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Sony: XBLA Achievement Change Won't Affect Trophies

The Sony response to the change of 360 achievements.

DigitalRaptor4820d ago (Edited 4820d ago )

"The spokesman went on, noting that Sony has "a standard and consistent system to determine the Trophies available for a particular game. The overall scope of the game determines the Trophies available, not method of distribution."

This is not entirely true.

Look at HD ports like Resident Evil 4 and Beyond Good & Evil. The scope of those games are that they are full retail games from last generation. They should have a Platinum trophy, but they don't. The standard isn't set by Sony, it's what the developer wants. Obviously the developers of those XBLA/PSN ports simply took the Achievements, which only previously allowed 200GS for them, and used them as the basis for the Trophies with no consideration of the scope of the game being appropriate for more than 12-20 trophies and in particular, a Platinum. I'd rather they be more honest about this.

Some games do offer a complete set of trophies, and I appreciate the devs that take time to, but I'm glad now that "Arcade" titles can offer a higher achievement limit, which will lead to the appropriate amount of trophies too. Hopefully, this does affect the trophy system, cause I'm sick of seeing full games of past being labelled as "Arcade" games (even though that's a completely false description) and seeing only 12 trophies for games that have the scope for more. Perhaps I'm being a bit anal, but it's true.

catfrog4820d ago

i think sony forces a maximum amount, not a minimum. minimums dont matter so much on trophy scale, not to the overall structure. if a developer put too many in it could ruin the system though, so thats where they enforce their rules

Rynx4819d ago

Also this may sound like one of those "I heard from a friend of a friend of a friend" relay of information, but I did overhear somewhere that SONY doesn't allow trophies for free games or games under a certain price point.

Although yeah, I do have to agree that it does boil down to the developer. Just like how every single DLC that Insomniac did for the Resistance franchise added 0 trophies. Or how they're too lazy to go back and add trophies for Resistance:FoM and excuse it towards working on Resistance 3 as a reason. Yet, Naughty Dog did it for the first Uncharted when all the while everyone knew they were also working on Uncharted 2 at the time.

Skate-AK4819d ago

Kinda true. You can't get trophies for DC Universe or Free Realms unless you have a subscription.

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Fishy Fingers4820d ago

Why would it effect them, they're purely arbitrary numbers, they have no relation to each other.

catfrog4820d ago

i think some guy just saw an opportunity to write an article and went for it lol

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20 Most Crazy and Original Achievements in Video Games

Care for a garden gnome in Half-Life 2, self-irony of the Uncharted developers, Indiana Jones in Civilization 5 — remembering the most difficult, unusual and interesting achievements in games.

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Leeroyw2472d ago

Polish website with translation warning:
The engalish notta so good.

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Beginning to End: Being a Completionist

I'm not the most successful guy when it comes to unlocking achievements. My full score is less than 50,000 but I take great pride in knowing most of those points come from completed games and not just games that I've beaten the campaign and moved on. And I think there's something to be said about what a gamer can learn by completing a game 100%. #achievements #complete

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MrAmazing3086d ago

I think my want to understand the whole story of the game is what determines if I want to complete it 100 percent, and I only end up 'completing' certain games because of it. But the ones I do completely beat turn out to be my favorites.

JMRamee3086d ago

I highly recommend you go back and try to 100% games where you didn't enjoy the story. I was one of those gamers who didn't enjoy ACIII. I thought Connor was a bland protagonist and the overall story started out too slow and ended too fast. When I went back to the game to 100% it, I was forced to play all the side missions. I saw sides of Connor I never did before and interacted with some truly fascinating characters. ACIII isn't my favorite Assassin's Creed by any means, but going back to grab all the achievements in the game has raised the game's worth in my eyes. I'm not saying all games are like that but a few stories are vastly improved when you're searching for all the goodies to unlock everything.

ziggurcat3086d ago

I try to get everything as much as I can, but there are some games where it's far beyond any reasonable amount of effort.

JMRamee3085d ago

I hear you on that. ACIV's "reach level 55 in multi-player" and Dark Souls III's "Learn all Pyromancies" achievements come to mind. Both were brutal affairs for very little payoff other than being steps on your quest to unlocking everything.

ctmaudi3086d ago (Edited 3086d ago )

A look at Trueachievents and you can find plenty of people with 90%+ completions and hundreds of thousands of gamerscore. Your gamerscore or number of trophies has almost no bearing on how good of a gamer you are. Just how much time you have to devote to a game.

I'm an achievement hunter but mostly because my back log of games is so huge. I try to maintain a 75% completion ratio so I don't feel so bad about buying a new game that ends up sitting unplayed for a year. I used to do that play for a few minutes or hours then it would get traded. I hate doing that and now find I get more for my money if I try to make myself get most, if not all of the achievements. Except for games I really like and care about, I go for completion for them. Just a hair under 200k now while keeping 75% since I started tracking that.

JMRamee3085d ago

I'd argue a degree of skill is necessary. Take a look at TrueAchievements again. True (haha, puns) there are plenty of people with a 90%+ completion rate but how many of them are 99%+ completion rate? And are also gamers with plenty of AAA titles on their list? There are not many. And those who do have it typically don't exist in the 150,000+ gamerscore bracket. There are some to be sure (like Brownman) but there are not many. Even you yourself claim to only have around 75%. I imagine if you went for a 99%+ completion rating, you wouldn't have the 200,000 gamerscore that you do.

So yes, there are quite a few games that you can 100% just through persistence and enough time (like Assassin's Creed Unity) but there are also just as many that take a degree of skill, patience, and experience in playing video games to 100% (like Dark Souls III).

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Achievements: a Love Hate Story

A criticism of video game achievements, both their implementation and their affect on the industry.

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DeathOfTheFanBoy4175d ago

I love achievements but I have OCD concerning odd numbers, Halo reach F£%"ED UP my gamerscore and the achievement it had to re-balance was so difficult to get, you needed to be online with an amazing team and get a perfect flag return score or something like that??? Anyway after months with no success I actually hacked my gamerscore in order to get that single achievement in order to make my gamerscore even again, OCD.

Ripsta7th4175d ago

Dont love em but sure do like getting them :)