Sticky Trigger Entertainment bring you a list of the best characters from Microsofts arsenal that they think should be included if Microsoft choose to go ahead and make a 'Smash Bros Clone' as well as look at possible types of game it could be.
C'mon dude. This really is a really DUMB and clueless objection that has nothing much to do with either the characters OR the genre(whether a brawler or a fighter) and is easily dealt with anyway.
First of all, Smash Bro.s is not really a "fighting" game, it's a "brawler". And it already actually has ranged weapons, and guess what? So do many actual fighting games. But whatever.
Not that guns are any actual kind of barrier to anything. To put it bluntly, crossover brawlers are generally SUPPOSED to be absurd and outrageously stupid and cartoonish. That's part of the fun.
But forgetting even that, and accepting the supposed premise about melee, if we look at precedent it still doesn't work.
Are Pikachu and Samus known for melee? Not really. Does it stop them beign played in Smash Brothers?
Kratos is whirling chains all over the screen with swords on the end of them, and using a bow. Is that really melee? Seems pretty projectile oriented to me.
What about Scorpion and other ranged fighting game characters like Stryker in Mortal Kombat? What about all the fireballs and high and low shock-wave attacks and crap like that that are obviously used as projectiles?
Where was this supposed "melee only" objection with strreet Fighter IV or Marvel Vs. Capcom 3?
Even if being melee oriented WERE the big rule (and it's not) it's not a problem. A Master Chief character could still use an energy sword or gravity hammer or just melee with the butt of a weapon, just as Marcus Fenix could easily use his chainsaw bayonette.
Why are you going to such a silly length to argue against a hypothetical "me too" product that shows no signs of actually existing, when Sony is already making something similar and that has probably just as poor as a justification for its own excesses? The upcoming PS All Stars game has freaking Radek in it from Killzone! With a gun!
But that's totally fine right?
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@BXBomber " also sony's characters stand out waaaayyy more than any ms character."
Actually I don't think anybody cares about 90% of Sony's "characters" including most Sony fans.
All Stars Battle Royale game is already looking like a sad cash-in or vanity project farce and a joke. Penny-Arcade and Destructoid are both laughing at the stupidity of it.
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@ Jazz4108 "If ms did that then Sony would have to allow the character mandatory install and psn outage and maybe a giant enemy crab and firmware update."
I'm going to ignore the 'platform inconveniences as characters bit'.
But 'Giant Enemy Crab' TOTALLY needs to be on the All Stars Battle Royale roster.
That's exactly the kind of silly humor you WANT in a X-over Brawler game. And when he wins a round he needs to shout 'Yay! No one flipped me over and hit my weak spot for massive damage' or 'I'm historically authentic, these are real places, and these battle ACTUALLY happened!'.
if microsoft followed suit then the roster would be smaller than what would be expected for a smash bros or all stars type of game. unless they use a ton of third party.
Gun/range: 1. Master Chief (halo) 2. Marcus Fenix (Gears) 3. Joanna Dark (perfect Dark) 4. Alan Wake (Alan Wake) 5. Reaver (Fable 2) 6. Jason Fleming (Shadow Complex) 7. Alicia Claus (Bullet Witch) 8. Anna (Onechanbara) 9. Stranger (Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath) 10. Flint/Brutus/Tex/Hawk (Brute Force) 11. Duane (KuF:CoD) 12. Celestine Roaa (Magna Carta 2)
Sword/weapons: 1. Kaim (lost Odyssey) 2. Regnier/celine/curian/Leinhart /kendal(KUF) 3. Jack of Blades (Fable 1) 4. Raikoh Minamoto (Otogi) 5. Ken Ogawa (Ninja Blade) 6. Death's Hand (jade Empire) 7. Juhani (KOTOR) 8. Yuri/Flynn Scifo (Tales of Vesperia) 9. Capel/Touma/Sigmund (Infinite Undiscovery) 10. Inphyy/Aspharr/Galen (Ninety-Nine Nights 1/2) 11. Aya/Saki (Onechanbara) 12. Rue (Magna Carta 2)
Psycho/Crazy/Destructive Power: 1. Agent (CrackDown) 2. Edgar/Protagoist/Freia (Phantom Dust) - all of them can be anything in any category 3. Gideon Wyeth (Advent Rising) 4. EDF team (Earth Defense Force)
Hand to Hand Combat: 1. Furious Ming/Silk Fox (Jade Empire) 2. Any Killer Instinct characters (Killer Instinct) 3. Enorym Tenspur (Advent Rising) 4. Crocell Reeden (Magna Carta 2)
Magic/quirky/Weird/Cartoon characters: 1. Kameo, Kalus (Kameo element of power) 2. Banjo & Kazooie (Banjo & Kazooie) 3. Theresa (Fable 1/2/3) 4. Conker (Conker Bad Fur Day) 5. Splosion Man (splosion man) 6. Blinx (Blinx) 7. The Gunstringer (The Gunstringer) 8. Horstachio (Viva Pinata) 9. Shao Ting (kung Fu Chaos) 10. Seimei (Otogi 2) 11. Henpecked Hou (jade empire) 12. Bastion (Bastion) 14. Estellise (Tales of Vesperia) 15. Jansen Friedh (Lost Odyssey) 16. Shu/Jiro/zola/Marumaro/Kluke (Blue Dragon) 17. Gustav (Infinite Undiscovery) 18. Tyurru (Ninety-nine Nights) 19. Eddie Stubbs (Stubbs the Zombie) 20. Cooper Chance (Grabbed by the Ghoolies) 21. Orta/mobo (Panzer Dragoon Orta) 22. Toe Jam & Earl (ToeJam & Earl 3) 23. Vince (Voodoo Vince)
Would deffinitely be a bad idea! Xbox brand is still way too young. needs at least another generation of new IP's to get a good roster. But it may be too late to do that since nobody makes different genres on Xbox anymore. RPG's and Shooters are all i really see that come out that are only on the xbox. Excluding those small XBLA games.
Well MS did have Kung Fu Chaos on the original XBOX but that was more like Power Stones, I would like to see a return of that game as it was a lot of fun.
I had Kung Fu Chaos in my list yesterday about a similar topic heres the list with added characters. Master Chief Marcus Fenix Skorge Arbiter Tartaurus Chieftain of the Brutes The Tank from L4D Alan Wake Fable Banjo Kazooie Conker Blinx the Time Sweeper Kameo Voodoo Vince Cooper Chance Joanna Dark Mech Assault Chromehounds Killer Instinct Splosion Man Zak from Fuzion Frenzy Nathan Zachary from Crimson Skies Orta from Panzer Dragoon Orta Ryo from Shenmue Raikoh Minamoto from Otagi Phantom Dust Blue Dragon Viva Pinata Kung Fu Chaos Jet Set Radio Future Jade Empire Your Avatar 3rd party Characters
MS also had Small Arms this gen. I still don't see why people bring up the same "what if" question again and again without realizing that SB clones are already available, and that it is not the roster that matters most but rather the quality of the game itself.
Its not about the genre, its primarily about the roster. Yes, there are games with this style. But what game has a varying cast of Microsoft characters like Nintendo does with Smash Bros and now Sony does with All-Stars Battle Royale?
It is about the genre. Capcom's Power Stone rivals Smash Bros and is probably the best game in the genre alongside it, and it has a completely unknown roster of characters.
So while MS might be able to come up with a big roster of familiar characters, it is quite worthless without proper gameplay to back it up. And on the other hand a game with anonymous cast of characters which is good enough on its own merits (again: Power Stone) can easily top average games that only have the premise of their popular IP (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Smash-Up).
Wtf!? on the second picture of the article,
what is that drug addict Kirby?
if microsoft followed suit then the roster would be smaller than what would be expected for a smash bros or all stars type of game. unless they use a ton of third party.
Gee, wonder where I've heard this before?
I don't know. I'm not really that excited about Playstation all stars, so I'm not too sure about microsoft following the same path.
Like motion controls?