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Redfall's 'Bite Back Upgrade' Looks A Hard Sell Even For Xbox Game Pass Members

The upgrade pack is available for $30 / £30, with an additional 10% off for Xbox Game Pass members.

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sammarshall102445d ago

I can't see the interest being high for long, if at all. I give it 2-3 months at best before the player base leaves

thesoftware730445d ago

What kind of crystal ball do you have?

So you are saying the entire player base? 10%, 50%, 100%.

What a doozy of a comment, based on you not liking the way the game ' looks'. That gave you the right to predict that a studio with a pedigree of making good games with legs will have no player base after 2 months, ok pal, try to put some actual context in your baseless comments as they come off empty very often.

crazyCoconuts445d ago

That screenshot the article used certainly doesn't do it justice. The gameplay videos looked better, but it's not a good looking game by modern standards

JEECE445d ago

Yeah admittedly if I didn't love Arkane I'd probably be skipping this based on what I've seen. But Dishonored was great, and Deathloop was wildly underappreciated (by gamers, critics actually liked it), so I'm willing to give this a shot, particularly since it's on GP. But if it turns out to be one of those "yes we said you could play it single player but it isn't balanced or fun when you do that" situations, I'm going to lose interest fast because I doubt any of my friends have heard of this game.

CBaoth445d ago

sorry but we differ on Deathloop. Worst money I spent this gen so far on a game. Straight garbage compared to Dishonored and what's worse moving forward they wanna do more games like that instead of Dishonored. Funny how the cringey dialogue in that was overlooked but it's absolutely a travesty in Forspoken. Felt like it was written by a frat boy intern hired by Bethesda straight from a Full Sails commencement ceremony.

JEECE445d ago

@CBaoth

I don't really understand the "love Dishonored but hate Deathloop" thing, unless it is very specifically tied to Deathloop's rouguelite type elements. The games are pretty similar in terms of gameplay (powers, traversal, etc), world building, AI, art style, and writing, so I can how people hate both or like both, but only liking one is confusing. I mean if you ask me which is better overall, it's Dishonored, but it's not a night and day comparison by any stretch.

Lol also I'm not sure where you were when Deathloop came out but plenty of people criticized the writing.

thesoftware730445d ago

I strongly disagree, I think it looks great and like a lot of fun.

Opinions, am I right?

4Sh0w445d ago

Well I wouldn't say trash but based on what I've seen so far it looks medicore at best. Nothing really unique about it imo. I dont know but to me a new IP really should nail at least 1 thing/aspect that makes you go wow, if not its just another shooter.

FlavorLav01445d ago

Looks better than Starfield in my opinion. Not super stoked for either game really but this will likely be Xbox’s best console exclusive experience this year besides another good old trusty Forza…

wiz7191445d ago

Lol your only saying that because you don’t get to try it out for yourself , gaming sucks when you tie your nuts to just one platform .. glad I own all three

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anast446d ago (Edited 446d ago )

That Bethesda acquisition is going to pay off with games like this. It has got to be embarrassing for them.

crazyCoconuts445d ago

It's not even out yet though. How do we know it won't be good?
I mean, let's keep an open mind and give it a chance before crapping on them? This studio has produced some good games prior to the acquisition...

anast445d ago

I won't be worth it in the future. They bought Bethesda on their decline.

crazyCoconuts445d ago

I agree about the decline comment. Odds are against. But I'm hopeful they'll pull a good game out. I really liked Deathloop...

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neutralgamer1992445d ago

I signed up for GP so I am only interested in the main game. But definitely this is a reach for even $10 forget $30

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH445d ago

I’m looking forward to Redfall more than any game announced this year so far. It’s my type of game and I love all the previous games the devs have made so I know I’ll love this one.

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Most Disappointing Game of 2023

VGChartz's Craig S: "Who doesn't love a good dose of schadenfreude every now and then? There was no shortage of that on offer in terms of video games last year, hidden in plain sight amongst the more genuine disappointments (I'll leave it for you to decide which category each of the following games falls into).

One unfortunate trend when it comes to the biggest disappointments of the last year was that so many were new IPs, including Bethesda's latest major release Starfield, the Arkane Studio B-team's abortive attempt at a co-op vampire shooter, and Square Enix's action RPG Forspoken. Mega-franchise Call of Duty and the perennially delayed The Lord of the Rings: Gollum round out the list of Nominees."

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Profchaos91d ago

I think disappointing and bad are not the same thing.

The article calls out lotr Gollum that was not disappointing it was bad

Redfall is both disappointing and bad.

starfield, MW3 sure disappointing.

But if I was to add some disappointments of the year I'd add

firewall ultra absolutely a dumpster fire that killed the studio.

007 goldeneye the port of the N64 game it's disappointing as we didn't get the rare remaster version and the switch version has very poor controls.

Rdr was not the remake we wanted a simple port that didn't even run at 60 fps on launch on ps5

Jedi survivor Just broken on day 1

coolbeans90d ago

-"The article calls out lotr Gollum that was not disappointing it was bad"

I personally fall on the 'Gollum disappointing' spectrum. Here's why: even though Daedalic Entertainment was hopping out of their point-n-click lane, they *were* a solid group of devs that had an unexpected concept. Those two things, cheering on a dev taking a risk with a brand and the odd-yet-intriguing template, at least made me hope for something decent; instead, it's the reason they're only publishing now.

CBaoth90d ago

But the concept never stood a chance, even in the heyday of the Metal Gear/Splinter Cell days. When this was announced, no one was intrigued by its premise. Fell flat on its face. Even if Gollum had come out to glowing reviews the game would've struggled to perform financially. That's why it's not disappointing, just bad. Had no hype. All the other games Prof listed had the potential to sell great or be reviewed better but failed. Low effort remasters like the GTA collection, the RDR port, and MGS Collection could all sell well but still be severely disappointing. Gollum was uninteresting at concept, terrible in its execution. The result was expected sadly.

-Foxtrot90d ago

Goldeneye is so weird

We got no proper remaster for it despite the fact it was being worked on and it was almost done apparently then the Xbox version didn't come with online play but the Nintendo Switch one did...the Switch...the system where online play is a f***** ballache.

https://youtu.be/6B8ssbyAeR...

RhinoGamer8891d ago

I recently came back to Redfall, my lord...the controls and movement were a disgrace! I felt like my character was drunk. Zero fine movement control. The XBOX producers on this game should be fired.

OtterX91d ago

I think Diablo IV deserves to be on this list. While not the worst made game, it was one of the most disappointing. Many of us had such high expectations for it and it turned out to be so incredibly dull, a slog to play.

Sonic188191d ago

It's basically Diablo Immoral 2.0 with lots of microtransactions

DarkZane91d ago

Diablo 3 was as much as a dumpster fire at launch, but a year later, it became a very good game and was well worth playing. Give Diablo 4 the same time. In a year, it's going to be awesome I bet.

coolbeans90d ago

I was under the impression their most-recent update fits that bill.

OtterX90d ago

K I'll try reinstalling in a year or 2.

I didn't play D3 until after the first year, so I will certainly give it another shot.. especially to try and get my money's worth out of it. But at launch, I was bored out of my mind and uninstalled it.

Sonic188190d ago

That's the biggest issue. Unfinished games with lots of flaws and issues during launch. Unfortunately, most gamers don't forget or forgive that and would rather spend their money on another game

jznrpg91d ago (Edited 91d ago )

Jedi Survivor was disappointing for me because I waited until a month ago to play it and it still has major issues. My saves were getting corrupted so I had to restart an old save however many times and a plethora of other bugs.

Of course there is Redfall Starfield but to me it’s MS overhype underdeliver so I expected it to some extent but not as bad as it was.

Gollum had little to no expectations.

Forspoken was a disappointment but not as bad as it was made out to be especially if you turned on Japanese voice acting. It was a 7 type of game but it looked like it could have been better.

Diablo 4 was scored well at launch but all my friends that loved and played 3 (after years of swasons) up until 4 were disappointed with 4 and don’t play it anymore .

Factions getting canceled was a bit of a disappointment. Not huge as I don’t play gaas much but it was disappointing.

Nintendo not releasing Switch 2 again was disappointing to me. I don’t use my Switch much it’s just so outdated and mosty kiddy games release some more games that I want to play not my kids!

No physical copy for Alan Wake 3 disappointing as hell, actually beyond that it is upsetting (to some extent,I will live of course)

Gamers getting used to owning nothing and renting games is very disappointing. I don’t watch Netflix anymore it’s mosty mediocre crap and rental services will go that direction if allowed.

CBaoth90d ago

this whole gen has been a major disappointment to me. Least amount of gaming I've done since bar/clubbing days. Watching fanboys argue now is akin to a couple of kids fighting over the front seat of a short bus. They can't even argue over games anymore.....cuz there aren't any! With two of the console manufacturers "switching' over to x86 architecture we shouldn't be having these draughts but here we are. And the third happily chugs along selling games on decade old microchips with an OLED screen.

Profchaos90d ago (Edited 90d ago )

X86 is a shared architecture but both run different development pipelines so they still have to Dev for those consoles plus PC and Arm if a switch port is included.

None of this will reduce Dev times games are complex now probably more than they need to be honestly but if every studio takes 3 to 5 or even 10 years to bring out their big titles there's going to be many dry spells

On that note arm processing is far more efficient than x86 I think Nintendo is making the right call sticking with that and we will probably see Sony and Microsoft do the same next gen as more effort is being made to bring arm into desktop space lately

Profchaos90d ago

Being disappointed that Nintendo isn't releasing ultra violent games is like being disappointed that the the next GTA game is open world. Plus totk and Metroid prime remaster did come out this year that's about as violent as they will even get

Im pretty certain that one experiment in publishing devils third is one they would like to forget.

Plus all rumours for the switch 2 places it's release in 2024 they make killer numbers at Christmas if they announce they are making a switch 2 those sales dwindle and shareholders get upset. If a switch 2 doesn't release this year that's disappointing. And if third party's don't develop for it even more so there's zero garuntee they will

I agree gamers getting used to owning nothing is a huge disappointment I don't think many will go silently into that one though

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Xbox Game Pass App for Quest VR is totally pointless but has so much potential

CG writes: In this video, we take a closer look at the recently released Xbox Game Pass App for Quest VR headsets and determine that due to being able to do more with the Quest Browser, it’s pretty pointless as it is. Yet, there’s so much room for potential with the social aspects of the devices. We also compare to how it holds-up against paid for apps like Virtual Desktop.

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I'm So Glad I Gave Redfall A Second Chance

I went back to Redfall long after it was written off by the gaming community, and I'm so happy I did. Is Redfall good now? Find out here.

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darthv72138d ago

When i first tried it... it gave me a headache with its frame rate and pacing. The update did a good job of mitigating those issue and its been rather fun at times. Still seems like there is more work to be done but otherwise this is at least how it should have been from the beginning. if it was... things would have turned out differently.

maniacmayhem138d ago

I've heard the update did this game a bit of justice. Unfortunately, I think for a game like this the damage is done and there's no turning it around.

It's different for survival type, MMO lite games that may be light on content at release like Sea of Thieves or NMS, but for a co-op multiplayer shooter, low framerate, bad AI, etc, not a lot of people are willing to come back with so many other better options on the market.

thesoftware730138d ago (Edited 138d ago )

I went back to it as well, and having good fun with my friend that actually bought it for $8.

I'm in the same boat as Darth, at launch it gave me a headache, I'm not even sure if it was 30fps, and the enemies were to spaced out with bad AI. Since then they added more enemies, fixed some of their AI(getting stuck behind cars and such) up'ed the FPS, now I'm having fun.

They still need to add more weapon variety, and better rewards for completing nest and such. I keep getting low level items that are to easily dismissed . They also need to fix some of the interface, like the map market on the map screen sucks. With some fixes they can make it a solid 7 or 8 out of 10 game.

Inverno138d ago

There's nothing to find out. The game hasn't gotten any actual update that makes it worth buying. Just some general fixes, but it's still an incomplete game, they sold you an incomplete game, knowingly, and hyped it up, and lied about it. Stop letting these things slide.

Ironmike138d ago

The gu s when fired sound very weak

Sephiroushin137d ago

omg people still talking about this pos

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