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Is it Microsoft’s Turn for a Smash Bros. Clone?

Sony has finally unveiled their “Super Smash Bros. killer” in Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale and we are left wondering, is it Microsoft’s turn? Here are 15 characters that say “bring it on!”

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NYC_Gamer4803d ago

MS doesn't have enough characters to do a SB like fighter

Relientk774803d ago

Also I think everyone would just want to be Master Chief or Marcus Phoenix. Then whats the point if everyone just wants to be those 2 characters.

Awesome_Gamer4803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

They don't have enough characters..

WombBat4803d ago

I made a small list a long time ago.

Master Chief
Sgt. Johnson
The Rookie
Arbiter
Marcus Fenix
Dom Santiago
Locust horde Gunner
Banjo kazooie
Conker the squirrel
Greg the grim reaper
Tediz
Joanna Dark
Shu(BlueDragon)
Agent(crackdown)
Fable Character
Smoker(Left4Dead)
Kaim Argonar(LostOdyssey)
zac (fuzion Frenzy)
splosion man

Outside_ofthe_Box4803d ago

IMO opinion it would hurt for Mircosoft to try and make one.

But since it appears that 360 players don't want a "SSB clone" I don't see the sense of Microsoft making one.

WombBat4803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

speak for yourself. I know a ton of people that want MS Smash bros.

The Sony smash bros looks pretty good. Microsoft will probably make one next. Im just shocked it took this long for someone else to make a smash bros-like game because those games make a ton. Up until now, its really been a monopoly.

MS will only be able to make 1 game though because the sequel will need more characters.

Outside_ofthe_Box4803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

I meant "it *wouldn't* hurt" to try in my first comment.

@Wombat

Oh they do want one. I've seen plenty of people here crying foul for Sony ripping Nintendo off that I naturally I thought they wouldn't want one lol. But silly me should have known that N4G =/= the world.

Despite not having a lot of characters I still think it would be ideal for Microsoft make one. They could add third party characters for their sequel if need be.

Arnon4803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

You could add Geralt from The Witcher 2 onto that list now. They might as well make their version of it M rated what with their larger franchises being rated M.

WombBat4803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

@outsidethebox

The whole third party games thing doesnt suit me right. It just didnt click with me, it kind of killed the whole theme for me. I didnt like it when smash bros added sonic and snake even though i love both franchises.

but about those haters of playstation smash, thats why i dont even or take the time to respond to negative comments anymore. keep it positive broski.

I dont own a Ps3, but that playstation smash bros looks dope.

ShinMaster4803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

So multiple characters from the same one games, Halo and Gears?
Random Fable guy? Don't see it working. The two JRPGs however, yes.
The rest are former third-party characters and multiplatform characters(yes PC counts).

But... ehh sure why not, lol

Trebius4803d ago

lol@wombat

bunch of characters that arent memorable and no one would care to play with. This genre of game is out of microsoft's league. They just dont have the 1st party titles...itd just be Master chief and a grunt or two from gears, the rest .... alan wake and his flashlight? too human? ... nah....

nix4803d ago

MS' version of SB would be to give every character a gun and make it FPS.

digitaleraser4803d ago

BATTLETOADS.

How has this discussion gone on this long without anyone mentioning that MS owns Battletoads?

TheLastGuardian4803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

The character select screen for Microsoft's Smash Bros. clone has been leaked! All our favorite Xbox heroes are there. This game is gonna sell so many copies. I can't wait!

http://img100.imageshack.us...

Shepherd 2144803d ago

To be fair the xbox has only had two generations while the playstation has had three console generations and various handhelds and nintendo has like five and a bazillion handhelds. another generation or two and xbox would have plenty.

EVILDEAD3604802d ago

TBH..I think it'll be a waste of time. The 360 games just don't lend well to that kind of game experience. The verdict is out on if the PS3 game has the kind impact and draw from the install base that will make it on par with the Nintendo classic franchise.

I do love when the 360 franchises do the cross game easter egg experiences. Fable 2's Halo Armor and the Warthog in Forza 4 were priceless.

Lee

Shepherd 2144802d ago

Oh, stealth disagrees. I see. Im not sure what part of my post was wrong. Care to actually provide an explanation as to why i am wrong? There are lots of characters in the PS Battle Royale game that came out of the PS1 era before the xbox even existed. The playstation has had 17 years and nintendo has had 20+ years to build characters, while the xbox has only had 11.

NukaCola4802d ago

If MS wants to compete in the fighter world, the need to tell RARE to stop making casual crap and make a damn new Killer Instinct. I mean do they realize what that would do? That is one of the greatest fighters in history.

BattleAxe4802d ago (Edited 4802d ago )

MS will just pay Activision to use Captain Price, then they'll pay EA to use that dude from Dead Space, then they'll pay Ubisoft to use Ezio..... and then they'll call it MS All Stars.

Dee_914802d ago

i wouldnt mind seeing some gory kinectamals fight to the death

Shadow Flare4802d ago

Microsoft have so few memorable characters, I wouldn't be surprised to see them include Milo in their game. His special move could be throwing a frisbee at the others head

MAJ0R4802d ago

I was about to say that too. I really didn't know who more than half of the character WombBat listed were. MS simply just does not have enough memorable characters to make one.

The only worthy character that could really be recognizable would be Master Chief but that's it. The Rookie? Smoker (not even 1st party)? Joana Dark? Greg the grim reaper? I mean come on, these are just not characters who come to mind when thinking about MS.

sikbeta4802d ago

They should do it just for the lulz and to make Nintendo fanboys more mad than they're right now lol

tokugawa4802d ago

ps3/360 owner here..

i wont buy it on the ps3 and i wouldnt buy it on the 360!

theres my opinion on this

thats_just_prime4802d ago

This is a good idea for MS cause it could help spark interest in old Ip’s and lead to them getting remakes or sequels. Here a list of characters that could be in the game

Master Chief (Halo)
Cortana (Halo)
Marcus Fenix (Gears of War)
Dom Santiago (Gears of War)
B. Orchid (Killer Instant)
Fulgore (Killer Instant)
Theresa (Fable)
Jack of Blades (Fable)
Kaim (Lost Odyssey)
Seth Balmore (Lost Odyssey)
Alan Wake
Hawk (Brute Force)
Agent(crackdown)
Joanna Dark
Kameo
King Thorn (Kameo)
Splosion Man
Banjo kazooie
Conker the squirrel
Gregg the grim reaper (Conker)
Blinx

3rd parties that started on Xbox

Darth Raven (Knights of the old Republic) he’s only been seen on xbox
Abe (odd world)
Commander Shepard (Mass Effect)
Big Daddy (Bioshock)

Consoldtobots4802d ago

why can't someone write an article that reads. "Is it Microsofts turn to be stop copying everything Sony does?"
That's an article I would read over this garbage.

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units4803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

Conker
Crackdown
Blinx
Splosion Man
Fable
Joanna Dark
Kameo
The Gunstringer
Lost Odyssey
Blue Dragon
Arbiter
Killer Instinct
Marcus Fenix
Master Chief

dark-hollow4803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

come to think of it, they have a decent amount of franchises....

but why in the hell they stopped making games for them is just beyond my mind!!!

@blackburn

i wont call radec and fat princess that popular too.

blackburn104803d ago

No offense but that is really scraping the bottom of the barrel with some of those characters. I mean if you think people don't remember Sony's characters even worse for these. Who even really remembers Kameo, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon or Blinx unless you go look it up?

I at least know many of the people who owned PS1s and PS2s remember Parapper the Rapper, Sweet Tooth,Crash, Spyro, Ratchet and Clank, Sir Dan and Sly but many of the things you named didn't even sell very well

OneAboveAll4803d ago

Let's not forget about Alan Wake! :D

Ravenor4803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

@Blackburn10

Sony doesn't own Crash and Spyro, unless they work something out with Activision neither will be in the game.

Also, not every character in Melee or Brawl was a universally known/loved Nintendo character.

*edit* I'm not wrong, Activision is the holder of both Crash Bandicoot and Spyro the Dragon. Not Sony, Not Naughty Dog and not Insomniac...sorry, I know it sucks. I used to think of Crash as Sony's Mario(It was the 90's come on), guess Sony never felt the same way. *edit*

Relientk774803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

^ @OneAboveAll

nice job on bringing up Alan Wake, you were the first

*edit @ Megaton below, where did u find that? lol

m2stech4803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

DUPE REMOVE MY COMMENT PLZ!

sarshelyam4803d ago

Correction, they don't have enough memorable FIRST PARTY characters.

SPAM-FRITTER-1234803d ago

did you actually get disagreed for stating characters. lol. way to go guys.

Redempteur4803d ago

@Ravenor

3rd party characters ( not owned by sony ) are confirmed for their game even if they didn't disclose any names (yet)..

so everything is open ATM...

h311rais3r4803d ago

Don't know why u got disagrees it makes a good roster. Have 3 characters from each game and there u go. It's like 30 characters. They don't have to be memerable to be in the game. Some ssb characters I never knew about.

Ravenor4803d ago

@Redempteur

Well, I sincerely hope that Crash is in it.

mt4803d ago

not to be fanboy, but listing games is different than memorable characters.

ShabbaRanks4803d ago

I WANNA PLAY AS CONKER !!!!!

:D my fav N64 game... They f**cked it up on the Xbox. The SP graphics were awesome, but the MP was sh*t ... Never understood why they changed it. The MP was perfect on the N64. It was the Halo of the N64 :P

palaeomerus4803d ago

MS own the video game rights for FASA properties. So Battletech, Crimson Skies, Shadowrun, can be mined for interesting characetrs.

Big famous ones? Not so much. But lots of mixed stuff to make an interesting game? That's not hard.

SuperBeast8114803d ago

dont forget STUBBS from Stubbs the Zombie!! classic.....

cee7734803d ago

brute force gator
windows 95
windows 98
windows 2000
windows 98 second edition
xbox duke controller BOSS

EPIC!!!

Liquid_Ocelot4802d ago

How come nobody mentions Skittles!? What's wrong with games this days!? I want to play as Skittles so I can caress my opponents with my paws and lick their faces!

2v14802d ago

most of thoes are game names............

Shadow Flare4802d ago

A fighting game that only uses memorable xbox characters is already being made for 360.

It's called Halo 4

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SPAM-FRITTER-1234803d ago

SDF are missing you. go home.

Megaton4803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

I haven't owned a PS3 since 2009, so I dunno why the SDF would be missing me. I game on PC. If you can't recognize the severe original character drought on Xbox, then I might suggest your bizarre loyalties to certain companies are blurring your vision of reality.

TheColbertinator4803d ago

lmao nice list Megaton.

A hidden bonus character would be the Spartan from Dead or Alive 4.

MerkinMax4803d ago

I'm a 360 fan and I lol'd at that. Lighten up spam...

mynameisEvil4802d ago

Hmm... I think they forgot about Master Chief.

tokugawa4802d ago

lol megaton that just made me laugh good stuff

Patriots_Pride4802d ago

@MEGATON - You know whats funny, that master chief brawler would outsell Sonys brawler by millions.

Sony will screw this game up by not marketing it correctly - they will probably make a commercial with KB and just show him playing the game on a tv instead of 3 minutes worth of footage of the actual game.

blvdnights14144802d ago

I love the face palm master chief on the bottom row. It's as if he just realized what game he's been put in.

Skizelli4802d ago

What's funny is TheLastGuardian already posted that image above and nobody said anything.

Megaton4802d ago

@Skizelli - Look at the times on the posts. I posted it hours before him.

Skizelli4801d ago

Touche, Megaton. Touche.

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TheFinalEpisode4803d ago

They could make a cool SSB-type game but most characters would be 3rd party...Which would lead to some pretty insane mash-ups.

Fylus4803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

I forgot that game ever existed.

It was fun, just not memorable.

gta_manic4803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

I think Microsoft wants to forget that they made that game and how much they spent on it.

KMCROC544803d ago

How about a few folks from L4D 1,2.

mynameisEvil4802d ago

@KMCROC54
I highly doubt Valve would lend those characters to Microsoft. In the end, Valve is a PC/Mac company and those characters would go to a PC/Mac SSB game, if ever those was one made (not including The Showdown Effect).

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KING854803d ago

Not to be trolling, but I totally agree with that sentiment. Microsoft does not have enough studios to make a game such as a "smash bros. clone". Master chief, perhaps a gears of war character, ol banjo kazoo, fable character, and a forza car is what comes to mind. The last one was a poor attempt at a joke :)However just because Sony is doing one does not mean MS has to follow suit. Microsoft is doing well enough to survive without one.

soljah4803d ago

what mascots they don't have they can always buy

Liquid_Ocelot4802d ago

You mean off day-one DLC? ;)

ritsuka6664803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

I can list a lot of charachters:

Master chief,blinx, joana dark,banjo kazoie,kameo,fable,viva pinata,blue dragon,etc,etc...

Wintersun6164802d ago (Edited 4802d ago )

Who?

I don't consider 8 to be "a lot".

Veneno4802d ago

There's alot of people with the same list, but I think the majority of gamers hardcore or not would say "who is that?" to most of those characters.

This type of game works for NIntendo and Sony because they're characters are popular, recognizable, and interesting. MS just doesn't have enough hard-hitting characters unless they just bought up dozens of 3rd party characters which is always possible.

Honky Kong4803d ago

yep.
the main difference is Nintendo has lots of its OWN characters.
despite people saying all they do is recycle characters.

Exquisik4802d ago

Pokemon alone gives them more than 450 characters...

NastyLeftHook04803d ago

yep microsoft doesn't have enough charecters

kaveti66164803d ago

"MS doesn't have enough characters to do a SB like fighter"

Neither does Sony. That's why Battle Royale is going to feature third party characters, because a Sony only roster wouldn't hold up. I mean, Parappa the Rapper? Fat Princess? Come on.

But, yeah, in comparison to Sony and Nintendo, Microsoft hasn't invested in very many iconic characters save for Master Chief and perhaps the guys from Gears of War. If they reached deep into their history they might pull out that time-traveling cat, Blinx, but really who would want to play as that?

sjaakiejj4802d ago

Sony actually does have a lot of characters associated with Playstation, as they have a lot of first-party studios, each with a large number of IPs. Sony has 17 years of history with original IPs, with a lot of memorable characters. Parappa is shown as it shows how far back the roster goes in time, and Fat Princess is probably there due to the company that owns the IP being one of the co-producers.

kaveti66164802d ago

If Sony had enough characters to have their own roster, they wouldn't pad it with third-party characters. But they are padding it, which means they've decided internally that they need other characters to be included to make the game worthwhile.

Parappa the Rapper is such a weak character. And has no salience in the modern gaming sphere, which is why third party characters have to be used. They're more popular and will resonate with players. A Big Daddy from the Bioshock games will be more popular in this game than Parappa.

sjaakiejj4802d ago

That Parappa has no salience in the modern gaming sphere is _exactly_ why he is in the game. There's something for everyone ;)

Third Party games are a big part of Sony's history, and many of them were exclusive to Playstation. Whether these were first or third party doesn't really mean they weren't the face of Playstation, and that's what they're trying to do with this game. Every character (or rather, IP) that has some historical significance to the brand will be in the game, and that includes third-party games.

That's not padding, that's going to whole mile ;)

kaveti66164802d ago

By your logic, Microsoft's platform also has a lot of characters (third party, of course) to choose from a bunch of games associated with 360 and the Original Xbox (exclusive or not):

Bioshock
Mass Effect
Lost Planet
Gears of War
Bayonetta
Alan Wake
Lost Odyssey
Army of Two
Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts
BF Bad Company
Beautiful Katamari
Blue Dragon
Bomberman Act Zero
Bulletstorm
Chromehounds
Crackdown
Dead or Alive 4
Dead Rising
Dead Space
Fable II and III
Final Fantasy XIII
Inifinite Undiscovery
Kameo Elements of Power
Metal Gear Solid Revengeance
Ninety Nine Nights
Naruto Rise of a Ninja
Ninja Blade
Ninja Gaiden 2
Perfect Dark Zero
Prey
Prototype
Quake 4
Resident Evil 5
Soul Caliber IV (Yoda)
Chronicles of Riddick
The Last Remnant
The Witcher 2
Too Human
Viva Pinata
Wolfenstein
Blinx the Time Sweeper
Black
Brute Force
Conker Live and Reloaded
Doom 3
Enter the Matrix
Fable
Grabbed by the Ghoulies
Jade Empire
Jet Set Radio Future
MechAssault
Oddworld Munch's Odyssey
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Psychonauts
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic
Timesplitters 2

And of course, Halo.

sjaakiejj4802d ago (Edited 4802d ago )

You misunderstood what I said. The franchises you mentioned are not directly associated with Xbox, whilst the third-party games I spoke about _are_ directly associated with Playstation.

With that I mean, to be clear, that the franchises have a symbolic meaning to the platform and its owners, where seeing the character automatically associated it with the platform. Like Mario and Nintendo.

As such, Sony has franchises such as Spyro and Crash Bandicoot, both of which are Third Party licenses but still synonymous with Playstation. Same goes for titles such as Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy, both of which, whilst not exclusive, are still synonymous with the Playstation brand for most gamers.

Looking at your list, I can guarantee that most people will not associate any of them with Xbox, with the exception of Halo, Fable and Gears of War. Both Conker and Banjo are often associated with Nintendo, whilst a game like Oddworld is usually associated with Playstation.

Veneno4802d ago

kaveti is just being a hater as always. padding with 3rd party characters? HA.Did SFx Tekken, Mortal kombat, Dead or Alive, Super smash bros, or Soul Calibur need to pad their games? No. they added them because, ya know, it's fun and people like it. Gaming crossovers are Always about fun.

And what happened to the "PS Allstars is a clone'? so now that we're talking about MS, this kind of thing is no longer about being a clone? That's the x-bots for ya.

VsAssassin4802d ago

They are going to 'include' 3rd party characters, not promote them. And we've only seen 6 of the character roster, so you can't judge the game yet when it comes to 1st party character variety. If you've been around the era of the original PS brand to date, you probably have an idea that Sony has, and I say it again,'has' a lot of 1st party characters.

To give you an idea of the 1st party, and owned characters that they can bring to the table, consider these:

Nathan Drake (duh)
Cole McGrath (Infamous 1 and 2)
ICO and/or Wander (Team ICO)
Dart (Legend of Dragoon)
Journey character (Journey)
Jen Tate (Primal)
Lazarus Jones (Ghost Hunter)
Logan (Syphon Filter)
Tomba (Tomba)
Nariko (Hevaenly Sword)
Nathan Hale (Resistance)

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ginsunuva4803d ago

This article is actually stealth trolling by calling Battle Royale a SSB clone.

Rattlehead204802d ago

Errr...It is.

Not that it's a bad thing.

humbleopinion4802d ago

Aren't people aware that you don't really need a list of mascots to create a proper SB like brawler? Capcom came up last gen with Power Stone, which was actually better then most of their games and could easily rival any SB game - and all that without a cast of familiar mascots from other games. All you need is solid gameplay.

In fact, MS themselves ALREADY HAVE a Smash Bros clone (with unfamiliar cast). It's called "Small Arms" and while nowhere near as good as SB or Power Stone, it sells for a mere 5$ in XBLA and has a unique gameplay twist (with focus on gunplay and ammo collection) which makes it worthwhile enough for the low asking price. Very good for 4 player co-op mayhem.

princejb1344802d ago

the characters aren't very interesting for a fighting based game
and I'm a bit confused on where banjo belongs
i know MS bought rare but banjo first started as a exclusive under nintendo

showtimefolks4802d ago

you know all these fanboys crying about sony doing SSB just to copy nintendo last time i checked any company can make any game, also if i want to play a game like SSB do i have to have a wii or nintendo console why? There is no wrong no foul play or anything sony has been making games for a long time they have enough characters so why can't they make one?

and MS should be next if their fans want one nintendo doesn't own the right to be the only one that can make games like those.

Kalowest4802d ago

"MS doesn't have enough characters to do a SB like fighter"

LMAO you should look at MS IP list.

Suddenbrain4802d ago

Neither does Sony really. SB had something like 35 characters the last time around. There's no way Sony or Microsoft would offer a roster that big without dipping into some multiplatform characters.

Veneno4802d ago

Smash bros has 3rd party characters as well.

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dark-hollow4803d ago

imagine the rooster!
master chief, marcus fenix, a car from forza.

Relientk774803d ago

I was going through the franchises in my head, and totally thought of a car from Forza lol

mr_badhand4803d ago

Alice in Chaines, they come to snuff the rooster?

Great song.

But they could add Joanna Dark, Banjo, Conker, characters from Toy Soldiers and also get some third party characters to increase the roster.

PhantomTommy4803d ago

Yeaahhh, here comes the rooster!

KMCROC544803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

L4D 1,2 cast or some from Jade Empire or kotor charecthers borrowed.

KING854803d ago

I didn't even see your car from forza joke there! I thought I was the first to make that joke. LMAO!!!!

LackTrue4K4803d ago

not a car from 4orza, but a track for a stage...

that cuts the list back to 2!!! lol......

sjaakiejj4802d ago

Nah, they could always use the driver of the car from Forza, and have his special be that he enters his car and drives around with it, complete with realistic physics :D

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user54670074803d ago

If they did I bet it wouldn't be called a SSB clone

Baka-akaB4803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

well to be fair it would probably be some kinect thingie

metsgaming4803d ago

omg 4 people trying to play a fighting game on kinect, imagine how hilarious would that look like.

Majin-vegeta4803d ago

@Metsgaming

I got a pretty good idea of how it would look xDDD.

http://youtu.be/YCFoDuCY-aI

Ravenor4803d ago

Delusion, it's a hell of a drug.

PhantomTommy4803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

Playstation all stars is a SSB clone, that's why people say it's a SSB clone. It would be the same for Microsoft.

Sgt_Slaughter4803d ago

It's not a clone, just inspired by SSB, which is a great thing for mutli-console gamers.

Outside_ofthe_Box4803d ago

How about this, it wouldn't get bashed for being a clone.

user54670074803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

For the people above saying "No" and "it would be the same as Sony"

If theres anything this gen has told us about is the fact that when it's Sony it's either bad/milking/copying....when it's MS it gets a free pass.

The same would be apply with a MS SSB game

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@KeiserSosay4788

Wow...do what every MS fanboy does, call someone with an opinion which is negetive towards MS a fanboy

You type of people make me embarrassed to even be a gamer, where you think anyone who isn't blind about what a company does is a fanboy. Sony has gotten a ton of hate this gen...thats not me pulling BS from my ass it's fact.

@Ravenor

"Sony seems to be following Nintendo around (Move/This game/ LBP karting etc)."

Move was in development before the Wii (look it up), people have begged Sony to make a SSB game for years it's called giving gamers what they want not following Nintendo around and LBP Karting......what so no one can make a kart racing game because it's automaticaly a Mario Kart Clone.....REALLY <sigh>

Megaton4803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

Yeah, they release Kinect and it seems like everyone but Morgan Webb developed amnesia and decided that Microsoft invented motion cameras.

Sony's new game is clearly the Smash Bros. clone that fans have been asking them to make for nearly a decade, but I imagine people would be playing a different tune if the ball were in Microsoft's court. Someone always finds some way to spin things in their favor.

KeiserSosay47884803d ago

yes, do what the typical Sony fanboy does...play the victim and follow it by blatant elitism. You guys make me embarrassed to own one, sometimes.
Keep in mind I said "Sony Fanboy" not Sony fan.

Ravenor4803d ago

Oh please, you can't be serious. You are!? WOW! Wanna pull out the tampon? This game looks aesthetically and design wise extremely similar to SSB. Doesn't matter what platform this game came out on it was going to draw the comparison and it was inevitably going to be said that Sony seems to be following Nintendo around (Move/This game/ LBP karting etc).

I don't think I can handle much more of this place.

jthamind4803d ago

@Ravenor

trust me, you're not alone. we both know Sony got heavy inspiration from Nintendo this gen. it's not a big deal, though--people follow what's successful. is the Sony Battle Royal a SSB clone? hell yes, it is. there's flat out no denying it. but does that mean it won't be fun? nope, of course it's going to be fun.

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Klipz-Wish4803d ago

Make Killer Instinct instead

GamingPerson4803d ago (Edited 4803d ago )

it will be for kinect though.

tip of the day: Never support a company when you are not their primary target audience.

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Halo Reportedly Coming To PlayStation Soon, No Switch 2 Version Planned Yet

The Halo series is reportedly headed over to PlayStation consoles in the near future, while a Nintendo Switch 2 version is not yet planned.

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slate9112d ago

MS probably didn't want the negative press for over a year about Halo coming to sony, which is why they didn't reveal it this year. IMO

InUrFoxHole12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I dont think that's it. Gears coming to PS is a big deal and we already know that MS is bridging all games. I think its gonna be a next year reveal or when ever they reveal the new xbox. I tell you what's funny. At 1st all gamers were in arms about MS bringing games to PS. Hardcore xbox were mad. Hardcore sony were happy and some trolling. Admittedly at 1st I didn't like it. Truth is for years these companies have been training their consumers to have brand loyalty and believe that certain games were only possibly because of the company they were made under. When you turn that silliness off you realize as a consumer this is one of the best things to happen in gaming. You have the choice to play where you like.

slate9112d ago

Totally agree. MS lost the console war so they moved into publishing where there is money to be made. Now everyone can have the once-exclusive gems on their system of choice.

InUrFoxHole11d ago

@Slate91
Agreed. No way in hell MS is gonna catch anyone in console sales. They're gonna go where the money is.

Shiro17311d ago

Now you clearly have a choice. That would be playstation. You can get Xbox games and all Playstation only games. Why in the hell would anyone buy a Xbox over a ps or pc is beyond me now.

dveio11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

"When you turn that silliness off you realize as a consumer this is one of the best things to happen in gaming.“

Microsoft easily could have told anyone in 2020 already.

They already knew how their next 5 years would evolve, didn't they? In hindsight?

So people could at least have thought about it twice if they'd pay for an X or S - or instead just buy a PS5 right away.

What I am saying is:

Nice try.

But I personally won't ever buy into their "It's about choices to play/we want to reach everyone" BS.

All they care about is money.

Especially 1st party exclusives are a special and completely logical treatment for your own hardware to offer at least some unique selling points to people.

The problem for Microsoft was they just hadn't any. In 2020. And they didn't know it in 2020 first, no, no.

They had 7 years from 2013 to 2020 to prepare for the Series Generation. Which they did - but they didn't tell their community just yet.

And this is just cheap and gutless, now disguised as "We care for everyone!", and again held up by their very own community, at least parts of it.

Because the Xbox brand will have lost another 12-20'ish million users between Xbox One and X|S.

For reasons. Don't you think?

If Microsoft could have done the ways they wanted, e.g. leaked throughout the FTC trial, they just would have bought everything.

From Sega, CD Projekt Red, Capcom, From Software, Warner Bros.

To even Nintendo and Valve.

And don't forget: they had already bought Zenimax and ABK, and STILL wanted more!

Microsoft is a cancer in the gaming business. And I very much wonder how people still don't see through it!

InUrFoxHole11d ago

@devio
You're conflating 2 different things. There stance is absolutely 💯 play anywhere. You can't deny that. But what they are doing is separate from why they are doing it. If you think any of these companies do it for any reason other than $, then you are fooled. MS hand was forced by piss poor decisions. I'm not blind to that

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darthv7212d ago

I say bring it... for years Sony fans have been saying they needed a Halo killer. Well... now they can play Halo themselves and enjoy what millions of XB fans have been enjoying. Why settle for the rest when you can play the best.

JEECE12d ago

"for years Sony fans have been saying they needed a Halo killer"

Lol are you posting this comment through a portal from the year 2008? The "halo killer" narrative died a long time ago.

Cacabunga12d ago

Darth is stuck in time.. Halo killer was born on xbox OG. Killzone 1 started it but the idea vanished when KZ2 was released in 2008 or 2009.

Profchaos12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Halo killed itself

CrashMania12d ago

Yep, halo has already has a couple of killers, Microsoft and 343.

S2Killinit11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Halo died when Bungie was not longer involved, a slow death, but surely 343 studios killed it with each iteration.

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The_Hooligan12d ago

I don't know man, lately it seems Halo is the Halo killer. In my opinion Reach was the last good halo game. Although I prefer ODST's campaign over Reach but man that Reach MP was so good.

IAMRealHooman12d ago

343 studios was the halo killer

TiredGamer12d ago

“343 studios was the halo killer”

No truer words have ever been spoken.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago

Halo 5 was much better than Halo reach. (MP)

tebis112d ago

It was said for a few years, then Halo decide to kill itself.

Profchaos12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

At this point though who hasn't played halo its not like its been cost prohibitive to go buy an old 360 or play it on pc

KwietStorm_BLM12d ago

The media said that. Time and time again. People minding their business on PlayStation didn't say they need a Halo killer. That doesn't even make sense.

1Victor11d ago

@darth: “ I say bring it... for years Sony fans have been saying they needed a Halo killer”
Wait I thought the halo killer was its tv show😂🤣

Sony had a lot of halo killers but couldn’t commit to one all better in one way or another than halo better graphics and gameplay without aim assist = kill zone.
Better multiplayer: Warhawk 32 players and Starhawk 64 players and a lot of fun to play.
Honorable Benton socom so yeah I blame Sony for not committing to what they had or putting it together 🤷🏿

Shiro17311d ago

Technically Halo killed itself.

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The Wood11d ago

Flux Capacitor....... send me the link please Darth

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ocelot0712d ago

If it's not Infinite or Master Chief Collection. Then maybe it's just a complete collection? Halo 1-5 + ODST and Infinite with a £70 price tag.

neutralgamer199212d ago

I think that would be smart but with how MS are handling gears we may see them bring 1 game at a time and charge $50 for each. I wss hoping for a complete gears of war collection

Gears 1-5 all dlx & Gears judgement for $80 but instead we get 1 game. Just like Sony are remastering and remaking games we will see MS now do the same

Eonjay12d ago

Why would Microsoft wait to put this on Switch 2? In a perfect world it would have come to the original Switch.... but if this is not possible, they may be looking to cash in on the fact that it is very likely that most Swich 2 onwers will also a PS5 meaning that they can get a lot of double dippers simply by staggering the releases. I think this is true for multiple Xbox Studios games on PS5. By the next Summer games fest, expect an onslaught of games coming to Switch in the same way they are coming to PlayStation now.

Levii_9212d ago

Halo 2 MCC is one of the best games ever.

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Michiel1989111d ago

playstation all stars would have been good if you could finish without ultimate moves. Made the game so boring and repetitive. The rest of the combat was really fun but that just killed it for me. Look at smash where you can get such creative kills and here you just wait for lvl 3 ult and press one button.

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Gears Of War Creator Urges Devs To Make Single-Player Games Amid EA's Live Service Focus

Gears of War's creator has spoken out against the trend of turning established franchises into live services, urging developers to focus on single-player experiences.

Relientk77136d ago

I agree with Cliff for once.

Single player games > GaaS

JEECE136d ago

Too bad he didn't have this opinion when he chased trends with Lawbreakers. Or when he chased trends with Radical Heights.

Popsicle136d ago (Edited 136d ago )

He learned from the mistake or he wouldn’t be advocating for more single player experiences. I find this refreshing in a world where we often see people so stubborn that they tend to double down on a mistake which results in making things even worse. Seriously, good for him!

JEECE136d ago

@Popsicle

Oh for sure, better late than never. And better to somewhat own up to your mistakes, rather than just blaming your release window, or advertising partners, or gamers lol.

anast135d ago

@Popsicle

Of course we will never know his intentions, but it's hard to believe he is just a naive agent that is learning from his mistakes.

-Foxtrot136d ago

He could have done one himself after Gears of War but he did Lawbreakers…look how that turned out.

RaidenBlack136d ago

Not converting Jawbreakers into F2P was the final nail in the CliffyB coffin.

Knushwood Butt136d ago

Jawbreakers would have been a better name! Heck, I might just go and trademark that right now.

BISHOP-BRASIL135d ago

@Knushwood

Aren't those a kind of candy already?

coolbeans136d ago

You're missing the point. His studio's short lifespan is what *inspired* him to make this comment in the first place.

-Foxtrot136d ago

Oh I know the point...I'm just stating the obvious and how stupid he was in the beginning to jump on a trend he had no real experience in. A first person hero shooter with heavy GaaS elements is a lot different than the multiplayer in Gears of War.

He'd have been better creating something like Gears of War again, a great single player story and a good online mode.

coolbeans136d ago

-"A first person hero shooter with heavy GaaS elements is a lot different than the multiplayer in Gears of War."

I mean... you're kinda muddying terms when Gears has always had a strong multiplayer component. Even if I grant you that, Cliffy B started cementing himself at Epic with Unreal Tournament, which was among the earliest shooter series to have "proto-GaaS elements" (downloadable maps, cosmetics, special editions that bundle stuff together). Lawbreakers and Radical Heights (were it finished) weren't major career shifts to him like they would be for, say, Fumito Ueda.

Regardless of that, it's still kinda useless to state the obvious when CliffyB himself made his comments with the benefit of hindsight already.

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CrimsonWing69136d ago (Edited 136d ago )

Look, these a-hole publishers can do this, in fact I want them to, so they can f*ck around and find out and fail hard scaring away everyone else from doing this live service push.

This industry is run by some of the dumbest corporate pieces of sh*t I’ve ever seen. They spend stupid amount of money with literally nothing that stands out from games from the previous generation (look at Arkham Knight to the $200 mill Suicide Squad comparison vids), you’re overpaying devs, and you focus on games as a service to milk consumers that a lot of them grew up off traditional games. We’re not idiots, we sniff this sh*t out and won’t touch it.

So, what’s your answer to not getting a ROI? Raise game prices and double down on GaaS so you can suck your consumers dry. That model only works for some games and even then how in hell do you expect it to work with multiple games!? They’re ruining the damn hobby with this corporate greed.

Cut back on dev budgets, cut back on how much your staff is getting paid, until sales for games bring in a profit. That’s the answer and make some games that feel like there’s passion behind them, not some cookie cut up game that feels like the entire existence behind it is to offer as little as it can with repetitive bullsh*t and selling off all this content throughout its life. It’s gross.

anast135d ago

I agree with every point here.

Redemption-64135d ago

Games do bring in a profit, it's the greed that is killing the industry. Here is a fact, live service games overall make more, significantly more money than single player games

What you should be asking is executives not wanting continuous growth or firing them. Saying devs should be fired when those who are fitting the bills and setting unrealistic expectations would make things worse. What do y9u think would happen if they released say, 30 single player games and over half of them fail? You are going after the wrong crowd.

DankSinatra136d ago

About time he learned. I guess he finally stopped blaming everyone else and took accountability for his mistakes and realized that people really don't care that much for trends or live service.

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