Rumors Suggest the Next Xbox and Playstation Consoles Are All About Controlling Consumers - Forbes

Forbes: "Internet connections, digital rights management and used games restrictions all point to a common theme — when the next consoles drop, both Sony and Microsoft want to be able to keep their consumers under control..."

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SilentNegotiator2403d ago (Edited 2403d ago )

Is that like the oppressive majority?

Optical_Matrix2403d ago

As if the rampant DRM and Online Pass trend thats creeping onto console over the past year or so hasn't been evidence enough. But what can you do eh? I don't pirate games or buy games pre-owned and if I do buy pre-owned games, they're single player so not that much of a problem for me.

Philoctetes2403d ago (Edited 2403d ago )

Online passes and stuff like that are fine with me as long as it comes free when you buy a new game. I have absolutely no problem with firms wanting to discourage used games. That's fair.

DRM is a different issue though. When I buy a game, I expect to be able to play it, even if my internet happens to go out (SP of course). I will be seriously pissed if the rumors about always-on internet are true. If I'm going to have to deal with DRM, I might as well skip the next console generation and build a gaming rig instead.

SilentNegotiator2403d ago (Edited 2403d ago )

New buyers like us should be the MOST OFFENDED by online passes!

We pay $60, get restricted as to how we can play online (be it by account, # of systems, etc), and ultimately get a game with half the value of games when we could resell them.

If they make games cheaper ($40, perhaps), then maybe I'll accept it, but until then, no way!

Hisiru2403d ago (Edited 2403d ago )

DRM is awful, but online pass is only a problem for pirated versions or people who pays for prewoned games (but you still can buy the online pass on PSN or Xbox live), so it's not exactly a problem, they really need this money in order to make more profit for the games or else, the preowned copies wouldn't be a new costumer and they would lose money for the preowned market.

DRM is a no go, it's an awful feature and a disrespect coming from the developers/publishers.

Online Pass comes for free with your game and if you are going to play online, what's the problem? use your online pass. A preowned game is much cheaper, so you will have $10 for the online pass. I don't see why people complain about it.

GamingPerson2403d ago (Edited 2403d ago )

I can imagine the next generation of noobs. "Xbox is so futuristic it needs to be hooked up to the internet! yeah! consoles ftw!"

lol I know people who don't even know what DRM is.
The casuals will conform to this so quick it won't even be funny.

StanSmith2403d ago

If they want to stop the used game market, then they need to either reduce the price of games or they need to offer something like a 24 hour returns policy, where if you don't like the game, you can return it.

Will they do that though? Will they hell. This is all greed. They're making profits now on games. They just want more profit.

I mean, if money is so tight, why are PC gamers paying less than console gamers for better looking games? It's all a load of crap.

Hisiru2403d ago (Edited 2403d ago )

Reduce the prices? some games are like $30 in your country.

Do you know the price here in Brazil? I paid R$160,00 for Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 on the PS3 and I wanted to buy it for my vita but the price for this version is R$130,00. Brazilians should complain about the price, not you. Even 50,00 (for a launch game) is cheap if you look at the situation in the other countries.

There is no problem with the price, it's not easy and cheap to develop an HD game.

" or they need to offer something like a 24 hour returns policy"

Some games can be completed in 9 hours (but they do have online and other replay values, just look at Uncharted 2). People would finish the game in 9 hours or less and return it in 24 hours if they doesn't want to play online, so it's not fair!

PC gamers are paying less because it's much harder to sell a PC retail game and the digital version is cheaper thanks to the digital distribution.

Yes, they need to find another way to stop the used game market, but online pass isn't hurting anyone except pirated copies. If you buy a preowned game you still can buy the online pass.

adamant7152403d ago

Online Passes are essentially DRM..

And im sorry, but i think it's ridiculous to require an Online Pass to play online. It's all nice and dandy when you have $60 to spend on a video-game but thats not the case for everybody.

StanSmith2403d ago (Edited 2403d ago )

I live in the UK. We pay alot more than $30 per game. Granted, we get price cuts alot sooner than most, but thats down to our good old British stubbornness.

We can't compare game prices anyway. You have to go on the economics of each country. We pay more than the Americans, for example, but then we are taxed to hell. They have their reasons for price differences in each country.

Videogame prices are too high. A tiering model should have been adopted long ago. For example, while a game like Uncharted is worth £40, something like Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City is not.

Granted, my 24 hour idea is probably a little extreme. I have no problem with Online Passes. I generally buy new. When i'm not allowed to trade in something that i purchased, is when they annoy me. It's bad enough having content locked away from me on the disc.

On the otherhand though, why do we need the online pass system? Afterall, if i trade a game in, i'm not on their servers anymore. Therefore, the person who buys it used is in my place on the servers which i already paid for.

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XboxInnovation2403d ago

Corporate greed is your downfall.

StanSmith2403d ago

"Internet connections, digital rights management and used games restrictions"

Bye Bye Sony! Bye Bye Microsoft! If these rumours become a reality, then there is no way i will be upgrading to PS4/720 from my PS3/360. If Nintendo screw up the WiiU, then it looks like i will skip the next gen out.

GamingPerson2403d ago (Edited 2403d ago )

or I think is actually better than a used gamestop game. But of course you can't sell it back.

StanSmith2403d ago

I don't mind about not being able to sell it back when it's that cheap. I'll have to look more into PC gaming if the console manufacturers screw us over.

Do most games support the 360 pad?

PersonaCat2403d ago

Just get xpadder on your pc and you can use any controller you want for games. I've been getting into pc gaming alot recently, and I'm pretty sure that if all this is true you can count me in for the PC crew.

Somebody2403d ago


An overwhelming majority of PC games/versions support any existing game pads. Except for strategy games but you'll be fine with the multplatform titles. Even The Witcher 2 has 360 pad support long before a 360 version was announced.

Tai_Kaliso2403d ago

Corporations like money, they wont leave it on the table and force these "rumors" on us. I'm not saying there wont be online passes and even some things like how Batman Arkham City was set up, but I don't think they will force a constant internet connection or ban used games.

Sony doesn't know what Microsoft has planned and vice versa, so if Microsoft didn't cut out used games and Sony did, it would be a huge advantage for Microsoft. I've also not heard a single rumor regarding the Wii U and used games. No way does one company ban used games and risk losing market share.

I will say that companies are in a habit of telling us what we want more than actually listening though. Its not a new thing however, I remember back with the Gamecube Nintendo said "People don't want to play games online". I remember thinking that one day they would have to actually listen to their consumer base and implement an online that works.

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