VG247 has been told that Sony is aiming to release PlayStation 4 before Xbox 720 next Christmas, and that certain developers have been invited to reveal meetings in the US in May and June.
As long as Sony doesn't release this a year after the next Xbox like the PS3, all will be well.
Question is if the two within a few months of each other will cannibalize both their sales to a degree...?
That's the whole point of a sales war. As long as Nintendo doesn't consume both their sales. Which it might. It will likely be cheaper.
Whether they come out a day or week or month before the 720 isn't the issue. If they both come out holiday 2013, then that'll be great for Sony. Its biggest disadvantage aside from its starting price point was its year late release, although it was a better built system. Both systems will be great to own but as far as "winning" the next gen race, releasing the system the same time, if not slightly sooner, against their biggest competitors is important. I just hope they don't take shortcuts JUST to get an earlier release. That wont benefit us!
fuk...what I wouldn't give for all these rumors to be true. Sony and MS the only thing I ask is that your hardware outputs 1080p at 60fps.
it really doesn't matter, Xbox will sell more in the US and PS4 will sell more worldwide
Damn. Its heatin up! Next gen is close, I can feel it.
Me too bro just imagine how epic it's gona be
They have no choice other than to release first or else Microsoft will destroy them again. But i think Microsoft will be ready for this.They will have a trick up their sleeve They can afford to undercut them , out advertise them and whats stopping them from releasing first
"destroy them again" Do we really need to be quite so dramatic, they've been pretty neck and neck all generation, MSs head start being the only convincing factor to their >slightly< larger install base. Destroy? Lol
Microsoft was the underdog the gen.Sony wasnt The PS3 was expected to pwn Not to be in last place
No matter how you slice it Sony is in last place this generation. Which is a bit of an upset because they were king the previous two. I want to keep the competition going strong so I hope they do release first and it is a 'win' of a console so the race stays going. It will only benefit us consumers in the end.
Relax, Sony is gonna releas their console to put pressure on MS causing them to quickly hurry up and put some shit together slapping xbox720 On it and shipping out another RROD
Th original xbox ran fine so does the slim.The hardware failures are a thing of the past They messed up with the 360 but they are capable of building a solid machine
Sony have been destroyed in terms of market share (compared to last gen), but they've done well to catch up to be nearly level despite all the doom and gloom early on.
Sony was destroyed, but not by Microsoft. Nintendo destroyed everyone. MS was a close second last generation, and they're a close second this generation. That said, if Sony ever wants America back, they're going to have to throw down the gauntlet to get people to leave Xbox Live now, no matter when they release. People have invested in their gamerscores, Arcade games, etc. There's going to be a reluctance to leave all that even if a free PSN can match it feature for feature. Sony has an uphill battle if they want to regain their dominance; but if their content with just a profitable, successful console next gen, then I don't think they'll have any problems.
Oh please... trick up there sleeve? Lets hope this trick is something along the line of consoles not overheating at a 52% rate. Consumers basically let MS slide this gen with that crap... but if it happens again, they might as well pack it up and go back to software.
"Hardware problems area thing of the past" <- not to consumers that don't own a slim. Than again even the slim isn't infallible. So no, hardware problems are not a thing of the past and I doubt they will be forgotten going into the next generation. I know I for one will be leery of the next box. Yeah most likely I will get one at launch, if possible (depending on supply and demand), but every time there is a slight pause I will be wondering it's going to go belly up and be a repeat of last generation. I'm sure a lot of 360 consumers that have been through the failure will be thinking the same. Although I doubt MS will make that same mistake twice considering the original had such a good track record. Edit: How am I above Ice_Cold when I am responding to him and replied after him? N4G is having some serious issues the past few weeks. At least it has been for me.
Destroy? Quite an acute exaggeration don't you think? How would releasing early stop Microsoft from 'destroying' the competition? The Wii released around the same time as the PS3 and we all know how that story ended. So it doesn't really matter. The problem with the PS3 was the price.
They've been clear for the last few years, the 360s 12 month lead was a mistake, cost Sony market share and put the on the back foot this gen. So they have to get it out in the same launch window, of course, ideally just before. Edit: in part I believe that delay was to integrate BluRay, which of course was a success in its own right, but something they should avoid next gen (continue with BD).
That's pretty smart. Don't release your console way after the competition and price it competitively and you got the recipes for success.
A wise decision, a mid 2013 release before Durango's "fall 2013" release would mean Sony would have one up.
Gut feeling Uncharted 4 could be a release game launch with Project Obris.
That would be a great launch title
Mega hits are never lounch titles so stop dreaming. Lunch titles are always crap games like racing or other bulshit. Hits start to show up after about 6 months.
Never ? We've had Mario nd zelda titles launch system . Halo , dead or alive as well , launched the xbox . The dreamcast launched with Soul Calibur, Virtua fighter 3 ,Sonic Adventure, Power Stone, Marvel vs. Capcom . Even the ps2 in the west had tekken tag , ssx , dead or alive 2 , madden , timesplitters .
This is big news. If Sony wants to get on top of Microsoft they should definitely release there console before Microsoft. Then they can focus on PSN.
you cant stop Microsoft now, its too late just like Apple they are on Fire.
This sort of arrogance is what cost Sony this gen. If MS ever think like that, then they will have problems.
No one take this guy serious .....he only has one bubble lol
The Wii says....Imma Luigi Number 1!!! Some of you guys idea of dominance is weird. 2nd place isnt dominance
either that or I'm going exclusively PC.
Project Orbis a.k.a PlayStation 4 will usurp the competition by providing industry leading specs that are friendly to any and all developers. It's very obvious that Sony wants to finish what they started and complete the obliteration of Microsoft. With an even more broader scale for PlayStation Network, Dark Sniper sees Microsoft's writing on the wall as doom and gloom for the Xbox division. To put this bluntly, Xbox Live will not be capable of competing with PlayStation Network next generation. Sony is consisitently at the forefront of bleeding edge technology and has the foresight to design their consoles with a ten year, future proof protocol. Whenever PlayStation®4 blesses itself upon the market, you can be sure that Dark Sniper will be the first in line to get his console. $niper
We all know the slant of Dark Sniper's posts. Pretty amusing to be honest. But one serious point he brought up that is actually relevant, is "To put this bluntly, Xbox Live will not be capable of competing with PlayStation Network next generation." Now this is greatly exaggerated of course, but you Xbox gamers who are paying for XBL Gold are going to have one hell of a time trying to further justify Microsoft's continued decision to charge for online gaming, once PSN does everything that XBL Gold does, and for free. The only reason features like Cross game chat, party chat et cetera are not on PS3 is OS memory issues. The PS Vita is now offering pretty much everything XBL does and for free - PS4 will continue this trend, and Microsoft's subscription ransom will look more ridiculous than it already does. That's just the situation Microsoft and people who defend the charge will be in. This is not a troll post, I'm just trying to put things in perspective. Even though some people are using the "get what you pay for" reasoning, by comparison to what is available elsewhere, you really don't.
Another great comment dark sniper :D
What could happen (according to rumors) is for Sony to release new console in holiday season 2012! Rumors are saying 3rd party wants more than 2 gigs in console and Sony isn't willing to go above it, thats why DICE said couple months ago "2 gigs won't do for next gen". And being faster than MS cant possibly mean month or two, it would make little sense. One guy with inside info from GAF also said MS is shooting very highly with hardware, and that game Sony simply can't play, MS would probably like to bait them in hardware tech race and to lose 3-4 bill dollars on new hardware like last gen would kill Sony. This is just one of theories, maybe they will both launch the same time with comparable tech, but MS is (according to the source) going batshit insane.
I read that theory. That info was blatantly false and was full of fanboyism if you read it. His site is all full of fanboyism.
would make no sense imo releasing so early . Cuts into your ps3 profits , throw potential vita clients in disarray too , and wont be enough time to prepare for a good launch , game wise .
I am completely fine with this as long as it doesnt release after, tired of waiting for a specific platform. Also this will probably turn the tide between the two in the u.s, ofcourse nothing is certain unless Sony can market and release games for the platform. Another thing I figure, is both platforms will have great O.S and due to that great services. I am sure Sony wont be making that mistake they made with the ps3's memory archictecture. However I do fear where everything is going, all this digital and restrictions isnt a good thing. But at last we will see how things pan out from that moment on.
I hope for the love of god it has cross game chat! I just spent last night with my Xbox on using party chat to speak with my friend as we both played Dark Souls on PS3!
It makes sense that they would try for a pre-720 release, the year the 360 had before the ps3 helped it gain a lot of momentum, there are plenty of people who only buy one console a gen.
Honestly it's really won't matter if sony comes out first or last. most people said that if it doesn't support BC with the ps3 then they aren't going to buy and if the stories are true about sony going with AMD instead of the cell. then i can see BC being a thing of the past and sony charging gamers for HD re-makes of games gamers already own.
Only way I see them going completely amd is,it's cheaper than reusing cell and powervr combo.
So all this "we have a 10 year plan and MS doesn't" was just stupid PR talk?! Who would have thought.
Sony still have a 10 year plan, who would have thought.
I think they meant that they'd support the PS3 for ten years(even after a new console comes out.) The way they did with the PS2. The "Microsoft doesn't" thing is referring to how easily MS abandoned the original Xbox after the 360 was released. Something people assume they'll do with the 360 once a new console comes out. It wasn't PR talk, they were saying that they'll still incorporate the PS3 into their business strategy even after a new console launches. Something only Sony has done up till now.
No, Nintendo did the same. Heck, the SNES was discontinued in late 2003. The point is all this "10 year plan", "futureproofed technology" talk Sony used was aimed at MS. Now it turns out that the Xbox 360, even though it released a year earlier than the PS3 will last longer without a successor on the market. So the Xbox 360 has a 10 year lifecycle as well and was just as futureproofed as the PS3.
PS3 will clearly be supported after ps4 launch, if it does launch 2013, thats 7 yrs into the ps3 life.....remember what they did with ps2
What's wrong with you people? 10 year life span NEVER meant without a successor! It means it will be supported to 10 years even after the successor release.
You're right, 10 years supported doesn't mean 10 years exclusive. The PS2 was supported for a good 8 years or so, even after the PS3 came out. Releasing the next Playstation doesn't compromise the 10 year plan...
So the next-gen Sony fanboy excuse will be "Microsoft let the PS4 come out first just so they could one up them", lol.
b1663r best comment on here that made me laugh.
When I have vs13 and last guardian then I willtalk about next gen.
Rumors from the same site regarding the "Ps4 and 720". They just beat Kotaku on the rumor mill. Still, this year's E3 and TGS would be exciting (Wii U and perhaps teaser from MS and Sony?). 2013's E3 would be immense.
SONY gunning for spring 2013. Launch window titles: God of War IV The Last Guardian The Last of Us Gran Turismo 6: Prologue Ready At Dawn: New IP Metal Gear Solid 4: 5th Year Anniversary 1080p edition Final Fantasy Vs. XIII Grand Theft Auto V: Enhanced Edition 1080p Would you buy this system?
God of War, probably. last Guardian, yes. Throw in Uncharted 4, yes. The rest? Not so much.
You would think with all these posts, agrees and disagrees that the PSN is down. Holy crap, we got some Sony fanboys out and about. Anyways, I hope both systems are great, except for Sony's. :P
It'll all come down to price. I think they'll release pretty close to each other, unless Microsoft surprises us at E3 this year. For me to get back on the Sony wagon they would have had to of learned from their mistakes and offer an affordable console for a change. If they can get on par 3rd party support and some major online overhauls than I'd be more inclined to pick it up earlier on. I did get a backwards compatible PS3 pretty early on in the PS3 life cycle, but I got the Xbox 360 on launch. Gears looked so sick back in 2005 compared to everything else at the time. If people think the next console race is just about who releases first, I think people don't understand how it works. Nintendo's Wii wasn't released first and it dominated because of pricing and because it was something fresh and new. I personally don't care about super high end graphics if its going to cost me $600 up front and that's before you even buy a game...
take away the sells from xbox 360 where ppl was buying new ones bc of rrod sony would have more sell world wide but the xbox 720 and ps4 come out withing few weeks or months apart we will see who wins next gen its going to be close tho also SONY needs to advertise more for the PS4 then they did for the PS3
na...if you have read on n4g, people on here said they have 2 to 3 PS3 at home and all of them also upgrade to ps3 slim once it is out. They want to show how hardcore they are in supporting their favorite PS brand. The funny thing is that, the same people turn around and said that x360 have higher sale due to rebuy from RROD? So give and take, x360 should still have higher sale LEGITLY?
If this was really the case, we would have to see something shown this year.
i really dont want a new system anytime soon! ps3 has alot of great games I haven't got yet, and a lot coming soon!
Sony release was not the problem this gen. Price was. Look what sony did to the dreamcast and the dramcast released first. Just follow that stragedy.
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