Welcome to the New N4G

As you may have noticed, we are now live with the new Web site. We know this may be a big change for some people who prefer the old site, so please let me take a moment to go over some things and hopefully help you to adjust or see how much has changed but also how the developers have tried their best to give you the control to see the site the way you are accustomed to.

If you want a quick overview of the navigation of the new site, I've also provided some images below with descriptions of what each section does.

IT'S CUSTOMIZABLE
That's right, the default view of the site is not set in stone. As shown in one of the images below, you can click one button and change the site to look the same as the old site or even to make it even more text-focused from before. Currently these options are stored in a browser cookie, so clearing your cookies may result in you needing to switch your view back to what you like afterwards (as well as reset them when viewing from a new device). Future plans are to try and have this saved to your profile, though.

THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING
The developers are continuing to work on the site in order to make it the place where you can feel like you are getting what you want out of it. From improving on new features to giving you new ways to control what you see, the developers continue to work to improve N4G so it is a tool that truly allows you to get the news you want and that is important to you. So, please don't think that this is the end, it's the opposite.

USER CONTENT IS N4G CONTENT
Moving forward, user blogs and reviews will no longer be relegated to just a side bar, but will be placed among the same stream of news that people submit from other sites. User content will gain heat like the other content and will truly give a voice to our users who want to talk about the latest video game news or just share their review of the latest video game releases.

NO MORE BUBBLES; 10 COMMENTS FOR ALL
As promised, there are no more bubbles. Everyone can currently comment up to ten (10) times per submission. If you are interested in seeing this increased, please let the developers know via the feedback form to the right! You can still report on a user's comment using the drop-down arrow in the upper right of their comment.

THERE IS A DARK MODE
It's a little hidden, but you can click the 'Help & Info' area in the footer bar and you will see an option to 'Turn DarkMode On'.

SOME OF THE WAYS YOU CAN USE THE NEW SITE

[equal_youth]

I need to get used to it but i kinda like it. Wasn't there a way to give the layout a black background?

[Double_O_Revan]

Yea. I want my black background back.

Also, I no longer see the ability on Mobile to change my feed to 0 degrees instead of the default 50.

[developer]

Hi there, you can still do it by clicking the clock icon on the sub-menu.

[Christopher]

As mentioned, the Dark Mode is a little hidden in the footer. There should be some updates to improve contrast in text against the dark background soon.

Also, to your comment on 'setting your degrees option' it doesn't work like that. Viewing the 'degrees' page and viewing content over a certain degree doesn't change that preference on the home page, just acts as an alternative to the home page for content you want to see. If you want to go to that page primarily, I would suggest setting it as a bookmark of its own on your phone. Otherwise, the home page options are for switching between heat-based order or most recently published (newest to oldest) order.

[Kryptix]

After finding the list options, I like it better. Not the same as the old N4G, but as a work in progress, maybe we'll see new features that improve N4G instead of slightly stagnating it like how this new layout currently does.
I know it's just a thing of getting used to, but I felt that putting user content on the right in the front page was better for me because it categorized it more. Maybe one day we'll get an option to customize the front page even more, like instead of mixing user and N4G content together, we'll be able to split those two into different sections in list mode. Possibly choosing what content shows on the front page. I know there's a category option that lets you choose what to view, but I mean, I want the option to have certain combinations of content on the front page, like, single out rumors or something. Maybe there is an option like that, but I need help finding it.

I have a problem on mobile:

You know how there's different tiers of comments? Original comment, reply, and reply to reply? And when you view them on PC, it aligns the tiers of comments separately?

Well on mobile, it seems like reply and reply to reply are both in the same alignment. On my phone, both tiers are combined so it's difficult to tell which is which. I know that reply to reply has no blue "reply" option at the bottom, but that's really the only way I can tell the difference. This makes it hard for me to tell who replied to who even more.

On my phone, maybe it's the browser doing some sort of auto realignment, but I highly doubt it; I tested it on 2 browsers and the reply is properly aligned under original comment, but reply to reply isn't properly realigned under reply.

I can post a screenshot if it isn't like that for you on phone.

EDIT: Here it is. http://i.imgur.com/EGJzh9P....
You see how reply and reply to reply are in the same line? I don't like that since it doesn't much set both tiers apart.. Reply to reply should be under reply and slightly to the right. If you look on a desktop browser, it's proper. In this case, was the developer talking to equal_youth or azshorty? You won't know until you see that the developer has no reply option under azshorty which is somewhat confusing.

Also, I want a direct reply option, just like on YouTube. Where you can reply on any comment, leaving a "@username" before the comment. This way, it would be easier to check up on arguments or interactions because you will always get a notification if someone is trying to talk to you. This is a feature that would really put the new layout as a big step forward.

[DARKKENT]

Hate this new cluttered confusing layout

Why mess with simplicity

[developer]

Hi there, dark mode is in the footer, in the bottom.

[Double_O_Revan]

Thank you & thank you. Although, that Dark mode dying is a little hard to find if you didn't tell me where to look. (At least on Mobile)

[equal_youth]

Thanks :)

[Rebel_Scum]

Notifications in dark mode is unviewable. Just giving ya the heads up. And by that I mean you can't read the damn thing or tell which is new.

[chandamon]

great!

[jb227]

Yeah, once you get the trick of changing to list view & arranging news by time instead of popularity, it's pretty close to the original. Really glad the bubbles are gone so everyone has a voice. Seems like certain users would get targeted by others & they just waited in the wings to pull a bubble from them however they could manage.

The one suggestion I'd have is to show the users who agreed or disagreed, I think that would help foster actual conversations as opposed to people just downvoting anything they didn't like but couldn't rebuke. Over all it'll take some getting used to but it's not too bad.

[cyberwaffles]

Bubbles were the dumbest idea ever. Good luck ever staying on a forum full of fanboys that shut you down.

[steve30x]

You still only get ten posts though. I like the Idea that the bubbles are gone though because there were too many people debubbling for no good reason.

[jb227]

@cyberwaffles & steve30

Yeah I was having the same issue more recently. I'd kept the same amount of bubbles for over a year then all of the sudden it was like I was targeted by a small group of users who obviously didn't like anything I had to say even though I was always respectful of others & just voicing my opinions on games. I'm not sure how the bubble system worked in all honesty, because I'd get marked for 'off topic' when I wasn't & for 'trolling' when I was only ever responding to someone else w/ my own opinion. Meanwhile I saw some users calling others 'pathetic' & had one tell me that I was 'stupid' & 'whining like a little girl' when I was just voicing my opinion that didn't happen to jive w/ theirs. Always tried to bubble down for personal attacks when I'd see anyone doing that because if you have to resort to name calling, you don't deserve to be in a public forum w/ grown ups & actual human beings, but those people never got marked & kept all of their bubbles. Hopefully this new system can keep that stuff away. Some threads just turned mega hostile for no real reason, people attacking writers & other commenters just for sharing their opinions in a place created to do exactly that.

[starchild]

Yeah, it's going to take some getting used to, but I like a lot of the changes they've made. It's also cleaner and easier to use on mobile browsers.

Oh, and doing away with the bubble system is a very smart move. People can still show agreement or disagreement using the respective buttons, but now people don't get censored for merely having an unpopular opinion.

[cyberwaffles]

And what's sad is that the unpopular opinion is sometimes true but gets drowned out by the naysayers. This site is just a popularity contest. Like a witch being burned at the stake for believing differently than the rest of the community.

[Fin_The_Human]

I don't like it :(

Please give me the option to go back to the old site.

[equal_youth]

Have you tried the List option? It's at least better than the tablet design.

[Fin_The_Human]

Will try it.

Also why dont I get the red flashy thing anymore for notifications ?

[lelo2play]

This new version looks like crap. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

There should be a option to use the old site.

[BEASELY]

I'm just happy N4G is finally Mobile friendly.

[Imalwaysright]

I'm glad to know that this still a work in progress because right now this "new" N4g is worst in every possible way. at least give us the option to directly reply to people that reply to us.

[Christopher]

That is unlikely to change. It uses the same system of three-tier comments as it did before. So, the first two tiers get direct responses, the third tier does not.

The best way for it to ever see a change is to feedback it to the developers.

Just FYI, this is unchanged from the "old" N4G...

@below: Feedback any features you would like. That's how things happen, you guys tell them what you want and they take it from there. So, yes it's possible, but it relies on users informing them of their desires.

[Imalwaysright]

"Just FYI, this is unchanged from the "old" N4G"

But this is the "new" N4g :(

Anyway I found that mini list option and its better to me now. Is there any way to costumize the comments section as well or will it be possible in the future?

[Servbot41]

"Just FYI, this is unchanged from the "old" N4G... "
The one thing that needed to be changed. THE ONE THING.

[cyberwaffles]

Just make it like youtube where you can reply to everyone. Right now its too cumbersome and confusing.

[ninsigma]

It wouldn't need to change from 3 tier. If your comment is on the third tier and someone clicks reply, their comment could also be out on the third tier but at least we'd get a notification for and the 2nd tier comment won't have to get a notification for a comment directed at someone else. That's a pretty glaring issue in my eyes at this point. Other than that the new site is cool but I can't click the comments button under personal profile on my phone. I've given feedback on that.

[oasdada]

This is just worst in every way.. had to wait minutes just to be able to reply to u.. and please bring back pages, its fairly easy to loose track of where I was cause of the new "load comment" button on the bottom. Which was once a website I logged in every other minute is now a hassel for me just to see this ugly UI to catch news. Its becoming v difficult for me to come back to this website. Please isnt there a way to have both? A "classic" version button or something ?

[-Foxtrot]

That's right. Put it in the feedback section and a developer will get onto it right away...in about 7 years :)

[Christopher]

Or do nothing and it never changes. *shrugs*

[steve30x]

During the beta a few of us requested a dark mode and a few days later they gave us a dark theme.

[developer]

At a later stage there will be an update to the comment section where there will always be a reply button and on the inner tier it will just append @username in the post. People are doing this manually now already.

[DragonDDark]

@developer

I want it but nothing is happening :((((

[ninsigma]

That's exactly what I said above. Should have read further down :p
I'm assuming then that we will get a notification regardless of being a 3rd tier comment??

[Bdub2000]

People rarely like change... The changes aren't bad at all, they just take time to get used to them. Gotta keep innovating, can't stay he same forever.
And hopefully this new comment system restores a little civility amongst the community.

[LP-Eleven]

Glad it's customizable! Will take a little getting used to, but that makes it infinitely more useful, in my view!

[Iceball2000]

I don't mind it. It's nice and it's mobile friendly too. I use to use m.n4g.com. It'll take a bit to get use to. Is there away to go to lights off mode? I prefer a dark background.

[Goldeneye007]

This new layout is awful. It just looks like a bunch of shit was thrown on the floor. I'd really like to have the option of a list layout. We should be able to switch between list and grid.

[Christopher]

You should read the blog, then. We explain how you can change it to the old layout.

[Goldeneye007]

Thanks!

[xfiles2099]

Tell us how to change it back I really hate this new layout

[Kurisu]

I'm liking this new site. I didn't find the old layout very user friendly for mobile, so I always used the mobile view site. That was pretty basic though and you didn't get any notifications. Now that this has been revamped I will always use this new one :)

[Jag-T1000]

Don't tell me to go to a blog to learn how to change it, just tell me right now in this thread.

[FunAndGun]

You can change your view....did you read this post? 2 buttons on the side of main page.

[Goldeneye007]

Yeah, I read it thoroughly this time. All is well now.

[Double_O_Revan]

Mobile doesn't have the magnifying glass and the circular avatar. It only has a 3 line menu button. Hitting this either takes forever to load or crashes my browser. Can we get the circular avatar too on Mobile?

[Christopher]

The load times is likely an issue with the current caching of the site as it propagates to all regions. I'd ask for you to give it some time. As far as improving the mobile site, please use the feedback button to submit this sort of thing directly to the developers. I can tell them, but it matters a lot more when you folks tell them directly rather than me saying the same stuff over and over.

[FunAndGun]

Definitely miss the old N4G, but I know that's just because I was comfortable with it. Will take a little time to get into this new version. I am glad it is fairly customizable because I hate those huge blocks on the default view. Sometimes change is hard to get accustomed to but I guess it's inevitable at some point. Will still be coming to N4G to get my daily fix for now.

[starchild]

Definitely. I mean, I've been visiting N4G for over a decade (wow, time flies), so I've really gotten used to the way things were. But, hey, this feels fresh and does seem like an improvement. I'm sure I'll get used to it soon enough.

[annoyedgamer]

Time to bring out the pitchforks.

JK, but in all seriousness, just don't remove the thumb down options to make this a safe space.

[i8urCAKE]

how to change back to old ?

[MrSwankSinatra]

This

[kraenk12]

Reading helps.

[SolidSnake1989]

The one thing I miss are those hot news from "sister sites". I'm no anime or football freak, but sometimes I saw some articles that dragged my attention.

[Murdah]

You can find them in the bottom part of the site.

[SolidSnake1989]

Oh.. Looks like I missed them when scrolling down xD thanks! :D

[thricetold]

My frustrations have been diminished after learning I can revert (somewhat) back to the old layout. Who's idea was it to have the default style a bunch of crap thrown on the wall? Way too much thrown in my face all at once without giving me any additional info about what the article is about. Function over flash. Always.

[Christopher]

You can thank Search Engines for that. SEO is turning so that prioritization is given to sites with 'mobile friendly' designs. That means the main page that their spiders link are being tested for this, so the default is to aim for more mobile friendly by default but provide other options after the fact.

[ScamperCamper]

You make it sound like going ugly is the only way. No, it's not. It's lazy. One website version for all. m.n4g.com is not the most impossible concept ever.

[Elwenil]

No sir, I don't like it. [/Ren & Stimpy Mr.Horse Voice]

[b3l0kk]

bring back the black theme

[Murdah]

You can enable dark mode from the footer.

[Servbot41]

I hope whoever originally invented the mobile layout of "lets make everything different shapes and splattered all over the page haphazardly!" burns.

[MrSwankSinatra]

Yeah the new layout is pure garbage, I don't understand this mentality of fixing something that wasn't broken in the first place.

[RetrospectRealm]

Yeah, I really don't like it at all. It was pretty perfect before. Plus, in the pending section there is no way to see who made each post? Why?

[ScamperCamper]

When somebody falls in business, somebody else steps up. The question is whether we all must suffer forever with these ugly, puke enticing designs. I have 24-inch monitor. Thanks for wasting it now.

[Dipper]

I'm OK with it. Obviously it's gonna take a bit of time to get used to it but I dig it so far.

[-Foxtrot]

"What is this, there's something wrong with the site...I don't like change"

;)

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[-Foxtrot]

No but seriously. One change is needed and that's to put the blog/user reviews back on the side. They just get lost in the bottom, I found this blog by chance.

It's heavily going to reduce the views on them.

I just don't see why the developers, when creating the new site didn't have a huge development stage with polls, articles and the like on this site so they would know what we wanted changed or things we wanted to be kept the same.

Surely then the end product would have been something the majority of people like.

[DefenderOfDoom2]

the N4g blog /user reviews is one of my favorite things i like about N4g . I would also like to have that section on the right side, up top of front page . Please N4g developers, please try your best to make it so. Thanks

[Ozmoses]

ugh... I was not expecting this when I clicked to come to N4G... I need the classic back.. It was so sleek and simple.. I dunno if I can get behind this new one but I'll give it a try

[NukaCola]

I don't know why this isn't asked, or maybe I am missing it...but what is your CRANK score?

[kraenk12]

It's my invention actually!

[RetrospectRealm]

CRank has been around forever. It's Contributor Score From the FAQ:

"The CRank or Contributor Rank determines how many news post you can make each day. With a Crank of 5 you can post a maximum of 5 stories within a 24 hour time frame. The more news you posts the higher your CRank will get. If you edit your news post according to the N4G Guidelines your Crank will increase faster. On the other hand members who keep ignoring the N4G posting guidelines and just copy and paste text from other websites without doing the proper editing will get their CRank lowered. See the N4G Guidelines and News Posting Tips for more info about proper editing of news posts."

[Relientk77]

List view ftw

[lociefer]

im not saying you should bring the open zone back, but you should bring the open zone back, PLEASE BRING IT BACK !, it was the best part of n4g back in the dayz and it was also hillarious

[Sunny_D]

YES. Someone else who remembers and loved the Open Zone like me! Man, there were some great personalities that were made because of it last gen.

[Genuine-User]

Thanks for all the info. I'm loving the new mobile friendly interface.

[ScamperCamper]

So given a choice at home, you're sitting with your 5-inch screen rather than say, 12-inches+?

[Genuine-User]

I am usually on my laptop when I'm at home.

[DefenderOfDoom2]

For me , nothing is better than laying in my bed using my PS4 controller and winding down after playing video games and going to the N4g site thru my 'internet browser' on my PS4 and 42 inch TV .

[WeAreLegion]

Can't comment, like/dislike, or customize on my work computer. :(

[PizzaSteve]

I came to N4G because I like the design. I left other sites because they changed and now N4G changed. Right now I don't like it but I will try at least 1 month to get use to it. If I can't I'm gonna find another gaming site.

[ScamperCamper]

I'm with you 100%. The only reason I will stay here is because other options are just as ugly.

[oasdada]

Dont like it. Isnt there any way we can have both interfaces? Thanx

[TheColbertinator]

lol the hell is this?

[georgenancy]

Kinda miss the bubble system tbh

[RetrospectRealm]

The bubble system has been pretty much gone with for a while now though.

[b3l0kk]

did not even look at the footer.. thanks. Dark theme is more like it :)

[RetrospectRealm]

Some pages with the dark theme make it very hard to see though.

[Hoffmann]

Holy this is weird.

[Deep-throat]

End of an era.

[ScamperCamper]

Do what you want but it's actually idiotic. People weren't leaving the site were they? People didn't write about how much they hated the layout did they? This is a case, like many others, where you change a design to something that suits you rather than the visitor. If you can make and show the justification (like dwindling page views) then I buy into this. Otherwise it's self serving rubbish. You would know really fast if you actually let people decide right now, whether they go back to the original site. People fell in love with your site, but you thought of just messing that up. All for the sake of trends and peer pressure. Dark mode? Wow, you have to be kidding me. Real brands know why people use their brand. I'm now looking elsewhere for replacements. What I can say is this. If say a year ago I came here for the first time, you would not have me bookmarking or returning. I would be gone. Outta here. So this imo is taking liberty with your loyal audience. You could have gone with a separate mobile design and left the original as is. But that's not trendy enough I guess.

[Christopher]

***This is a case, like many others, where you change a design to something that suits you rather than the visitor. If you can make and show the justification (like dwindling page views) then I buy into this.***

https://developers.google.c...

You probably won't understand this, but this is why sites have been changing in the last few years. It is the future and there's nothing we can do about it. it requires change.

[Hoffmann]

Sites can change without trying to become what N4G is now. And nope..Mobiles will never replace desktops.

And optimation for mobiles won't catapult N4G to the top google places now.

[ScamperCamper]

I know a lot about websites and design. There are two mind sets. One is to create a barf bag website that suits mobile and desktop at the same time. Yes, the ones that show the desktop user what is essentially a smartphone website. Like only a few pieces of content on a massive big 24-inch display. HUGE overblown text, etc.

The sensible choice is having a mobile version of a website that doesn't kill the desktop user. Nobody using their smartphone will complain about what n4g did. Obviously. The point is that a mobile site can co-exist with a normal site version. However, trends are trendy for a reason.

My eyes don't lie. I see ugly and nothing changing that. The only option I have is to find a website that offers what you used to have. When I'm on my mobile, I'll visit here.

It's not just N4G and I get that. However, the main point is this. If you had this design when I first started coming here, I can guarantee you that I would be using a different website for getting video game news.

To suggest Google made you do it? That's a cop out. You don't have to kill a good website in order to accommodate mobile users. It's only when you want to be lazy and or short sighted. N4G is not alone on it, but I was hoping they would see through the peer pressure. Ask regular visitors. Do you want the new or old site. Poll it. However you won't because you are more worried about being trendy than smart.

[Christopher]

***The sensible choice is having a mobile version of a website that doesn't kill the desktop user.***

If you do that, your SEO goes way down. They rate your optimization on the main site, not a mobile subdomain like we used to have.

***@Christopher, here is the tradeoff. Whatever you think you might gain in SEO, you will certainly lose because those who dislike this will look elsewhere. ***

Not likely. Majority of N4G activity comes from guest accounts who link to us from search engines or don't even utilize commenting elements. Also, a massive number of our users are on mobile devices primarily, not desktop.

I get how you would think this, but for N4G it's just not true at all.

And, I say that as a Web developer who has no say in what N4G does or doesn't do, I merely have the job of administering the site, not developing it or making decisions on how to develop it.

[ScamperCamper]

@Christopher, here is the tradeoff. Whatever you think you might gain in SEO, you will certainly lose because those who dislike this will look elsewhere. The hope there is that all sites turn ugly for desktop and change the design that people liked and then everyone is not going to have an advantage.

So you will certainly lose some. Will those be gained by some imaginary SEO hope? N4G is the giant and should not worry about pathetic things like SEO. If you're #1, then what is there to worry about? What might happen in the future?

Here is one thing I know. Google isn't going to make SEO obvious. They aren't going to say, make one site even though it makes no sense, and we will provide nice SEO results to those that follow.

If it's me, unless my site starts to tank, I'm not sacrificing my user experience just to satisfy some Google scripture. I think part of it is self respect. Time will tell. Competition creates change and if people are smart, they will provide a desktop experience that makes sense. The way it's going though, every site will suck on desktop and then we are stuck until there are a few rebels that arise and start making websites that aren't smartphone layouts stretched onto a big screen. Then again, maybe 70% of your visitors are using mobile screens and this change is done to cater to them. At least I could understand that as being a reason. Saying it was done because of what Google wants to me is just something I cannot respect.

[M-M]

I think the new layout was executed poorly. All of the things that I'm seeing could have been added to the classic site with little compromise. If you wanted flat design, you could have just added it to the old one. Don't know what's up with the IGN clone design.

[Immorals]

Read the article, changed to minilist, the main page is fine, but the actual article/comments page is horrible one my mobile. My tablet is charging atm, so can't compare to that.

[Number-Nine]

This is horrible. Use to be user content friendly but now its completely off the first page. The layout is awful too and very cumbersome.

[Poroz]

YUCK. I am leaving...

[boodi]

one of the few things WORTH reading here on n4g was page layout , which was absolutely spot..foranyone ..
and you need to change it ( for mobile ? )
unbelievable..
if it remains like this i'm leaving , as i dont like landing here now
the layout feels so cheap , one cant refrein but ask why

why cloning anything else ( IGN i.e. ) when the old layout was good ?
why no way/option to keep the old layout ?

[ScamperCamper]

It works like this. Website owners decide whether they want to create a website that will work on any device. Then you get this. Optionally, you can create a mobile version of your website which is triggered based on your screen size. Ultimately large screen users get stuck with a smartphone sized website on a big screen when owners try to serve up one site for all.

[Avery]

Is it me or am I not seeing the ability to social media share info inside of articles? It should be right at the top IMO like it used to be.

[Knushwood Butt]

Is it a bug that there are non-approved articles that appear multiple times at the top level?

[Knushwood Butt]

Oh, and my post above didn't show up for me without a refresh on Android. And then had to re-scroll through a ton ogf replies.

Additional effort.

[Knushwood Butt]

Uuughhh

[Perjoss]

Anyone else having this issue? when browsing on iphone i regularly get redirected to download some game from the app store :(

[developer]

Hi there, we are looking into it!

[Hoffmann]

Where can I see the oldest pending stories now, where the ones with the most approvals so far?

[Hoffmann]

Turned on dark mode, looks nice on the frontpage but the font is way too dark.

Overall this new layout is pretty bad. Thought about leaving even but I want to give it time to improve.

[developer]

Hi there, we are tweaking the dark mode now.

[StifflerK]

I like it.
I'm not sure what everything does yet, but I like it.

[chrisx]

Gosh this new layout sucks on mobile! Its horrible, totally

[Sonital]

This is hosted on Azure, behold the power of the cloud! ;)

[drizzom]

How does one downvote a site?

[Miss_Weeboo]

"you can click one button and change the site to look the same as the old site" sorry people, but how? please help me

[dota2champion]

dope

[gigakain]

I will get used to it. Looks nice.

[Chinkyinc18]

Looking at the layout, the first thing take comes to mind is:
When you try to fix something that isn't broken, you only have one outcome...it gets broken.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

Gonna take some getting used to but I feel like now I can see more posts then usual which is nice. As for the bubble system, I don't think it will be common for people to be making 10+ comments on one post but I still feel like there shouldn't be a restriction on the amount of comments you make.

[OV1]

Well I've only been here for a week so this transition will be easy. Besides, I like the new format. Looking forward to working on the site.

[Rebel_Scum]

I hate it

[Black0ut]

Sorry but the new N4G is complete ****. Clunky and all over the place. What was wrong with the old??

[Germany7]

I'm kinda lost, lol, at least the list view looks like the old site.

[MeteorPanda]

me like! no longer looks like a dodgy site ^ ^

[StormLegend]

I'm sorry but this is terrible! I hate the comment section and all of that crap on the homepage. I can't even tell what's new anymore.

[Sweetbrandigirl]

OMG ! How do I switch back ? I hate it and was completely happy with the way it was.

[DefenderOfDoom2]

I know you said blogs from N4g community are mixed in with stories . But, do we still have are own N4g blog section on this new site?

[developer]

Hey! You can find a designated User content/Blogs area in the bottom part of the front page. /dev

[DefenderOfDoom2]

thanks the blog section is my favorite part in N4g.. Funny i wrote my comment on Ps3 last night but it was so hard to navigete thru new N4g i did not know that my comment made it the new site. Sunday night i wrote a few comments on the old N4g site and had no problem using my Ps3 interner browser. So i guess my point is the PS3 ' internet search no longer works with the new N4g site in standard definition.

Okay , pretty cool that i can edit this comment 9 hours later . Just wanted to add the new N4g site is working better today while using my PS3 'internet search' in standard def., which i am using to edit this comment . My 'hi def.' TV broke last Monday, so i can not use my PS4 unless i have a converter adapter . So i should have a new TV and the ability to use my PS4 again within the next 2 weeks or so.

[Majister-Ludi]

Nooooooooooooo

[nix]

Bubble system gone? Super.
Old mobile site gone? That's a shame.

And.. I can't differentiate the thread comments on mobile. 2nd and 3rd tiered comments has the same width of space. In one thread, only two ppl were replying to my comment (which was in 3rd tier) but the rest of the comments (2nd tier) appeared to be talking to me still. I know which tier it was because i remember it from the last site design. Is there a way to fix that?

And the front page? What is that? Wasn't that everyone's freaking problem when the beta came out? And yet you went ahead with it? So Microsoft like. The whole reason i liked old mobile look was that it was easy to come and see top stories and check new articles. It was easily findable.

User friendly: Zero.

Ugh.

On the front page, the "fire" icon doesn't work. It shows the same for "now", "today", "week" etc.. And once you click that button, it refuses to go back to the default landing page...

Ok so i used the "mini list" to mimic the old mobile look, i can live with that but the fire 🔥 icon still is broken. Please fix that.

[SegaGamer]

I'm half and half, i kinda like it. I like that i can customise it a bit, but the comments section is horrible. I don't like having to click the show more replies button, it was fine the way it was before. All comments should be easy to read without needing to open more of them.

I'll get used to it though, but to be honest, i don't really see the need for change, it was fine the way it was.

[loQon]

I just want to say thank you. I've been coming on to this site pretty much at least once a day for well over 10 years now. I'm not active but I lurk & read a lot. I think you guy's did a fantastic job on the new look. I appreciate all the knowledge, laughs, & entertainment I've gained over the years from everyone involved here(content providers, commenters, developers, trolls, & all). Great site, congratulations on this awesome upgrade.

[MaximusPrime_]

Have you fixed spam bots too? This is annoying every times it appears. i suggest in new members section, there should be a box with changing image, so new member needs to add a word or numbers what they see in the image before they proceed. This should prevent spam bots.

[MagicBeanz]

Just happy bubbles are gone, seriously one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in a comment section. The new site still needs some work, replying is still a bit of a mess but overall its better.

[Atomicjuicer]

Goodbye N4G

[The Great Melon]

Two things I noticed.

(i) I immediately switched to the dark theme, but the text in this post is very dim on the dark theme. Increasing the brightness of the font a little bit will vastly increase the legibility on the dark theme.

(ii) The switch to the circular profile pictures greatly limits what you can display. Everything from the previous site doesn't work well with new amount of space. Shrinking the image down in accommodation makes things look better, but this is done at the expense of the image size. I would much prefer having either a slightly larger circular profile picture or using a square image to maximize the viewable portion. As it is now, about half the images on a quick scroll down this page are unrecognizable due to the size.

[TheSaint]

It's fine and all but I prefer the old one.

[Hoffmann]

Over 350 stories are pending now. I predict they will be around 400 in some hours.

[bunt-custardly]

Yep because you now need 10 approvals for stories to be posted even if they are days old. Someone posted this is not the case and that it just says 10 approvals needed but obviously hasn't tested it because I tried just now and it doesn't work.

A complete mess.

[Smitty2020]

Would be nice to choose which would I could use, seems to be too messy for me

[developer]

Hey! You can select between Trending and Latest, and there are four different view options. You`ll find the cuzt buttons to the right of the front page feed. Thanks! /dev

[URNightmare]

Are there any other websites like N4G that don't look like this?

[gamer7804]

not a big fan of the "load more" for pages, if you could see the page count you could always go to a certain page easily. its just not easy to see when a thread is done if you want to read it all.

[Nivekki]

Yeah it's a pain in the arse. Especially if you go onto an article and then go back a page, then you have to load them up again because it goes back to square one.

[gunnerforlife]

Sorry but this is where I stop using this website! You've made it a mess!! I've been here since 2007 and I've liked all the layouts! But this is a mess! But I can se why you've done it! The adverts now are huge and there's no way to miss or ignore them once scrolling down. Thanks for ruining the website.

[developer]

Hey! Sorry you feel this way. Have you tried the list view? You can customize the front page feed to show latest stories, and you have multiple view options aswell.

Hope you stick around, as we will implement many cool features in the upcoming weeks!

/dev

[mixelon]

I like it. And thank you for your continued efforts.

Great to see the end of bubbles.

Was happy to see "Majority of N4G activity comes from guest accounts who link to us from search engines or don't even utilize commenting elements." - that's all people should need to know when they're calling for large media sources to be blacklisted. The vocal userbase isn't inherently representative of the reader base as a whole. It's a neautral news aggregation site not a clique.

It'll take a while to get used to the new look, but oh well. :D

[Hoffmann]

6 hours after my comment and now almost 400 stories are pending.

[developer]

This will be fixed asap! Thanks for reporting. /dev

[Hoffmann]

I hope so, sucks for the many submitters with stories that are not noticed because being buried among others ^^

[bunt-custardly]

The issue is the time based reduction in approvals needed is not working any more.

[sAVAge_bEaST]

new site. 2/10

[k2d]

Having issues with headlines being shortened in desktop browsers. In Chrome to be exact.

[Jmanzare]

I hate it

[raymantalk1]

can you still search for a user/friend ?

[cyberwaffles]

I love the new layout but have one recommendation and a couple of questions.

- Option to reply to every specific comment. Not optional for everyone.
- Do we have the ability to embed pictures and video clips now instead of posting links?
- Updates on upvotes?

[xrapperkdx]

I'm sad. I was able to log on and view the whole website while it was in "beta". Now that it's live i get booted off. Not N4G's fault but my employers internet restrictions. -_-

[Nyxus]

Is the site monitor function gone?

[PixelGateUk]

why can't we see who submitted a post on the pending section?

[Christopher]

You can, you just have to click through to the submission. Who submitted something shouldn't be a priority at first glance, though, right? I mean, we're not targeting specific people or looking for specific people to just approve, are we? We're actually reading through the pending area and approving what should be approved and the like, right?

[PixelGateUk]

Not sure why you're on about 'targeting specific people' it's just nice to see whose posted what and on what topic. In fact the only person i know who does that has already been mentioned in private to you. Just seems like a odd change to make from the original format

[PoSTedUP]

ouch.

[GrimmyReaper]

I like it. Looks clean. Will need a bit to get used to it, but I like what I'm seeing.

[scark92]

Having the upvote highlighted after you clicked it would be nice, when you get a chance to make new changes!

[Psychotica]

I am surprised N4G doesn't have a mobile application.

[Antifan]

Still no official android app?

[GTgamer]

in short i hate it

[LOL_WUT]

Horrible layout. Im going to have to find a better website for gaming news because this is just awful. Wished N4G couldve waited till after E3 ;)

[v_eno_m]

bravo

[DefenderOfDoom2]

well the ps3 'internet search' does not work this new site. My guess is maybe the new N4G site has left millions of users with older devices behind ?
edit^^ my PS3 'internet search' in standard def . , is working better today with the new N4g site . But, i stil can not type anything at all to N4g staff using the 'feedback' section, using my PS3 .

[Damien1801]

Your new N4G sucks.

[Jag-T1000]

I don't like it. Everything is huge on my phone and I don't care to read over all the posts anymore.

[steve30x]

Never mind. I found dark mode at the bottom.

[Trilithon]

sad to see the old one go

[EazyC]

I am such a luddite. I can't remember a website overhaul that I actually preferred... Or, perhaps more accurately "didn't hate". PayPal, YouTube, IGN, and now N4G. I will keep this for another week to change my curmudgeonous ways.... But unless I'm a total convertee I'm going back to N4G-OG!

[EliteGameKnight]

How do I put my favorites on the header? do I need to open the extension every time I want to get to the pages I actually care about?

[MegaRay]

I dont like the new N4G, but hey, at least we can bring the dark background. That something...

[Servbot41]

How do you hide opinion pieces? Opinions aren't news, they're opinions.

[Toiletsteak]

It looks a lot nicer, it was a little confusing at first but i have been looking around and it's actually pretty simple.

[KentBenMei]

I hate needing to click that clock in the top just to make N4G work like before. Dark mode and ten comments for everyone is definitely an upgrade (but just having unlimited comments would be better, why an arbitrary limit at all?) but I prefer the original site's simple look. Overall not a bad upgrade but unnecessary, you could have just added features rather than doing an overhaul.

[D3athc3ll]

Love the new site - N4G you are the best of best sites for gaming. Thanks for the great work and this is from my heart!

[asadachi]

I used to get quick information just by coming to this site, now it all seems like a jumbled mess. Wish you would go back to the old style. Innovation is not always improvement.

[Ezz2013]

I don't like it :(

[Kreisen]

One of the few reworks that havent led me to stop visiting the site so yeah its alright. I wouldnt say its better, plenty of things are now more annoying then before but i can deal with it.

On a side note, WTF is up with everything being reworked to have large pics? For mobile it just means there is more to load in, and on PC it means more scrolling and less to see. Its goddamn stupid and i wish it would stop.

[dkj400]

Where the hell are the pages!? So when it comes to events like E3 the next day I'm supposed to click Load More about 100 times and then painfully scroll through this huge page? Complete garbage. Any navigation without pages is crap.

[daynnight365]

I wanna say earlier today I bashed the new look, but I believe that was a little premature and it was a reaction to the drastic difference. I'm already kinda digging it lol

[eyeDEVOUR]

PLEASE INCREASE ALL FONT SIZE

[343_Guilty_Spark]

website needs a dark mode badly.

[sorane]

New site is a mess. Much much worse than the old style. Why so many scripts? I used to be able to navigate the site without having to mess with my Noscript addon. Now the site has countless useless scripts that do nothing but make it more of a mess to use. Reminds me of Gametrailers years ago when they had a great site then for some useless reason decided to redo the site for the worse. Look what happened to them.......

[suli12345]

This website works so perfectly and smoothly on my Samsung s7 edge. It's like a mobile site but at the same time it's not. Well done N4G, well done!

[Majin-vegeta]

This nrw layout is trash change it back!

[Errefus]

i like it but what happened to my friend list feed?

[Mr-Dude]

Yeah, and the ignore button...

[Protagonist]

Also get rid of the Up and Down Vote system and the Score system... whats it for anyway. And let people have infinite "bubbles".

[SuicidalTendencies]

So tired of all these sites going to a cell phone or ipad layout. You know, some of us still use a good'ol desktop to browse the internet. I know, weird, right? Damn ADD generation. At least the bubbles are gone and the stupid agree/disagree buttons.

[Agent_hitman]

Finally! There's no more bubble + and - buttons trolls used to abuse. Bad guys and trolls are using it for to suppress and retaliate the thoughts of the others.

In old N4G if you posted a comment, whether it is constructive criticism or opinion. If the fanboys of the other camp disagrees with your posts, they are like legions of bad guys pushing that ''-'' to decrease your bubbles to 1. In that way you won't be able to express your thoughts anymore, and that's depressing and unfair situation, you can only read one sided comments in this site most of the time. That's one of the main reasons why I don't usually post comment in the old N4G.

And now the new N4G is online, I can now post comments without being scared. No one can harass us now people. No more bullying from people with one sided views.

Thankfully N4G has seen that flaws and removed that unnecessary feature so that everyone can express their thoughts freely without suppression from trolls.

[MrSwankSinatra]

you don't lose bubbles by disagrees

[generalthadeape]

Are you planning or do you already have an app I can dowload to make it easier to read the articles on the go?

Every single app I've tried in the past had serious problems crashing all the time.

[Rachel_Alucard]

Unless I'm missing something I wish there was a way to filter articles to show only above 50○. Also I hate having to reclick "load more" everytime I hit back on the browser after clicking on an article if it was way down at the bottom.

[cash_longfellow]

Like +1! Thanks for getting rid of the bubbles also.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

The "pending" section is missing the drop down list of sections it used to have.
Previously, if we wanted to view pending articles for a particular system, the drop down menu let us filter the stories for that relevance, but now that's gone.

Might wanna put that search capability back.

[Christopher]

That drop-down list is there on the right-hand side.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

You mean the one that starts with the word "stories"?
That list is for the various types of pending story; it doesn't show the list of consoles connected directly to pending stories.

The old system had a filter function drop-down list just above the list of pending articles, that showed each console as a category, with the pending stories directly related to said console.
When I clicked on PS4 from that drop-down list, for example, only stories connected to PS4 would show up.

That list is now gone, and it makes finding articles tied to particular consoles harder to do without it.
So unless the staff have done something different to serve as that function and haven't informed us [which just makes things worse], there is currently no filter function for various consoles in the Pending section.

[s1ngleshot98]

i'm definitely not digging the new interface. feels like clutter mess. if n4g doesn't go back to its legacy layout, i'm gonna have to go elsewhere for my gaming news.

[maulberto3]

Still having a hard time gtting used to it, before news were so easy to point and read, now I have a hard time just browsing and trying to see what's interesting news and what's not...

[roadkillers]

Well this is going to stop me from reading anything that isn't the 'hottest'.

[LordCancer]

in the age of blogo sites with screen sized picture articles my scroll wheel and finger thanks you for the two list views, what a godsend, i really like the new ui option. thanks!

[Mr_Luke]

I'm getting used to it but i still prefer the old layout.

[chandamon]

Thanks for the efforts! I am loving it

[chandamon]

testing :)

[saimcheeda]

Not a fan of this layout but I'm sure I'll get used to it!

[Grimbarian]

I abhor change so never going to be a fan, it'll either grow on me or I'll move elsewhere :)

[Publicglutton]

We need an option to put our favourites in the header...Please.

[john2]

How can we delete a story?

[Game4r]

It looks cool, but feels weird to use

[Ogygian]

I'm using it on my tablet with the list layout. I don't like the images being on the left. The problem is that they're not very descriptive, so I tend to look at them after reading the title. Naturally, we read from left to right, therefore the optimal layout is text - image, which allows us to more intuitively understand each submission. This is what has annoyed me the most about the new site, and it seems like a step backwards.

[Mikeyy]

Is this the Matrix?

[Grimbarian]

How do I pin the few games I want to follow at the top like the old site so I can look at news specific to those games only?

[bnaked]

The best example for "never change a running system" in years. This site was a 10 out of 10 site. Now, with the changes, it's just awful. It was well structured, it was clear and simple, it was a perfect site for game news. The new design is just annoying and confusing, what a mess, thank you N4G for making this place a bad place.

Edit: Ok, I have discorvered the "list" option, it's now at least similar to the old Site...

[Grimbarian]

Agree 100% the only thing that made me come here day after day was that I can track specific games I'm interested in and see news relevant to them all collated together, where's that option in this new site????????

[bnaked]

I just added Uncharted 4 to "my favourite Channels" by clicking on the star. I can find it now by clicking on the three dots next to Vita and DS. But i don't like it that way. And by changing the layout to "list" it looks similiar to the old site.

[Mr-Dude]

How do I ignore other users?

[GMR_PR]

Take over Ad is conflicting with the footer. All link in footer take you to ad target page.

[AleksHO]

I don't like it. The old list was joust more practical... Now i have problems when searching for articles i am interested in.

[Grimbarian]

This.

[Hoffmann]

That submissions still need 10 approvals even after a day is like a deathstrike for many of them. Its good that the oldest etc options are back but thats not enough to reduce the giant number of over 400 pending submissions right now. You would otherwise need twice as many active approvers to reduce it.

[Nyxus]

No they still only need 3 after a day, it just appears as though they need 10 because it still says 0/10. But they do get approved with just 3 approvals.

[Hoffmann]

Ahh ^^ good to hear, so its just a minor thing to fix. I guess people just don'z know it though and thats why so few of the stories got approvals

[Trilithon]

Bogus! lol

[ZombieStalker]

You need to test your site using multiple browsers and devices. The customize and grid options buttons are missions using Safari (using iPad). If I switch the Chrome, the buttons are in the middle of the page on the far right, partially off screen.

HORRIBLE format (which it appears to be the case for the majority of people posting here). People didn't like the beta, why would that be different for this version? I may be looking for another gaming news source. Previous version was a great use of space and efficient, this version takes up tons more space with giant graphics.

Update:
Finally changed the view to "List" yet the icons at the top are still huge. Scrolling the list at the top works but some of the icons are messed up. Ex. Red "HOT" icon is on top of the scroll icon ("<"). And why do you require a user to scroll left or right on the top screen using icons??? And 4 scrolls to the left/right to see all the content on the top. Really??? What mainstream site requires that??? Site is very inefficient and bloated. And every device and browser requires you to set your preferences independently. I see you are looking to see about making that info tied to your profile. That should have been resolved before going live with this version of the page. Site needs tons of work!

[Wrex369]

Love the changes, makes it so much nicer to surf on mobile, also finally made an account! Lol

[Fin_The_Human]

Hey mods.

I am getting use to the new look but it only feels ok on my laptop but feels horrible on my smart phone and i tried diffrent layout styles.

Also why dont I get notification anymore telling me that someone has replied to my comment...it works some times but does not work other times.

Also thank you for removing the bubble system, we Xbox fans who are a minority here thank you since we cant be silenced anymore by the PS fans.

[DarkBlood]

how do i know if something is a blog because those aren't the kind of things i read on this site?

[TimeSkipLuffy]

ugly.

[esmittystud101]

If I click my notifications one time, it takes the symbol off my PC and I can't find the others I haven't looked at. Is there a way to find notifications again?

[masterfox]

So who else press the customization button(layout view) to make N4G look a bit like the old N4G ?, I definitely did :D

[blackblades]

I only have a couple of issues. When I click notice and go to one of my comments it doesn't go to the comment but ends up at the bottom or top and I'll have to search for it and it's annoying. Another thing it does the same when my phone screen goes off. Both issues are one mobile don't know about computer site.

[Nineball2112]

Same thing is happening to me. Yeah, it's not really useful when it does that.

[blackblades]

Are you getting repeats of the same article, when scrolling down.

[Nineball2112]

No, I'm not seeing that, blackblades. There are some wonky things going on though. I think things will smooth out after a few weeks. I did submit feedback on the comment issue though. I have to agree with you. It's pretty annoying.

[zackdollars]

I don't see why the comments are limited to 10. This limit will seldom be a problem, but to make a thriving comment section, it shouldn't be limited at all. If someone abuses it, just delete the comments.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Where's the "ignore" feature?
That's something we need reinstated.

[AG6686]

I didn't like this at first but I've already got use to it. I no longer have to zoom in to read stuff on mobile and everything loads quicker.

[2v1]

Trying to find another game new site , this one had it charm for me but is lost now.

[Grimbarian]

Same, the big thing for me was being able to "bookmark" the 5 or 6 games I'm actively following and each time I visit very quickly and simply being able to switch between them, to me that was the core feature of the site that set it apart.

[subtenko]

Thanks chris for the dark mode in the comments reply. yea its in the footer everyone. who knows I might switch back to lite mode.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

I don't think you should be able to comment on really old posts. I just had a reply from a post over 1 years old.

[SolidStoner]

I was used to the old style more, now I visit it rarely and maybe will stop visiting altogether, its slower, bigger, more funky, like on phone.... its like this site wants to kill off people from Europe...

[Mpl90]

The amount of pending news makes me think it'll be much more difficult to get published than before, I didn't remember seeing 400+ news waiting for approval before. I don't know how to take it and why this is happening :P

[Dangerous]

Kinda like it , I need to get used to it.

[Clown_Syndr0me]

I'm getting used to it now. I'm glad the bubbles have gone, losing bubbles because people disagreed with your opinions was ridiculous. If a comment is unacceptable for whatever reason it should be reported, removed by admin and perhaps a ban in place.
A lot of people lost bubbles over fair comments just because they were attacked by fanboys.

[Fullmetalevolust]

I like that you can comment on top and on the bottom of the comment section.
However, I don't want to load endlessly to see more pages, I wish it'd go from page 1 and so on. Am I oblivious to that option?

[StormLegend]

The List view needs to be the default view when we click on the website.

[dreamoner]

Make the list layout default please till you add such options to profiles.

[Hewso]

Approvals just aren't coming now. Since the change I have had 5 articles fail to get approval and not one has gotten approved. Yet in the old N4G, in over 300 submissions I never had an article fail to get approval. Something has changed and it is not for the better

[LoveSpuds]

Love the look of the new site, congrats.

Have to say, the comment sections are already taking a turn for the worse now that bubbles have gone. Lots of the more immature trolls turning conversations into slanging matches.

[Phil32]

With approvals needing to be at 10/10 now no matter what, buried stories (or ones that don't get 10 approvals as soon as they're posted) generally have a death sentence, or in N4G's terms, serve as failed posts now. Not liking that at all.

[FITgamer]

So what happened to the "Ignore" feature? Comment section is slowly, but surely turning into a IGN disaster. It would be nice to have that feature back.