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US gamers:Where is the outrage?

As I peruse the news stories today on N4G I notice that there is very little discussion about what is occuring in Washington today. If you are unaware there is a meeting with industry insiders and our VP regarding resolution to stem mass school shooting and the like.

If you know anything about politician in general, its that they love to point out the evils of Video games and the liberal ones love to equate video games and firearm violence in the same breath. All tough I am a staunch 2nd Amedment supporter i wont bombard you with my feelings here since this is a gaming site but if what comes from these meetings is what I expect our 1st Amendment freedoms will also get trampled. If we don't give notice to this and accept the facts of our political nanny state it is only a matter of time before our game and gun laws mirror those of Australia. For all of you zombie killing, COD loving fanatics out there take notice. If our over-reactionary politicians get their way these games and many others will start getting banned for sale in this country and if that happens then they will stop being made at all.

I urge each and every visitor of voting age to this site to get on the phone this week and call your Congressman and Senator and let them know how you feel about overreaching legislation that will restrict or ban the content of video games. Time has shown that gamers as a whole reject senseless and purposeless violence in games and the overwhelming majority of us are not unstable nutters who believe we a Tommy Verseti or Mason from Black Ops. We can not continue to let our politicians herd and group us based on the actions of a few insane individuals. But in the word of the Chicago Godfather Mayor Rahm Emanuele "You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before" its clear that that is what is occurring this week in Washington. In one fail swoop unless we speak out we will see a major hit to both our 1st and 2nd Amendment rights.

dedicatedtogamers4539d ago

I can't speak for everyone, but I lived through the Colombine shootings when Doom was blamed. I lived through the NES era when Nintendo was attacked by the Senate as "an evil Japanese toy company corrupting our young children". I would imagine that most of the people here are old enough to remember the panic surrounding Rockstar's games (Manhunt, Grand Theft Auto, etc) and Mr. Jack Thompson.

Hahaha, now that I think about it, this "controversy" surrounding the school shooting is absolutely nothing compared to the drama that Jack Thompson drummed up before he was disbarred.

So I can't help but laugh at every new attempt at banning this or that videogame.

SilentNegotiator4539d ago

Uhhh, maybe you're just not seeing all of the articles, but I've seen plenty of outrage.

TheFirstClassic4538d ago

Yeah a lot of people are complaining about this.

Tetsujin4538d ago

On n4g "PS3 overtaking 360" is far more important than the senate and gaming companies talking - which is very important. On another gaming website they have at least 2 articles on the main page about the latest talks and what's been discussed, no final words yet however. On here if it's not console bashing or "my console sold more than yours" then it's not front page worthy, or worth even reading.

I remember during the Columbine shooting they swore Doom was "the" reason and banned it on AOL; and the NRA is swearing "video games" is the reason for the recent shooting. I've played games since I was at least 3, and I played my share of violent games; I remember when Mortal Kombat first came out and there was big talk about how "violent" it was back then, and the ESRB had to be formed. The few intentions I had on harming someone what I would do is boot up a game instead, play for a few hours, and I was calm down enough to settle differences or at least seek an alternative solution that didn't result in violence.

Instead of blaming games how about blaming irresponsible parenting, the media for over-fabricating negative news, and stop finding scapegoats for people who have little to no responsibility for their actions.

jadenkorri4537d ago

I lost respect for the NRA. I much do respect the right to bare arms, and I'm not even American. Guns are a tool used to defend yourself. Guns aren't to be blamed for the shooting nor is video games. Any gun laws take the gun/tool out of innocent peoples hands and puts them in the criminal hands. Their criminals, of course they will get a gun, leaving innocent people no way to defend themselves.

rainslacker4537d ago

I don't think the sales topics are more important in the way you imply. Truthfully a lot of people on here have been gaming for a while. This whole thing is a non-issue for us. It comes and goes in the same way every time. Lots of hype, lots of melodrama on the part of politicians and activist groups, but nothing ever comes from it except the same conclusion that it always has.

Jack Thompson, as mentioned above, probably got the furthest along with his campaign, but that was all because of lies and misdirection.

Anyhow, for some reason I guess sales articles never get old in the same way.

thorstein4538d ago (Edited 4538d ago )

Before Video Games were on the Hitlist, it was Dungeons and Dragons. Before that, it was rock music, before that blues, before that Jazz (or maybe jazz came first) before that Ulysses by James Joyce... popular media, in whatever form, is most likely to get blamed. This is nothing new.

Software_Lover4538d ago

........... You lost me once you started that "liberal" mess. People get to me when they start using those words. Liberal, Conservative. If you haven't noticed, over the past few years, it has been FOX that has tried to start a video game backlash. Now, onto your topic......

People have become comfortable with their lives. No one wants to do anything when it comes to action, to anything. Any type of protest against the machine and you are labeled as a trouble maker or a nuisance, as was the case with the occupy wall streeters. Every citizen in this country should have been protesting on Wall Street. Whether you are a Republican, Democrat, Independent, or whatever. Fox news, every broadcast called them Lazy Bums.

We have lost all of our politicians that were not scared to die to make a change. Lincoln, The Kennedy's, MLK. These guys knew that the things they were doing would/could get them killed. Mainly because they were going against the rules of the "institution". Most of the politicians are just puppets, including Bush JR, OBAMA, and Romney had he been elected.

The American populace whether Right wing, or left wing, doesn't care about an issue, as long as they can go about their life as usual. Gun Control? Dont care as long as it doesn't affect their weekend fishing trip. Video Game Bans? Dont care as long as they can have the next IPAD that comes out, and to add most citizens blindly party vote anyway so that adds to it.

I WILL STOP NOW BECAUSE I AM ON A BLIND RANT, LOL.

Megaton4537d ago

Yeah, it's very obvious that he's coming from the standpoint of "I'm terrified of the world, and I've been told liberals are to blame". Ironic, considering it's mostly the people who hold his same beliefs that are now blaming video games for all of America's problems.

The most damaging legislature from our government tends to have sweeping bipartisan support. It's not a left or right thing. When it really counts, they both fail the country together.

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jznrpg17h ago

If the full game isn’t on disc it’s not any different than a downloaded code.

Vits8h ago

Yep, and that’s been the case for Xbox for at least a decade now.
No doubt they alienated their physical media fans, but that happened way back with the Xbox One. What they’re alienating now are just the box collectors.

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darthv7216h ago

Speaking for myself... I pretty much stopped buying physical. Unless its some cool collector edition. I find it easier to just buy from the respective eshop.... if its not on a rental service that is.

ZeekQuattro15h ago

Going into the 7th gen I was staunchly against the idea of digital game. Even the few PC games I played were physical. It wasn't until digital only games starting catching my eye that I changed my mind. Now I buy mostly digital these days out of convenience but also because I have too many phyical games. SNES, GG, GB, GBA, N64, Dreamcast, DS, 3DS, GCN, Wii, Wii U, PS1-5 and Switch. That's hoarders level of gaming right there. 🤣

Anyway digital sales in several parts of the world, including here in the US have been on the rise. Factor in the Series S being the go two model for Xbox owners it just makes sense for Microsoft to scale back in regards to physical media. That and Xbox published games stay high on PSN. 😆

TheColbertinator13h ago

Unfortunate really since I am an avid collector of physical on Nintendo consoles and I bought Black Ops 6 on disc.

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MaximusPrime_6h ago

On the other hand, FF XVI sold more than usual on PS5

Obscure_Observer3h ago

Day One Release vs One year later release with zero marketing to build excitement/hype.

Both Xbox and SE should know better.

MajorLazer3h ago

Also fewer than half the consoles sold compared to the PS5 so much smaller customer base.

lodossrage2h ago

I get that the game was older.

But so were Sea of Thieves and Forza Horizon when they came to playstation and those made it into the top download lists for awhile. So the coming a year later excuse doesn't really fly anymore.

Scissorman2h ago

look at stellar blade on PC. over a year later and it's already sold over a million copies. this has nothing to do with marketing or hype. the xbox audience, broadly speaking, just doesn't purchase games.

ravens521h ago

Excuses lol. Everyone already knew this would be the case. 90% of Xbox players don't buy games.

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CrashMania6h ago

If it ain't on gamepass, they ain't interested.

Great job MS for training most of your player base to not want to actually buy games, maybe SE will realise releasing FF on xbox isn't somehow going to help them match their exaggerated sales targets. Hopefully remake fairs better, probably will on Switch 2 at least.

Lightning7757m ago

You realize it got most of its sales on PS5 right? Not even the PC version did all that well. One platform will take most of the sales as it had moat of the hype.

Vits4h ago

No game, especially a AAA one, deserves strong sales after taking years to arrive on a platform and still asking the same price as everywhere else. You can’t just ignore a platform for that long and then expect people to be excited by the release. That cycle came and went already, there is no hype for it anymore.

Either you're all in from the start or you're not. This lazy, bare-minimum approach of tossing out a late port and calling it a day shouldn't be rewarded. If you're not willing to respect the platform, don't bother showing up at all.

crazyCoconuts3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

But the formerly exclusive Xbox games like Forza Horizon enjoyed great sales on PS even after years past their initial release.
Your references to deserving and "shouldn't be rewarded" implies that gamers are buying games based on some moral platitude that simply doesn't exist in practice.
Gamers buy games because they want to play them.

Vits3h ago

Nah, it implies how it should be. If gamers weren't the dumbass consumer class around, being played like freaking dumbass because they can't get over the hype for a freaking second and think if that purchase even make sense.

Chevalier3h ago

This is EXACTLY why they wouldn't and shouldn't bother im the first place. I can't remember which FF game launched on Xbox with the Switch and Playstation version and ONLY did 4% sales on Xbox. So lets not pretend these sales would have been better because if you believe that you are absolutely delusional

Vits3h ago

"Either you're all in from the start or you're not. This lazy, bare-minimum approach of tossing out a late port and calling it a day shouldn't be rewarded. If you're not willing to respect the platform, don't bother showing up at all."

Chevalier3h ago

Weird. How come you don't say the same about Xbox studio games that show up some YEARS/DECADES later as well?

Sea of Thieves
Grounded
Forza Horizon 5
Pentiment
Hi Fi Rush
Gears of War

Mostly at full price and selling well. Oh right doesn't fit your BS narrative

andy852h ago(Edited 2h ago)

In fairness they didnt. This was 16, 15 released on Xbox day one.

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Relientk774h ago

Continual proof Xbox gamers don't buy JRPGs. Shocker

Chevalier4h ago

Wait but I was told by Xbox fans that they support FF and these franchises? Weird. Shocked

PapaBop3h ago

Honestly, if you're a JRPG fan, you're going to own a PS5, Switch or PC. Only benefit of owning an Xbox for JRPGs is all the money you save by not having any games to spend it on.

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