Some opinions from around the industry regarding the enigma that is mobile gaming.
Are the issues exaggerated, or is the game finished?
Last week they said it had 30 million pre registrations
Now it's suddenly a flop? I'm thinking it was a slow news day the day they wrote this
That is the GACHA cycle. Pretty much every single one gets tons of pre-registrations because of the bonuses you get when you sign up. Then Gacha players will play it for a week or two to see if it's for them. Definitely not a flop for now, but not out of the woods either. Most gachas don't survive for more than a year. And WW has way higher production values than your average GACHA, so it's even more riskier.
Now, for the game itself: I played it for a bit, and it is a game that will definitely please those who complained about GI combat. But for everyone else, it's sort of "meh," particularly due to the lack of charisma in everything.
It's not like it's super realistic graphics. They did overhaul it but I doubt top tier cel shading costs as much as bleeding edge tech for realistic graphics. My only gripe is they kept the Chinese names for things and it makes it harder to remember for english speakers.
the game is definitely out of the woods, you have no idea how attached 15 yo's get to these higher quality gacha games. You talk about the gacha cycle, but part of the cycle if promoting the game to infinity and making your money back in the first month, that's also part of the cycle sadly.
The game made an estimated 26 million in May before it's official release and that number hasn't been updated for June so it's actually way higher.
I'm not sure what is going on with this site and trying to talk down this game but it's obviously hugely sucessful.
Is it just because it's going to be on PlayStation? It's the same sites that are talking up xbox and and talking down PlayStation that are talking this game down.
No lol majority of this game sales is going to come from mobile n pc, like genshin impact.
This game had so much hype going on it crazy, the Geshin Impact killer smh it numbers not all that impressive compare to geshin.
Aint got shet to do with playstation 🤔 plus it launch was terrible fill with issues that Kuro still working on at this moment.
What are you talking about? It doesn't need to beat Genshin to be sucessful.
The game has been hugely popular, the sales ranking hasn't even been posted for the full release of the game, yet it's final beta did over 26m in sales.
The game has been a huge sucess for Kuro Games.
It did insanely well on Playstation
https://www.resetera.com/th...
https://www.ign.com/article...
Definitely idiots massive downplay o games succeeding on Playstation. Just look at the regulars here trying to downplay this. When Xbox themselves regret turning down Genshin
Not like these games would succeed on Xbox anyways. You actually need paying customers
This is the closing statement.
"From what I can see, despite the initial hiccups, Wuwa is off to a great start. I can’t wait to explore more of the world, and see what the amazing community comes up with!"
Everything that I have seen about the game indicates that not only was the game successful it has way exceeded anyone's expectations.
It's just a stupid click bait title... and I don't get it, if you like the game and think that it's going to do well, why would you use a title that is likely to do more damage than good?
This is the worst type of "journalism" you are damaging someone else's thing just for personal gain through clicks... So congrats on your pennies... which likely caused the thing you like to make less money...
Hard to judge honestly. The game's had problems since launch and, being a sort of clone of one of Hoyoverse's biggest games already paints a target on it for negativity. Combine that with ZZZ coming out in a couple weeks and there's potential for a flop but I don't think it's even close to the end of the road yet for WW.
One Fortnite player lucked into getting many exclusive offers in the Item Shop, which left them in disbelief.
Eurogamer: "Xbox's Matt Booty has spoken more on the closure of Tango Gameworks earlier this year."
I call BS on this. All metrics were met apparently or was that another lie. There's something deeper happening within xbox's management
He is referring to this tweet by Greenberg which Spencer retweeted.
https://twitter.com/aarongr...
Wood is arguing that MS was either lying then when they claimed the game was a success or they are lying now by giving excuses for shutting down the studio.
What part irks you sir? My opinion that xbox has a management problem or stating xbox heads said metrics were met and the game was a success. They closed the studio that released one of xbox's most successful new ips in a very long time. There's a lie somewhere don't you think or are you the eyes wide shut type
I think we all have an inside scoop at this point. MS has lied so often that we all know what to expect from them.
I don't know that he's lying. The heads at Xbox tend to be forthcoming in painfully indirect ways.
The article notes the exit of Shinji Mikami which I also believe was a factor, but Arkane is a different situation.
Perhaps the issue with everyone's assessment is that, because they closed around the same time, everyone assumes the reasons are the same.
Occam's razor here: Tango lost its value to Microsoft with Mikami out and Arkane just dropped the ball spectacularly.
All being said, Booty is clearly lying about one thing: the notion that anything mentioned in this interview was done "out of respect for the staff" is a bold faced lie. They closed the studio while the staff were on vacation in Japan.
Miss me with that, Booty.
You said "I don't know that he's lying."
And later you said:
"All being said, Booty is clearly lying "
Are you ok?
Spare me the pedantry.
I'm very clearly talking about two different things:
When it comes to telling you about the future or actions taken broadly, they're indirect, but technically not lies. The go-to example is Rise of the Tomb Raider "coming exclusively to Xbox One in 2014." That wasn't a lie, but if you don't read between the lines, you'll think that's a lie. More recently, they tout new Xbox "hardware" which is incredibly ambiguous. It's sketchy, and intentionally vague, but calling it a lie is a bit too heavy handed. In reality, they say things in a way to get you to draw incorrect conclusions and they can blame you for misinterpreting.
I'm saying I don't know how much of what Booty is saying is truthful, intentionally vague, etc.
But on the very specific issue I cite (i.e., wanting to be respectful of staff), he's being dishonest—and it is very clearly a footnote to the broader point being made.
I shouldn't have to explain that in such explicit detail, but clear enough?
‘Best lineup in Xbox history’ advertised during holiday season -cancels Scalebound and Fable after holiday season.
Not a lie. They had a good lineup. They just flipped the scripped after holiday season sales. What they advertised isn’t what the customer receives. Bait and switch
I recall seeing interviews where Shinji Mikami said he had no involvement in the development of HiFi Rush, it was a European guy who directed the game I believe.
So even if its true that Shinji leaving was a loss, closing the studio still doesn't pass the sniff test to me. They shut a great studio who had just put out Xbox' best game in years which had no input from Mikami.
MS can't help but lie, they always have, scummy company.
The gaming media better get on board with these sort of articles as MS buying up the industry means you guys won't get review copies or exclusive news unless you push the MS narrative.
The MS narrative "it's everyone else's fault."
WARNING ⚠️ SARCASM AHEAD WARNING ⚠️ sure they have an awful management with sexual harassment and embezzlement of funds so let’s close the studio we just purchased and leave games in the table. END OF SARCASM
( insert here a comic strip of guy thrown out of window for suggesting firing the management )
Although t he controls can still use improvements, I thought ME Infiltrator for the iPad has been exceptional. I enjoy the connectivity with ME3 and the ability to max out your character using credits earned or bought.
Hell No!
Nate Ahearn, is a moron..........the 3ds is ignored which is typical
Mobile gaming has always been a staple of the gaming industry. Of course, I'm talking about Nintendo gaming devices.
It's huge so yes it should be taken seriously.