EA Have Destroyed Battlefield 3 On The 360

Outraged at the impact server rental has had on Battlefield 3′s Xbox Live multiplayer, Dave ‘Mack’ McConkey argues that corporate greed and ‘player power’ have brought a once-great gaming experience to its knees.

[Antholex]

I don't understand why people keep saying they can't find the official DICE servers. If you go to Search and type in "DICE", all the official servers come up in a big list. Whilst this probably isn't the best way of finding them, it works and from my experience there are plenty of servers there all with descriptions of what they offer.

[Emilio_Estevez]

Played last night on official servers, didn't even have to search. People just always have something to complain about. I played some custom servers too and had no issues.

[da_2pacalypse]

I don't have a problem with the rent-a-server. However the console version of BF3 is just not as good as previous battlefield games. 24 people is just way too few for some of the maps that they have included in the game. I feel that the maps were not properly scaled on the console version.

for example, Operation firestorm is just too big of a map, specially on conquest. As much as I love the innovation in BF3 and think that the game is awesome, I feel that BF BC2 had much better maps :/ Anybody else feel the same?

[CarlitoBrigante]

Stop complaining da2pacalypse, its been months since BF3 was released on consoles. Adjust or GTFO. No ones having issues at all with only 24players on Operation Firestorm, not after this many months, I played so many matches on that map yet you dont see me complaining.

You sound like a CoD player: "mapz are tooo bigz cry cry cry"

[morganfell]

I read this article and quite frankly I am disgusted.

You have journalists (okay, that is a joke in and of itself because there are actually less than a handful of writers in gaming today that actually merit use of the word), but you have so called journalists complaining about the fanbase Mass Effect 3 backlash and in the very next breath write a teenage angst filled, fanboy "I just got pwned in BF3" rage driven attack piece.

Hypocrite much?

I think I understand. Only so called journalists have the right to a public opinion. And when did FMV become a bastion of gaming insight?

[shodan74]

@morganfell

I'm really not sure what you're talking about. The author, Dave McConkey, never complained about the Mass Effect 3 fan backlash. In fact, he was incredibly vocal about how let down he was by ME3's ending himself, and even wrote this:
http://www.fmvmagazine.com/...

Cannot for the life of me see why you're so "disgusted".

[NCAzrael]

@shodan74

So instead of the author being a hypocrite, he's actually just a chronic crybaby?

I for one am disgusted by complete lack of sense this article makes. "Boo hoo, I don't like rented servers because I can't find a decent one." So you're going to honestly tell me that an official server isn't full of fucking morons?

I will grant you that I have only seen the console server browser in a youtube video taken at the time of the game's release, but it looks pretty close to the web based server browser for PC. On the downside there is nothing that shows the starting ticket level, so unless it is in the server name, you have to hope it isn't a huge number (unless you actually enjoy drawn out battles, in which case hopefully it is). Maybe that's something you should request on the forums, especially now that there are custom servers on consoles.

[M_Prime]

i tried to read the article but it was basically a guy whining about NOTHING..

one thing i loved about BF2 on PC was the custom servers because you could spend an hour on one map and it would be fun... and teams can come back, it has been done before. 200 tickets just isn't enough sometimes, and everyone love their fave maps. If i want to play OPERATION FIRESTORM for an hour, then so be it, if you don't like it, don't join. I just hope that if you quit out early (i mean sometimes you don't have time to finish a match) the stats are recorded.. I know as it stands now, when you quit you loose everything you gained (unlocked) and the next match you can get them again. if i am quitting wrong please PM me how to do it right.

[venom06]

you have to remember that A BUNCH of these writers are CoD fangirls that try to bash the best FPS out today (BF3),in every chance, since tens of thousand want #MW3BLACKOUT to go forward.... this is one of the most useless articles ever on N4G.... so because EA lets it customers do what they want, and STILL provide regular DICE servers, this is a problem??? seriously???

[Heartnet]

Yet u are one of these BF3 fanboys so what difference does it make? (btw fangirls are better than fanboys just letting y aknow)

and tbh he has fair points.. if u can quick match into a server with specific rules that you do not wish to play and yet dont want to take up 20seconds or so each game to filter everything out then thats complete BS.. shud be seperate...

[TekoIie]

If only fanboys could coexist peacefully....

[Perjoss]

my dad can beat up your dad

[Soldierone]

Didn't complain about BF3 a single time before the server issues. Not once. in fact I was a person saying how awesome the game was and for COD noobs to STfu and go away. however I hate the rent a server thing. Anyone with metro as their leading map by far is an auto noob to me. I'm tired of quick match being useless, I'm tired of getting kicked for owning the admin....I have hardly touched the game at all since the patch, went back to Bad Company 2 and have been having way more fun.

I don't agree with every point in this article, but i do agree with most of it.

[Dazel]

This doesn't work, all the idiots now paying to play online are naming their servers DICE. Just check before you join, you can see their gamertag by pressing Y.

[RememberThe357]

The EA servers are harder to find now. I don't want to play on other peoples serves so I have to go looking for EA servers, and thats kind of lame. A filter setting for only EA servers would solve the issue though.

Some of these admins are f*ckin cheaters and some of the servers are set up horribly. So not only are the guns [nearly] all different and some of the maps are too big for 24 players, but now we have servers with game that go on FOREVER, and admits that cheat.

I just want to play, I don't want to have to mess around with what server I'm in.

[ChrisW]

As with all BF games, the PC already has such servers. And the ones that have decent, well-rounded rules are a blast to play! If you run into a server that has odd rules that you don't like, drop out and find another one.

Not a good rant on the author's part... but other than that, the article was at least entertaining and well written.

[BALLARD32]

It's already hard enough to get into games with friends, let alone the same squad. Now with this server update, it's nearly impossible to get on a DICE server. So with all these 24/7 maps, ridiculous amounts of tickets, and completely immature server messages at the beginning of the game, I can trade this game in with no regrets.

[Dazel]

This has to be the biggest screw up by a game Dev or their greedy publisher. Even Activision didn't go as far as to get gamers to pay again to play online.

BF3 has now been totally ruined in the name of greed.

[Hufandpuf]

Wtf are you talking about?

[Dazel]

I'm talking about all the idiots now paying for the very same servers that were free last week! Then adding stupid rules/names and totally ruining my favorite shooter.

I paid my cash to play BF3 but it's now impossible.

[ziggurcat]

1. it's an option to pay for your own server, and you don't have to pay to join any of those servers, either.

2. if activision had its way, they'd charge people to play CoD online - kotick is on record for wanting to implement pay-to-play CoD.

3. u mad?

[trenso1]

yea but they get gamers to pay $50 for a service that is offered by other companies for free. Plus its their money if they want to pay extra to play the game with their rules let them. its not like youre the one paying for it. i just dont think ill be joining a custom sever again after being kicked for the fact that i was trying win and was top on my team.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Oh... I wasn't aware there was a company out there offering up new maps every month for free? COD Elite is more than just the stat tracking my friend, you get all the new maps released on a monthly schedule. And all the new maps are free to Elite members as part of their $50.

[TekoIie]

Would rather pay for ELITE than pay for a server that other games tend to offer for free...

[DarthJay]

@Dlacy13g - haha, for real? $50 is prepaying for your maps along with the stat tracking Battlefield gives for free. You get maps on a monthly schedule that will equate to the same amount you would have received in the normal map packs. I would hardly call that a deal.

@Pekolie what game lets you have a private server in which you can alter the rules in a public match the way you can with the Battlefield servers? I do agree that BFBC2 had private servers but like COD, nothing that happened in those private matches counted and they were really just for MLG/GB matches.

[limewax]

How are you missing the point, you gave them $50. If I paid $50 on top of the game I wouldn't want DLC, I would expect the next damn game to be free. Elite is a rip off and if you can't see it your blind

[3GenGames]

As a player of BF since 1942, you'd have to be an idiot to say that they didn't ruin it because of the want for money. I don't find the online very enjoyable, too much recoil on ALL guns, too hard to kill people but somehow they kill you in about 4 shots, etc. We were also promised private matches and that's all I as waiting for honestly, only thing that could save me from selling my copy. Well, we got them, and they're not free. That's just complete bullshit, I've already sunk $60 into the game, BE HAPPY I GAVE YOU THAT FU***** MONEY EA. You greedy bastards needs to get the F*** away from DICE because your evil is making them produce half finished games, and it's just bulls***. That is all.

[colugothelegend]

you arent a real bf player

to hard to kill?

hahahaaha you just suck

bf3 is awesome

[3GenGames]

How many veteran tags do you have to state your opinion ovr mine? You think I'm joking? No, this game plays like a COD clone and it's a bastard child of the entire series. Those are pretty much facts only somebody just jumping on the Bad Comapny/BF3 fanboat will denounce.

http://battlelog.battlefiel...

It was hard to kill in most other BF games like 1943, 1942, BF2, etc. But it was balanced, BF3 is NOT.

[Drabent]

I thought it was just me!!! There is way to much recoil hell I can't use but 3 carbines if I really want to kill....btw nothing fixed the input lag for me.......

[Fylus]

3GEN, I kinda get the feeling that your just trying to troll. Now don't get me wrong, I trust that your experience with the game is very real, but for most other people, it isn't that way. Like, I personally don't feel like the guns have too much recoil at all. There are 2 factors that you must compensate for when shooting. Vertical/Horizontal climb, and controllability (How much kick the first round fired has, plus how much kick/accuracy the gun gains or loses during sustained fire).

Knowing your gun and how to compensate for how it handles is how your going to do well.

If you were a real BF player, you'd know that. I mean 90% of the other players are obviously not having problems getting kills. So stop complaining.

[0neShot]

@Fylus, 3GenGames is a true die hard BF fanboy. Just check his comments on how hard he try bashing COD, as if he is already an EA or DICE employee.
Now, thinking that a BF fanboy is butthurt with what's happening with BF3, then I guess EA got pissed with BF3 being futile agaist COD and took advantage by doing whatever to get money and doesn't really care about the gamers.

[Mikeyy]

The added recoil ruined this game, whats wrong with the servers????

[foamychicken]

ive never been kicked from someones server because im not an ass hat. why even join a blow torch server if you think it is stupid?
Also...
EA Have Destroyed Battlefield 3 On The 360
EA Have Destroyed Battlefield 3
EA Have Destroyed
EA has destroyed battlefield 3 on the 360(which is untrue,douche bags destroy good things)

[ExCest]

Speak the truth. The battlelog forums are actually swarmed with people that are butthurt.

[Perjoss]

"forums are actually swarmed with people that are butthurt."

I have never seen this in my life, who would have thought eh? people actually complaining on an internet forum.

[Rupee]

What's up with the plethora of "butthurt" posts lately?

[trenso1]

you dont have to be an ass hat to get kicked. i was playing conquest helping my squad being the best i could be when the server leader saw they had a chance of winning since the got 2 flags after having none. he kicked me, i guess to eliminate a strong player since my team which i was kicked from lost that game. some server admins are just petty.

[goukijones]

EA "Ben Hads" Destroyed bro.

[ziggurcat]

i guess it's "take a dump on EA" week... then it'll probably be back to "rabble rabble rabble sony sucks" for the rest of the year.

/sarcasm

[Hufandpuf]

The patch is great to me. Interesting severs with cool playlists, tanks aren't indestructible machines capable of mowing down a full team when an engineer is repairing it nonstop. The recoil is fine (learn to aim). Suppression is a little too much but not that bad.

[Kyosuke_Sanada]

Exactly. The only people who are pissed about recoil are the pre-patch FAMAS users most of the time. Just use a bipod silly......

[TekoIie]

Bipod > grip. Can't remember how many incredible kills this has help me get with a Scar-H. Brilliant accessory for hold a position too or when your capturing an objective.

[Fylus]

Pssh, like those famas users are really gunna use a bipod. How are they supposed to run and gun with one of them? ;)

[AllroundGamer]

congrats, you are one of the maybe 5% of people, that likes the patch, probably didn't play BF games before right?... but if you didn't spot the broken hit detection on players and massive lags, then your opinion is rather totally irrelevant :)

[Hufandpuf]

I've played every BF game made, from PC to 1943 on XBLA even including the F2P titles too. so your point is irrelevant.

[PixL]

Putting "DICE" or "EA" in search box seems too difficult for some. How low can the gaming community go? Just whinning all the time.

I love custom servers. Increased ticket count, custom rules, rounds starting from 2 players and ability to learn flying without being bothered or lowering your stats.

Hit detection is not broken. It's increased suppression effect. I agree it's too much now but you just have to learn to cope. If you ask about my BF experience: over 1200 hours.

I don't know about lags on XBL, PSN is fine. I even played on US and Asian servers without major problems.

[AllroundGamer]

well that is really hard to believe since all the veteran BF players are boycotting DICE cause of the crappy patch...

[StoneyYoshi]

I dont see how thats hard to believe. Not every BF vet is a stupid little crybaby and can deal with change. I like the patch myself and i am a BF vet. Done believe me? Go look up StoneyYoshi on Battlelog and look at my profile and you can see i have been playing battlefield games since BF2 and i have every BF game from BF2 to now. And no there is not broken hit detection. They had increased the guns inaccuracy if you hold the trigger down. When I was in the military myself I was always told to use short controlled bursts to improve accuracy. the same idea comes into effect here and it works. Try it out sometime, and maybe you will actually enjoy the patch. and i have no lag problems either BTW.

I'll admit the only issue i have with the patch is the flares on the chopper seem to be random when they decide to actually work and stop the locked rockets.

[Fylus]

One of the 5%? I have only seen a very few amount of people complain about the patch. They make it seem like a big deal by being vocal about it, while the rest of us are playing the game without a problem.

[Rupee]

Yeah believe it or not guns recoil in real life! Lol

[Fylus]

Well F**king Said.

[iamlegend9999]

Battlefield 3 is just trash on console's. It had bad hit detection and the cut the players. But don't call me a PC fanboy because i main my console's. I play Battlefield 3 on my PC

[Lord_Sloth]

I've never had a great experience on XBL. Just get cussed at by 12 year olds who can't cuss properly.

[magus]

I think individual gamers have destroyed this game. It was fun at first then i was not having fun. I mean when your teammates wont even drop a med pack for you or throw down bullets something is wrong.

[Rupee]

Exactly! I don't see any teamwork unless I'm playing with my friends in a party...

[pwnmaster3000]

I have the ps3 version and bf3 does feel kinda wierd with the new patch.
Nothing big though.

[ginsunuva]

PC.

Nuff said

[Honky Kong]

well written.

[honkyjesus]

It is basically a console flame blog. I knew it was off when he said after Mass Effect 3 he still had faith in gaming because of Battlefield 3.

I mean, that is just picking which pop star you like better.

[colugothelegend]

DICE created the best FPS since COD 4

no killstreaks

bullet drop

unforgiving kill curve

I love it!!!!

[SecretPsycho]

the reasons i enjoy cod x3

[Drabent]

LoL~

[colugothelegend]

well you have only shown me you are no good at FPS games.
You seem to need:

auto aim , glitches/hacks, and robot helicopters getting points for you.

I dont man.

my 27-10 on BF3

trumps your 25-3 in COD which is mostly Robot-streak kills

rofl

[SecretPsycho]

I play tf2 and quake mainly...come within top 3 most the time....sooooo yea

Im just saying....running around with a knife or shotgun...then getting rewarded with a massive gunship....pretty fun shiz

[gcolley]

cant find any ea rush servers in australia now. they have screwed it for us here.

[dragonelite]

Jezus fuck people this is a step in the right direction user dedicated servers i hope more companies implement this. So we can wave p2p away like a bad sore.

[SegataShanshiro]

lolOlolololol you all go to helll....quake 3 official servers on da dreamcast are still on.....

[HeavenlySnipes]

I don't mind the patch :/ (PS3). I see less USAS spammers, and the custom servers are nice. I played a 1400 ticket conquest on Metro. Best 2 hours of BF3 I've ever played.

[ironmonkey]

its about 360 theres nothing wrong with the ps3 version

[iXenon]

Isn't it "EA HAS destroyed Battlefield 3 on the 360"?

[honkyjesus]

At what point did the author think, "I really need to use ennui here instead of a synonym for it because there is nothing more pretentious than writing video game articles with words I myself have to look up"?

[LivingTribunal]

No they haven't. They have made the game BETTER. My server is full 24/7. Why? Becaus i run Large maps ONLY with increased ticket count. No more 15 minute games on Caspian Boarder. No more 3D spotting and no more KILLCAM!

WHOOO HOOOO!

[GuyManDude]

Servers like that are awesome. I really hope the next patch has a lot of options to really narrow down what you want to play. Like looking for servers with no killcam, servers with no shotty frag rounds, etc.

There should also be an option to look at non-user servers (without having to set search parameters). Don't know why this isn't a thing, but I'm optimistic that this gets corrected.

Still the best tactical FPS on consoles though.

[LivingTribunal]

Sure you get little kids who take money from mommy and daddy and rent a server for 30 days but if you can siff through all the crap you will find some decent servers run by great admins.

[RyuDrinksTheDew]

the only problem ive had with these custom servers is getting booted for no reason.

giving random gamers that kind of power isnt that best idea, if they start getting destroyed by a couple of dudes on the other team, you can just boot them.

not cool at all.

[Jackel2072]

i really dont see what the problem is here. renting servers has been a proud PC tradition for years now. I cant tell you how many times i wished for dedicated servers on a console,i mean its amazing such a thing even exists on XBL to begin with.

[younglj01]

I love this new patch.I get too play alot of different settings.I personal love the ticket count on some maps when you have a TEAM working together it can be alot of fun.

Now people complaining about recoil need too learn burst fire.Even if I'm using and full auto gun I still burst fire.Right now I'm loving the HK2002.

[bobrea]

The author of this article thinks he's so badass.

[Mad_Mack]

The author's a dick

[SuperBeast811]

HUTCH!!!

[Soldierone]

The beginning of this article was honestly the most depressing thing i've ever read....and it doesn't even make sense with the rest of the article. Could have just pulled the most common one line ever, "Most good things come to an end."

[chobit_A5HL3Y]

or, you know, they could just have 3 options for servers: "dice", "private", and "any". i forgot. dice doesn't know what they're doing lolz apparently the famas being overpowered = nerf EVERYTHING in next patch.

[SneeringImperialist]

Ea destroy everything on anything.

[eak3]

The Dice Servers are the best ones imo. As long as they keep them up and running I dont have to worry about what the idiots renting servers are up too.