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smashman98

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Call of Duty Subscription

Remember when there was all that talk about how big bad activision would start charging a subscription fee and everyone got scared...

Everybody was saying, "Oh if that ever happens I'm not playing Cod ever again and activision; I can guarantee you that"

Chances are you do remember that, but now I'm gonna ask you to look back on your black ops experience. The single player was awesome as expected. Zombies was pretty fun. OH and the multiplayer...

was extremely similar to Modern Warfare 2's, albeit a slight facelift, balancing, different maps, and a few other extras (and depending on which version you got; much more bug ridden/glitchy/halfassed port)

Rewind a little further to World at war and you have a multiplayer that is still very similar but atleast tried to differentiate itself from Modern Warfare.

Anyways, I guess the point that I am trying to express to you guys is that you are already subscribing to Call of Duty
and have been for 4 years.

Don't you see the games multiplayer changes very little every year they add a new 4-5 hour campaign with your package and a few other extras; and then they send you off and on your way with a nice yearly expansion/ subscription pack.

I'm not saying that Call of Duty is evil and it sucks, no quite the contrary, everyone is so satisfied with the game every year due to the massive replay value and content stuffed into the game each year that they havent even bothered to realize that they are pretty much subscribed. (with the exception of us ps3 owners who got shafted)

I'm interested to see what the rest of you guys think about this,
so please comment and thanks for reading

-SMASHMAN98

Christopher4613d ago

I see what you're saying, but it's not the same. Subscription talk is about paying $60 for a game or expansion to the game each year and then also paying a monthly fee to play the game online. Sure, people are paying $60 a year, but will they also pay upwards of $10 a month to just play online?

Look at MMOs for a better representation of what is being discussed. Especially games like EQ2 that put out an expansion ever 12-18 months in addition to the monthly fees.

smashman984613d ago

oh yea i did think about that and i shouldve written my thoughts down on that as well but u gotta think here COD is not an mmo, and heres what i mean.

In an mmo youll have friends that you quest with lvl up and all that. By the end of that playthrough most ppl would've spent upwards of 100 hours, still not even 100% complete with the game. Then of course your factoring out pvp battles, going through it as a totally different class and other things as well.

With Cod you have the short single player (atleast compared to an mmo's story quest), then multiplayer, and usually one other game mode (Zombies, Spec ops)

A lot people play COD(but that goes without saying lol). Its fun to play. But of those people a vast majority of them are people who only play COD and wouldnt even own a console other wise. Add to that, that a good portion of those are subscribed to xbox live.

Now if activision decided to put a subscription service in their next COD title how many would actually subscribe...

A lot, lol but tell me this who, Would everyone subscribe to this; no. And would every body subscribe all year around; no. This would harm the Cod franchise greatly, because while activision would be charging subscription fees, EA and others publishers would be using this to their advantage stealing CODS consumer base and thus harming activision to the point where it would never be able to regain the popularity it once had.

Which is exactly why you cant look at this like a MMO subscription, this is an all new kind of subscription, unless you want to count the sports titles as the ones who pioneered in this service. And lets not forget the dlc map packs that are released for a ridiculous price.

Christopher4613d ago

I think a lot of people just fear that CoD will go more an MMO content distribution and subscription route without going the full on MMO route.

Personally, after the last four years of ridiculous sales of the franchise, I see no reason why they would tamper with something that is truly dominating on all HD platforms.

smashman984613d ago

100% agree with u on that one if they do that then the game will suffer and lose all the momentum its been keeping

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Aloymetal2h ago

Because Kojipro has a way more important game in the making aka his new baby franchise Death Stranding 2;)

ThichQuangDuck2h ago

y'all don't have to do fanboy shit on every single post. We can just be happy Kojima is dropping Death Stranding 2 and whatever this is. Good game experiences are what matter

Uybfpe1h ago

Kojima Horror Game > Uber Eats Simulator 2024

Lightning772h ago

"Spencer explained that he's meeting with Kojima-san next week when he's visiting Kojima Productions. He's looking forward to meeting the developer and checking up on the progress of the project.

He believes development is going well, however, Kojima-san is an innovative developer who is trying something entirely new with this game, and Spencer thinks he needs to work on realizing his vision out of the spotlight.

That's why Spencer doesn't want to ask him to step on stage to say something before he's ready. He believes Microsoft should make sure he has all the time he needs."

I mean of course. That would be dumb of Phil to announce force CG trailer of Kojima show us something weird then be gone for the next 4 to 5 years. He's leaving Kojima and the team alone to work instead of forcing stuff. Not like Phil knows what his game is anyway.

Obscure_Observer2h ago(Edited 1h ago)

"Not like Phil knows what his game is anyway."

Sure, so Hideo Kojima is working on an Xbox exclusive game in partnership with Kim Swift and powered by Azure, and yet, somehow, Phil doesn´t know nothing about it. /S

On topic:

I´m glad Phil is keeping this game at some low profile level approach while giving Kojima the time he needs to deliver something special and unique.

Godmars2901h ago

We are talking about the guy who was clueless about the vampire game - really can't be bothered to remember it - while praising it to no end.

Lightning771h ago

"Sure, so Hideo Kojima is working on an Xbox exclusive game in partnership with Kim Swift and powered by Azure, and yet, somehow, Phil doesn´t know nothing about it. /S"

I highly doubt he knows what Kojima is making right now. Genre, gameplay. Maybe a premise or concept. He wouldn't step on his toes considering Phil doesn't know everything about the game or direction.

Obscure_Observer6m ago

@Lightning77

"I highly doubt he knows what Kojima is making right now. Genre, gameplay. Maybe a premise or concept. He wouldn't step on his toes considering Phil doesn't know everything about the game or direction."

So you´re telling me that Phil Spencer, the man who had Hideki Kamiya´s Scalebound canceled due the lack of progress and commitment to deadlines, would just thrown hundreds of million dollars from Microsoft´s investors and shareholders at Kojima´s door to make a game without even known if it´s a racing or some Tetris game?

Come on, dude. Even you know your comment doesn´t even make sense.

porkChop28m ago

"I highly doubt he knows what Kojima is making right now. Genre, gameplay. Maybe a premise or concept. He wouldn't step on his toes considering Phil doesn't know everything about the game or direction."

You're aware that for any publisher to essentially give you a blank check and access to all their tech you have to do a pitch, right? It's not just "it's a game that's never been done before". You have to actually explain what you're doing, how it will work, how it's different, etc. It's a cloud-based game, you have to explain how and why you're leveraging the cloud, why it can't be done locally, etc. You don't think Phil would know what it is considering he's the head of all of Microsoft Gaming?

Lightning771m ago

I understand all that I'm talking about he probably doesn't know what sorta game it is yet or how it'll play.

The story goes before he went to MS Kojima pitched his game everywhere including Amazon and Google but they all turned him down because nobody could make out what sorta game it was. Tbh I don't think MS got what they were selling either but welcomed him aboard anyway because MS needs games and why not have Kojima represent your console and cloud capabilities (since that's what he's leveraging in his game)

MS knows he can't turn someone like him down and possibly burn working relations. Again they need games especially Japanese lead games badly MS can't afford to turn him down even if their game sounds strange or out there.

raWfodog2h ago

I’m very interested in learning more about this game as well. I always enjoy Kojima’s games, no matter how ‘quirky’ they are. They always go against the grain of the industry, and aren’t afraid to try new things.

Godmars2901h ago

Probably because he's working on Death Standing 2 right now, given that there's at least a trailer of it.

Obscure_Observer1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

"Probably because he's working on Death Standing 2 right now, given that there's at least a trailer of it."

If Kojima will have Phil visiting his studio next week to see how the development of his new Xbox exclusive game is going, it´s obvious he´s been working on both Death Stranding 2 and his new Xbox IP at the same time.

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