Dead Space 3 Powered By Frostbite 2.0 - Rumour

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[rickybadman]

Why would EA switch Dead Space to the Frostbite Engine? The Dead Space engine is already a propriety engine. They not have to pay any licensing for it. I guess "Powered by Frostbite 2" with be the new marketing slogan EA screams at everyone

[Mac is OK]

If this is true my guess is that they're switching to Frostbite for next gen development.

[iChii]

Games like Dead Space don't need awesome graphics. Awesome gameplay, Story and Horror is enough for me to say that I freakin' love Dead Space. I don't think they'll be using Frostbite.

[kaveti6616]

"Games like Dead Space don't need awesome graphics."

What does "need" have to do with it?

EA can market their games better if they have better graphics. Dead Space 3 would benefit from Frostbite 2 in the following ways: lighting, animation, shadowing, texture, physics.

Better graphics is not something to shrug off.

[da_2pacalypse]

Soon Every EA game will say "power by frostbite 2.0 engine"

I can see it now..... Hello kitty Island adventures, POWERED BY FROSTBITE 2.0 ENGINE!!!! GET IT NOWWWWWWW!!! -_-

[NewMonday]

its like an in-company Unreal engine, that's a smart move, and remember Frostbit incorporates great physics and audio, also destructible environments.

now Bethesda need to use IDtech engine on Elder Scrolls and Fallout.

Sony are already using Santa Monica studios in helping co-develop 1st party games.

[DARK WITNESS]

Dead Space is one of the few games that I feel really does not need it.

Maybe it will make a big difference for nextgen developement. If I was to go buy the current gen look I would say Dead Space does not need it.

Dead space was one of the most underrated games from a graphical point of view in my opinion. The sound and physics etc were all perfect.

One thing that impressed me more then anything about Dead Space was how stable everything felt. I mean there were hardly any bugs in the game at all. objects etc just looked so solid, the textures were solid, I never noticed any popup at all.

frostbite 2 is great on pc from what I have heard, but I have not seen BF3 on PC only on my 360 and some aspects are great, but there are a lot of things I still don't like about it, too much for me to start listing here, but lets just say I am not jumping for joy at the thought of this.

[DeadlyFire]

"One magical engine to rule them all"

I personally do believe they will use Frostbite 2. Why? Well its EA. They can streamline their whole business plan with one engine on every game. They can upgrade it as time goes on. Cheaper and easier to keep your development team tweaking the same tools and engine than to bring anything else into the picture.

I don't think EA is the only one that does this. Valve does it very much so. There was HL2, CSS, Team Fortress 2, Portal 1&2, Left 4 Dead 1&2, Counter-Strike: GO, Dota 2, hmm....

[The_Nameless_One]

Why not? Better engine then the one Dead Space uses already.

[kamanashi]

Not exactly. Fb2 is good, but not for everything, it is also very unoptimized at the moment, so its not really the best idea to use it right now. Wait until they can do some similar to CryEngine 3 where it looked better and ran better at the same time.

[Bladesfist]

@Kamanashi CryEngine 3 does not look that much better and runs worse. And how can you say an engine like FB 2 is unoptimized when it provides the visuals it currently does, I think you meant not matured.

[dirthurts]

What? Cryengine 3 runs way way better than the first 2 editions.
Benchmarks everywhere prove it.

[Gazondaily]

Let's just pray there are no flashlights in Dead Space 3. My retinas have been raped to submission already.

[Shaman]

Because FB2 is EA's engine? It was made by lot of guys from EA, not just DICE.

[enfestid]

The Dead Space engine is EA's engine, too.

[TheGameFoxJTV]

So, why does it matter if EA decides to use a new engine over and old one they developed for the Original Xbox before bring the game back for 360 a while later? Yes, Dead Space 1 was going to be on the Xbox 1.

[TheGameFoxJTV]

For everyone who disagreed with me, here you go. Dead Space 1 was suppose to be on the original Xbox but was canceled. It was brought back this gen.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.gametrailers.com...

Don't disagree if you don't know shit about anything.

[Voxelman]

EA want Frostbite 2 to be the one engine they use for all their games so they can have one codebase to maintain rather than having each studio creating their own engine when most games could be built on the one engine with some tweaks.

It is a good business decision as it means they waste less resources reinventing the wheel for each game, it also means that they can have one of the most advanced engines around as they have half a dozen studios updating their engine to keep it at the bleeding edge. It also has the added bonus of allowing their employees to get used to one development environment so they can more easily switch projects and will allow them to develop games faster.

Bioware's next game will probably be FB2 as well

[tmoss726]

Actually I'm not sure if Bioware's next game will be since they've used Unreal 3 for all the Mass Effect games. But it could happen since they're supposedly making Generals 2 with it.

[Voxelman]

They also used an inhouse engine for Dragon Age and a 3rd party one for TOR. But with the current EA initiative for FB2 to become the defacto engine for EA studios and the fact that the Mass Effect (Shepard) trilogy is over so the team will be moving on to something different from them probably on next gen hardware which may or may not be set in the Mass Effect universe so that would be a good opertunity to move to a different engine which is what I meant I just didn't word it correctly. We may even see Dragon Age 2 on the FB2 engine tho that is less likely.

[ziggurcat]

i have a feeling that they wouldn't have to pay any money for the frostbite engine since they're an EA developer...

[pedo_across-the-road]

Can I haz my Simpsons game 2 nowz?

[MEsoJD]

I just hope it's not exclusive on Origin, or I'm going to pirate. I'm probably going to get a lot disagrees for that.

[JsonHenry]

Because Frostbite 2.0 is an awesome engine. And LOTS of games from RPGs to RTS to 3rd/1st person shooters are signing on to use this engine. They must have really done something right with this engine to make it so desirable.

I'm not sure about the legal specifics but isn't the people that make Deadspace owned by EA? So why would they lease their own engine to themselves if that is the case?

[tmoss726]

Because DICE who made the Frostbite 2 engine is owned by DICE? It actually makes perfect sense. And in case you didn't know, there's already a non-DICE game powered by Frostbite 2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[ATi_Elite]

YES it's going to happen!

i said a long time ago that EA's goal was to have all their console games be affiliated with 1 of 3 things:

EA Sports
Bioware
Frostbite 2

So right now Dead Space on the frostbite 2 sounds just right.

[Nicaragua]

This is more of "something we made up" rather than a rumour.

[cjflora]

I agree. There is no evidence that any of this is related to Dead Space 3.

[Burning_Finger]

Holy Mighty S***.

I'll probably jump more from the scare. lol

[Hufandpuf]

Great, They need to keep pushing FB2, it's the gateway into next gen games. And I bet DS3 will look amazing with it especially on PC.

[StayStatic]

Agreed , Dead Space 1 was a poor port on PC , not played 2 but heard it was better control wise.

Third times a charm ?

[irepbtown]

3rd time lucky!!!

[tubers]

The only poor I found about DS1 was the aiming. Everything else was bearable.

I even prefer DS1's industrial, low color palette art style. More atmospheric.

Probably would be nice with FB 2.

BF 3 looks so "monochromatic/colorblind " compared to other modern shooters like Crysis 2 (wider color palette).

Might work with DS3 LOL.

(half joke, half meant)

[Biohazard8860]

Dead space 3 xD !

[LoaMcLoa]

Haha?

[Biohazard8860]

why the dislikes lol im exited for this game haters gonna hate i guess.

[Adexus]

You received the disagrees because your original comment had absolutely no point to it at all.

[Play2Win]

Dead Space belongs to the best released Games this generation according to Horror Games. GodFather Engine is great but Frostbite would be the sh!t.

[phantomexe]

I can't wait for another dead space. I got a feeling it's why RE is taking a step back and trying to bring back the scare that they use to be none for. Capcom said you can't shoot and move it takes the scare out of the games but dead space proved them wrong IMO. Now capcom is doing it.

[The_Nameless_One]

As much as Dead Space 2 completely disappointed me I am glad EA did not went Assassin's Creed all over it and went with a yearly game release.

[phantomexe]

How did it disappoint ya i'm curios? It started epic like, no gun and your runing for ur life. It stayed true to what worked on the original. If it's not broke don't fix it.

[HOSe]

snooze fest

[STONEY4]

I didn't enjoy Dead Space 2 as much either, but I still had fun. IMO, it just didn't have the same atmosphere as the original. I didn't feel any tension at all for most of the game. The Ishimura chapter was my favorite part though, something about it gave me the same feeling I got when I played the original.

[tubers]

Bosses felt like mini bosses.

Nothing in 2 had the impact like when the Hive Mind popped up to eat your arse.

Ubermorph was just a lame ass regenarator. The original DS1 twitcher had more charisma.

The ripper blade dangling looks pathetic compared to the 1st.

The power ranger suits. :( (Loved the gritty industrial art of DS1)

... Wish it had more bosses and felt like they're bosses (tripods were thrown too frequently).

I cannot deny the loveliness of the DS2 controls and faster action pace (fast kinesis compared to 1) AND impalement emphasis. (PC version ofc)

I just wish the PC had Severed DLC (or was it Severance LOl).

[The_Nameless_One]

As you say, it started good. Then it all became fast and actiony. Issac was no longer the odd man out. His movements were not as heavy as with the first game.He just went all Rambo. I just didn't like how he "Brought it to them" as EA so beautifully put it. I also felt...SPOILERS...that the whole going insane part wasn't done right at all.

The first game was much more cerebral while the second one was much more action.

[Sevir]

The franchise is amazing! can not wait for Dead Space 3!!!

[SKUD]

I do agree DS2 was disappointing. The ground work was really laid well with the original DS. DS2 two was just stuck on horde mode with breaks in between fit some sort of story. Less puzzles too.

DS had a pretty good blend of all that. DS2 just over did it. More action to please the "masses". I'm not even sure what direction there gonna take with DS3. My guess, MORE SHOOTER / MP /BRO-OP ACTION.

[Convas]

I dunno bout you knuckas, but seeing a Brute literally BURST through a wall in FB2 would nail me. Whatever they're doing, I cannot WAIT for Dead Space 3. DS and DS2 were amazing games, and I'm still playing DS2!

[tigertron]

Dead Space has a great engine already, why change it?

[NYC_Gamer]

FB2 is more advanced than the Dead Space engine.

[k-dillinger]

ill be playing this on consoles where it belongs..

[tubers]

If they're not gonna release DLCs like severed on the PC then I might.

But 30 FPS has just been too dizzying already when you played DS1 and 2 on 60 FPS on PC like I do.

Crisp 1080p is also delish.

But ofc, if you don't have a decent PC. Console is the best option :) No PC DRM as well

[tmoss726]

Why does it "belong" on consoles?

[Biohazard8860]

Hopefully they focous on the single player cause multiplayer was really not needed in dead space 2.

[Gamer-Z]

Could be that they are doing this to ensure a next gen experience without investing more money into advancing the original Dead Space engine.

[Voxelman]

I wonder how FB2 will work in a corridor shooter, from what I have seen it's strength is in large scale but Dead Space while it has it's moments is mostly a claustrophobic experience. I guess that FB2 will be tweaked a lot by the time it's out.

[CrazyRap]

Yes please, same thing to mirror's edge 2.

[Roccetarius]

They better not be using that damn engine for Dead Space 3. Stick to the engine you're using now.

Dead Space 2 was already one of the best looking games in 2011.

[MrGunny94]

This is becoming the new "Milking"

[Pandamobile]

How is switching production to a better engine "milking"?

[Zephol]

i cant wait to see this great game.

[blodulv]

CryEngine 3 plz.

[MizTv]

what ever they used on ds1 and 2 was great so why the change now?

[hiredhelp]

I dont care witch engine gets used loved dead space engine, cryengine rocks and frosbite 2.0 is awsome.. But its how its used that matters anyways all i want for dead space 3 is real campaign co-op.

[phantomexe]

That would be cool campaign co op.

[rattletop]

frostbite 2 needs a bit more improvement in lighting. imo it's the 2nd best engine after the red engine. there r parts that cryengine 3 does better.

[MizTv]

yes i just love the ds games and i have to say that ds2 was my goty of 2011 and i cant fn wait till ds3!!

[codename13]

Anytime we may hear that new Sims sequel will also be powered by Frostbite 2 :P

[a_bro]

i really dont see the point in this, unless they are making it for next gen. Dead Space with Frostbite 2.0 will benefit more obviously with frostbite 2, especially when it comes to the lighting aspect of it. that would actually be spectacular, although, dead space 1 and 2 already had awesome lighting

[HaVoK308]

Why would they change Dead Space's engine to Frostbite 2? For marketing reasons probably. Personally, I think it is a horrible mistake. Why put the extra burden on the developers. There goes extra resources and more headaches. Dead Space is great the way it is. More Dead Space is what I want. I could give a shit about the Frostbite 2 engine. It is nothing special in my opinion and grossly over-hyped.

[johnsonbat]

Still haven't got the balls to finish the first one yet.

[OmegaSaiyanX]

Is appauling on consoles, BF3 looks worse than MW3 on the 360 and NFS: The Run is outrageously poor - NFS: Hot Pursuit kills it in both graphics and gameplay.
Anyone seen the character modelling in car in the run? Exactly compare that to hot pursuit, actual person who moves and reacts.

[TronEOL]

Seems like everyone is getting ready for the next generation of gaming. Of course Frostbite 2.0 can be used on our current generation hardware, it's also already suited up for the next Playstation, Xbox and more powerful PC's.

So it only makes sense EA will be using this engine for most of their "to-be released" games for next-gen hardware. Won't have to spend the money on creating new engines for all their action games when they have a perfectly good one right in front of them, ready for use.

Smart move by EA.

@most people saying Frostbite 2 shouldn't be used.
Something Dead Space could take advantage of would be the lighting and sound features of the Frostbite 2.0 engine. Battlefield 3 actually has some of the best sound and lighting. So to have those options in a horror game that relies heavily on, both, sound and lighting would be amazing.

Not to mention the destruction aspect in the engine would make for some amazing set-pieces for Dead Space and animations would make for a more realistic, engaging and relate-able experience.

I'm all for the Frostbite 2.0 engine in Dead Space (among others) after reading into it more.

[Raoh]

Please don't ruin this series..

I loved 1, really liked 2 even though I skipped most of the story scenes, really poor writting imo and the multiplayer was a waste of development resources, I am worried about them ruining DS3 just to gain a more mainstream audience and losing their core fans in the process.

[PersonMan]

Does this mean that Deadspace 3 will have screen tearing now?

Same thing happened with Need for Speed: The Run (other blackbox games never had screen tearing and now Frostbite 2's new features are screen tearing and blinding lights... tons of bloom and lens flair.)

Fun games you guys... NOT!

[Plagasx]

Now...All we need is Mirror's Edge 2 powered by Frostbite 2.0!