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Proof that PC gaming is Cheaper than Staying with your Console

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"Since I bought a gaming PC a while back, I have been met with people saying that they could never get into it because of the sheer price of making the swap. Since becoming a PC gamer however, things could not be more different. I have in fact found it in ways cheaper than console gaming and by writing this article I aim to prove this."

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StayStatic4820d ago (Edited 4820d ago )

True indeed , PC gaming is cheaper in Bulk , but if you do both PC and Console gaming its even worse :P

xAlmostPro4820d ago

This specifically picks the xbox.

This is not the case for PS3 or wii even.

No XBL cost and i personally have spent nowhere near £200 on accessories for my ps3 :/

I should note i'm a PS3/PC guy(so for me personally it's worse like StayStatic says)

h311rais3r4820d ago

Did you forget ps+ which I use? It's just as expensive as live but you can't get it as cheap as a live card.

jimbobwahey4820d ago

PS+ is entirely optional and not required to play games online like XBL Gold is. Also PS+ subscriptions save you money with all the discounts and free games that you get, so trying to compare the two isn't sensible.

The_ElderRat4820d ago

In my defence, over the course of 5 years, £200 is quite reasonable in my opinion with the list of accessories I prompted in the article. I have got through 5 controllers over the past 3 years which is around £160 in itself.

xAlmostPro4820d ago

@hellraiser i won't even respond to that.

@The_ElderRat Maybe i've went through less accessories wise for my ps3 because i also use PC.

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Gamer19824820d ago

They fail as they pick Xbox. Live itself is a waste of money. Sure its a decent service but its got nothing on PC's services that come for FREE. PS3 also offers a similar almost as good service for free. Don't get me wrong PC gaming is cheaper and better but he's trying too hard here. Than again 360 is the biggest selling next gen console in US and no doubt the writer is American.

cheesus4820d ago

The costing is done in pounds. Probably not American.

Baka-akaB4820d ago (Edited 4820d ago )

Yes and no , cheaper in the long run , but still expensive upfront .
You also didnt even need to pick a 360 and cheaply use an rather large extra fee for the online . At least for the purpose of the comparison , not when there are consoles without such fee .

And it's dishonest to pretend the regular joe doesnt have a tv and would buy a monitor for the console .

You randomly add a cost for console accessories , without detailling what it even is .

Last i checked all you need as a start is the pad .

That's already 600£ added to the console cost that feels arbitrary and with little basis

decrypt4820d ago (Edited 4820d ago )

You could make a 500usd PC upfront that will run circles around a console. Hence the difference really isnt a mountain to begin with.

If you already have a PC, which is even 4-5years old dual core all it needs is a GPU to outperform consoles. Most people already have PCs at home. Getting a GPU is much cheaper than getting a console. Usually a GPU that significantly outperforms current consoles wont cost more than 70-100usd.

Also imagine 2 situations. A PC gamer upgrading his PC after 4-5 years, A console gamer getting a next gen console:

PC gamer gets a new rig, gets to keep all his old games, which is a saving worth thousands of USD.

Console gamer gets a new console, cant play his old games. There goes the console being cheaper upfront arguement.

I am sure any real gamer would have purchased thousands of usd worth of games so far this gen. Not to mention all the stuff bought on XBL or PSN, no gaurantees that will work either with the next box.

I think console gamers under estimate how much cheaper PC versions of games are upfront. If you buy games from sites that sell CD keys, at launch day it self, games that sell for 60usd on PC are available for as little as 35usd from such sites, while the console counterparts still sell for 60usd. Add in the constant Steam and D2D discounts and it makes console gaming look like a rip off.

PixL4820d ago (Edited 4820d ago )

Can you give me an example of that 70-100 USD GPU you're taking about? Maybe I can go out tomorrow and buy it so that BF3 in 1080p high detail on my PC becomes a reality... Last time I checked that kind of GPU was about the same price as of a console.

Also, don't you know that sites which sell keys to games are illegal? Their keys come from stolen credit cards.

I can get a half-year old console game for about the same price as it's PC version on Steam, or even cheaper. The difference is - I can play and then sell it back. I can't sell anything bought on Steam.

Baka-akaB4820d ago (Edited 4820d ago )

"A PC gamer upgrading his PC after 4-5 years, A console gamer getting a next gen console"

None of wich is an upfront and immediate cost .

No need to repeat me that pc games and upgrades are cheaper , it's sometimes i already agree upon , hence the cheaper in the long run part .

I dont see how you wanna prance around about a rather simple fact imo... consoles machines are cheaper as an initial cost .

i'm not arguing here wich is more powerful , who runs around who , or if it aint outright better . That much is obvious

T9004820d ago

@Pixl

I think you need to research a bit check out this GPU, its a 6770, it will run BF3 at much better settings than a console can and yes it will do 1080p maybe not in high, but sure it will do high and medium mix:

http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

This baby costs only 89usd, it is atleast 3 times more powerful than any console out today.

Any other game aside BF3 will be running on maximum graphics, aside DX 11 features of course which tend to be a resource hog and dont really bring much to the table in terms of graphics.

3GenGames4820d ago

I don't see the factor of parts needed from upgrade from a PC made to run (Year) to (Year+4) games, as that'll be a few more hundred.

T9004820d ago

You really dont need to be upgrading year to year, unless you have money to burn.

While i do have a monster rig, i also have a 2 year old laptop with the following spec:

Dual core cpu 2.4ghz
HD 5870M
4 gigs ram

Those specs in desktop terms would be equal to a 5 year old high end PC. This laptop runs most games at 1080p, something which is not possible on console, since consoles run 95% of their games at 720p or below.

Since its a laptop there havent been any upgrades to it either. Hence that proves upgrades arent really needed, its a choice yes, not a requirement.

OpenGL4820d ago

Is that an MSI laptop? I don't really remember other manufacturers offering the Mobility Radeon 5870 with the Core i5 450M.

Somebody4820d ago

I've always wondered where this constant PC upgrade perception comes from. My first gaming PC was just a Pentium 3 666mhz and a Geforce 3. It wasn't until Pentium 4E rolled out that I started to upgrade again. During that time I've always hear people doing upgrades every 6-12 months while my PC stayed the same but still great at playing games. With current hardware it's even more ridiculous for us to think someone, an average gamer, out there would be upgrading every year (unless if he has tons of money to burn).

T9004820d ago

@opengl

It was Sager, it was a dual core cpu with hyperthreading, so it was an I5 Cpu.

floetry1014820d ago (Edited 4820d ago )

PC gaming/building has taught me more about my love for games than anything I've discovered through console gaming. Which isn't to say console gaming is bad by any means, but I take pride in knowing that I can upgrade my PC incrementally and tweak settings at will. It's just fun, even when you aren't playing the games themselves.

Of course, there's also Steam.

I bought Sniper Elite yesterday for $2.50. Not because I'm dying to play V2 or even because I was particularly interested in the series, but because it was 2 goddamn 50.

Mikhail4820d ago

Console and PC sot are dependent on a person. For consoles, don't factor in the TV cost because its normal to have a TV. For a PC, not all families have desktop nowadays as many have become accustomed to laptops and sometimes MACs. However, if you have a desktop PC already for home/work use, the cost of a gaming PC will significantly lower.

I had probably spent around $2500 for a PC+PS3+360 and some peripherals gaming setup.

GamingPerson4820d ago (Edited 4820d ago )

Didn't this just come out a month ago?
http://www.amazon.com/2K-Ga...
and seeing how windows 8 is basically a light version of windows 7. Backward compatibility ups the value imo.
Since the games are already in HD no HD remakes.
Not to mention a Crap load of great looking free 2 plays like this coming!
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
I will probably spend $10 - $30 on in game items over a few months.

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89 million Steam account details allegedly leaked, but no one seems to know how

A LinkedIn post from Underdark AI made the discovery, stating that datasets are being sold for over $5,000 on a known black market forum.

Cockney43d ago

Biggest hack in gaming history if true

Christopher43d ago

No personal details, mostly account names, no passwords. Likely would need other account leaks to hope that someone reuses a password with a similar account name on another already leaked service. While a lot of users, the data is useless. Kind of notably by the $5k request for the data.

FinalFantasyFanatic41d ago

Plus, if you have 2FA enabled, then you were at zero risk anyway, from what I've read, Steam isn't even recommending password changes as it's apparently unnecessary.

VariantAEC37d ago

@Christopher
Where are you getting that from?
The linked article above says, "The seller claims this is a “fresh” leak and says it includes usernames, passwords, two-factor SMS logs, message contents, metadata, delivery status, and other sensitive details." Which sure sounds like they might have a lot of other information. If this leak is legitimate I better stop hearing people falsely say PSN is the worst secured digital storefront (even though that hasn't been true for a very long time with far larger data breaches since 2011 all over the world including the Equifax breach which was several times larger).

VariantAEC37d ago

@FinalFantasyFanatic
That seems true only if you use Steam Guard. If you opted for T2A via SMS the article suggests it's time to make the switch to Steam Guard and of course change your password.

Christopher37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

From the credit URL: https://x.com/MellowOnline1...

The article doesn't do a good job of going into the updated detail, they just mention part of it.

Just because the seller claims something, doesn't make it true. If it truly contained that data, it would be worth way more than just $5k. SMS systems don't rely on getting passwords for accounts they're sending an SMS to, just the username, phone number, and timestamp info.

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Profchaos42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

You don't remember the psn hack I take it

Cockney41d ago

I do remember it being 77 million, thats why I made my comment

BlueDaBaDee42d ago

Update:
"Valve has now confirmed that “this was NOT a breach of Steam systems” and users do not need to change their passwords as a result. However, it continues to recommend that you set up the Steam Mobile authenticator for extra security."

https://store.steampowered....

Fishy Fingers42d ago

Shame. I liked the idea someone paid 5 grand just for my silly steam name.

DivineHand12542d ago

The government needs a taskforce with serious fundung that can opporate across borders to go after cyber criminals.

It is getting out of hand and it is the regular citizens of the world that suffer the consequences of these hacks and breaches.

My fear is that if left unchecked, state sponsored hackers from corrupt or governents under sections may use this as a method of raising revenue at the expense of everyone else.

Fishy Fingers42d ago

Bro teeing up a Mission Impossible movie.

ZeekQuattro42d ago

Not in this administration. If anything hes been dissolving existing task forces meant to protect consumers.

Amplitude42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

Why? They’d just use the funding to funnel hundred of millions of dollars into fake NGOs that then funnel it into democrat pockets while doing zero cyber criminal defence work.

Then if anybody tried to defund them it’d be a whole thing with the mainstream media claiming that there will be endless cyber attacks. NGOs would then fund protest groups to attack anybody that supports defunding the government’s cyber attack defence branch and then it would turn out it was also being used to stabilize or destabilize governments in other countries and overthrow elections to benefit America. Which is fine until they start using it on us again.

Let’s just not. Private companies who know what they’re doing (Valve) can deal with it

RIP USAID. God bless

Profchaos42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

It's not a may use this not we know state sponsored attacks do this already.

It's a global problem you couldn't have one government playing world police it would require joint collaboration with foreign governments and the problem is many laws have not kept pace with advancement of technology.

even then it's hard to say with certainty if an attack was a state sponsored attacks or a cybercriminal group operating outside of governments

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pwnmaster300042d ago

remember when certain groups were saying PC gamers don’t want other subscriptions because it was not safe and steam was the spot lol.

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badz14942d ago

it's time to riot, right, pc gamers??

pwnmaster300042d ago

Be careful, PC gamers are the most touchy out of the gamers lol

staticall42d ago

@badz149
@pwnmaster3000
Have you guys actually read what was «leaked»? It was SMS messages from 3rd party provider (not from Steam itself) with one-time 2FA codes (that are active for 15 minutes). No Steam account details, access to an account or any of that jazz.

Let me quote official Steam response:
«The leak consisted of older text messages that included one-time codes that were only valid for 15-minute time frames and the phone numbers they were sent to. The leaked data did not associate the phone numbers with a Steam account, password information, payment information or other personal data. Old text messages cannot be used to breach the security of your Steam account, and whenever a code is used to change your Steam email or password using SMS, you will receive a confirmation via email and/or Steam secure messages.»
Source: https://store.steampowered....

The only bad thing about this is the phone numbers. But while that sucks, attacker doesn't know which Steam account this phone number belongs to. IMO, the only thing people should be rioting about is how unprotected the SMS are and the 3rd party service that was used by Steam. I'm all for punishing people who screwed up and/or lacked the security. But this is not it.

FinalFantasyFanatic41d ago

Why riot? They have nothing of value, can't even steal an account with the details they have, they would have to attempt a brute force attack, you can already do that with a Steam user's account name (or any account on any site) if you really wanted to spend the time and processing power to do it.

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