Apple Rejects Move to Restore Fortnite iOS on App Store

Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney estimates that it could take as long as 5 years for the Fortnite iOS version to return to the Apple App Store.

[Magog]

Fortnite will just be an embarrassing memory by then.

[Andrew336]

On what earth will fornite ever be an embarrassing memory? It prints money for them.

[Magog]

I meant for anyone who played it.

[EvertonFC]

I don't think the people who have made lots of money will say "embarrassing'
What have you achieved?

[VerminSC]

I know it’s the popular thing to hate on fornite, but it’s not a bad game.

It’s fun, with tons of updates to keep it fresh. It has one of the most affordable battle passes and skins of any major free to play game. It’s a way for younger people to meet up and go to “virtual concerts” which was nice during this pandemic.

It’s definitely not for everyone but let people enjoy what they want to enjoy without putting them down.

[Magog]

Most affordable battle passes? That's like winning a prize for the shiniest turd.

[VerminSC]

Magog… the game is free to play. How TF you expect them to make profits on a free to play game?

[ActualWhiteMan]

Magog really is a 🤡

[porkChop]

It's one of the most played and most successful games of all time. There's nothing embarrassing about that.

[darthv72]

...and on that note, I wonder what happened with PUBG? It too was pretty popular for a while and then... crickets.

[porkChop]

First of all, PUBG was never as popular as Fortnite. Not even close. But PUBG died because the devs refused to fix the game or add content until it was too late. They just wanted to cruise and print money. Fortnite hasn't had that problem. Epic have constantly added in new content, and the game is very well optimized.

[darthv72]

^^I agree, continued support is what makes or breaks a game. To be fair though, Fortnite wouldnt be where it is without PUBG. That whole battle royale stuff wasnt what fortnite was initially about. PUBG came along and changed the game and caused many other tiles to adapt to the same BR flavor. Im just surprised it didnt last longer and try to claw back some of what it created.

[Sonyslave3]

Damn Tim about to lose out on billions of $$$.

[VersusDMC]

Possibly more...apple can actually remove any epic account. Meaning any game that uses Unreal. They had a court injunction against doing that but the court took it aways as Epic clearly breached contract.

The backlash for doing that would be insane...but apple still has that nuclear option.

Back when this started devs started to look for other engines(origin got a spike in business)and they should keep doing that.

[VerminSC]

He should’ve just shut his mouth. It wasn’t financially responsible to go to war with Apple. They’re both just greedy billionaires fussing because they can’t make even more money.
Dude is worth 7 BILLION. More money than most can spend in 1000 lifetimes, and he is trying to call Apple greedy?! You’re both fucking greedy, at least Apple is self aware.

[TheDoomedGuy]

The thing about owning a business is .....well it's a business so making money is kinda the whole idea.
No difference to me between a business person who makes billion and one who simply makes thousands.

Both are out for money as that is the whole point of a business.

[VerminSC]

TheDoomedGuy

Exactly. Be smart about profits and accept how lucky you’ve been. Instead he let greed consume him and now he’s losing out on billions of dollars.

[ApocalypseShadow]

That's a shame Tim./$

You could always build a phone in that time that runs on Unreal Engine. And put your game on it as a pack in.

Didn't your....er... PARTNER, want to make a gaming phone? Just pair up with them. They seem to want to take a huge piece of the mobile gaming pie. Where the profits might go from such a phone with Fortnite built in is anyone's guess.(wink)

It's Apple's services you're wanting to be on but you want all the profits without paying. How is that right? I mean, right now, part of your profits goes to that PARTNER, that uses it for questionable behaviors. You want to give them more to play with?

[lodossrage]

yeah I mentioned that way back when this whole issue first started.

If Epic feels Apple and Google are so unfair, why not make their own phone? Hell, you know Tencent will have no issue funding that.

And I'm sorry, you can't cry about something being unfair when you signed the contract knowing the rules.

Epic would have had a much better leg to stand on if they didn't ALREADY agree to Apple and/or Google's rules by signing the contract.

[Christopher]

With China cutting down on gaming, Tencent isn't going to focus on games on a phone.

[Sephiroushin]

They have a mess of a store, I just cant imagine the OS on that phone if they ever make one geeez!

[lodossrage]

Did any of you read this part of Sweeney's email he sent?:

""Epic has asked Apple to reactive our Fortnite development account," Sweeney's e-mail read. "Epic promises that it will adhere to Apple's guidelines whenever and wherever we release products on Apple platforms."

"Whether Epic chooses to bring Fortnite back to iOS consumers depends on whether and where Apple updates its guidelines to provide for a level playing field between Apple In-App Purchase and other methods of payment," the e-mail continued."

It's like Epic just wants to continuously poke the bear.

That part of the email is basically saying " We promise to play by the rules, just so long as you make the rules more acceptable to us".

I hate Apple, but if I were them, I'd tell Sweeney and Epic to F*** off

[PapaBop]

That's pretty much what Apple did lol while Sweeney has his head so far up his own a$$ that he'll keep fighting his holier than thou crusade for the "little guy"

[VerminSC]

It’s hilarious because he acts like he is better than Apple. They are just 2 multi billion dollar companies both wanting more money.

[-Foxtrot]

All this, for an IOS version

[SavageFlamingo]

I’ll never understand how people can stand playing games like this on a phone.

[roadkillers]

Who gives a $hit, both these companies are scummy af

[Rachel_Alucard]

Tim Cook said it best

"Epic came along and wanted basically to be handled in a special way. Our rules are that we treat everyone the same. They ask us repeatedly to treat them different, we said no, and they sued us on 10 different items."

The only statement Tim can bring up to justify special treatment is an exception that Apple makes on qualifying premium video streaming services, which was only implemented in April 2020. He had no leg to stand on whatsoever.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

Epic got greedy only to lose 100s of millions [if not billions] in long term iOS revenue.

[unjust75]

Good. I can’t wait till the day free to play games like this go away. They ruin everything and force companies to produce garbage.

[-Hermit-]

This whole thing has backfired on Epic. I have heard people say that nobody is a winner in this, and although that may be true, there certainly are losers, and Epic are the massive losers here. The amount of money they have missed out on and the future money they will miss out on will be huge.

[DazaMc]

Serves them right. Don't bite the hand that feed you.

[ZwVw]

Lol at Epic throwing stones at Apple. Only to hope to break bread with them afterwards.

[FlameWater]

I've never owned an apple product, never will. BUT Apple created a platform that hosts 588 million users, this is digital access to paying customers. Why shouldn't they ask for a cut to have access to this market? Why does Tim Sweeny think he should have access to this market for free while profiting at the same time?

[TheEnigma313]

the war of petty billionaire companies.

[FPS_D3TH]

Lmao get rekt epic. What a desperate email to try and paint Apple yet again as some sort of bad guy in the situation Epic caused for themselves. Now they’re desperate to make that bank again and look like the good guy by asking for access to dev tools and saying “oh btw were ready to come back, but only if you let us on our terms!”

Lmao why’d you even bother Tim Sweeney. Bunch of clowns running multi billion dollar corporations desperate for more money.

[masterfox]

Oh no!, what are we going to do?, somebody think of the children ! :D

[RockHudson]

Who cares, both of these companies are evil bastards

[spss11]

Awww poor greedy Epic. So sad.