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New concerns over Xbox 360 security as credit card details retrieved

"More concerns have arisen over the security of Xbox 360 after it emerged that restoring the console to factory settings won’t necessarily remove your personal information. A team of university researchers successfully retrieved credit card data from an Xbox that had been recently refurbished. What’s even more alarming is that it was done with basic modifying tools.

The findings could set alarm bells ringing for consumers who have sold their Xbox 360 thinking they had successfully wiped the console of any personal data. Head of the Drexel University research team, Ashley Podhradsky, said the only way of being truly sure that all personal data had been deleted was by using a third-party data erasing program such as Darik’s Boot & Nuke."

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ziggurcat4203d ago

new concerns, yes, but no one is going to do anything about it because it's not sony.

jimbobwahey4203d ago

Typical Microsoft isn't it? Huge security flaws, so just make sure everyone keeps hush-hush about it at the customers expense.

kreate4202d ago

Why do ppl treat microsoft different from sony?

DigitalRaptor4202d ago (Edited 4202d ago )

I can't believe such a story hasn't blown up on N4G, let alone major news outlets. Sorry for calling conspiracy here (it's terrible, I know), but when Sony's network went down and no money was lost and no credit card information compromised and Sony actually gave their consumers compensation that they didn't need to do, they were still crucified by the media.

When things like this http://www.hackedonxbox.com... are happening where users actually had money stolen and some people still haven't got their money back after months, and this recent news surfaces, not a flutter of media backlash, or from the community and denial by Microsoft themselves. Something very worrying indeed.

hardcorehippiez (comment below) has it nailed.

Why are we not hearing more about this being publicized and made more public? Why is Sony always the one to get raped by the media and Microsoft issues get swept under the carpet? I fully expect to get sarcastic responses from MS fanboys, but this goes deeper than fanboy issues.

Tai_Kaliso4200d ago

There is nothing hush-hush about it, Microsoft has already came out and said its impossible for credit card info data to be stored on a HDD on the Xbox 360. Its a non story.

Sony fans are just dying for there to be a flaw in the security armor that is XBL, which is downright shameful really.

DigitalRaptor4203d ago (Edited 4203d ago )

Hmmm this is intriguing. More information that for some reason probably will never truly surface or be acknowledged.

Kind of like how this was ignored: http://www.hackedonxbox.com...

hardcorehippiez4202d ago

rest assured this will be swept under the carpet and forgot about , played down as its only a small minority and nothing will be done about it or much reporting. even though no actual credit card information was obtained in sony's breach because the whole network was pulled down to secure it it will be made a bigger deal of . if people cant see the media bias by now then they are burying their head in the sand and not choosing to see it because they themselves are bias and it doesnt involve their system of choice. its sickening the way the media acts this generation and in my opinion they are ruining gaming.

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It's a good thing Microsoft now says its "adorably all digital" future plans are outdated

They suggested a potentially different path to Sony, and poorer game preservation as a result.

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Vits1d 11h ago

Honestly, I don't mind a digital-only device - I do play mostly on PC after all. I just think that one paired with Microsoft's way of handling expandable storage is a bad idea.

Like, just imagine how expensive that would get with 1TB costing around 150 USD and the current sizes for AAA titles.

FinalFantasyFanatic17h ago

Agreed, it wouldn't be so bad if you could drop any drive into it, personally I'd like some games to still have collectors editions (I miss that about PC gaming, you don't really see physical collector's editions any more).

Cacabunga14h ago

If all goes digital, you’ll pay for everything the price they want you to, and you won’t own anything!!!
I have over 700 games as freebies from PS+ since it was first revealed on PS3.. i just never bother to look in it i just feel like they aren’t there.. would have loved to have them physical

Vits14h ago

@FinalFantasyFanatic

Yes, the issue here is price.
As for collector editions, honestly, I have never been that much about collecting them. But I do miss the time when physical games had actually physical things other than the cartridge/disk.

@Cacabunga

That is another issue with consoles, as they all work as walled gardens the prices are dictated by a single entity. So the issue is not exactly that games are digital but rather the stronghold that the manufacturers have on the sales channels.

Now if you are blind to online content simply because it's digital. Then that is more of "you" issue and likely one that will give you a lot of headaches in the coming decade.

northpaws13h ago

Not that I agree on all digital future, but it is not like you are saving any spaces for buying physical disc, you still need the exact same space to install the game.

Vits13h ago

Oh definitely. But at least in my case, I like to have all my library backed up. Physical media does that by default but on a console like the Xbox Series you have a real issue if you plan on doing that with digital games.

JackBNimble6h ago

Vits

What do you mean when you say "I like to have all my library backed up?"

You can redownload digital games that you own the license as often as you like. What am I not understanding here?

The only advantage (imo) for physical is ability for resale, and for someone like me it's a non issue since I prefer not to sell my games. I have a very large library

aaronaton20h ago

I honestly don't understand when ppl buy digitally over physical on launch when the game is the same price.
With physical, you actually own the game, its not a prolonged rent. Plus with single player games costing over £60, its nice to know you can recuperate costs after completion.
Ppl that buy all digital are either lazy or not very savvy when it comes to expenses.

ocelot0720h ago

Many positives for digital. So for example EA Sports FC 24 is a game I put 200 plus hours in and will be playing off and on for a year until 25 releases. For me it was actually cheaper getting digital. Cheapest I could find on disc was £62. On PSN it was £65 I went to shopto.net and bought £65 worth of PSN credit for £58.

Another reason I buy a fair few games digitally is game sharing with my partner. She likes call of duty I also enjoy cod but get board of it right away. Again it's another £65 game that costs us £58. Since we are going half each it actually cost us £29 each. That's much better than paying £60+ for a disc copy each.

The likes of say Spiderman and god of war if it's single player only. I'll get on disc. As once I'm fully done with it. If my partner wants to play it she can. If not I can sell and get some money back for the next game.

andy8519h ago

People need to use thegamecollection more. They give £10 extra reward points on new games and are generally the cheapest place anyway. EA 24 is £59 so as I always use their site it's basically £10 extra off and with my cashback it would have been £45 for me. AC Mirage only cost me £25 from there.

EvertonFC17h ago

Exactly, i played and completed spiderman over a weekend, bought for £60 and sold at CEX for £48. ONLY cost me £12 for a AAA title. I will buy MP games but 20 hour SP games 1 weekend and cash back.

Vits20h ago

It depends a lot on what game and what region you were in. For example, where I live we don't really get all the games officially launched for PS5 in physical format. This means that we often have to buy the American or European versions of the game, but that comes with an annoyance because of how PSN deals with DLC. Another issue is the market up that those games that don't get an official release end up getting on physical.
For example, Koei Tecmo stuff tends to be between 10% to 20% more expensive on physical and if you buy it from an internet store (Amazon and the likes) you normally don't know which version of the game you will get.

That also basically murders the second-hand market. Because again as people pay extra for the physical version, they have a tendency to charge extra as well. So it's not uncommon to find second-hand games at a similar price as the digital versions, do they sell? Probably not, but that doesn't stop people from listing them.

However, there are obvious exceptions. Sony-published titles have a tendency to be a bit cheaper in physical media during launch. Spider-Man 2 for example can be pre-ordered on Amazon right now for 15% less than the digital version. So in summary it's all a big fat "it depends".

Asplundh20h ago

Game share, if you have someone to share with it can save a chunk of money.

Vengeance113819h ago

Maybe open your eyes and look at the full picture instead of judging?
Physical is exactly that, physical. It takes up physical space, room. I've been collecting physical from PS1, PS2 to PS3 and with hundreds of games I simply don't have the physical space left to add more shelves nor would it make sense to being in an apartment.
Digital just makes alot more sense, buy 100s or thousands of games, have it take up 0 extra space physically. Couldn't care less about "owning" the game, I just want to play it and complete it.

FinalFantasyFanatic17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

I already put my PS1 collection in a tub and sealed it away for now, I was thinking of doing the same with some of my older consoles I don't regularly play (e.g. the PS2, Wii, N64, ect...).

Vengeance113817h ago(Edited 17h ago)

Yeah I have all my PS1, PS2 and PS3 collection in a 2 huge tubs sealed away. Shelf space is for physical movies, as they are far superior to any modern streaming platform.

EvertonFC12h ago

I had all my music collection stolen (£1000s) when I worked overseas but it was all in like 6 big boxes. I ended up just downloading all my music collection off a torrent and put it all in about 3 memory sticks.
Best thing that ever happened my music collection getting stolen 🤣😂

sci4me18h ago

Since i split that cost by 2 (sharing with son) your premiss is wrong. I stand to save money instead of bying two copies.

Shane Kim18h ago

Nowadays, you dont own physical either. They can just write a piece of code and your disc reader won't read said game.

TQQ17h ago

That to my knowledge has never happened and if it did they would have a class action suit waiting to happen.

Don't boogey man stuff.