After all the E3 2017 press briefings are over, many outlets and gamers like to argue about who won E3. Well, let’s examine some basic factors when it comes to “winning E3”. Who had the best games? Who had new reveals? Who had new hardware?
Why do you need a better PS5 when there aren’t any games that will utilise its power?
You technically don't "need" the ps5, ps4 or the ps3, lol. You don't need any videogame console, it isn't a necessity of life. If you want the best playstation console money can by, that would be the ps5 pro.
While the article is pessimistic and negative, can we agree that typically playstation hardware allowed experiences that no previous generation was able to deliver?
With the PS5 and Pro that's changed and its because its first party are having trouble making exclusives that harnesses the PS5 power. And with so few using the base PS5 to the max, the Pro just seems pointless in a way that no other major Playstation ever has.
Idk, you guys keep defending Sony, first it was covid, then chip shortages, then live service won't hold back single player games. Now here we are with barely any good first party games in sight and the defense continues.
Sony needs to get their head out of their arrogant rear and get back in touch with what gamers want. And it's not live service games and it's not a $700 PS5 pro to see more detailed bleachers in Ratchet and Clank.
And just to rest my case, when you are showing your most powerful system (PS5 Pro) using a last generation game (TLOU2) something is very very wrong.
I don't think you quite got it. This isn't the ps3 gen where the cell was difficult to use and there was a period of time where the console just was not being properly utilized. These consoles are on x86 architecture and are performing at or around the level of comparable PC's. Sure there's SSD stuff more 3rd party devs could do but this isn't going to result in a big graphical leap.
Drinking water proves you don't need a ps5 pro. Get a brita water filter
They could make games that PS4 couldn't handle. They've chosen not to. They did not want to abandon the huge existing PS4 console base. It is a shift in strategy from the past.
Why does a random remaster do that? There's going to be plenty of games that utilise it over the next 4 years. And plenty already released that will benefit from it. If you don't want one fine, but what's with all the nonsense bashing of it
Sony has been milking their fans with unnecessary remastered/remakes all generation. They bet their first party budgets on GaaS games and failed so to save themselves they're gonna milk their base with more of these....
Uhhh. I was going to write something but it's so tedious knowing that everybody will just rip me.
Who cares what internet people think of your thoughts... You think they're opinion is more righteous? Please.
There are over 8500 games that use dynamic resolution scaling and struggle to hold fps that out of the box will utilize its power.
Games are already lined up for patches and more games that haven't been announced yet will use it.
But of course talking about what it actually does won't get as many clicks.
"But of course talking about what it actually does won't get as many clicks."
That´s because nobody knows what it "actually does" in real world yet.
no
it adds to your opinion
it's doesn't prove anything
and even besides that, one game wouldn't prove that anyway
that's silly
Ads on Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S consoles are getting worse. Over time, Microsoft has been getting more and more aggressive with ad placement on the Xbox Series X|S. Invasive ads already clutter and ruin the Xbox Series X|S dashboard, something that has been annoying Xbox fans for a while. We also know that Microsoft is reportedly exploring a tier of Xbox Game Pass that will make players watch ads in order to play games. And this ties into what Microsoft revealed last year, which was that it was looking into ways to include ads in games, something Xbox fans threatened to boycott the brand over. In the face of public backlash, Xbox has done nothing to alleviate concerns of players, it's only doubled down.
If they did start putting ads into games that's when I'd be done. That's ridiculous.
They have been for decades.
Or do you mean, explicit ads that interrupt the game?
NFL 2K5 had the "Burger King Halftime Report."
BK paid them to put that in there. It's technically an ad.
Yeah. I mean ads ads, not really product placements. I don't really mind stuff like that if it fits into the logic of the world. Hell, even Fallout originally wanted Coka-Cola in the game but didn't work out, so they went with Nuka. There's ads on billboards in a lot of racing games. That stuff doesn't bother me.
I think if THAT’S your red line then you’re already lost. There shouldn’t be any ads on the console, at all.
Not at boot-up, not on the dash, not in the store, and not in the games.
It’s ridiculous.
I agree, adds shouldn't be in games, but what do you expect with xbox?
It's a dying platform and they recently spent $70Billion and they will never recoup that money , not unless they do something drastic and make huge changes.
Now with games going to ps5 , there is no reason to buy into xbox so they shot themselves in the foot.
I would expect adds to become even more common place then they already are.
@Whiz;
No, there shouldn’t be any ads in the store. Just the basic categories, like ‘new releases’, ‘demos’, ‘deals’, ‘categories’, etc. You shouldn’t be greeted by a huge Call of Duty banner every time you enter the store, or a ‘promoted’ post in every search-page, etc etc.
Microsoft's Tim Stuart, Sarah Bond and others have said they want to add x second of ads every x amount of time of game played. (I say x because they have said various times from every 30 minutes to 2 hours and various lengths of ads from 30 seconds to minutes)
Heck they already put ads in their games on Windows.
https://windowsreport.com/a...
People need to realize Microsoft has never cared about actual gaming, it's a means to make money and gain control, the more control they have the more obnoxious they can be. That's why they want PlayStation eliminated so badly that they were willing to spend 100 billion to control what games major publishers are putting on the platform, they are the major roadblock to their control.
I have said for years it's not Microsoft keeping PlayStation in check it's PlayStation keeping Microsoft in check.
The only reason why the xbone failed was because PlayStation offered another option. If PlayStation hadn't been there they would have ignored every single complaint and just forced what they wanted.
You only have to look at how unpopular so many decisions with Windows are yet they do them anyway regardless of complaints and as time goes on they force more and more unpopular things. (and the software gets more bloated and buggy)
“If they did start putting ads into games that's when I'd be done.”
Some games already have ads, but that’s besides the point. You’ve already accepted ads your Xbox. Microsoft’s job now is to get you to accept more.
Late... Microsoft have been using their games as an ad platform for decades... Xbox included: https://www.reuters.com/art...
Didn't this already cause a lot of debate in the Xbox community a few months ago? They are still moving forward with the idea?
The McDonald's ads must have made them a nice amount. MS don't care about the user base so why not just fill it with ads.
Imagine having to pay to play online and still getting ads shoved in your face. Consoles are cooked.
So let me get this straight. The writer is getting mad because MS is advertising Games? The very thing that MS sucks at doing which is advertising it's own games and third party? For a second he made it seem like a hot pockets ad would pop up when turning on the console. But it's video games that are popping up and are releasing soon.
Talk about about a none issue. Btw writer where's this "boycott" at? I don't see anyone on socials right now threatening to boycott, its simply all on your head. Especially, Especially if these ad are video games related and games that are releasing soon.
Imagine turning your pc on and before log on screen you see MS Word ad across your whole screen.
Hey it fine, right?
Talk about not knowing how to read good lord. They're advertising games not word or Doritos, or nothing like that.
Tell me which ones worse. Advertising games or something none game related?
Also read the article and you'll see what he's complaining about. Go ahead.
Replies(1)Being fine with ads on Xbox game related is the same as ads on PC Word related.
But, hey I learned a new term for this and it's called... Toxic Positivity...vity...vity
You're right how dare Xbox advertise video games on their video game console. Why's that a bad thing please explain. Go ahead, exactly just stay silent, the smartest thing you've done.
Positivity? No its called a severe lack of common sense and stupidity. Willful ignorance is the number one thing that gets me heated.
@natsu coping tf are you talking about. Read the article (if you know how to read) he's complaining about game Video game ads on a video game console.
"You're right how dare Xbox advertise video games on their video game console. Why's that a bad thing please explain."
A: people have been enjoying gaming for decades without adverts and we are all used to that.
B: Everyone hates ads.
C: It's an extremely slippery slope. If people start making excuses for and suggest they're willing to accept advertising in gaming then that will be exploited to ridiculous levels in the future.
Making excuses for Xbox's bad decisions is all the Xbox zombies ever do. Their console, brand and it's games have become synonymous with mediocrity.......unrecognisabl e from the excitement and quality they possesed in the past.
Yet their fanatical fans don't seem to care, so of course MS will continue pushing the boundaries with the crap like this. You can bet your ass that in the not too distant future they will definitely have ads popping up during your gamepass game....interrupting everything just like a youtube ad. But don't worry, I'm sure they will offer a more costly 'ad free' tier for you so it will be fine.....right.
Oh and something I also predict is that one day the ONLY way to play MS games will be through gamepass. MS has already dropped physical completely for the future and you won't be able to buy digital either.
Nope, if you want play e.g.COD you are going to be forced to subscrbe for it and it won't be cheap.....I'm calling it.
You're right let's not advertise any game related content while you're online on your console. Matter of fact let's get rid of the games section where new games are available to play so devs won't know that their game is out, or that your favorite game is available to download or in store shelves. If we're talking 360 type of ads where it was lots of none game related stuff y'all would have point big time. But getting pitchforks out over something that's game related is dumb. It's like going to a car club and getting mad that they're selling you car parts.
I would say do you hear y'all selves but no you don't, at all.
That's it, I'm the only one with a brain on here.
@charlie "Making excuses for Xbox's bad decisions is all the Xbox zombies ever do."
Seeing how you don't know what's happening or you never know what's going on especially in this article which congrats nobody else can read either because everyone's slow in here. Tell me where all the times I make excuses for Xbox go, I wanna know.
"Yet their fanatical fans don't seem to care, so of course MS will continue pushing the boundaries with the crap like this."
Advertising games on your console is bad now. I guess Nintendo and Sony are terrible to use that exact same logic.
"You can bet your ass that in the not too distant future they will definitely have ads popping up during your gamepass game....interrupting everything just like a youtube ad. But don't worry, I'm sure they will offer a more costly 'ad free' tier for you so it will be fine.....right"
MS was talking about an ad based GP tier at one point it might happen or it might not. This isn't what this articles about at all if only you did basic, simple, easy ass research such as reading the article. You'll know what's going on. So far it's all tinfoil hat that the article isn't even about. Read, if you don't how to read then get some that can read the article.
Lightening, I think it's you who is struggling to read.
Sure, we get it, you don't mind seeing adverts on the console as long as they're game related ads. Well many people don't want this. You pay for the system, you pay for the online and then youre greeted with ads at the menu. There is a time and place for them, and it's not when switching the console on.
Annoys the sh*t out of me when fC24 pushed the FC25 advert before you even get into the menu.
If you think all of that is okay, then you'll be the reason they take it a step further with none gaming ads or forced viewing trailers on boot up
Except it's not just game ads....I recall ads from places like McDonalds popping up, so what's the excuse for that then hmmmmm?
Also the only place that new games should be promoted on your console is in the damn store like Playstation does. If I'm interested in what's coming up I'll go and check out the pre-order section.
"Except it's not just game ads....I recall ads from places like McDonalds popping up, so what's the excuse for that then hmmmmm?"
Uh huh sure you did, you don't have an Xbox so how would you know? Show that proof?
Wait you actually read the article!? I didn't think it was possible on here. Finally someone on here did basic human function and its you of all ppl. I'm proud of you. I didn't think it was possible, I'm not joking either I really think it was possible. Take back what I said about you up top. Again good Job bro.
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Wait you actually don't have a brain!? I didn't think it was possible on here. Finally someone on here without basic human function and its you of all ppl. I'm proud of you. I didn't think it was possible, I'm not joking either I really thought it wasn't possible. Take back what I said about you up top. Again good Job bro.
So you can't refute what I said or prove what I said wrong got it. It's what happens when you lack basic fundamental reading skills and comprehension. Go back to grade school, you severely need it very, very, very badly. It's what happens when you have room temperature IQ kiddo do better next time (but you won't). You also won't learn your lesson. All you had to do what simply read the article, not a hard task at all. For you and many here it is of course.
Man I just easily embarrassed you.
There was a McDonald's advert sitting on peoples dashboards less than a month ago, or dont you care to see whats actually going on? Willfull ignorance is exactly what you are engaging in....
And they’re likely trying to recoup more of the $70B that they paid out for their acquisition.
Games Asylum: "Despite the popularity of The Karate Kid trilogy in the ‘80s, it didn’t gain anywhere near as many gaming adaptations as the likes of Back to the Future, Star Wars, and Indiana Jones. The first film saw a considerably rough entry on the NES, published by the notorious JLN, while the Amiga and Atari ST were blessed with a reasonably well received tie-in for the sequel. It seems that by the time the third film rolled around in 1989, attention had turned to the likes of Rambo, Terminator and Predator, with many early tie-ins for the Mega Drive being more violent and gung ho. It probably didn’t help that Part III was panned by movie goers either."
CRAZY.......not good crazy.
Coming from a shill Microsoft website, what else where you going to say? You have to say Microsoft won, because that's what pays your bills. If I want truth, or facts, I'll look elsewhere.
FYI Microsoft didn't win anything at E3 this year.
I don't think any company can "win" these conferences. You're going to like what you're going to like. I think both Sony and MS were reserved in a good way. On topic, I think MS delivered what they needed to: the games. I can't wait to play PUBg on console and Black Desert Online.
Great conference as always. Microsoft have lead the charge in console prowess and has very high leading support for there Xbox one X system. Launch exclusive such as Crackdown 3 and Forza 7 in 4K as well as updates to 30 titles such as Gears of War 4, Killer instinct , Forza Horizon 3, Halo wars 2 and Minecraft being patched in native 4K brings a surge of positive outlook for Xbox gamers.
Sea of thieves and State of decay 2 looked great and will be killer titles for early 2018.
I don't know how you say who "won" E3. It's like idiots grading the NFL draft. We'll know in a couple of years how well these shows went. I for one hope all to succeed whether it's a system I game on, or not. I hope all gamers enjoy their games and systems.
I thought MS's show was great and I'm looking forward to a ton of games coming up... It's funny, after a couple of days of the hater dust starting to settle. You're starting to see the positive responses to MS's show and positive feedback from the game demos. So much to be excited about!!