony did the right move to spend on the evolution of dualshock. It will make for a better experience on games.

[ClayRules2012]

They definitely did. Love and appreciate what they’ve done with the DualSense!

[TheEnigma313]

I bought a dualsense but don’t have a ps5 yet. Is it really that much of a game changer? I want to experience it.

[Ron_Danger]

Yes. Especially since the amount of feedback/ resistance is completely up to the devs. It’s not just like an on/ off setting.

The different guns in Borderlands 3 have different trigger pulls depending on gun type and manufacturer.
In Astrobot, when you pick up the bow, the tension builds as you pull the trigger. The surfaces also have different feedback within the controller when you walk on different surfaces which is further enhanced when combined with the subtle sound effects the controller outputs.

[Atticus_finch]

Astrobot will bring so many smiles to your face.

[medman]

The dualsense is fantastic. I managed to get a ps5 and series x, and without a doubt it's the first time I can say the playstation controller is hands down better than the xbox controller. I have more ability to grip the ps5 controller lower on the handles than the xbox controller, while still having perfectly comfortable access to the L1 R1 buttons, more comfortably than on the series x controller. The haptics on the ps5 controller are another level that will really impact gameplay in many titles, provided it's supported by not just Sony first party titles...early results are promising in 3rd party games though so hopefully that continues.

One of the areas where the xbox controller has the advantage is the grip it provides on the back of the controller.....if the ps5 controller had a more tactile area in the back, it would be damn near a perfect controller. I find my hands getting sweatier on the ps5 controller than I did on the ps4 controller...with the ps4 controller I never had to take my hands off of it to wipe them on my pants leg, but I find myself doing that with the dualsense for some reason. The 2nd area where I personally feel the series x controller is better is the actual thumbsticks, the xbox has a more tactile feel there as well. I had to put grippier thumbstick covers on my ps4 controllers, and I have done the same with my ps5 controllers after testing out the stock sticks in a few gaming sessions.

I've never had a preference or cared about offset or not offset sticks, so that is not a factor for me. I'm comfortable playing any type game with either stick layout.

[thesoftware730]

This is nuts, Sony makes a nice controller which by no means is the end all be all, and then we get these insane comments. I have a PS5 and I like the controller, but do you guys for real, for real think that Sony will dominate because of the controller? I can guarantee that if MS manage to somehow have better games and Sony games somehow fall of, no one will give a shit about the controller.

I know its part of the experience but wow.

[giovonni]

Right, we are gonna have to revisit once the hype dies down. Cause when ps3s controller was absent of anything innovative that didn’t stop it from dominating. Now Sony is all of a sudden the mover of innovative gaming, when yet they are guilty of stealing too, don’t let me speak on analog sticks, or motion controls. I mean Sheesh

[zarbor]

Hey Phil Spencer, haven't you noticed you are always praising your competitors for doing something great. Yet you and your Xbox team get no such praises? Ever wonder why? Dude, its embarrassing. Totally ******* embarrassing.

Oh that's right, you don't believe in competitors as they continue to view as such. Brilliant.

[Fraggle1987]

You just know that they regret not updating the controller for this gen.

They have been far too Conservative with the new upgrades

[waverider]

Dude, the xbox one sold very well in the first month and just in 13 countries. Made 3 billions in 3days. Being sold out is good but you only have Just 1.2 or 1.4 million consoles available.... When they reveal the console at december of 2019....

[Bender6502]

Poor ol' Phil. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Almost anyone else praises PS5 get thumbs up, Phil does the same well...
Come on guys, It's almost to the point of demonising someone for doing a great job. That's not healthy.

[UnbreakableAlex]

I’d chose better ergonomics over adaptive gimmicks every day.

[Psychonaut85]

You’d think Phil would be tired of congratulating Sony by now.

[Jamaicangmr]

Translation;
Xbox Elite v3 incoming with haptic feedback and adaptive triggers calls Xbox immersion triggers or some knock off crap.

[PhantomX02]

I applaud what they did....Now its time to steal it

[JayRyu]

Yes MS might make add that to the Elite controller 3!

Sony is watch what MS is doing and vice versa. Sony working on an answer to game pass with playstation collection first and upgrading PSNow being their first step

[Artemidorus]

Stop applauding and get improving.

[DJStotty]

Phil has applauded Sony a few times, always praises the console launches etc.

To be honest, i do not think Microsoft can copy the tech, haven't Sony patented the dualsense tech? I mean granted they can do it a different way to get similar results to avoid copyright claims etc. But i just can not see Microsoft wanting to invest in the relevant R&D.

They still have not released a VR headset, so i do not see them releasing a copy of the dualsense.

[gold_drake]

spencer is like the orange man

"i applaud them for what they did, buuuuuut we would have done a tremendous job, a tremendous job, just look at what we've created, id say we've done a much better job"

image him saying that with the orange mans voice haha