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Disliking is Not Hating

So, I've been a member of N4G for a little over two years, not hugely active, but browsing every day and commenting occasionally.
In that time it has become apparent that any negative comment, be it mild and genuine or harsh and abusive, results in the same conclusion.......Being labelled a hater.

I was under the impression that being able to comment on a story was to, how shall I put this........Oh yes, to comment. Yes, I will gladly agree that some out there take things too far, but can we all agree that it's not just the overly negative remarks that are a problem but also the overly positive? Polar opposites if you will. Or what some might consider The Fanboy and The Anti-Fanboy. We have extremes that are as annoying as each other and usually neither are aware they are one.

Where am I going with this you may ask, truth be told I'm kind of winging it so bare with me. The problem I find most distressing is that everybody in the middle with the tiniest sniff of a mildly, inoffensive and largely observational comment is now automatically labelled a hater. It gets worse, sometimes with capital letters.....The horror!

I don't think anybody of a sane mind could actually hate a game, look up the definition you may get this - to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest. Bit over the top don't you think?

So, to the meat of why I'm writing this......There are games, peripherals and hardware that I am not in any way interested in owning at this time, by which I mean my mind is open to change. You could call it a dislike if you want to label it but it's certainly not hate. There are game franchises I used to love and would not have a problem doing so again if unwelcome elements were not present. Despite all of this I will comment on a story I have an opinion on that I would like to share, even if it's negative. What would be welcome is if any replies were not automatically "You're a pathetic hater, if you don't like it what are you doing here?",or the now common "Hater's gonna hate". I'm sure we're all capable of sensing a genuine anti-fanboy, which I would recommend disagreeing with, troll voting and ignoring but if you're not sure how about engaging in a debate to further educate yourself and the commenter with a differing opinion, you never know, a common middle ground could be found and this website may well improve it's reputation. I am aware that this is near impossible for a fanboy or anti-fanboy, but try it, grow up a little bit, you might enjoy it. It's got to the point now that I've devolved into leaving sarcastic comments because I despair at the lack of intelligent conversation.

I'd like to end with this.......Everybody is entitled to an opinion, you don't have to agree with it, but you should always respect it. But by all means ignore the extremes.

Oh, and please don't assume that all I do is leave negative comments, quite the contrary, I just had to get this off my chest.

Damn it! I thought I was done.......I would like to add that popular franchises, I'm not singling any out, can and will be disliked, believe it or not for genuine reasons that a good number of people will dismiss, ignore or otherwise defend to the death. They are not disliking them to be cool, not the adults at least.......I hope. Now, if you found this post offensive, please go ahead and keep it to yourself......Only kidding, I'd like to hear some opinions, sensible ones of course.

INehalemEXI4357d ago

2 years ...all of a sudden you activate beast mode huh.

Emilio_Estevez4357d ago

Where's the dislike for blogs?

Just kidding of course, you hit the nail on the head.

MacDonagh4357d ago

I agree with this blog. I've only been here a short time and already have six people who ignore me which is fine I guess. If you have enemies; it means you stood up for something.

Megaton4357d ago (Edited 4357d ago )


*bubble down*

*reported for spam*

Welcome to N4G.

I've received angry PMs from all the major fanboy food groups. Nintendo fans because I don't believe the Wii U will be the greatest console and console launch ever. Xbox fans because I don't care for Halo, Kinect, or XBL Gold fees. Sony fans because I think the Vita is redundant in an age of mobile ubiquity.

It's best to laugh at and ignore the angry responses to your moderate opinions and dislike of dislike-able things. There's nothing you can do about it, and they're guaranteed to arrive sooner or later. Irrational keyboard warriors patrol these streets night and day.

SeekDev4357d ago (Edited 4357d ago )

But mobile can't equate to the power of a handheld gaming device. After all, mobile is for social use and on the side gaming, and handheld gaming devices are aimed at gamers where the social features are on the side.

*I wasn't the disagree, I agree somewhat with the rest of your comment*

Megaton4357d ago (Edited 4356d ago )

That's the only really big difference (that and better controls than mobile). Minimally better graphics for the time being. That won't last forever, though. New phones come out a lot more frequently than new handhelds, and we're already a long way from Tetris.

Thing is, though, how many people wanna spend several hundred dollars on a new gizmo just to pay a couple dozen more for a 5-hour portable Uncharted when they can just drop a couple bucks on Angry Birds and play that for hundreds of hours on the go?

They're competing for the same pocket space, but I think their offer is weak. Sony has always focused on "console experiences" for portable, but I think they've always overestimated the demand for such a thing. If I'm trying to kill time on the road, I just want a quick distraction, not something I'd wanna play on a big screen while sitting on my couch.

When I had a PSP, I played through GoW:CoO once and found myself just thinking about how much better it would have been on a console. The game I played the most on there was Patapon 2, and when that got stale after a couple months I just sold the thing.

Maybe I'm just not their target audience.

SeekDev4356d ago

I agree, you're not their target audience, and neither am I. When I'm out, I'm not looking to game, I game at home and that's all really. Others are different and like to hardcore game on the bus for 40mins, I need a longer sitdown personally.

awesomeperson4355d ago

I don't know how you're getting so many disagrees.

Sure mobiles can play games, and there are some very neat apps out for mobiles. When it comes down to it, most people will find that if they truly want deep, polished games, then a portable gaming system is the way to go. Not a mobile.

I admit mobiles are brilliant for when your on the go, or on a short trip, commuting etc. But other times on a bit of a longer journey, a portable system is much more enjoyable.

That been said, it does seem that handheld gaming devices will have increasing amounts of trouble versing their mobile counterparts. Mobile games are become better and better, and have a huge enjoyment factor, and sometimes, an ease of access that handhelds can't quite live up to.

SeekDev4355d ago

Ya win some ya lose some. That is the way of N4G. I do find it weird that so many think mobile is for hardcore gaming, but those are opinions and I'm alright with that. I simply have an opposite opinion.

The graphics difference between mobile and handheld (mainly Vita) isn't minimal btw. Far from minimal.

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Ben_Grimm4355d ago

I agree with you Megaton with your mobile take. Some people on N4G just can't seem to understand this. They can't understand why or the reasoning some folks prefer mobile over the Vita.

The Vita is a great device but it is not necessary to most when they have cheaper options or a device that games and does a lot more in their everyday use.

They keep saying that mobile phones cost just as much or more than the Vita. Which maybe true for some mobile phones but what they don't realize is this mobile phone will be used a whole lot more than a Vita. In fact it will ptobably be used 80% more than any dedicated gaming handheld.

I don't know anyone on N4G that thinks mobile gaming is for hardcores. Even though there are hardcore games for mobile.

ZoyosJD4357d ago

Any thoughts on the whole overreaction to disagrees. I just thought that there should be something on that as well.

SilentNegotiator4356d ago (Edited 4356d ago )

I agree. People really over-react to getting disagreed with.

SilentNegotiator4355d ago

zomg look at all these disagrees! I hate dis site!!!!


Fez4356d ago (Edited 4356d ago )

It's funny when people state an opinion and get disagreed with and then go off their head thinking people won't let them have an opinion lolz.

But phantom disagrees when evidence and reason are used are soooo annoying. I was on n4g's footie sister site 11x2 discussing an offside decision. I quoted from wikipedia (lol maybe not the best but it wasn't an academic comment :P), pointed out the time in the video where a helpful white line across the pitch was shown and who's body parts made them offside... and still I got some disagrees from blinded Man United fans. No explanation as to why I was wrong, just disagrees. I don't think that's an overreaction... it's the same as the loser ending a discussion in real life with "hmph, well, you're still wrong and I'm not going to change my opinion *walks off with nose held high*". Infuriating.

Some video game fans are a lot like football fans, you can lead them down a logical path but they won't accept the conclusion if they don't like it. Many are also extremely biased without even realising it.

coolbeans4356d ago (Edited 4356d ago )

It's amazing to see how often edits made by disagrees changing everything about their statement or just making it worse for them:

-Someone makes a well-made critical statement against one of the big 3, receives disagrees, then literally curses at others in an edit. A shame they fall victim to that.

-Another would be posters replying with an inane statements then (while sitting on their throne of judgment) quickly ostracize everyone disagreeing with him/her as being in "that group" in an edit.

In the end, I guess some still need to understand the agree/disagree isn't necessarily a right/wrong dichotomy. Others may see truth in that statement, but may simply disagree with how you're presenting it. Or they may respectfully disagree with your side of the argument yet still reach an understanding of where you're coming from.

ZoyosJD4356d ago

This is a perfect example situation. My original post has 1 agree and 5 disagees as I see it now.

Some people would at this point just go off in an edit or reply cursing everyone.

Or the "Whats with all the disagrees?...fanboys."

Yet, I realize there are three well thought out replies on the subject (particularly yours) and to boot each in practically agreeing directly.

Personally, I believe that their removal would stimulate more cognative responses that are more in line with the topic.