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If You Hate the Mass Effect 3 Ending, Chances are You were Indoctrinated [Theory]

By now I’m sure you're all aware of the Mass Effect 3 ending debacle. With the game being many people's choice for their most anticipated release of this year, and its perfect score, all the negativity surrounding the game may seem slightly unwarranted...

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Mythicninja4415d ago

I think the evidence for this is pretty solid and hard to ignore. This explains all the violations of the mass effect canon, and the frankly non-sense explanations for the existence of the reapers. I find it hard to believe bioware would or could screw up the ending that bad. That being said, if this idea somehow proves to be false, they screwed up royally. Hard to ignore how space casper is the same kid in the beginning of the game that no one sees. Bottom line: the ending was either the most brilliant ending I have ever seen, or the biggest disaster I have seen. I hope it turns out to be the former, and if so, I hope bioware can prove this was the plan all along, not something they took from fans to put out the fires

aliengmr4415d ago

Im not opposed to the theory, but it is in fact false. Final hours app, has evidence the ending was intended. I really think this had to do with deadline issues. The ending had changed after a previous leak, and rumor has it the one we got wasn't finalized as late as last November.

CashColeTrain13374415d ago

Actually, It just made it supported it more. No where in Final Hours does it say anything about the "Actual" ending. There was most likely a bit to tie in the final bit of the game, but that app confirmed that the "kid" was supposed to be a bigger part of the game from the beginning. One last thing is the kid's model is named Harbinger in the files.

VanillaBear4415d ago (Edited 4415d ago )

I think the theory is the only thing which can save the ending. It's so good that I feel Bioware were going in that direction anyway but because they couldn't finish the new ending they stopped it at the decision making so they could get the games out to retail while the continue working on the rest of the ending.

There not just small things in the game where you probably could dismiss them as small plotholes, overlooked possibilties or even coincidences.....it's all been built up way too much to be shrugged off as any of those. It pains me to see that people dismiss this theory when theres so much evidence to support it, it's not like fans have complied a load of made up, exaggerated BS, the stuff is really there and everything makes more sense when you link the indoctrinated theory to the ending.

Anyway if this theory is true then the people who wouldn't want the ending changed (god knows why) wouldn't have to worry anymore since instead of changing the ending all their doing would be adding onto it, which, as I've said they've probably been doing since the start thus putting the "To be continued through DLC" message at the end of the game and showing Shepard alive in just one of the endings.

To me this theory is what makes me laugh at the people who are defending the crap out of the ending and call the people with common sense "idiots", "crybabies", "moaners" and making it look like a bad thing Bioware listed to us and are changing the ending

Pherhaps though and this is a bit of a stretch, if Bioware were that smart, that turning fans against each other was their plan from the start to continue the unfinished ending they couldn't get done on time so they have a good excuse to charge people for the real ending......making it look like it's the fans who have complained fault and that Bioware were only listening to fan feedback even though this was there plan from the start. As I said bit of a stretch and totaly wrong...but it's a genius plan. Every issue has another side of people to defend it

Rupee4415d ago

The more I read about this, the more I start to believe it. Kinda depressing though... I chose the control choice. If this is true I allowed myself to be indoctrinated, something I thought I could never allow to happen... Brilliant if true.

FrightfulActions4415d ago

Just a thought. Control is essentially the same thing reapers do. Indoctrination. The control choice is very akin to what the reapers are already trying to do to all organic life. So the kid makes it sound like a good idea. It's even the action the Illusive Man wanted to take, someone who was clearly indoctrinated.

The synthesis ending is another one the kid puts favor on. The combining of organic and synthetic life. If you remember correctly, that is basically the whole plot of Mass Effect 2. Collectors harvesting humans to pump their genetic goop into a giant human-reaper construct that is both a machine and a organic. The reapers believe in both indoctrination and "saving" organic life by turning it into robotic abominations. The kid is in favor of both of these choices, the only choice he makes sound like a bad idea is the choice that effectively kills the reapers. Self preservation isn't strictly a organic trait apparently.

The list of plotholes in the endings could go on forever, but the biggest one to me is probably the Mass Relays. Mass Effect 2 Arrival DLC had you destroy one of them. Destroyed that entire system. Every choice you make will result in every relay being destroyed. Nevermind Reapers harvesting organic life, be more scared of the madman destroying the entire galaxy. Isn't there suppose to be a relay right behind Pluto? I take it then, Earth was completely destroyed.

While I'm ranting, anyone else upset we never actually found out why Haestrom's sun was dying? It was mentioned a few times in Mass Effect 2, something about dark matter, yadda yadda yadda science talk. I kind figured that'd somehow come into play in ME3, like they were setting it up for something to come in effect later on the adventure.

Also, weren't we promised to have the mystery of the Keepers answered in ME3? Maybe I missed it by being so WTF'd by the ending, but I never really saw any significant reference to them at all. They don't even really make an appearance (other than the single one at the docks) until the end. Even then they're just kinda there, doing stuff. Not significant or important, completely overlooked.

Mythicninja4415d ago

I did notice we never found out about the dying star, or where the keepers came from. Mass 2 made it sound like the dying star cause would be something big

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BioWare Could be Working on More than Just Dragon Age Dreadwolf and Mass Effect 4

Earlier this year, BioWare was hit with layoffs as part of a downsizing of parent company Electronic Arts, but fans have been reassured that the next Mass Effect game hasn’t been impacted. Likewise, Dragon Age: Dreadwolf’s development is still churning along, with BioWare putting it at the forefront of its focus and rumors suggesting that it could launch sometime later this year. Fans might be getting another look at the long-in-development Dragon Age: Dreadwolf at the Summer Game Fest in June.

If the recently posted job offering for a temporary development manager is any indication, BioWare could have yet another surprise up its sleeve for when Mass Effect 4 and Dragon Age: Dreadwolf are nearing completion. This mystery BioWare video game could truly be anything, from another spin-off of its two major properties to something entirely new. All there is to go on at the moment is a vague mention in the job posting, and it might still be some time before BioWare is ready to confirm any new games in its pipeline.

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just_looken23d ago

So a studio that spent years on anthem then this dragon age thing is now also working on another ip along with mass effect,

You think they would be worried that there brand has been on 3 major screw ups

Dragon age 3 launched broken with the frostbite engine yes its a good game but you can see in the late game how rough it was

anthem......

Mass effect 4 well that dev team was fired so yeah.....

They should make sure this new dragon age is a goat instead of putting more work on the table

bababooiy23d ago

Bioware today is like 150 poeple i dont see how they are seemingly working on all these projects at the same time.

Michiel198922d ago

Inquisition wasn't broken, it just had some flaws and on the contrary it also had some strengths. If you call inquisition a major screw up then idk what to say.

That said with what happened to the study since then and now, I'm not really confident that their next game will be any good.

just_looken22d ago

If you played it fully to get plat like me back in its novemeber launch window you had that castle with empty area's endgame missions not there or working and a mp that was made around loot box grind like the mass effect mp.

Its hard to explain to those that played it years later after they tossed out the dlc/patch's

Michiel198922d ago

entitled much? I played it at launch too. Why you even platted it if it was a "major screw up"?
It was good enough for you to sink 100 hours in but also a complete fuckup at the same time, make up your mind.
So either you like shitty games or you're just talking out of your ass.

RaidenBlack22d ago

Well just wanna say, Archetype Entertainment is the new BioWare, composed of mainly ex-BioWare vets.
And they're developing Exodus (starring Matthew McConaughey), a new sci-fi RPG (spiritual successor to Mass Effect, dare I say?)

CantThinkOfAUsername23d ago

I hope it's a single player game with Anthem's gameplay mechanics.

Becuzisaid23d ago

They're owned by EA. What makes you think that they wouldn't publish for PS5? Shoot, if your fridge could connect to your bank account EA would try to release it for that if they could!

Double_O_Revan23d ago

How about they focus on those games and not over extend themselves? We don't need another Anthem.

Becuzisaid23d ago

Bioware died after Inquisition (some would even argue after ME3). They are no longer the same company.

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EA Hopes to Use Generative AI to Drive Monetization and Make Development 30% More Efficient

Today Electronic Arts CEO Andrew Wilson provided a look into his ideas for the use of generative AI in the company's development processes.

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thorstein49d ago

I wonder what the next buzz word they'll slap in front of AI to make it sound exciting next? "Generative" as if it's creating its own content. Lol.

Cacabunga48d ago

EA is already dying a painful death..

peppeaccardo48d ago

i have a better idea .. why the whole exec team doesn't get replaced by chat bots ?

just_looken49d ago

Though i agree the ai thing is already in other forms of media there have been ai translations/scripts/voice over and even full ai commercials aired on tv. Ubisoft has created a ai game creator story/vo/music except the building of the game

The new unreal engine has auto terrain creation tools

In the world of greed in which it is winning without any major blow back ai is our future.

everyone want's biden dead on the mic or a criminal instead of a woman and now we are getting ai everything because no one will stop watching/playing ai created media.

GamerRN48d ago

Maybe they should just focus on making good games?

Just a thought...

Kiryu199248d ago

Exactly EA are just pure evil. When they are beating Bank of America to be voted the worst company to work for that’s saying a lot

Good thing I don’t buy their games day one and wait for deep deep sale years after launch (the select few games I am actually interested in)

Gaming is making so much money yet the greed of these companies is never ending

CEO’s and people on board making millions yet cutting jobs to those who are actually making the products

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Knightofelemia49d ago (Edited 49d ago )

EA is still a shady shitty company even with or without the help of Skynet. All they will use AI for is new ways to milk loot boxes and come up with the same sports title with a different year on the label. They are one company I truly do hate with a passion. They single handedly ruined some great franchise with their death touch. ME, Dead Space, Alice Returns, Dante's Inferno.

Stuart575649d ago

EA layoffs followed by 'Generative AI to Drive Monetization'

I knew it. Wonder what AI salary looks like? Nothing.

ChasterMies48d ago

I having a feeling that most of the layoffs in the industry are based on the idea that AI will do the same job for less.

DarXyde48d ago

Very likely, yes.

Made worse by the fact that the execs aren't changing their compensations.

My deepest fear at this point is that we are now in the capitalism endgame.

At this point, we really should just burn AI to the ground. Executives cannot be trusted to do the right thing.
How are those people expected to support families if everything gets automated?

Barlos49d ago (Edited 49d ago )

And take away creativity, and people's jobs as we've been seeing. Got it.

No thanks. I want my games created by people, not AI.

CobraKai49d ago

Exactly. If or when games start becoming more AI than people, im done with gaming. AI and companies like EA can suck donkey d***k.

just_looken49d ago

Though i agree remember this is no ps3/360 era were we got up to 3 games in one generation from on developer like gears/halo/bioware/sony/ms

The people today are pro esg/sweet baby for the most part AAA gaming is imploding right now.

We should be stepping back re evaluate everything as a whole this year xmen 97 written/directed by a woman that is nuts and its also being made by a group reshaping bodies to be less sexual like wtf. A dam famous cartoon from the 90's is being rebuilt with millions spent to be worse in everyway.

Gaming/movies/tv shows made today are worse than what we had 7years ago ai won't change this but that ai is also being made by these groups so either way we are screwed.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Eonjay48d ago

Don't be of afraid of women. Sexy characters in games and movies still exist. Got my Stellar Blade on preorder!!! Everything all the time doesn't need to be sexual...that's stupid, childish and dull.

Chocoburger49d ago (Edited 49d ago )

EA doesn't want to lose their title of worst gaming company ever, always trying their best to remain the champs!
What's sad is that they have so much potential to be a decent publisher.

SSX Tricky / SSX 3
Def Jam Vendetta / Fight for New York
NBA Street
NFL Steet
Mirror's Edge
Bad Company
Burnout 3 / 4 / 5

Remember when EA used to be awesome? It's all over with now. Unpolished, if not out-right broken games these days. Endless monetization and gambling in their sports games, and let's not forget wasting hours of your life trying to unlock characters or equipment using "surprise boxes!"

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Mass Effect 3's Ending for Javik Misses the Forest for the Trees

Based on one narratively fitting ending in Mass Effect 3, Prothean squadmate Javik is highly unlikely to return in the next Mass Effect game.

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anast50d ago

He was one of my least favorite characters. I wish they would have done the Proths different.