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Mass Effect 3 Writer Allegedly Slams Controversial Ending

A very critical post about Mass Effect 3's ending has been attributed to BioWare writer Patrick Weekes, though the text's origin has since been called into question.

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Emilio_Estevez2401d ago

Seems questionable about the circumstances, but what the poster said makes a lot of sense.

Sashamaz2401d ago (Edited 2401d ago )

s/He'll be losing his/her job :(
If this is true ofc

"This was entirely the work of our lead and Casey himself, sitting in a room and going through draft after draft...Casey and our lead deciding that they didn't need to be peer-reviewed"

teething2401d ago (Edited 2401d ago )

If that is the writer (or not), I pretty much agree with everything he said. The ending was not so bad (I like the intellectual ending), but instead the lack of personalization to your actual choices made it lack.

da_2pacalypse2401d ago

I didn't need to read this to realize that the ending was not made by the same people who were responsible for the side missions. The side missions were fantastic, the main missions were nothing special (the ending especially)

Christopher2400d ago

Pretty much what da_2pacalypse said. You can't compare the ending to the ending on Tuchanka, the result of saving the council (again), and that moment when you finally make a difference in the war between the Quarians and the Geth.

Every death in this game, other than Shepards and the kid at the beginning, carried a lot of emotional weight for me. And while I hated not having a real choice in saving them, you can tell with the writing that they weren't doing it callously and without reason. It was a sign of the sacrifices being made to right the past and unite for a brighter future.

I still stand by my belief that the ending, while some may see it as 'intellectual', was done based on a business decision. One with the purpose of ensuring that future Mass Effect games, all of which are noted to happen before the ending of Mass Effect 3, and similar media will not conflict with the ending we experienced. By removing the answers we desire, they can continue to develop storylines that won't conflict if certain people didn't make it or based on the result of your choices. In the end, all choices lead to pretty much the same result.

limewax2400d ago (Edited 2400d ago )

@cgoodno

Damn those mod bubbles look good, but seriously that is the most intelligent theory I have heard so far. A lot of people seem to be taking to the idea of it being done to sell us extra endings. But yours actually makes much more sense.

I remember not long ago, Bioware put a message out telling people to keep a hold of their game saves for ME3 hinting there would be more, Now if we could swing the world in massively different directions due to our choices it makes it really hard to make ME4. It would literally have to have two or more completely different universes on the disc which would more or less mean building at least 2 completely different games that average out at the usual length of an ME game.

The only bit I dislike about this is that they must have known that for a while, and they deluded gamers by telling us that our choices would have a lot more impact

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Nimblest-Assassin2401d ago

"This was entirely the work of our lead and Casey himself, sitting in a room and going through draft after draft...Casey and our lead deciding that they didn't need to be peer-reviewed"

This is what irks me and makes me feel like this may not be valid. If you are passionate about these games, you should have walked up to Casey and said NO! THIS SHOULD NOT BE THE ENDING, and explain and try to reason why the current ending would not fit.

Sure this guy gives a great ending that I would have liked. But, why not push as hard as possible. Im sure that his ideas would have been respected.

Truth is Im not in the I HATE nor I LOVE categories of the ending.

Im more curious as to why Bioware made the ending they did, and what their rational was behind it. I even got that Final Hours of Me3 app and watched all the interviews and the design process behind ME3.

Im waiting for Casey Hudson to explain "his" ending, and why they chose to make something in this sense.

Personally I am hoping for the indoctrination theory buzzing around, but Im not in one set camp.

Sure I probably would have hated the ending when I finished it, but people were complaining so much before I finished the game, that I had reduced my standards for the ending, and actually was very intrigued as I definitley noticed these plot holes, and noticed some of those indoctrination ideas during the ending and my current insanity playthrough.

Today BW made a statement, asking for constructive critisism and asking aside from the ending, was ,ME3 the best Bioware game they delivered.

Since I only played 3 Bioware games, yes, yes it is the best game I think they crafted minus the ending because it was so ambiguous.

I think people need to stop raging, regardless of how disappointed we are. We need to show Bioware in a respectable manner that yes, we are disappointed in the ending, but give critisim on the game as a whole, rather than one part.

Overall the story telling in ME3 is excellent, and people need to talk about ME3 as a whole rather than insatantly complain about the ending, no matter how pissed of it makes you.

I say, lets be patient, game came out 2 weeks ago. Let Bioware explain this ending to us, and then we decide if their vision is acceptable to the characters, story and lore, or not.

Thats all

joab7772401d ago

U know what's funny, ken levine doesn't even let anyway read the story or know what's going to happen in bioshock so that they can get a good perspective. I imagine that he will listen to input, but some people love their project so much and are so sure of their abilities that they are ultimately going to do what they want.

What saddens me the most is that if this forces bioware to change the ending and give it out for free, EA is gonna be pissed. And we can say goodbye to studios having freedom over content. I'd rather live with the ending than give justification for corporate to make content or artistic decisions.

rdgneoz32401d ago

"I'd rather live with the ending than give justification for corporate to make content or artistic decisions."

If the quote from the writer is true, then the ME3 writers had their artistic freedom restricted. The way the writing was set up was to have group input, but with the ending, only Casey and the lead (Walters) had any say in what happened.

That's a bit different from one guy deciding from the start about what was gonna happen throughout the whole story.

Canvas Of Flesh2401d ago

I don't really care if the poster is really a Bioware employee or not, what he posted would have been a great ending.

VanguardOfCalamity2401d ago

Interesting post... I like to see something like this also :)

"I wanted to see banshees attacking you, and then have asari gunships zoom in and blow them away. I wanted to see a wave of rachni ravagers come around a corner only to be met by a wall of krogan roaring a battle cry. Here's the horror the Reapers inflicted upon each race, and here's the army that you, Commander Shepard, made out of every race in the galaxy to fight them. "

BI0RAPTOR2401d ago (Edited 2401d ago )

The statement you copied and paste also caught my eye to the point I did the same.
Although your input says what I was thinking to do.
This would have been great to see something in the lines of this ending

As to the article a lot of the read makes senses.

Tuxedo_Mask2400d ago

That sounds like the ending to Dragon Age: Origins.

EditorAtGNG2401d ago

Seems to me (if this is indeed legit) that they cut all those things with a purpose... DLC. Hudson can go f-himself for thinking he can get away with this. Not only did they lie (twice) about the DLC but now this...

VanillaBear2401d ago (Edited 2401d ago )

I don't know who to believe, apparently Chris has said it's fake but people on the forums are bringing up to stuff to make me think that part of it could be true

Although with whats gone on since ME3, I don't know if Bioware can be trusted so it makes me think this could be true. It's easy for Bioware to come out and say "It's fake" isn't it...

SageHonor2401d ago (Edited 2401d ago )

Priestly could be attempting damage control. He's ... " contradicted" himself multiple times in the past so yep

EDIT: I still think its fake though.

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