Top
530°

To Mass Effect 3 Players, From Dr. Ray Muzyka

Dr. Ray Muzyka:

"As co-founder and GM of BioWare, I’m very proud of the ME3 team; I personally believe Mass Effect 3 is the best work we’ve yet created. So, it’s incredibly painful to receive feedback from our core fans that the game’s endings were not up to their expectations. Our first instinct is to defend our work and point to the high ratings offered by critics – but out of respect to our fans, we need to accept the criticism and feedback with humility.

Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on this in April. We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received."

Read Full Story >>
blog.bioware.com
The story is too old to be commented.
NYC_Gamer2404d ago

How many ME3 owners will spend 10 bucks for the real ending?

Emilio_Estevez2404d ago

87% of all the ones who didn't return it yet.

Baka-akaB2404d ago

Dont forget that some of the folks returning are already planning a return to the game , used of course or with a potential new edition .

Could be seen as ludicrous i known , but i've actually heard that from some people

Emilio_Estevez2404d ago

Is this part of their master plan?

1.'Leak' script
2. Release game with unsatisfying ending
3. Wait for nerd rage
4. 'New' ending as DLC
5. Profit

crxss2404d ago

it will have to be FREE if Bioware plans on saving themselves from this disaster.

cjflora2404d ago

Ha, disaster? Really? Let's grow up and remember this is a video game now.

Ares84HU2403d ago

Like I said before, I don't understand people. I like Mass Effect and I had no problem with how it ended. Actually, I liked the ending. I was expecting something terrible but it wasn't.

I think returning a video game just because the ending wasn't "to your liking" is way too extream to me. There are hundreds of games way more deserving to be returned because not only it's ending but the whole entire game is terrible. But returning a game because you didn't like it's ending....how big of a no-life nerd you must be to do that or even complain about that.

People just don't know that this is a video GAME.

The ending was fine, in fact I liked it.

JoySticksFTW2403d ago

I think people forget that the rage is not directed just at the ending, but at the broken promises and hype fed to gamers including many different endings influenced by the player's actions throughout the series.

There's a huge thread right on Bioware's forum listing all of the developers' statement about the game. I personally wouldn't return the game, but after reading that list I definitely understand the false advertising claims and rage.

People feel lied to by a dev they trusted.

And as for high ranking reviews, we all know that many if not the majority of RPG reviewers don't actually outright finish the game before submitting a review.

Might the scores then be lowered? Maybe not, but at least reviewers could warn fans of the short coming. And in an RPG, story including the ending is a major talking point.

IcarusOne2403d ago

Simple solution: ignore the hype.

The reality: the game is outstanding. The nerd rage is pathetic.

+ Show (4) more repliesLast reply 2403d ago
lsujester2404d ago

I'll just watch it on YouTube.

Simon_Brezhnev2404d ago

Yeah i'll just watch it on youtube.

ThatEnglishDude2404d ago

Yeah I'll watch it on YouTube

Nimblest-Assassin2404d ago

Yeah, I'll just repeat your comment like the other two guys

NeoTribe2404d ago

Can I watch it on youtube?

Rockstar2404d ago

@ Neotribe

Whisperings on the internet seem to suggest that you can indeed watch it on Youtube...

CrAnKiTuP_012404d ago

Huh... You know... I think I'll just watch it on YouTube.

solidjun52404d ago

What 7 of these guys said. Youtube.

Vladplaya2404d ago

I just gonna go ahead and watch it on the youtube! Glad I came up with this idea!

Nimblest-Assassin2404d ago (Edited 2404d ago )

ALL ABORD THE YOUTUBE CONGA LINE!

CHOO CHOO!

Edit: What if it is free?

(Rare, considering EA owns Bioware, but there is a sliver of hope)

crxss2404d ago

I'll just upload it to YouTube

Deputydon2404d ago

Ill just play the DLC and continue to enjoy the Mass effect saga. Sucks to be one of those guys watching it on YouTube.

Hayabusa 1172404d ago

OMG! Why didn't I think of that? YOU GUYS ARE GENIUSES!!! I'll just watch it on Youtube!!!

Hang on, I can watch any game ending on youtube...I'M FREEEEEEE!!!

TheColbertinator2404d ago

I will need to check who will upload it to Youtube

SuperBeast8112404d ago

whats this "YouTube" you speak of with its magical game ending viewing portal?

dredgewalker2404d ago

Awww come on......fine I'll just watch in on Youtube.

Kos-Mos2404d ago

I`ll watch it on YouTube because I`m not interested in playing the game.

+ Show (14) more repliesLast reply 2404d ago
exsturminator012404d ago

I would. We asked for it, they weren't going to make it but will if we pay; I'll pay.

BI0RAPTOR2404d ago

If we end up paying for this DLC ending if such a ending is being made? and we pay for it.Then the wrong message is getting sent out.Every other game dev will take suit and before you know it we will be getting shafted left right and center.
We need to take a stand and hold the line!!!
See what I did there?
Never mind....

cjflora2404d ago

The wrong message has already been sent if these guys are going to redo the ending based on the entitled cries of their "fans".

Amazingmrbrock2404d ago (Edited 2404d ago )

the bigger question is how many people that never played mass effect are going to buy all three games so they can see what all the hubub is about.

"What there's a controversy!? I better check this thing out" Mr normal man gamer guy after hearing about mass effect three scandal.

Kalowest2404d ago

"how many people that never played mass effect are going to buy all three games"

You can only buy the ME Trilogy on PC&360.

Outside_ofthe_Box2404d ago

How many ME3 owners will like the real ending?

ziggurcat2404d ago

they'll likely whine about whatever ending bioware comes up with as well, then start another petition, cry, and throw a 3-year-old-esque temper tantrum.

OmegaSlayer2403d ago

The kindness of one between Muzyka, Zeschuk or Hudson reported and had shut down the twitter account I used to promote the request of Mass Effect 1 on PS3.
Just because I sent this link
http://www.radioplaystation...
As you might see it doesn't contain anything offensive.

ziggurcat2403d ago

the problem of putting the first one on the PS3 is that it was published/funded/etc... by microsoft game studios, and we both know that MS would never allow any of their games onto the PS3, unfortunately.

+ Show (4) more repliesLast reply 2403d ago
VanillaBear2404d ago (Edited 2404d ago )

I'm still getting that vibe off them that they are trying to come off like the ending we got is the one they planned from the beginging...come on Bioware admit it, the script was leaked and the ending you came up with was spoiled so you settled on an ending which you guys would also be able to continue from in the form of DLC since you wouldn't be able to get it finished

I mean can you really come up with a new ending, plan it, wirte it and then develop it in 4 months. Maybe if they used those resourced they wasted on the multiplayer things might of went differently.

"Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey"

Except they have proberly been working on it since they had to make a new ending anyway...thinking that they could get away with making us pay for the real ending because they couldn't finish the new ending in time. Hell maybe alongside the rest of the ending we'll have a "Take back Omega" DLC aswell even though it was apparently supposed to be in the game anyway"

"However, most folks appear to agree that the game as a whole is exceptional, with more than 75 critics giving it a perfect review score and a review average in the mid-90s. Net, I’m proud of the team, but we can and must always strive to do better."

I know people have their opinions but how fans say the ending was "exceptional", if you see all the articles on the plotholes and the Indoctrination theory you just can't let it go...it makes sense. I just feel like their sucking up to them to be honest. Oh and for the reviews well yeah they reviewed the game as a whole, they're not going to review a game just on the ending...I loved the game, I would give it 9/10 but I still can't see the logic behind the ending. So yeah nice work trying to spin it that the uproar isn't that bad .

I just can't take Bioware seriously anymore, they keep going on like they care and want feedback but after the DLC, From Ashes content that was kept as DLC and the fact theres obviously more to the ending

Even if people didn't say anything about the ending we still would of had to pay for epilouge DLC, I hope people realise this so they don't think "Oh thanks to the "moaners we have to pay for "another" ending" when it says it would continue when you finish the game.

--Onilink--2404d ago

one thing i dont agree with you is about the left out content made DLC... any game in development has to ditch out ideas or content because of time restraints, its absurd to think that everyone that was initially on the script will make it to the final game, or game development would take forever.

On most games we either never see this content, or its used for sequels, in the case of ME3, its clear it couldnt be used on a sequel..

you even mention that they didnt even have time to complete the ending, then how could they have time to complete extra story missions?

honestly i think ME3 provided a great deal of content so i think if they left out something, it was because of time

VanillaBear2404d ago (Edited 2404d ago )

"you even mention that they didnt even have time to complete the ending, then how could they have time to complete extra story missions?"

...

Because they would of worked there way up to the ending and considering Aria says something about Omega quite early on in the game I'm guessing that would of been started on before they even got close to working on the ending.

"honestly i think ME3 provided a great deal of content so i think if they left out something, it was because of time"

Except you don't just do a half finished ending, as I've said they could of got the other team/studio who worked on the multiplayer to help them instead. I think the single player is more important then a tacked on multiplayer. It's like they actually thought "Well we could of that OR...we could earn a little more money if we just sell the rest of the ending back to them when we finish it once the game is out"

The thing with Bioware is they didn't actually expect people to say anything. They thought we would just take it and let them screw us over....I'm glad people actually had some common sense and voiced their opinion over something that they didn't like

--Onilink--2404d ago (Edited 2404d ago )

yeah, i agree completely about the ending... but not about the rest of the content. They have a schedule to stick to, if they realize mid-development that they wont have time to finish everything, they have to cut content... this happens in every game.

As for the MP thing, its hardly the same thing to have another developer, not even on the same place, to work on something completely diferent, than to have them work on the same thing you are doing, at the same time you are working...

besides, MP was probably something that was pushed a lot by EA, so its not like they could just not do it

BI0RAPTOR2403d ago

@ --Onilink--

While I agree to disagree with some of your points I can not swallow the idea they cut the Ashes content out due to time or budget or even resources.
The Ashes DLC was pre meditated as pure profit.
You telling me they keep the whole law of Mass Effect (Prophians) out due to what ever.
I would have been happier them keeping that in and cutting some thing else out...
Oh wait they did......

karlowma2404d ago

http://www.officialplaystat...

They didn't have the grand master plan going in to the whole situation that everyone seems to think. They certainly weren't brainstorming details of the conclusion of a trilogy when they were making the original game. He makes a good point in reminding us that the story in ME3 needs to work for those who maybe passed on the first two games. How tailored an experience do we really expect from a mass (sorry) produced game?

VanillaBear2404d ago

Wow...one article and you believe them like that......great.

They still had the ending planned out, they even said it was going to do with Dark Energy they hinted on in ME and ME2.

So they still had it planned out and probably ready since the game was supposed to come out last year.

They're probably talking about the side quests, small choices, minor characters and little details. You can't really believe that a games developer wouldn't have a plan, especialy for a game which lets you choose multiple paths changing things in the story here and there.

Disccordia2404d ago

I've been reading the leaked script and although it's hard to read/follow, it seems like the ending was pretty much the same.

karlowma2404d ago

It's so ridiculous that they are even addressing this. When in popular artistic media has fan outcry caused the creators of said media to alter their creative vision, possibly losing all integrity in the process?

If you write a story, paint a picture, record an album, or yes, make a video game, have the pride to stand up in front of it.

Anon19742404d ago (Edited 2404d ago )

I agree, but I feel that they are standing by their ending. "We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received."

Right there he's saying that they aren't about to compromise the series conclusion, and I loved his assertion that games are art. But for those moaning about loopholes or unresolved plot lines, maybe some additional content can bring those players some satisfaction although, I don't think it will.

I personally feel the people making the most noise (and bear in mind I'm not talking legit fans that simply wanted a bit more from the ending) are the same people that hate anything that's popular be it TV shows, bands, games, you name it. We saw this happen to RockStar, Infinity Ward, now Bioware who consistently put out amazing products, but all of a sudden there's a certain subset of gamers who turn on them. We've seen it before, we'll see it again. Personally, I think caving to this type of internet nonsense is like negotiating with terrorists. It just encourages them. I think (and hope) Bioware well stand by their original ending even if they do decide to offer some new dlc based on the feedback they received.

Like the good Dr said, "Some of the criticism that has been delivered in the heat of passion by our most ardent fans, even if founded on valid principles, such as seeking more clarity to questions or looking for more closure, for example – has unfortunately become destructive rather than constructive."

Real fans offer constructive criticism, they don't target team members with hate campaigns and spout off just for the sake of spouting off in every forum they can find.

Pintheshadows2404d ago (Edited 2404d ago )

It has nothing to do with artistic integrity. Casey Hudson already admitted they changed the ending to 'get people talking'. That has nothing to do with art, it's just stupid.

And well done Dr Muzyka, for finally responding to fans. But really, you're proud of that ending?

Can you imagine if he'd said 'STFU crybabies, look at the review scores, we are awesome'.

wollie2404d ago

its because they know what they created is awful, and than cannot be proud of it.

solidboss2404d ago

I can understand the right to defend your art otherwise it wouldn't be original wether it be in the form of a novel album or movie, one example I can see of this is from the recent movie called the grey SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NO SEEN IT at the end of the movie Liam Neesons character is about to square off against an alpha male wolf only to have the last scene cut to black after showing him charge at the wolf. Now if u waited after the credits there was a 2 second scene which depicts neesons character laying on top of the wolf as it takes it's last breath and that's it. Many people in the theatres did not like the ending (i personally love it) but loved the movie. It's one thing to have an ambigious ending that leaves u thinking "i wonder what happened" as opposed to an ending that makes you left wondering "is that it? All this build up for nothing". In this case it seems both me3 and the grey are similar because both leave the audience in the dark wanting to know more. Now in defense for the movie the grey a whole different ending was shot where Liam neeson fights against the wolf and even has different dialog, BUT in order to witness that and answer your questions of "I wonder how that fight turned out? Or who won" u have to purchase the DVD/blueray release for the alternate ending. I can also understand y the fans seem so upset over this ending because this is not a solo music album, or a random novel or even a brand new movie its a video game FRANCHISE. Something that we as consumers invest our time into. a series that we have come to grow and love. Can u imagine the outcry if something like harry potter, starwars or even lotr ended in the same tone as me3? There would be hell. So if bioware does change the ending or simply "add to it" for closures sake, the only way I see them gettin out of this is havin this content FREE. They already have enough negative attention as it is they don't want to be on their fans negative side. Even more.

karlowma2404d ago

Have you read Harry Potter? Just sayin.

solidboss2404d ago

To be honest I have read just the first book, but I was only using it as a reference to my point which is the fact tht this is a franchise. A franchise that flourished over 3 games NOT TO have closure at the end? If not Harry potter then use lotr. What if rotk ended not knowing what happens to gandalf or frodo or Aragon u would feel like all of these characters who u invested your time into deserve the closure and I think that is the main thing tht the fans are complaining about, granted I myself have yet to Indian the game but this is what I am gathering from reading non spoiling posts on the subject

karlowma2404d ago

I think the morale of the story is that there is no artistic integrity present in this situation at all; or rather, it wasn't something Bioware was concerned with until the bitchfest started. The production of this game has been a marketing ploy, with exciting promotions such as Choose Your Own FemShep and Shitty Endings In Space. The series has been in freefall since the original game in many regards, possibly due to the shift from artists' intention to "what sells more".

I'll leave you with this: How lazy has the development process become, that we are now not only patching technical flaws post release, but game story as well?

+ Show (2) more repliesLast reply 2404d ago
lastdual2404d ago

I just can't take these guys seriously when they spout complete BS like this.

Muzyka saying "ME3 is the best game we've ever made" is no different from when Todd Howard was telling us "Skyrim is the least buggy game we've ever made".

Give us a break! No rational person would ever believe these utterly ridiculous claims. Just admit the game was rushed out and be honest with your customers.

wicko2404d ago

Pretty much. And there won't be a new ending - he wants to balance fan feedback and "artistic integrity". There's no real balance when the fan reaction is "make a completely different ending", so we'll have to stick with the shitty endings and the dlc will cover some plotholes or something..

thelion2404d ago

A lot of heart expressed within the body of the text, thank you. I very much enjoyed the game, but like most ME fans I felt bitterly disappointed at the lack of choice in the fate of what is in my opinion the greatest and most real game hero ever created.