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Why the Sega Saturn is the most underrated console of all time

I hear all the time how the Sega Dreamcast (Rest in Peace) is the most underrated console of all time. How it did everything right, had the best launch lineup in history and still got no love from mainstream gamers. But I recently bought a Saturn and started playing through it's vast library and I now firmly believe the Sega Saturn overwhelmingly deserves that title.

Unlike the Dreamcast, the Saturn never got much love at launch and still doesn't to this day. Very few people ever owned one and fewer still have played through it's amazing library. At the time, it was a 2D powerhouse in an industry that was more interested in 3D gaming and it quickly fell deep into last place against the much more exciting Nintendo 64 (64 bits!) and the absolute cultural phenomenon that was the Sony PlayStation.

I was 10 years old at the time of it's launch (May 1995) and I was a hardcore Sega kid. The Genesis did what Nintendidn't and I was loving the attitude of Sonic the Hedgehog, the cool tunes of Streets of Rage and the bloody version of Mortal Kombat. I was positively ecstatic about the Saturn. But the $400 launch price ($620 in today's money) and weak launch lineup dumped a bucket of water over the head of my hype. Nintendo likewise killed a lot of my interest with the epic disaster that was the Virtual Boy and the delaying of the Ultra 64 into late 1996. And Sony? Who would buy a console from Sony? Did a company that made Walkmans even know how to make games? Such was the mind of children in 1995...

After talking about it with my friends and family I just decided to wait. Too many unknowns. Better to see how things shake out. By the time the Nintendo 64 finally launched, I had made my decision. I would fly the flag of the Big N. Super Mario 64 is a hell of a negotiator after all. But I soon came to regret that decision as the PlayStation deluge of awesome titles soon had me trading in that N64 for the cinematic awesomeness of Final fantasy VII and Metal Gear Solid. And so I went through that whole generation without playing or seeing much of the obscure Sega Saturn. My strongest memories of the black boxed console was playing Nights into Dreams and Panzer Dragoon at a demo kiosk in Software Etc. Both are excellent titles but hardly killer apps.

It was largely external forces that killed the Saturn. Retailers refused to stock it due to it's early and unexpected launch, the terrible 32X add-on for the Genesis poisoned the well for a lot of fans (the Sega CD was amazing but that is another blog post) and most of the Saturn's best games were left in Japan. But it deserved better than that.

I believe a console is ultimately judged by it's software. And the Saturn had most of the best games of that generation. Many of the games that we associate with the PS1 here in the USA like Grandia, Dead or Alive and the Lunar games are actually ports and generally play better on the Saturn. Allow me to take you on a tour of the highlights of the Saturn library...

Capcom and SNK clearly preferred the Saturn (and continued to support Sega during the Dreamcast era) and it showed in the multitude of Street Fighter, Samurai Shodown, Fatal Fury and Metal Slug games that were exclusive. Many of these games were also ported to the PS1 but the Saturn versions are FAR superior. Especially, X-Men Vs Street Fighter, Marvel Superheroes Vs Street Fighter and Street Fighter Zero 3. There were also several exclusives like Night Warriors and Dark Legend.

When it comes to 3D fighters of this era most people think of PlayStation hits like Tekken, Soul Blade and Bloody Roar. And those are excellent games but the Saturn was far better than the N64 in this regard. Games like Anarchy in the Nippon, Savaki, Zero Divide The Final Conflict, Last Bronx, Virtual On: Cyber Troopers, Fighting Vipers and the venerable Virtua Fighter series are some of the best of the era. But one game that needs to be talked about more often is Fighters Megamix. It combined both Fighting Vipers and Virtua Fighter into one epic package. You can even fight as a car from Daytona USA and punch people with your wheels! This game is so amazing that it boggles my mind that it never got a sequel.

The most complete version of Hideo Kojima's epic adventure Policenauts is only available for the Saturn and it is a crime that this game is still (as of August 2015) unavailable outside of Japan and fan translations. And don't get me started on the criminal obscurity of Snatcher. After the firing of Kojima, I believe there is a special place in hell for Konami... Moving on.

RPGs are my favorite genre and I admit that the strength of a consoles RPGs have great influence over my opinion. Having said that, there is no denying that the Saturn runs rings (pun intended) around the N64 and even rivals the PS1 in RPG goodness. I mean how many good N64 RPGs can you name? Ogre Battle 64? Paper Mario? If you leave off the Zelda games (Action RPGs), there isn't much... Now look at the Saturn:

Panzer Dragoon Saga (arguably better than FFVII)
Dragon Force
Dragon force II
Lunar Silver Star Story
Lunar 2 Eternal Blue
Grandia
Albert Odyssey : Legend of Eldean
Magic School Lunar
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers
Shining the Holy Ark
Shining Force 3 (Scenario 1, 2 and 3) Yes, its a whole trilogy of Strategy RPGs where you can carry your save game over
Magic Knight Rayearth
Langrisser Dramatic Edition (compilation of Langrisser 1&2)
Langrisser 3
Langrisser 4
Langrisser 5 Pretty much the entire Langrisser SRPG series
Mystaria: The Realms of Lore (AKA Blazing Heroes AKA Riglord Saga)

And then there are action RPGs like Princess Crown, Legend of Oasis and Guardian Heroes. If it weren't for Final Fantasy, I believe that the Saturn would be the undisputed RPG king of the 5th Generation.

The greatest failure of the Saturn in many gamer's eyes is that there never was a great Saturn Sonic the Hedghog game but while that is true, the Saturn is very hard to top when it comes to action/adventure games and platformers. Take a look at this lineup:

Nights into Dreams (Far better than most PS1 platformers)
Burning Rangers (love this game so much!)
Mr. Bones (So underrated!)
Dark Savior
Silhouette Mirage
Shinobi Legions
Astal
Rayman
Clockwork Knight
Clockwork Knight 2
Sonic Jam (Sonic 1/2/3/Knuckles and yes they look better then the original versions, also Sonic World)
Herc's Adventures
Die Hard Arcade
Three Dirty Dwarves
Saturn Bomberman
Bug!
Bug Too!
Tomb Raider (developed as a Saturn exclusive)

Oh, what's that? You like Shooters?! Well arm your missiles and power up your shields and prepare to be amazed cause the Saturn was the undisputed king of shooters and shootemups.

Radiant Silvergun (THE best shmup of all time. I don't even.)
Panzer Dragoon
Panzer Dragoon Zwei (easily the best on-rails shooter of the era. Star Fox 64 can suck it)
Darius Gaiden (still playing this one all the time)
Darius II
Soukyu Gurentai
Battle Garegga
Hyper Duel
Guardian Force
RayForce (AKA Layer Section AKA Galactic Attack)
Do Donpachi

If you like light gun shooters then Virtua Cop 1&2 and House of the Dead will compete with Time Crisis any day of the week. Thanks to GoldenEye 007 and Medal of Honor, First Person Shooters became more popular than the other forms of shooters but as FPS games go, Saturn exclusives like Gungriffon 1&2 were better than most and PC ports like Quake and Duke Nukem 3D were better on Saturn.

Survival Horror fans got the best version of Resident Evil on the Saturn but that wasn't all. Kenji Eno's famous "Enemy Zero" and "D" became cult hits that still get name dropped a lot today and the Saturn exclusive "Deep Fear" is arguably the best survival horror game of that entire generation.

But now we come to the sad end of this tale. Most Saturn exclusives are still to this day ONLY on the Saturn. Many have never been re-released on any other platform and maybe never will and that has a lot to do with the Saturn's bizarre hardware. Even emulation is incredibly difficult and perfect Saturn emulation is probably never going to happen. And so I thought I'd make this blog post to let whomever reads this know that there is still at least one gamer out there that has experienced the hidden brilliance of the Sega Saturn.

The PlayStation had an amazing rival in the Saturn and in my personal opinion the N64 deserved to be in last place. The N64's clumsy and fragile controller combined with it's high costing/low data cartridges and very small game library (especially RPGs) make it the inferior console of it's generation and yet the N64 sold 23 million more units than the Saturn. I mostly attribute this to the great reception of the SNES. Most gamers could be forgiven for thinking that after FFVI, Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger, Nintendo 64 would be the home of RPGs in the 5th Gen. How were we supposed to know Square and Enix would jump ship?

What really bugs me though is that unlike the Dreamcast, the Saturn has not been talked about with loving reverence and remembered with rosy fondness. Despite selling relatively the same as the Dreamcast, the Saturn was on the market twice as long as the Dreamcast was and it's game sales were higher. The Saturn is long overdue another look by gamers and hopefully this blog post is good step towards that.

For those few of you out there that did own a Saturn, what are your favorite Saturn games? I know I skipped over quite a few gems in this post. Lemme know in the comments about others I should check out. Thanks for reading!

johndoe112113529d ago

It's not just about the software the systems had but the potential of what they would or could become. That's why I would give it to the dreamcast over the Saturn.

bouzebbal3519d ago (Edited 3519d ago )

Saturn is truly a great system, but too expensive for what it was offering.
Games weren't flowing as much as with Dreamcast, but i personally prefered Saturn over PS1 at that time due to SEGA's franchises like Story of Thor, Panzer Dragoon, SEGA Rally, Fighters Megamix, but especially the 2D fighting genre like SNK and Capcom games which were much better than PS1 due to the extra RAM cartridge and the better D-pad. Some of my all time favorite franchises were born on Saturn (WipEout, Tomb Raider, Resident Evil...).

SEGA Saturn was lacking games, and PS1 took advantage of that at that time.
This also changed EVERYTHING: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

I love Sega Saturn but Dreamcast is the most underrated console of all time.

MadchesterManc3528d ago (Edited 3528d ago )

I still have a Saturn. It's SEGA's dark horse for sure. I consider it to be as good as the Dreamcast at the very least. The Model 2 controller is still one of the best controllers to have ever graced my hands. Last time I had it set up I spent quite a while playing through Shining the Holy Ark funnily enough. Dragon Force still impresses me to this too, the sprite count during battles is insane & gives them a really epic look.

The Saturn is also home to the best versions of Sonic 1, 2 & 3 with them being ported rather than emulated like they are elsewhere.

Concertoine3526d ago

There was something about Sega, they had an offbeat sense of humor and a lot of underdog, young talent looking to make their mark. It's sad that the last vestige for Sega's old charm is the Yakuza series.

Imo, Saturn and original Xbox are the most underrated consoles. The Dreamcast was never underrated, it was held in high regard in 1999 and even higher regard since. But the saturn was an unjust punchline for way too long.

ShottyatLaw3526d ago

I'll always be a Sega kid at heart. Panzer Dragoon Saga and SF Alpha 3 were probably my favorites on the Saturn. Looking back, this was probably my favorite generation. It was the first generation where I became a multiple console owner while the systems were all "current-gen," too.

Saturn was the best for 2D fighters. Nintendo brought the 3D platformers and OoT. I bought the PS1 last, but MGS and FF7-9 rounded out a fantastic generation.

I still own my Saturn, and I never regretted my purchase.

BillytheBarbarian3526d ago

I bought the Saturn when it first came out. Virtua Fighter was a big deal but then Virtua Fighter 2 came out and just blew the doors off of what games should move and look like. I'd put most Sega first party games up against anything on the Playstation and you can see the Saturn had stronger anti-aliasing which in turn made the games look cleaner. Virtua Fighter 2, Panzer Dragoon, Last Bronx, Die Hard Arcade and Burning Rangers are examples of how good 3-D games could look on Saturn.

Then the 2-D games were beasts and easily trounced Playstation versions with minimal slow down and flicker which plagued the Playstation.

3rd party: Playstation ports to Saturn happened all too often and is what made Saturn look terrible to your average buyer. From EA Sports to Cyber Sled and Die Hard Trilogy. Just ugly slow Playstation ports.

In owning the Saturn, the let down for me was the Sports games didn't get better. It took Dreamcast to get sports games going. NFL 2k was huge for me.

Also Saturn was weak in the Wrestling game department.
It was an important genre in the U.S. These games were huge during the 90s because the WWF/WCW were at war. Hogan jumped ship to WCW and guys like Steve Austin were just coming up. So when I see on store shelves WCW/NWO world tour, World Championship Wrestling, WWF War Zone, or Thunder coming out and looking good and all there was on Saturn was WWF In Your House from Acclaim. It was hard to be excited. WWF Wrestlemania Arcade and In your house were basically Mortal Kombat games with goofy moves. Playstation was getting a wealth of decent generic wrestling games along with WCW 3-D engined games. I could have imported Fire Pro for Saturn I guess but I didn't feel like sifting through Japanese text.

So for me the Saturn was just missing a few important games for it's time. While as a Genesis fan I was getting WWF Royal Rumble, Joe Montana Football, NHLs from EA and World Series Baseball the Saturn was limping in with sports that didn't play or look as good as the 16 bit versions. So when I found myself going back to Genesis for Sports I felt the Saturn was done. Dreamcast definitely fixed the sports problem and now you can see NBA 2k still thriving. If it wasn't for EA/NFL licensing arrangements I think NFL2k would be killing Madden by now as well.

The games you listed though are definitely great games. Nice blog.

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Oblivion Remastered Breaks 4 Million Players in 4 Days

Bethesda Game Studios writes: We are so grateful to the over 4 million of you that have already ventured into Cyrodiil with Oblivion Remastered. Thank you!

Obscure_Observer14h ago

Congrats goes to Todd and everyone at Bethesda and team Xbox for another huge milestone!

Hopefully after this huge success, Phil might greenlit New Vegas Remastered powered by UE5 as well.

Fingers crossed!

lukasmain12h ago

I wish for, at the very least, maybe Fallout 3 remaster? I mean the success of the show proves that not just hardcore gamers are ready for a great updated Fallout game. I believe it could potentially be even more successful than the Oblivion remaster. But I do like your idea of a New Vegas UE5 , because I actually never played that. Bethesda are better under Microsoft, I agree with you now after this "remaster". It's much cheaper and faster to do something like this for an old classic game. Reminds me of when Capcom started doing that with RE2. Gamer goodwill became skyhigh for Capcom. Fingers crossed indeed

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F3 Remastered already came out on the court documents, so unless it was cancelled, which sounds unlikely as it would the best they can hope to have to match any releases of the TV show since F5 isn’t coming out any time soon.

That said, I do agree that if this has proven to be a hit and I don’t see why F3 wouldn’t be if it gets the same level of treatment, they will probably want to do more

anast13h ago(Edited 12h ago)

It's on GamePass. According to Steam DB: it has a 190k peak, which is not close to 4 mil. It didn't even reach 500k on Twitch stats and owner estimations are hovering around 1 mil or less.

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lukasmain12h ago

Well done, despite not getting exact sales, this is still great news because the budget for this and the development time wouldn't have been much at all when compared to a full 6 or 7 year development window and the cost that would entail. So it does seem like a great success and even better when you consider that they shadow-dropped it without paid marketing. Hope this team is already past pre-production on another "remaster" of another classic, I'm personally hoping for Fallout 3 remaster

MaximusPrime_11h ago

Microsoft realised how stupid they had been and delayed following Sega's example.
There you go MS, worldwide lots more people own PS5 or PC than Xbox. You got the money you're desperate for.

To be truly Sega, don't bother releasing a new console. Just focus on software.

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Obscure_Observer9h ago

"To be truly Sega, don't bother releasing a new console. Just focus on software."

MS will continue to release new consoles as they´ll continue and make tons of money out PC, PS5 and Switch 2 as well.

Gamers on other platforms will happily pay full price for amazing Xbox games while we get everything day one on Game Pass.

It´s a win win for everyone.

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