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Brownghost

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Has the Media and the Government gone ballistic on the subject of video games?

Recently this year we have seen much violence that many believe is caused from violent video games. Now there are video games that have shown excessive gore, strong language, and other themes that promote violence(bulletstorm, ninja gaiden, gta 4,god of war, etc) but I'm sick of biased people who don't understand that we have other things violence and terror.

If you ever took United States history in high school you may remember a certain movie called "Birth of a Nation" that I believe is a very controversial movie and racist that should be banned, now I know what your saying it was made in 1915 and it was a silent movie what can it do, it brought back the KKK but even bigger and powerful.

Now for books, the most purchased book and most robbed book in the world is the bible. I've seen many stories where psychopaths who commited acts of violence because "God" told them too now I have nothing against the bible but if it was a video game and this certain psychopath said that someone told him to commit the act with the words "would you kindly" that confession would cause an uproar and give bad credit to video games. Aren't we all tired of when the father or friend of a killer says that he plays MW2 or GTA san andreas that we auto automatically that we forgot what we think off and focus on video games. I bet everyone remembered when fox said "bulletstorm is the worst video game" now I bet they didn't even play it once they just watched 5 minutes of gameplay and said there opinion.

People and the media has to stop with this nonsense what we need is better parents to buy for their kids these days and actually read the rating labels and friends of non matured adults, sometimes tell them your opinion if they shouldn't buy this game and an off topic question but take a break from video games for every few hours it could save your life and your name on The Sun.

thorstein4680d ago

You make a good point about the bible. More people have been killed or tortured in its name than all of video games. Which, when given the total number of games sold, outnumber that of the bible, but gamers, as a group have never set forth to harm, maim, or convert others (by the sword) to gaming.

Nice analogy.

ainsz4680d ago

Well gamers (trolls) are forever trying to convert every other gamer to their console are are atleast bashing the other console. Just saying.

Brownghost4680d ago

at least someone got my point thanks for the feedback

theonlylolking4680d ago

Some people just say God told them to kill someone as a way to make them see more innocent.

thorstein4679d ago

Have you ever seen the site atheistsnever.com? It is a link site to tons of stories of just that ilk. Don't spend too much time there though, it gets depressing.

The Matrix4679d ago

Nice analogy stole from Assassin's Creed. :p

Brownghost4679d ago

nah i got it from a 10,000 facts app

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ainsz4680d ago

I think the issue is partly do to gamings history, as it started out pretty much as a kids toy. Today the media just can't seem to get this juvenile image of gaming out of its head so it's easy to blame gaming on violent crimes and degrade it to the public even when gaming is as big as any other medium of entertainment.

thorstein4680d ago

Pong debuted in a bar in Sunnyvale CA circa 1972. Early games weren't ever "rated" for age. They were enjoyed by everyone even the ones with ridiculous violence like Friday the 13th for Atari 2600, you were Jason stalking the campers and killing them.

mastiffchild4680d ago

I don't actually think that many people actually DO think games cause violence. there's a moral minority with too much volume, that's all, nobody listens to them, they lose in court so sod 'em.

The Matrix4679d ago (Edited 4679d ago )

Ainsz is right. Whenever older people (read: news reporters and people who watch the news) hear the term video game, they automatically think of a children's toy. They didn't grow up with video games and are totally clueless as to what is going on with them. So when they see the graphic content of Mortal Kombat or the "sex" scenes from Mass Effect they think it is the kids who are playing them. While there are a lot of kids who manage to get their hands on these games, this is a bad method of thinking for two reasons. 1. For every kid playing a Mature-rated game there is a parent who either bought it for them or didn't care for their child enough to check up on what they were playing. 2: Just as many adults (and probably more) play video games as children. It is not some kiddy hobby that has no meaning to it. Video games in this day and age are works of art with stories that rival and SURPASS film, books and television. It is an adult hobby that demands to be treated as such. What media people should really be talking about it how terrible modern parents are to let their children play these games or not keep up with what their children are doing. Attack the parents, not the video games that are DESIGNED for an audience of 17 years and up.

thorstein4679d ago

I agree with the sentiment that it is up to the parent to raise the child. But remember, Generation X (the generation that grew up with gaming (albeit as a fringe hobby) started in 1968. There are plenty of "old timers" that are gamers.

But you have to look at it as a part of media as a whole. Before video games the culprit was Dungeons and Dragons; before that Rock n Roll. Before that it was James Joyce's Ulysses, before that other books, and before that scientists. (I am getting a bit long winded here.)

The point is, is that many generations have had what they love deemed "evil" or "inflamatory." Video games is just this generations "evil." Media doesn't have as big an influence as people wish to believe. In fact, there are strong correlations between gaming and keeping kids out of trouble.

Where would you rather have your kid, at home playing COD or out running the streets?

The Matrix4679d ago

None of the above, actually. :) I strongly believe children shouldn't play video games until around age 13+. I know many a person who grew up as a "gamer" and are overweight, have no athleticism or coordination whatsoever and all of the negative effects of being "nerdy." Anyways this conversation has gone in an odd direction.

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PrinceOfAnger3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Such a good looking game, best graphics this gen so far

" When the camera zooms in for a close-up, the level of detail is such that it left me guessing whether I was looking at real-time graphics or a pre-rendered cutscene. Thankfully, with Photo Mode being available at any time, you can easily confirm that they are, in fact, real-time.Of course, it's really the animation you experience while playing that impressed me the most. The expressions visible while engaged in combat or simply exploring really help bring the characters to life. "

As a story-focused game, characters and character rendering play a significant role in the presentation. However, while the pre-release media largely focused on Senua herself, Hellblade 2 features a surprisingly large number of other humans. It's without doubt one of the games defining visual features - the character rendering in Hellblade 2 sets new standards, delivering sequences that, at times, almost resemble actual filmed scenes with real actors. This is one of the first examples of a game that stands up against the promise of the UE5 demo The Matrix Awakens. The scenes feel very natural and realistic in a way that manages to somewhat sidestep the uncanny valley almost completely.

Einhander19721h ago

So, the other day I was talking about how DF lies, and their bias. I said cross-reference what they say with other videos and you'll see that what they say is dishonest.

You can see here, that frame-rate is section is hidden near the end of the video and it's one of the shortest sections and of course the segment they show is all 30 fps and they of course don't show any series s footage, but they specifically say it holds 30 FPS "flawlessly".

"It does reach this target flawlessly in my experience with virtually zero hiccups - it runs at 30fps and 30fps is exactly what you'll get from start to finish."

Now watch this video
https://youtu.be/UNwO6WZD0c...
https://youtu.be/UNwO6WZD0c...

Here it drops to 21 fps for example
https://youtu.be/UNwO6WZD0c...

I just used these videos because they were already posted on N4G and Analista De Bits it above questioning about legitimacy, but you can find other people who will also show that the game drops frames regularly, especially on series s.

Petebloodyonion1h ago

OMG! You caught them Lying hard because the game frame dips from time to time to 29 frames per second and at one point it drops for flash at 21 FPS.
Clearly, they are trying to hide something and the 99% of the time that the game holds 30 frames doesn't mean squats in a saying with VIRTUALLY Zero hiccups.

As you can see by the several comments in the video you posted people are venting their anger about how well the Serie S is holding up and how well the game is running across the board

But I guess MS probably paid the users to Shill for MS also since it's your narrative
By the way, let me inform you that 87% of Steam users who got this game are recommending it!
https://store.steampowered....
Must be shilled too right?

darthv7240m ago

You're trying too hard... John enjoyed the game and stated as much in his testing.

Einhander197228m ago(Edited 24m ago)

Petebloodyonion

OMG! You caught them Lying hard because the game frame dips from time to time to 29 frames per second and at one point it drops for flash at 21 FPS.

I did catch them lying, thanks for noticing.

The problem isn't me. The problem is that you're O.K. with it because they are lying in a way that supports your personal opinion.

darthv72

Get mad at me because I catch them being dishonest? I'm the bad guy, not the people who are actually lying. Man, the world we live in today is absolutely backwards, it's the bizarro timeline...

If I wanted to take the time I could show you that this isn't the exception, they constantly lie and mislead people in their videos.

OptimusDK3h ago

Incredible graphics..this is finally next gen graphics. It’s an experience more than a game. You can fault it or accept it and embrace what it gives you. It’s like Sony 1886.

PrinceOfAnger3h ago

(Summary)
- Takes advantage of everything UE5 offers
- Final game 'lives up to the lofty expectations' of the 2019 reveal
- Character rendering sets new standards and nearly resembles movie sequences with actual actors
- Leverages Unreal's Meta Human 5 to bypass the uncanny valley feel
- DF were left guessing whether some cut-scenes were in-game or real life footage (photo mode shows they're all real time)
- Character detail and how light / specular etc reflect on it praised
- A lot of the visual make up is tied to the post-process effects
- No option to disable things like CA, DoF etc but it's all suitable to the games presentation
- Soft filmic image quality and wider FoV praised

Resolution and Visuals:
- DRS 1296 to 1440p (w/ black bars 964 to 1070p). Series S will be covered in separate video
- 'Not sure if adding more pixels would make a difference to the filmic quality'

UE5 Features:
- Lumen is used extensively for direct and in-direct lighting, a lot of real time changes and shadows etc all update accordingly
- 'Phenomenal stuff'
- Lumen does a better job than traditional real time lighting system for indirectly lit areas like under ramps etc
- Lumen reflections used in combination with SSR for water bodies. Some water bodies can show SSR artifacts when moving camera
- 'Anyone looking at the game in motion will be impressed even if they do not understand the technical reasons'
- Unreal's fog is used effectively, fog lights up with light sources and runs at high quality
- Water effects and waves are praised. ' Absolutely stunning'

- Nanite is extensively used and eliminates visible pop-in even during scene transitions
- Minimal repetition or tiling, uses photo-grammatory
- Some assets like tree branches can show low resolution when zoomed in with photo mode, however

- Fine shadow detail is retained even when zooming extremely in thanks to Unreal's Virtual Shadow Maps
- Shadow quality is not always perfect and can show cracks in some instances but very consistent by and large
- Not the first UE5 game to use all these features, but by and far the best looking game to do so.

Performance:
- 30 FPS but the performance is locked and never dropped in John's testing on Series X
- DF tested the game on their Series X - similar - PC to see how much performance could be gained over 30
- 4K with DRS, they were able to stay locked at 30 FPS on High
- DRS 1440p with 60 FPS target sees game play at high 50s with more drops in cut-scenes
- DF thinks based on this test, SX can do 60 FPS with a more aggressive DRS target
- However, PC version can show massive frame time stutters that the Xbox version does not in the same areas
- DF summary: 60 FPS is theoretically possible, but for a stable 60 they might need to drop settings a lot

Audio
- Headphones are needed for Binaural audio effect that the game uses extensively
- DF thinks it is 'incredibly engaging'

Trailer Comparison:
- They compare the Giant fight trailer with the same area in the final game
- Final game has lesser lens distortion and difference in how the flame is lit
- The flames felt more 'fluid' in the demo versus the final game, otherwise no difference in the segment noted

- DF thinks Ninja Theory 'reached their goal'
- Praise the polish, presentation etc.

Obscure_Observer2h ago

Excellent work from Ninja Theory to get the Series X to finally flex it´s 12TF muscles to the max!

Thanks for the summary, @PrinceOfAnger.

Cheers!

PrinceOfAnger1h ago

After all 60fps is possible on series x with tweaking the graphics settings! :)

darthv723h ago

If they achieved this level of quality their first time using UE5... I can't wait to see what their next game is going to look like.

PhillyDonJawn1h ago

Remember the trailer release and ppl didn't think it was insane footage cause it looked too good