Thousands sign anti-GFWL Dark Souls PC petition

Eurogamer:

Thousands have signed an anti-Games for Windows Live Dark Souls PC petition.
The PC version, due out on 24th August, was announced to support GFWL last night at a Namco Bandai press event in Las Vegas, and it didn't take long for gamers to express their concern about the controversial digital platform.

[NYC_Gamer]

They should have used Steamworks in the first place.....GFWL is buggy plus its not available in every country.....

[Saladfax]

It's very odd. In reading a lot of other chatter, I've heard quite a few people disliking Steamworks. Maybe it was just a vocal minority, but...

I dunno. I've never *ever* encountered a problem when using Steam, offline, online, or whatever else.

[Hellsvacancy]

Im sorry, but us console gamers had no choice but to use the crappy online service that was given to us in Dark Souls, why should it be any different for PC gamers?

Its not as if your NOT gettin Dark Souls, you made a petition askin for it

*WE WANT DARK SOULS ON PC* so you get it, but then its *WE WANT STEAM NOT GFWL*

What a big bunch of cry babies

I much preferred the online for Demons Souls, god knows why they changed it for Dark Souls, maybe i should of started a petition way back then askin them to change it back

[Daggerjack]

I feel bad for the developers. most of the people who wanted this game on PC are gonna pirate the shit out of it!

[h311rais3r]

Don't make assumptions about the pc crowd. RPGs always outsell their console counter parts.

[OhReginald]

I think daggerjack is talking about that steam fanboys will pirate dark souls because its a GFWL digital game and not a steamworks digital game.

[Daggerjack]

That's why i said "most". I have a Gaming PC aswell. i know it's gonna happen. shit, most of the forums i go to are already talking about pirating it!

[NYC_Gamer]

@ OhReginald

I'm one of the huge Steam fans but will still buy the game regardless....won't have to deal with GFWL since i'm sticking with the sp mode..kinda of sucks since never got to do co-op since my xbl is free but GFWL isn't safe for save files and etc.

[Captain Qwark 9]

that couldnt be farther from the truth, just a few that come to mind.....

dragon age series
mass effect series
skyrim
fable

all sold better on xbox than pc....

if anything they sell better on xbox than pc unless its a completely unknown rpg or something a little more under the radar like the witcher 2 which will likely have more sales on pc

[OhReginald]

I dont think a petition can change this. At this point its already a done deal.

[keabrown79]

I actually want GFWL as it allows achievement points!

[aquamala]

good thing I don't have to play this on a console! you know it will have higher resolution, better frame rate, better textures, game starts and loads faster. can't wait for the best version of the game.

edit: I did have Dark Souls on PS3, but traded it in once I heard about it will be on PC!

[Mythicninja]

Disagree = console fanboy

[neogeo]

But da power of da cell!!

It's 150 years ahead of any gaming pc. Sony said we will get 120fps in 1080p..I'm just waiting for the true power.........still waiting...

[GamingTruth]

im not the games still look like cg to me

i know you love your fellow pc brothers agrees with you

oh yeah and your also still waiting to play even haze from 2007 on pc arent you and any other ps3 exclusive cause pc cant play them pc cant handle the games

[aquamala]

^^^ someone that still think PS3 is a powerful machine! I have a PS3 too but to me it's a budget gaming platform.

lmao power of the cell! and the enormous, umm, 256MB of video ram!

[GamingTruth]

you really think the rsx matters, man your in a lost world

[sedx]

these guy's are still crying?...be glad its coming to pc anyways.

[Mythicninja]

Sign it! Sign it!

Already there are people calling us "entitled, whiny, etc..." Because we voice our concern. It's like there are people who hate the idea that gamers can have a unified voice and make changes that benefit them.

I'm a complainer, and a consumer, and darn proud of it. And frankly, removing GFWL well benefit from software if so many people have issue with it.

[neogeo]

Ok maybe I'm out of the loop here, but why is this bad?

[SuperStrokey1123]

People would just perfer steam is all, myself included. I wont be buying it till a steam version appears as I already played it on PS3.

[icewater85]

It's not bad that people want it on steam, it's the point they made a petition about it.

[OhReginald]

A small amount of people wont buy the game unless it comes out for steam. So basically they are bitching, whining, and creating petitions for it to be on steam and not Games for windows live.

Thats about it.

[Mythicninja]

Also GFWL is a garbage solution that is buggy as hell. -my experience, and a lot of others.

If they're doing this for DRM, why bother? GFWL never stopped anyone from pirating

[anonym]

It's not about getting Steamworks, it's about getting rid of GFWL. It just suggests Steamworks because it's a given that Namco will want to use some kind of DRM/multiplayer framework, so they might as well use the most accepted one.

[admiralthrawn87]

who gives a shit how you play it. gamers are getting out of hand nowadays with their ridiculous "demands"

play the fucking game and stfu. so you have to take an extra minute to sign in or sign up for GFWL. who cares

for all you know, it might not have come out without some sort of windows for live deal. way to spit in their face for at least porting it to pc and adding NEW CONTENT.

[icewater85]

100% agree, the game is coming to PC buy it or stfu about it. Seems like somebody is always making a petition about something. If you don't like it don't buy it simple as that.

[anonym]

If GFWL worked well enough for it to be that easy, no one would have a problem with its inclusion.

[SuperStrokey1123]

Yeah, gamers should voice their opinion on what they want and how they want to play it. They should just be happy with what ever gets shoved down their throats!

[pandehz]

Oh the whining

Whats with gamers these days?

They petition crap and some unknown website will support it and make posts just to get some pop.

[zavierkai]

Don't be cry baby your get a dlc hopefully for $10.00.Fan boys are so stupid.

[PirateThom]

Oh no, [Mass Effect 3/Dark Souls] isn't on Steam, it's using a rival service and I hate [Origin/Games for Windows], I won't buy it unless they put it on my service of choice.

Awesome, that will show Namco Bandai how bringing games to PC is a worthwhile use of time and resources.

Really, how is this any different than console fanboyism? Irrational devotion/hate of a service rather than a console?

[gamer7804]

fantastic point. I for one like the GFWL service.

[DigitalAnalog]

I don't think it's the same exact reason as you pointed it out above. I remember when installing GFWL for the very first time and I absolutely loathe it. Here is my experience:

First off, it is a mandatory requirement to save on a game such as Batman: AA. Now I wouldn't mind such a minor inconvenience due to the fact it has a built in LIVE installer, however it seems that was too much for MS as it constantly requires me to update said installer to the latest version before rebooting. To my rude surprise the "update" prompt constantly pops up indicating it "hasn't been done".

This happened for the next 6 or 7 installs until I managed to get search on Google HOW TO UPDATE this obtrusive service before I can even start to play the game. Turns out I need to re-download the actual LIVE client and update it from there before it registers. By then the client FINALLY registers the update and then proceeds to load my new profile to start the game....

"Can't connect to Live. Error code: XXXXX"

oh fuck me, what is this? After a few reboots, LIVE finally accepts my user profile before I proceed to play the game.

Oh, and don't get me started with downloading their DLC, that's a whole matter entirely. Nevermind in the later future my Batman saves got corrupted midway, it's a miracle I have enough masochism to start over to finish the damn game.

Not saying that everyone has this issue, but this is one of the many many problems GFWL faces, heck this is exactly what the petititon is trying to point out, playing DS on a system like this would only hinder the game instead of enhancing the experience.