CD Projekt Explains Why The Witcher 3 Is Not 60fps On The PS4 And Xbox One

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt is perhaps one of the best looking games of this generation besides the likes of Ryse: Son of Rome, DriveClub and The Order: 1886.

[DarkOcelet]

I wish one day the developers make more options available in games on consoles. Just like Bioshock series and TLOU remastered, being able to shift between 30fps and 60fps was awesome.

If i am going for the first time for the story, i go with 30fps and second time, playing on harder difficulties and challenges, i go with 60fps for better and smoother gameplay.

[Metallox]

Ok, I guess.

The only thing I don't want it's atrocities like Ubisoft often did on Wii U.

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Stable frame rates over anything else.

[Crimzon]

I don't think 60fps is too important for an RPG game, personally. It's pretty much a requirement for racing/fighting/shooting games that need high framerates and low control latency, but I don't think the RPG genre stands to benefit much from it.

[AliTheSnake1]

It is not easy to add that option. You would have to optimize the game twice.

[jhoward585]

Wow, I'm really surprised the wii U couldn't hold up against the ps3 frame rate wise.

[Vegamyster]

@Crimzon

If you've played The Witcher 2 on Dark mode or the Dark Souls Series you'd know why that's not really true, when one mistake can screw you 60 fps definitely makes the experience much better.

@AliTheSnake1

Well if there is a PC version of the game which there is in this case then wouldn't they just have add the Low-Mid-High-Ultra presets and see how each one runs?

[Baka-akaB]

Well he's not necessarily wrong , that'd make the Witcher one of the exception , and yet still not highly depending on it and playable . With the high requirement for both Witcher titles back then , and the enhanced editions it needed , most people used to play it at 30 fps on their pc , at least for the first year or so .

And with Dark Souls the problem isnt even sticking to 30 fps as per design . The problem is how it dropped framerate on consoles

[decrypt]

Translation:

Developers were initially giving Sony and MS hand jobs under the table by claiming games to be 60fps.

Now that games are getting near to release the cats getting out of the bag. First its not going to be 60fps. Its going to be 30fps, who knows how many settings would have to be turned down to allow that 30fps to happen. Devs like to show good screen shots since its screen shots that sell games. Dont be surprised when the final game is out and its having dips in the teens.

Sooner or later as the gen goes on and more true next gen games are out, they will be dropping the resolutions for both the consoles back to 720p.

[garrettbobbyferguson]

@Crimzon

60 FPS makes every game better. It should be a requirement for all genres.

[hay]

It's gonna be 15fps on my PC. I'll stick with the PS4 version.

[decrypt]

@hay

Yes your gramas PC probably will be doing 15fps. Though 30fps on the PS4 dipping down to teens isnt much to be proud about.

[AliTheSnake1]

@Vegamyster No, Because on PC there is no optimization. The graphical settings refers to everything in the game. For instance if you change the texture settings to high, everything that falls under that will be changed to high.
If you change particles effect to high, particles effect in the whole game will be changed to high.
On console developers optimize , they choose which texture to be on high, and which to be on low. They choose where to put more particle effects. and so on. All in the goal of having stable framerates, through out the whole mission/game

[GameNameFame]

X1 couldnt even do Full HD on last footage release. I'd say it has other things to worry about.

[Vegamyster]

@AliTheSnake1

"No, Because on PC there is no optimization."

Nvidia has Geforce Experience which includes a optimizer that sets the game to a custom preset based on your hardware.

http://www.speedupmypcfree....

"On console developers optimize , they choose which texture to be on high, and which to be on low. They choose where to put more particle effects. and so on."

If you go look on Digital Foundry's overviews of BF4, Advanced Warfare, Dragon Age ect you'll see that's not true. Visuals compare to PC presets almost every time, they're not custom made for the console and when it does happen the difference isn't massive/noticeable.

[titans9999]

@decrypt

Your spelling isn't much to be proud of either. You spelled "gramas" which is way off. Here, I will help you out, not because I like you, but because you need to be educated. The word is grandma's. Notice the apostrophe "s" which is the possessive form of the word......go ahead, you can thank me...oh you're not welcome!

[bouzebbal]

what a garbage looking game. looks so ugly no matter where it's running.

[GMR_PR]

Because the console cant handle it maybe.

[aimforthehead]

Why would anyone ever choose 30fps over 60fps.......

[DarkOcelet]

30fps for better graphics. I do that with my games on PC when it cant handle high graphics with 60fps.

[crazychris4124]

I'm the exact opposite, will always turn down settings to achieve 60 fps. I will sometimes go down to 30 fps to see how good the game looks like I did in Crysis 3. Everyone has their own preferences.

[One-Shot]

He is talking about on console. Of course it makes sense on PC with all the graphics options.

[Kumomeme]

some people prefer 30fps over 60 over certain genre games...

also,some people prefer stable 30fps than unstable 60fps

but the issue is the console and not all of pc gaming owned by user out there are capable of pulling it,especially stable 60fps...unless the devs sacrifice lot of things related visual...currently visual is one of things that attracted gamers like this witcher 3...
60 fps is really good,but in certain situation,stable 30fps are better,and 30fps is already good to play game....but if can achieved 60,it will be really good then

[t-hall785]

Just make a fun game. Worrying about how pretty the game is and pleasing graphics fanboys will only get you where the order currently is. The game looks good. Don't worry about fps

[SheenuTheLegend]

well we all know the hard truth.
both consoles are not able to handle 1080p@60fps and thats not sony or microsoft's fault, its the way the market works sadly. they want consoles cheaper which lasts years but when it comes to smartphones even thousands of dollars are okay and they dont last more than 6 months.

Now the only thing i hope they will do is 720@60fps and 1080@30fps and give the options to users.

[Magicite]

Name me at least one massive open-world current gen game that run at 60fos on a console, then we can continue.

[DarkOcelet]

There is non because there are very few open world games. Maybe in the future. Who Knows?

[Captain_Wormy]

Metal Gear Solid V The Phantom Pain?

[DragoonPoon]

Infamous: Second Son runs at 60fps... sometimes.

[Kumomeme]

i recall last demo metal gear solid v the phantom pain run 1080p,stable 60fps on ps4

[masa2009]

The Witcher 3 is a far more demanding game than The Last of Us.

Not sure what makes you so sure that a 60 FPS mode would work well enough in The Witcher.
The Last of Us is basically a last gen games, and the frame rate already takes some huge hits in 60 FPS mode.

The Order looks great but has almost no environment interactions, corridor level design, and needs huge black bars to make it work at even 30 FPS.

So I'm going to trust CD Project when they say that their 1080p game open world game without black bars is going to need the 30 FPS cap.

[Spinal]

At least somebody has sense and isn't living in fantasy land.

It's like these fanboys seriously think the ps4 can render anything at 60fps Lool delusional is an understatement. this coming from someone that has a ps4.

[JackVagina]

Anything could be 60fps on console

They would just have to make it look like this
http://netbookist.com/wp-co...

[Kumomeme]

dont forget its open world games vs linear games...

put visual data aside,open world are more demanding due to lot of things need to takecare of in one masses environment screen at sametime,at realtime,include realtime weather and such

[christian hour]

It's a sad day that developers need to come out and clarify these things. The uneducated fanboys from all sides of the "war" have ruined this gen :(

It's like going to McDonalds and complaining when the food is not gourmet cuisine. You want that, pay more and get a gaming PC.

We've known the console specs since day one, not sure why it is such a shocking surprise or an outrage to people.

Sure some games on console will reach 60fps, but it's a process much akin to spinning plates, the more you throw in the harder it's going to be to keep everything stable 100% of the time. When a game is linear (like tps, racer, fighter, shooter) the developers have a very good idea of where the players going to be looking and when, so they can optimise their game around this and a stable frame rate of 60 is much more attainable.

When its a large game where the player can go wherever, do whatever, and the ai will have much more variables going on at all times, somethings going to take a hit, and 9 times out of 10 its going to be the frame rate.

[ginsunuva]

Yeah I know. And all they have to do is go change the variable fps in the code from

int fps = 30;

to

int fps = 60;

So easy.

[Gamer1982]

Options are a nice idea but thats when we start blurring the lines between console and PC.. If they start opening things like that it won't be long before the only differnce between PC and console will be the fact you can upgrade your PC. Especially with them on same hardware.

People play consoles for the simplicity of it all in the end. 90% of gamers don't care about 60FPS also but would care if it dropped below 30fps as that's noticeable.

[ShottyGibs]

The line is already blurred. Games need to be installed on consoles already, they have PC internals.. why not give users an option increase their frame rate at the expense of visuals.

PS. Gamers to care about 60fps.. is this thread not proof enough?

[showtimefolks]

i am not doubting CD red Project i have nothing but respect for them. But i really hope The Witcher 3 Delivers. I am so tired of true next gen games ending up good to average

i really really hope bloodborne starts the next gen the right way, followed by the witcher 3

[DarkOcelet]

Bloodborne followed by Witcher 3 followed by Arkham Knight followed by The Phantom Pain.

[bunt-custardly]

So...not aiming for any particular frame rate or resolution and just gunning for the best "adventure" experience possible. Seems fair enough to me, but then again the better visual quality the more dramatic looking the adventure imo.

[4Sh0w]

Not really, wii u has alot more games that are 1080p 60fps vs X1/ps4 but hardly anyone would say the visuals are the best or "more dramatic looking".

-You see that res alone does not equal good graphics, ALL things equal 1080p vs a lower res is better but in most cases if your ambition is a large open world with tons of content, graphic assets and effects specifically on ps4 or X1 then its harder to add that and maintain 60fps because while they have alot of horsepower it is limited. Its evident with games already available that a dev could pour more resoureces into other graphic assets and make a "more dramatic" looking game than one that is 1080p but lacking so many other effects. So what the dev is hinting at is that instead of cutting back on their vision to give the gamer all this great in game assets he'd rather just settle for 30fps, which honestly for a rpg 60fps isn't a big deal....or would you rather them dial back the scope and make it 60fps?

[Kumomeme]

to achieved higher framerates,devs need to sacrificed lot of things related to visual...people want gorgeous visual,but doesnt mean it stuck there...

nintendo done it well despite visual and hardware capabilities with artsyle...lot of devs should done this right....

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

And I'll explain why I don't care if this game isn't 60 FPS:

Because I just don't care!

[Two-Face]

You don't want smoother gameplay? Ok.

[bananaboats]

30fps doesnt hinder people from enjoying a game. Im glad im one of the people who dont get overly concerned when a game isnt 60fps.

[AliTheSnake1]

@Two-Face You don't want next-gen graphics ? OK

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

Yeah. Can't help it if it can't be done. 30 fps is smooth and playable enough.

[MasterCornholio]

As long as its a stable 30 I'm fine with it.

But if the developers include a 60FPS option I won't say anything against that.

[OrangePowerz]

We all want smoother games, in the end of the day you make a compromise. Do you downgrade the graphics to make it 60fps or do you keep the graphics and make it 30fps? The gameplay is the same, the story is the same. When I have those two choices I take the shinier graphics instead if 60fps.

For me better graphics add more to the game then higher framerate especially in games like RPGs that are slower games. We can argue about fast paced FPS or racing games in those cases a higher framerate can add more compared to nicer looking graphics.

I also take a stable and solid 30fps over a not stable 60fps.

[memots]

What frame rate the game of the year in 2014 ?

That's right 30fps with Dragon Age,
This needs to stop.
Every single game last gen no fuk was given when they did not do 60fps. Only very few ever did. Yes this is next gen but don't you think they want to maximize visual so the game is... you know .. Next gen?

[MadLad]

Smooth gameplay is so overrated. /s

[MysticStrummer]

The idea that 30fps doesn't result in smooth gameplay is ridiculous.

[MadLad]

It's jumpy, ugly, and it feels sluggish to probably anyone used to playing at 60fps+ more often than the occasional release here and there, actually.

[ProjectVulcan]

"Why The Witcher 3 Is Not 60fps On The PS4 And Xbox One"

Simple, because they aren't more powerful.

And even if they were, they would just have higher settings enabled like the PC version rather than aiming for 60FPS. It's just not that kind of game.

[AliTheSnake1]

You claim to be a PC guy. Yet you don't have the slightest idea how this works ?
Any game can easily be 60fps or even 120fps. All you have to do is dump down the graphics.

[ProjectVulcan]

I know how it works.

I'm also realistic enough to know they aren't going to aim for 200FPS and 640 x 480 resolution.

They will aim for 30FPS like the other console Witcher game, and then anything between 720p and 1080p.

If anyone really thinks this particular developer, with this particular game would have ever aimed for 60FPS on this console hardware then they are deluded, ESPECIALLY when they have talked for a long time about not even necessarily hitting 1080p on Xbox One!

It would be useful if you even knew the history of the game's development and the developer's existing remarks on resolution and performance....instead of trying to score points by lecturing me of all people.

[Seafort]

Developers can hit 60fps on all games if they wanted to but you'd have 8 bit graphics to compensate for the lack of power the consoles have.

Your choice or not :P

[Cy]

I've never in my life noticed a difference between 30 and 60fps. It's a non issue for me, no matter what the game type is, and I laugh at how pissy people get over it.

[DarkOcelet]

The difference is there my friend. If you have Bishock or TLOU remastered. Go play them in 30fps and then switch to 60fps. Its really better and smoother. But i don't mind playing at 30fps.

[ginsunuva]

What does Bioshock have to do with 60fps?

[Yetter]

its hard to tell from watching a video, but when you play it you can tell

[Two-Face]

The difference is huge. And the difference is also huge from 60fps to 120fps or more. There is a reason for professional players demanding 144hz monitor on the pro scene. Because it is so much smoother for the eyes.

[christian hour]

Which is why 60fps or more should really only matter when theres a competitive element. Those milliseconds of reaction time are crucial.

Single player gaming? 30fps is fine, the ai is not going to get the edge on you (there are some exceptions, fighting games primarily, AI can be a miserable bitch sometimes).

If they can hit 60fps, thats always a nice thing to have, but not having it isn't going to detract from the game experience all that much unless you're obsessed with the idea of having a bigger number to gaud over.

I'm an absolute technophile, I edit video shot in 4k, I edit sound for 5.1 or higher, and I play my games with a beast of a surround sound system.

But when I'm playing at a friends or watching something on DVD I don't trash the room and flip out and find the experience unenjoyable.

[Baka-akaB]

You definitively would notice on some particular games or genre of games .

You would definitively struggle with input alone in fighting , as there are barely any at 30 fps . You need smooth animation , even just for the sake of reading opponents moves n or "twitch reactions" .

Hell i believe Jojo Bizarre adventure and some of the Naruto games are was pretty much the sole ones released the previous gen at 30 fps , and while decent they are quirky anime fanservice titles , street fighter or virtua/tekken .

And for the regular titles that dont necessarily need it , once you've tried those games at 60 or 120 fps , you'll definitively feel a loss of smoothness going back down . Playable ? No problem there , but definitively a lesser experience

[MadLad]

I don't know how that is, honestly. I know it's easier for people used to thirty to not notice how jumpy it actually is. But to say you don't feel or see the difference is . . . weird.

Personally, I can barely stand anything that's not 50+ anymore.

[DragoonPoon]

@Cy: I don't demand my games to be in 60fps. I mean, it's nice when it's there. I definitely prefer it. But it doesn't bother me as long as it's a stable 30fps.

But honestly, how can you not notice? If your brain didn't update the image from your eyes fast enough to notice the difference between 30fps and 60fps, you would be practically blind when you were in motion. I call shenanigans on all you people who claim not to notice. Either you just haven't taken the time to look, or you're lying.

[kevinsheeks]

The simple truth is the systems couldn't handle it no need to beat around the bush we're grown-ups.

[MasterCornholio]

They could but then the game would not look as good as it does on consoles.

[kevinsheeks]

You're right I didn't think about this.

[Corpser]

Duh consoles are not running this gane at max pc settings and 60fps

[OrangePowerz]

The majority of PCs won't play that game at max PC settings at a stable 60fps either :)

If you look at the steam hardware survey you will see that the majority of PC gamers don't have hugely powerful hardware. People like myself who have stronger PCs and rigs made for gaming are a small minority compared to the rest of PC gamers.

I have a considerable beefy PC costing a lot more than the two consoles, but I don't think my rig will run that game at 60fps with everything to max.

[Randostar]

Im sorry but you dont have that BEEFY of a pc if you cant run this at max settings and get a solid 60fps. Beefy PC's can play crysis 3 at max settings with 120fps.
Hell a $900 hardware build should get you max settings at 60FPS no problem.

[OrangePowerz]

Not the best of the best but R9 290x, i7 CPU, 16GB RAM, 2 250GB SSD and 1 normal 1TB is beefy enough and that doesn't get Crysis 3 to a 120fps with everything max at 1080. It's not the best available hardware but it's a lot stronger then what the majority of PC gamers have.

[TeaDouble_E]

Not every thing has to be 60 fps. Look at destiny for example. Millions log in but never complain about its frame rate.

[maniacmayhem]

I think it's pretty obvious that these consoles can't handle open world experiences like these games and have a high framerate.

We know this and I think devs shouldn't have to waste their time explaining why their game isn't 60fps.

[DragoonPoon]

Of course they can. The polygon count, lighting, render distance and textures would have to be closer to last gen to do so. But of course the consoles are capable of an open-world game running at 1080p 60fps. Just not one that looks like Witcher 3.

[akurtz]

They have a vision/goal for the console version of the witcher 3, and 30fps allows them to technically fulfill that vision. Amirite?

[Stapleface]

If it applies to one it applies to another. Something along that order of thinking.

[Gamer777]

This shouldn't need explaining its a graphically intense GPU and CPU intense open world game. They possibly could have made the ga,e 60fps by scaling the graphics way back; but then people would complain about the game being ugly and dated looking. CDProjekt Red simply aimed for a good balance between graphics and performance.

[Roccetarius]

It was already mentioned that there was parity between textures from consoles and PC, otherwise the development of this wouldn't have been possible. It's a shame, but eventually someone will add textures worthy of the PC.

[dRanzer]

Never maind i will go for 30fps on ps4 becouse the req for pc is damn high for 60 fps
just do 30 fps all the way with NO POP IN at all

[OldDude]

Lets see, why isnt it 60fps? Because both systems dont have the power for it, thats why!

[Wickerman1972]

They don't, but at the same time 60 fps is totally unnecessary for a game like this. A solid 30 fps is plenty good enough.

[Whirlwind_Fanfare_08]

@OldDude Uh, not true! soooooo........

http://i.imgur.com/t9MAwW2....

[Wickerman1972]

If Witcher 3 really is 900p on X1 with resolution being the only difference between it and the PS4 version I'll be surprised.

[marioJP87]

Because they cant handle it and arent truly next gen. One cant handle a high profie game at 1080P and the other cant handle a high profile game at 1080P WITH 60 fps.

[MadLad]

It's bad when what is considered PC standard, and has been for years, is something that most can't attain with the just recently released crop of consoles.

[marioJP87]

Seriously! It's pretty ridiculous.

[MysticStrummer]

They are next gen consoles. When have consoles ever released that were more powerful than top of the line PCs?

The answer is never, yet the console generations continue.

[sugawalls]

Wrong. The Xbox 360 and PS3 were considered High end back in 2005. They were ahead of most PC's.

The consoles generations only continue because people are dumb enough to fall for the hype. Cheap... and you get what you pay for.

[MysticStrummer]

"The Xbox 360 and PS3 were considered High end back in 2005. They were ahead of most PC's."

Most PCs aren't top of the line PCs, which is what I said. 360 and PS3 were most definitely not ahead of top of the line PCs. The problem here is that the niche market of top of the line PC gamers seems to think "PC gaming" means only them, when in fact most PC gaming is done on off the shelf PCs that aren't brand new and aren't upgraded in any way.

"consoles generations only continue because people are dumb enough to fall for the hype. Cheap... and you get what you pay for."

Console generations continue because many people don't want to game on their PCs. I've tried PC gaming several times in my 30+ years of gaming and never found it to be the Holy Gaming Grail it's cracked up to be. If by "fall for the hype" you mean "play the games I want to play on a device that integrates easily with my home theater system", you're right. With PC gaming I never got what I paid for.

[masa2009]

What part of the PC global install base runs The Witcher 3 as well as a PS4?

[KontryBoy706]

I don't think anyone should be surprised by this at this point lol

[Logak]

Awesome, but very frustrating for Sony and Microsoft to just rush out those consoles, they could have been more powerful enough to have perfection resolutions and frame rates for games. I'm not too fussed though, I'm sure the Witcher will still be a great game.

[Fro_xoxo]

I think if one dev admits the consoles aren't strong enough.

These journalist might stop asking devs the same question over and over again.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

Parity... We didn't need to be informed again!

[fullmetal297]

It's plain and simple: Consoles can handle the game in 60 FPS. And judging by the system requirements, you need a pretty beefy PC rig to enjoy this game a decent framerate. Looks like the Witcher 3 is shaping to be the next Crysis in system benchmarks.

That been said, I particularly don't mind playing playing the Witcher 3 in 30 frames since playing the Witcher 2 in 30 frames with my GTX 670 had no effect on my overall experience.

[jznrpg]

The Witcher 3 will be awesome regardless of what settings or platform it is played on.

[Jaqen_Hghar]

After playing the Order a man is more convinced than ever that a locked 30fps with improved visuals is the best route to go. That game looked smooth as all get out and was obviously visually stunning.

[Moldiver]

In the case of single player story driven games yes. And in sandbox/open world games too. 60FPS REALLY only matters for competitive FPS/racing. It would be ideal to have high IQ and 60FPS but its simply not possible on either console. a locked 30FPS with zero drops regardless of onscreen action and high IQ is the way to go for other types of games. I agree with you.

[benji101]

You all sound like you just gave up on having quality. 60 fps is crucial. Sad that games have got to this state.

[Moldiver]

"You all sound like you just gave up on having quality. 60 fps is crucial. Sad that games have got to this state.2

The specs of the hardware are just that. No amount of huffing and puffing on our part will change that. Devs cant seem to pull it. all we get is unlocked 30 (which I hate). I would rather a locked 30 and high IQ. Especially if system resources are limited. And that seems to be the case for many triple A games. I reckon, halo 5 and forza 6 will be the only triple A exclusives running 1080P 60FPS this year(the rest will be 1080P 30FPS locked or unlocked(I hate unlocked).

[MysticStrummer]

"60 fps is crucial"

It's so crucial that the game of the year was 30fps. Many games of the year have been in fact.

[Azzanation]

Its very clear, yet still don't know why fanboys still think these consoles can do these settings. These games aren't design with consoles in mind. They simply aren't powerful enough to achieve both 1080p and 60 frames using the latest game engines etc. (unless they butcher the game completely) I recommend consoles gamers to get this 1080p/60 out of your head. If it means so much to you then game on PC where these options are possible.

I game on Consoles too, and I don't expect 1080p/60 from them unless its an indie game or a remastered. I know how much my PC struggles sometimes to render games at those settings and my PC is at least 2x the power of a PS4.

[christian hour]

Why such low bubbles for someone who's actually making sense?

We had these exact same arguments early last gen and the exact same type of people defending their console purchases believing it was some sort of magical endless box of power. And they didn't stop til about 4 years in when fanboys could draw on the argument "well of course pc games are better, these consoles are 4 years old now".

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

I'm a console gamer btw, but I'm not an idiot. My pc can jut about play minecraft at 20 fps, which is nice :)

[Smokingunz]

What limitations are developers talking about!? The current gen consoles have 8 cores and 8 gigs of ram! So I dont see why thre should be any limitations! Smh this is just embarrassing on the devs part.I mean if we are still going to have new consoles struggling to run games in 60 frames and full 1080 (especially xbox1) what was the point in bringing out new consoles? It makes no sense to me.

[christian hour]

"what was the point in bringing out new consoles? "

Are you serious? I don't think you understand how these things work. The CPU/GPU aren't just doing graphical things, theres a lot more going on elsewhere and it opens up the console gamer to new posibbilities on the processing side (No mans Sky for example) that just were not possible at ALL on the old consoles.

Graphics are more than resolution and framerate too.

There are new advanced rendering techniques being used, better shaders, better lighting, higher resolution textures for starters...

For example, last gen there was low res textures, 256x256 maybe i cant remember the exact numbers, it varied depending on the importance placed on the model by the developers...

So you walk up close to those textures in a 1080p game and that texture is being stretched out and will look HORRIBLE, higher res textures will look better close up even at a lower game resolution than low res textures would look close up on a 1080p game.

I'm gonna stop now or I'll be here all day and get in to things that might go over your head, but I feel the texture explanation is the easiest concept for people to grasp.

[clouds5]

What i don't understand is why people that care so much about framerate even buy a console. It is a well known fact, that consoles usually run only 30fps. If you buy a console that is what you get!
You don't go out and buy a cheap and small car and expect it to go 300mph, right?

The Ps4 basically has pc hardware, so go out and look what kind of hardware a PC needs to achieve 60fps at high settings in 1080p in demanding games. You need to spend more money if you want more fps it's as simple as that. The only reason ps4/xb1 won't to 60fps 1080p all the time is money. It's possible but people won't spend 1000+$ on a console.

[traumadisaster]

There is 8 million articles on how to build a 1080 60fps pc for $500, cheaper for anyone bringing parts from an existing pc...

I learned how on YouTube and I can barely change my oil. Plus you can play console as you slowly buy pc pieces over time.

I built half way through last gen and got all the multiplats that totally trumped ps360.

Now I'm hooked and wanted more so i went 4k, on multiplats before ps4x1 even came out.

[clouds5]

I agree. I've been building my own custom PCs since the 90ies :) it's the best way to play games period. And it's never been better. With steam and gog you got everything you need and hardware is super efficient and cheap compared to earlier days.
But some consoles are still worth it because of exclusives. I bought a used ps3 a year ago. Amazing titles.

[--bienio--]

Pc version it's the one people need to choose:) if they want have 60fps etc

[MookaTek]

I can't believe that people really care so much about this. I've played games in both 60 and 30 FPS and, yes, there's a difference, but they are both very playable.

My only concern is that the game is not a slideshow. If I can take a step or move the camera without whatever system I'm playing on virtually giving up, then I'm happy.

Basically, I'm almost always happy, especially now that I finally have a gaming PC. I can point, shoot, collect, move smoothly, and have fun at 30 or 60 frames a second. Who really cares?

[sssb]

Don't care about 30fps, all I care playing this EPIC rpg.

[ShottyGibs]

I would have gladly paid an extra $200 for these consoles if they'd come with better hardware and did 60fps.

[antikbaka]

whatever fantasies and lies about current gen (ps4/xbox one) are, the reality is that you still can't make EVERY game run 60 fps on consoles.

[Krosis]

Lol because they're consoles. 60 fps will "matter" when one console can do it and the other cant--then the kids can go back to arguing. For now though, because neither the PS4 or Xbox One cant--"I don't care about 60fps"....sort of like how 1080p "didn't matter" until the new consoles finally were able to do it lol
The end story is--it'll be an awesome game. If it's the graphics that matter most to you then you wouldn't buy it on console to begin with (like any game for that matter). This game will give my 295x a nice workout; can't wait :)

[Clonetrooper1139]

That is why I will be playing this potential masterpiece on PC, just like the previous 2 Chapters.

[ZainreFang]

PS4/XBO can't run it at 60FPS.

[traqueia]

At least the PS4 Combined with the XOne can do 60 fps

30+30=60

That's why I have a PC and a Ps4 too:

60+30=90

90 fps here, guys, deal with it!

[GamePeace]

Bloodborne is 30fps on my Ps4. It's more than enough to exclude the witcher 3 out of my gaming library...