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Swimming in the Blu-ray tar pit: Developer's view

With wind in its sails from the recent defection by Warner Brothers into the Blu-ray exclusive camp, Blu-ray's future looks a lot brighter. That future, however, involves a lot of flux for consumers, as Blu-ray needs to standardize the kind of features that HD DVD had from day one.

This means that players capable of being upgraded remotely (e.g. the PS3) have the advantage, while standalone players which can't be so easily upgraded are faced with being unable to use features in the latest Blu-ray DVDs (assuming they can still play them…which remains to be seen).

Representatives at the Blu-ray booth at CES told BetaNews that the PlayStation 3 is currently the only player they would recommend, due to upcoming changes to the platform. But Pioneer, Samsung, Panasonic and Sony have all been selling standalone Blu-ray players to customers.

This serves to perpetuate the dominance of the Blu-ray market by the PS3, which accounts for 75% of all Blu-ray playback devices in existence. That suits Sony well, though I fail to see why that would bring much cheer to Blu-ray's hardware partners.

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CeruleanSky6376d ago

Wow, another sour grapes HD-DVD article. Everyone loves reading these.

Just change the shark picture to a cry baby image...

Kholinar6376d ago

It is somewhat true for one aspect.... I don't think, for example, that most people care if they don't get picture in picture or other advanced features, but a simple updated encryption is vital.

Most non-tech people will be taking their players and discs back if they have to burn a firmware disc every time there's a security update. Manufacturers will have to start mailing discs out to consumers just to keep decent relations... Not having wifi or some plan for updates besides burning a disc is a massive failure in planning. I didn't think ethernet in HDDVD was a good enough solution either, but at least it was an attempt.

As it is they'll probably just stop trying to update the encryption after a few hacks. So all the vaunted security will be useless.

InYourMom6376d ago

Beta Blu-ray

So true, so true..

Buyer Beware!

Maddens Raiders6376d ago (Edited 6376d ago )

too bad your Dad was InYourMom. Poor guy. Now try to read the article again without pausing for one letter words. PM me if you need any help.

darthv726376d ago

of the other members of the bda, they can quietly add support for hddvd playback where as the ps3 cant do that with a fw update. The blue lasers are getting cheaper and with no need of a defraction plate like the first gen combo units means adding support for the "rival" format all that more appealing to those who make players.

Every ps3 sold benefits Sony and no one else...well, maybe the movie studios. Do you think pioneer gets any love from sony on ps3 sales? They make players just as good as sony and yet people dont buy them so what is their motivation to stay to one side? If it is more cost effective to sell a combo player for the same cost as a one sided player, more companies will opt for that.

The same thing happened with +/- dvdr's. It was eventually cheaper to support burning to both formats as opposed to only one. I am not saying this will save hddvd but it could stimulate the studios to be more neutral and see they only stand to make $$ no matter which format their content is available on. Combo dvd/hddvd, bluray, downloadable, It would be the same content just in more user friendly choices.

jlytle12346376d ago (Edited 6376d ago )

if it would have just been a painful angry roar and not actually a "NOOOOOOOOO" that would have been so much more dramatic and less corny.
edit: i cant believe i got a disagree. I thought revenge of the sith was a few dialogue edits away from greatness. you cant tell me that some of the dialogue in there was so corny that you didn't feel embarrassed watching it.

jlytle12346376d ago

i think there will be a huge market for combo players eventually. So people can keep their hddvd calatlouge and start a blurray catalouge.
why would a ps3 owner need a combo player when they have been buying bluray all along. and i can gurantee that movies that were only hddvd will eventually end up bluray.

Maddens Raiders6376d ago

Going out on a limb with that one huh? [es]

Huge market for combo players...ummm no.

jlytle12346376d ago (Edited 6376d ago )

well that guarantee was based on the scenario that bluray would win the format war. i should have said that at the time. obviously if bluray is the lone format they will re-release hddvd movies on bluray becasue their wont be a market for them.
Now the combo player idea i cant believe you dont see that. (for arugments sake we assume bluray wins) you bought an hddvd player early on and have a nice collection of movies. but your format isnt going to get any more movies. so you can either buy a bluray player and have a bluray and hddvd player hooked up or shelf the hddvd player and buy a combo player. the point is youre going to have to buy a new player anyway.
edit:actually i thought about it. your combo player market will only be as big as the losing formats market minus people who own both already. so that market will be big seller at first and then eventually die off completely.

marcdz16376d ago (Edited 6376d ago )

Why would anyone think that owning 2 different types of disks is beneficial is beyond me. This is stupid in world of movies we only need one medium and there's no room for 2. Why would I go buy a stupid HD-DVD player for 250.00 to 300.00 dollars when all it does is play movies that are on a future dead format. PS3 comes with HD out of the box. You can do so many more things on PS3 than on a HD-DVD player. Most people own 10 or less HD-DVDs or Blu-Ray movies. It's not like were watching Hd content a freaking day long. For the price the PS3 is the best. Hell even the Xbox is good for all the extras but to buy a Player just to do nothing but sit there and every once in while turn it on is ridiculous. Edit! I forgot one more special point. Have you seen those FUGLY players. They look like the VHS-Players from the 80s all retro with ugly freaking grey buttons and some of them don't even have a digital display on the front. I refuse to add anything that looks like it came out of the 80s in my living room hahaha.

jorellpogi6375d ago

I second that. The article is lame and I won't be surprised if the author has invested a lot into HDDVD.

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Xbox June Update: Copilot for Gaming Available on Mobile, Aggregated Gaming Library, and More

There are many exciting updates this month for Xbox. Copilot for Gaming is available now for early preview on mobile and will be coming to PC soon. Xbox PC app introduces a wave of new updates: Aggregated gaming library gives players quick access to games from Xbox, Game Pass, and other leading PC storefronts, and with publisher channels players can browse their favorite franchises. Updates for the Xbox Console includes customization for Most Recently Used, free-to-play benefits, Game Hubs, and dialog improvements for game saves.

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darthv721d 4h ago

"Players can now hide system apps, pin favorites to the list, and reduce the number of tiles displayed. This update is part of our ongoing effort to make Home more personal, flexible, and responsive to feedback."

This is welcomed, i like a less cluttered home screen.

Profchaos22h ago

Not everything needs co pilot ms

1Victor6h ago

Gotta be a slow news day when a 18 hours and 3 comments (now 4)makes it to the front page🤷🏿
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Well anything that adds and help gamers is a good thing even if some don’t need it there’ll be more that will use it.

darthv726h ago

Well its MS news... those are usually pretty dry, unless it has something to do with another game being ported to PS. then its top of the pops.

Obscure_Observer5h ago

"Well its MS news... those are usually pretty dry, unless it has something to do with another game being ported to PS. then its top of the pops."

Oh look no further than the "Upcoming layoffs at MS" topic. It will easily top the Hottest of the week.

Special guests like Mr. Dead might also show up. You just watch.

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Playdead co-founder slammed with lawsuit as bitter row with co-founder escalates

Playdead co-founder Dino Patti is allegedly being sued by his former studio and business partner.
Patti was threatened with a lawsuit earlier this year after he posted a now-deleted LinkedIn post that shared an "unauthorized" picture of co-founder Arnt Jensen and discussed some of Limbo's development. Patti said Jensen demanded a little over $73,000 in "suitable compensation and reimbursement," adding that he had "repeatedly" had such letters over the last nine years.

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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Obscure_Observer5d ago

AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK4d ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent754d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM4d ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif4d ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Obscure_Observer4d ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin4d ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Obscure_Observer1d 4h ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever"

I´d told you were on some bs

https://www.pcgamesn.com/wp...

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Agent754d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer4d ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

KwietStorm_BLM3d ago

"I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released."

How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is.

Obscure_Observer3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

"How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is."

Dude, what I know for certain is that a tech as old as X3D chips which is actually *older* than both PS5 and Xbox Series consoles, is hardly the reason behind this new partnership between AMD and MS to build new *custom silicon* for next generation of consoles.

And yes it´s a huge announcement since AMD is working closely with MS to co-develop custom SoC which will allow backwards compatibility across all MS´s next gen devices allowing seamless integration between devices and full backwards compatibility across all generations of Xbox consoles.

I also know is that this announcement don´t have anything to do with Playstation and their strategy with AMD for the PS6, so stop comparing the two pretending that you know what´s going on, because you clearly don´t.

If Sony is working on something remotely similar, that´s remain to be seen.

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Fishy Fingers5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer5d ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused5d ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher5d ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning774d ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay4d ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer4d ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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