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Demon's Souls Remake is the Best Launch Title Ever

Alex & Mike have completed the Demon's Souls remake and are here to gush to you about how, with this incredible game, PS5 comes barreling out of the gate with the best console launch of all time. This is the same genre-inventing epic we fell in love with eleven years and one month ago, with a fresh visual interpretation courtesy of Bluepoint. Also featuring a brief discussion of the lightning fast hardware and fine user interface of our new PS5s. Cheers to next gen and the Soulsfam.

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shadowhaxor1247d ago

I wouldn't say the best, but it's up there.

Babadook71246d ago

It’s perhaps the best PlayStation launch title. And combined with Miles and Astro, the best PlayStation launch lineup in general. I would give Nintendo consideration for best launch game.

GamerRN1246d ago

I think I like MM Spiderman better... More original. DS feels like Ryse to me. Flabby with little substance.

potatoseal1246d ago

@ GamerRN

Yuu just embarrassed yourself with you pathetic attempt to compare Ryse to Demon's Souls. You obviously have no freakin idea what you're even talking about.

Dragonscale1246d ago

@gamerRN, flabby with little substance sounds like the new xbone tbh.

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Petebloodyonion1246d ago

Here's a simple way to prove that concept
wait a couple years and see if Demon soul is still among the top best seller of the console then we'll talk
Now go see Zelda on the Switch (a game that I feel a bit overrated) and just check that it's still selling today
or you could go see Mario 64 that basically define how to play a 3d platform game even today.
I could also point to Halo that became Xbox backbone.
And lastly I could just put the nail in the coffin with Wii Sport
But what I will agree that its probably Sony's best launch title of all time and it's a great remake of a great game

sinspirit1246d ago

So, CoD is the best shooter ever? Not arguing which games quality is better or comparing how they age. But, sales isn't the only metric for being considered the best.

Petebloodyonion1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

Unfortunately despite the hate COD is the best shooter ever
Sorry but almost every modern trope in a shooter is basically from COD.
The only reason that Cod isn't glorified is because of the name Activision
if Cod had been developed by Sony Studio, MS, or Nintendo the game would already get some GOTY, some perfect scores from Gamespot and IGN, and it would be praised just like every copy and paste 2d Mario formula that Nintendo made or Uncharted/Tlou formula.

Perhaps ppl something should wonder how come the game is selling year after year at full price when there are cheaper options around.

GreenDragonCVR1246d ago

In our opinion, there are prob more examples than not of the most popular/profitable things being the most amorphous, effortless & worst! Fortnite, opiates, military-industrial complex, two and a half men?

Our usage of "best" pertains here not to sales, but to the integrity of the work! DeS is an astounding game and feat of world building, even amongst Miyazaki's other games. Hard to feel that (for example) on your 80th shrine in BotW, shaking your controller to move a ball around in a throw away puzzle, that any other recent "masterpiece" is nearly as good. DeS has an inner consistency and focus that defined a genre and that games like BotW ended up riffing on years later, mythopoetic worldbuilding to make Dante and Homer blush. Cheers everyone thanks for your time and comments!

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GreenDragonCVR1246d ago

In our opinion DeS was better than every single game you list back when it sold very few copies on ps3. Wii sports? Common buddy. Crack cocaine probably sells better every year than every game on earth, don't make it good.

Petebloodyonion1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

"Our usage of "best" pertains here not to sales, but to the integrity of the work! "

Now I won't compare DeS to Zelda Botw because I for one, would agree with you, and feel that if the game had made by Ubisoft instead of Nintendo it would be another 7/10 games amongst other but I will easily compare it to Wii sports

my moto int about the integrity of the work but the contribution and what it brought to the industry
Demon Souls Ps5 brought nice graphics to fans of the game and Diehard video game players that see into the game a reason to buy a PS5 (wow next-gen graphics).

On the other hand, Wii Sports brought video games to ppl who don't play often video games, I can easily give the remote to any ppl and they will instantly know how to play the game and have a good time.
The game helped residents in the senior house, was used in some medical treatment, and sold the concept of motion control gaming.
And that's what Wii sports brought to the table as a launch title (and for many the reason to buy the console).

jwillj2k41246d ago

What an embarrassing comment using sales to judges the quality of a game.

Petebloodyonion1246d ago

So suddenly sales overtime shouldn't be a measure to validate the quality of a game over time?
Let's see a crapy game like:
- Super Mario World is the number #1 selling game on Snes (22 million)
- Mario 64 # 1 game selling on N64 (12 million)

And I could also point that Super Mario world is often ranked in the top 5 games of all times in the top 100 by various media.
https://www.ign.com/lists/t...
https://www.popularmechanic...
https://www.slantmagazine.c...

How come Demon soul on Ps3 is never ranked on this list?

GreenDragonCVR1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

@billybrain "imo" is a nice way to preface a paragraph, but we do not argue that souls is merely "subjectievly" better, and utterly deny that "subjective" measures are the only ones that exist to judge art. While we may or may not "enjoy" or "have fun with" the same things (distinctions a game like DeS proves are kinda silly), we argue that mechanically-systemically & as gestures of world-building, Miyazaki games have no peer. Souls is like a giant tiger: it may eat and bite you, but undeniably beautiful, apex inhabitant of its ecological niche. Cheers buddy! (Edited for grammar)

CrimsonWing691246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

I don’t think game sales equate to how objectively good a game is. There’s some amazing games that don’t sell well and there’s some serious garbage that sells extremely well.

Petebloodyonion1246d ago

I agree with you in a way but how do you measure the quality of a game?
Your opinion vs mine?
Sales at least are the cumulations of the ppl voting with their wallets and usually, top-selling games of all time are far from crap (despite our personal taste)
Super Mario world best selling games of all time on the Snes.
Mario 64, best selling game on N64.
GTA 5 is far from a bad game.

CrimsonWing691246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

@Petebloodyonion

I guess if you're going that route there's no way to measure the quality of a game because it's subjective.
You could possibly say reviews are an indicative way to measure quality, but then again, it's others' opinion.

I mean aren't Madden games in the top NPDs on launch? All I ever hear is how bad those games are.
So, sales isn't an accurate representation of a games quality, that's really my only point.
Sure, there's good games that are in the top NPDs, but for arguments sake I wouldn't say that's the indicator for a game's quality.

Petebloodyonion1246d ago

"I mean aren't Madden games in the top NPDs on launch? All I ever hear is how bad those games are."
Are they bad because they are bad or they are bad because of the elitism of the gaming community that will deem bad something the moment it's mainstream and popular?

Do you know a better Football (or other EA sports) game series to play or to suggest?
Just like I said about COD, how come everybody tries to emulate and copy Cod mechanisms and tropes if the game is average? (ADS, streak kill, regenerative health, lvl up, perks, etc.)

CrimsonWing691246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

@Petebloodyonion

"Are they bad because they are bad or they are bad because of the elitism of the gaming community that will deem bad something the moment it's mainstream and popular?"

Well, from the many reviews and forum posts it seems like the consensus is it's just all around a bad game.

"Just like I said about COD, how come everybody tries to emulate and copy Cod mechanisms and tropes if the game is average? (ADS, streak kill, regenerative health, lvl up, perks, etc.)"

People are creatures of habit. How many people whine about how bad COD MP is, but still play it? I think it's due to it just being "COD" and it's like junk food gaming. Like, if Halo sucked people would still play it because it's Halo.

But again the argument isn't whether COD is a bad game or a good game since we've established it's impossible to determine that due to opinion, which in turn makes it impossible to argue that Demon's Souls isn't, in fact, the best launch title. I mean, after all, it's an opinion. The whole point of this is using sales as a barometer to gauge what is a good game is vs a bad game isn't accurate at all.

Take the October NPDs for example: Watch Dogs is number 3, yet metacritic scores are:

PS4: 70 with a 5.5 user score
PC: 74 with a 5.9 user score
Xbone: 76 with a 6.2 user score

Not exactly instilling confidence that it's a great game, yet it's the 3rd best selling game of that month.
The only reason I don't agree with the statement that sales indicate a good game from bad games is due to games that are good but don't sell. 2 examples just off the top of my head would be Okami and Viewtiful Joe, both fantastic games that sold poorly and led to a dev studio being shutdown.

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FlyGuyHung1246d ago

Really?
Halo (basically responsible for Xbox being a thing) and we're saying a remake is the best lauch title? Ok.
BoTW and Super Mario 64 also say hello.

I guess we're just living in a time where people think that anything new is the best thing ever until a couple years pass.

potatoseal1246d ago

Dry your tears. It's ok. BOTW and Super Mario 64 were amazing launch games also. But I agree with the author. Demon's Souls is the better one. I played Super Mario 64 at N64 launch and I played BoTW on Switch too.

Thinking back, I changed my mind. Maybe Super Mario 64 and Demon's Souls are on PAR as the best launch games ever. I don't think I can split them to be honest.

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Dragonopolis1246d ago

Actually having high quality launch titles is a good thing only raises the stakes when future games come. SONY and Nintendo arguably start with stronger launch titles than Microsoft; especially in first party titles.

Basically the stronger the launch titles the better of we will be when the console reaches maturity. How powerful the console is doesn't matter, since Nintendo seems to have survived all these years with the least powerful console the three.

Si-Fly1246d ago

Remember when Xbox launched with Halo, PGR and DOA3? They needed that kind of lineup for this gen.

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The best PS5 exclusives 2024

With so many PS5 exclusives to choose from, it can be a little overwhelming to pick which one to play. This is especially true for a new PlayStation gamer who has yet to experience the wonder of PlayStation-exclusive storytelling. So, here's KnowTechie's take on the best PS5 exclusives in 2024 and beyond

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Hereandthere3d ago

PlayStation is killing it with the exclusives this year. Exclusive wise, what has xbox released this year?

VersusDMC3d ago

They won't complain about Microsoft not releasing games here but put all their effort into saying that only first party counts. Games like Rebirth and Grandblue Relink don't count. Games published by Sony like Helldivers 2, Stellar Blade and Rise of the Ronin don't count because Sony don't own the studios.

It's some narrative building so for when Hellblade 2 come out they can say, seemingly without shame, that Microsoft is actually releasing first party games this year. And claim victory.🙃

Chevalier3d ago

Weird 1st party games didn't matter when Xbox had so little, but, now they're important again? Guess Ark 3, Stalker 2 don't count any more?

KyRo3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

ARK 3 doesn't exist and it's just a timed exclusive. It's also a game that a majority of the ARK player base doesn't want as it's a massive deviation from what people like about the original game

Abnor_Mal3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Honestly to me it doesn’t matter what they say, they are just finally getting a chance to say all the things PS fan(boy)s were saying to them for the past few years. Let them get that, they deserve a “win” for a change.

The new narrative is that suddenly first party games matter again when awhile ago they didn’t, but that was because they were struggling with the same three games with the occasional fourth or fifth. That games should be everywhere on all platforms since that’s whats happening to theirs. The consoles don’t matter just the ability to play anywhere. Whatever Xbox is doing Sony will soon follow.

They’re not moving the goalpost anymore, but rather just moving the whole damn stadium.

jwillj2k43d ago

Only a incel would care about who published what and who owns who.

If it’s not on the other consoles it’s an exclusive.

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Cacabunga3d ago

Killing what? Where are the 1st party games??
Stellar Blade and FF7 is what I’m seeing this year.. so shallow!!!!

andy853d ago

Doesn't really matter as long as they're great games. Baffles me why people put an emphasis on 1st party. They're still games you can't play anywhere else this year

Cacabunga2d ago

Andy

PS brand is my favorite because of their stellar first party software.. currently I see absolutely nothing to go crazy for..

CS72d ago

Nonsense.

PS1 and PS2 was built on great third party exclusives like FF, MGS, GTA & Tekken.

RonnySins3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Killing it my a$$! The 1st party is still MIA and no... Remakes and remasters don't count.

andy853d ago

I mean they literally do count. Imagine saying FF7 Rebirth doesn't count 😂

Tody_ZA3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

@Andy85 Don't forget the remakes for Demon's Souls and Shadow of the Colossus, two of the best PlayStation games around!

And beyond PlayStation, what about Resident Evil 2 and 4? RonnySins wins the award for dumbest opinion!

raWfodog3d ago

Of course I love the games I’ve played from PS but I don’t believe we need to limit it to ‘exclusive’ to acknowledge that Xbox will be releasing some good games this year also. In that same vein, I believe that Xbox diehards shouldn’t limit their acknowledgment of good PS games to 1st party. There are plenty of good games to go around for everybody.

Tacoboto3d ago

This is a Playstation article about Playstation games and your comment is about Xbox. Can't you just celebrate what PS has without dragging this into console war BS?

ChasterMies3d ago

I don’t think Microsoft is releasing games exclusively on Xbox anymore. They have some timed exclusives that release on Xbox first.

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Abear213d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Returnal, Astro Bot, and Ratchet made having it since day one worth it.

GT7 free updates and Spiderman 2 and others at 60fps have made this last year more than okay.

But yeah, it’s been dry lately. BG3 and third party have made great filler, but we ready for that SOCOM or Killzone announcement and some more 1st party goodness. Crossing fingers for Ghost of Tsushima 2 announcement this summer.

Didn’t know Helldivers was exclusive! Wtf is going on at Xbox that they can’t get these games, series s strikes again.

SonyStyled3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Sony owns the Helldivers IP. The first was a PS3/Vita/PC game. It was never an Xbox game that they could ‘get’ a decade ago. I’m not sure what the upset is with Xbox here

CS72d ago

Lol, how do you ignore Rebirth one of the best games ever made?

anast3d ago

Looks like they are on par with the previous gens. Solid games all around. Interestingly enough, we can't say they released a bad game yet this gen. Unlike the Quiet Man dustup.

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DefenderOfDoom23d ago

I actually do not mind if Marathon releases on multiple platforms . I just wish that Marathon has a dedicated single player campaign.

DaniMacYo3d ago

Helldivers 2 is exactly what gaming needed. I’m loving it.

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10 Hardest PS3 Games of All Time

You might not be able to believe this, but Dark Souls is a pretty tricky game on the PlayStation 3.

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The 7 Best Co-op Games on PS5

There's no better way to enjoy your PS5 than with friends, so here's our picks of the best co-op games on the console.

Cacabunga96d ago

For coop, get a used switch instead

jznrpg96d ago

I own a Switch and have never played co-op on it. I do play Elden Ring , Demons Souls and some other co/op games with my friends on PS5. Baldurs Gate 3 is the next game I’ll play co-op. Can’t do that on a Switch

Cacabunga95d ago

I was thinking for couch casual immediate fun.. not online coop games that require some adaptation.