PS3 + Vita to Compete with Wii U's Tech

"The PlayStation Vita is finally available in all three major regions and with hardcore gamers seeking a gaming experience they can take on the go, there is no better device out there."

-TheGamerAccess.com

[AndrewE]

Tastes like skyrim!

[LX-General-Kaos]

The tech in the Nintendo Wii U will not be in any type of competition with the PS3 and a newly purchased Vita. This is all wishful thinking from someone or a group of people who probably came back from the store today smiling with a new vita purchase.

The thing that will compute with the Nintendo Wii U is a shiny new PS4 with their own tablet controller.

[LX-General-Kaos]

This video is more proof that they are nothing alike. The Nintendo Wii U controller is the next gen version of simple remote play.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[mechanicleman]

@Dante 112

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

thats a better example.

[MaxXAttaxX]

Except the Wii U controller is only single-touch and can't be used away from your TV/room.

Sometimes I wish Nintendo would stop with the gimmicks or at least make it OPTIONAL so I can play my games in peace without having to move around or look at two different screens....

[SilentNegotiator]

"Except the Wii U controller is only single-touch"

Wait....SERIOUSLY? That is freaking WEAK. How can you have a single touch screen in the year 2012?

[N4g_null]

Nat that is what the 3ds is for??? Monster hunter looks great on it to! And you don't need multi touch because you will be using blind motions on this controller while using the buttons, multi touch is weak and cumbersome it's almost a gimmic when trying to play a real game. What's better than multi touch z tracking and motion tracking. Which this thing has front and back. What is even sadder is a 3ds and wii u gives you two controllers and one you can take with you at a cheaper price almost and I can play old games. Plus we are talking about 15 fps verses 60 lol.

[SonyNGP]

Too bad the quality you get from remote play is crap. Halved framerate, average quality and input lag? No thanks.

[Dante112]

The games and features I remote played with the Vita worked pretty damn good.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[guitarded77]

How dare you use things like proof!!!

Anyway, I expect better compatibility with more features between the PS4 and Vita.

[N4g_null]

Nice vid but where are the games that interact with the tv screen? This is only half the cow and the lame it will be in an update sounds like Sony is over promising again.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

Yeah I use to think that PS3-Vita could rival Wii U. Even though the Wii U isn't out yet, I doubt the quality of remote play would come close to rivaling Wii U.

PS4+Vita might be able to do it though.

[kneon]

Remote play is not really important here, that's not what the Wii U is about.

The controller will typically show different content than on the TV. Sure they could use it essentially as a second screen for a second player but that's not very interesting.

Because the Vita is a console in it's own right that is far more powerful than the Wii U controller it can run a significant workload locally without taxing the PS3.

[farhad2k8]

My remote play games also worked really well. It can easily compete against the Wii-U, but I like them separately for their own reasons!

I haven't put the VITA down ONCE since I got it, and my bank balance doesn't like it one bit! :P

[gamingisnotacrime]

Your bank balace cam suck it
The vita is awesome
What ga,es you playing?

[sikbeta]

To bad this is not going anywhere, I mean, as cool as it sounds, for the complete userbase of the PS3, just a tiny percentage of them will buy a Vita...

At Least with the Wii-U, the ipad-controller comes with the console, so all people will use it...

[kneon]

Yup, that is the real issue here. The Wii motion control would never have taken off like it did if it wasn't shipped with every Wii.

So while the Vita is more powerful than the Wii U controller and could be used for more things I doubt we will see it used in that manner very often. Unless of course it sells like crazy.

On the other hand if the Wii U ships at something like $450 or more then Sony could release a PS3+vita bundle for $400 or less as the cost of both will have come down by then.

[mechanicleman]

All you have to do is have the PS VITA and you get a Wii-U like experience

[DrRichtofen]

It does remote play for BF3 pretty good

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Even Red Dead

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I just wish sony would make this possible, without the CFW. But if people can hack it to play ps3 games from remote play I'm sure sony could program it.

[Titanz]

Wait until the Wii U launches to judge.

[Dante112]

I agree, way too early. Lmao at the sudden dislikes in that youtube video I linked. That wasn't even my video XD.

[Yangus]

100%
Agree

Wii U ONE system and better hardware!

[THESONYPS3]

The Wii u sucks.

[Iceman X]

Remote play is nothing new it was in the PSP and the quality of remote of entirely based on your internet connection from A - the house the Ps3 is in and B - the internet connection where you are remote playing from. Modem/router needs to be configured also to get the best out of remote play. So to the guys that said input lag etc go do more research to figure out your problem.

[Knight_Cid]

Except the wii u is one system

Am I going to spend close to 600 dollars for a ps3 vita combo that really wont be as good because of lag?

not to mention there was a list out there of 50 things the wii u can do that this combo cant

[GribbleGrunger]

no. if you're one of the 62 million PS3 owners, you only have to buy the Vita. that's a big market for devs to overlook in my opinion and if Sony aren't already approaching devs and asking them to make the Vita/PS3 combo version of any WiiU games their making, then that would be a big oversight on Sony's part.

if i was a dev i'd want to get as much out of releasing a new game as i could. there will probably be at least 2 million owners of both the PS3 and the Vita when the WiiU releases... so it seems stupid to release to an audience of less than a million when you could cover your losses by releasing it to those duel owners. surely that is obvious?

[Knight_Cid]

And are you saying all 62 million ps3 owners are buying vitas buy the time the wii u launches?

Not to MENTION IT CANT BE DONE. Not that it wont. It cant. The vita was not designed to be a second screen for ps3 games. Secondly. What dev is going to go through that hassle.

A feature is one thing. But when thats the entire console. Thats another thing

[--Onilink--]

an extra feature is never going to properly compete with a console whose whole purpose revolves around that concept, sure a couple of games might come out that uses the tech well, but most developers wont care (like with move or kinect)

Even more if you take into account that consumers would have to buy 2 consoles for a feature that might not be used that much....

so my guess is that if they really wanted to do it, it would be with the PS4, a fresh start, a controller thats almost like a vita, so that way consumers who already have a vita can ALSO use it as a controller, kinda like Nintendo have said they are thinking of doing with the 3DS

[Honky Kong]

It wont be the same...

[Garbage_sells_Nyc]

Too bad wii u wnt be as powerfull as ppl believe and wont be worth the hype. Wii was pure trash imo and sold millions and was outdated tech upon release compared to other systems keep thinking wii u will be much diff lol That business model has made nintendo millions (cheap gimmicky well priced tech) i dnt see them straying frm tht. Sure itll ply cartoony games great but dnt be surprised whenbgames dnt look better thn ps3 and xbox.

[PCE]

Too bad schools don't teach students how to write in proper English anymore. Education is declining, just like everything else.

[GribbleGrunger]

'It is too bad that schools...' or did you actually mean schools are bad?

[GribbleGrunger]

double post

[SAE]

true , the schools are bad not us , they teach us how to write the same paragraphs for 6 years !! xD

it's not my fault that im sucks at another language

if the rulers are killing/stealing/hunger/tortur e us why would they bother to upgrade the schools ?.. they only makes the schools worst , this year is the worst year in shool ever to me , every year it's getting worst...

[SilentNegotiator]

Maybe you're schools over their, but mine school is top notches!

People typing with poor grammar is HARDLY an indication of the quality of schools.

[Rainstorm81]

To all the people saying it wont be the same, it wont be as good etc....... How about we wait till the PS3/Vita implementation is up and running and until the Wii U is released

Only then can we make any valid comparision.... Right now it can only end in a flamebait / pointless fanboy pissing contest.

Also As people said above the biggest barrier to this comparison is the fact you need to buy two devices compared to everything being in Box with the Wii U

[Hicken]

Here we go. Some FULL reason.

There's no reason why the Vita/PS3 or Vita/PS4 combo won't be able to do what the Wii U can do. But it'll be quite some time before we know who can do it better.

There IS the obstacle of buying two devices, but there is also the truth that the Vita is aimed at current PS3 owners; if we're going the PS3/Vita route, they then only have one system to buy, which is all but assured to be cheaper than the Wii U.

If we're going with the Vita/PS4 combo, however, it's two systems that will most likely run you more than the Wii U. The upside is that this combo is more versatile, but that's a secondary issue here.

[N4g_null]

Do you remember how move requires lower or less demanding game play and visuals because the ps3 has to process the motion controls also? Playing on a small screen is one thing yet interacting with a bigger one is way way more tricky since the wiiu is going to have more ram and power with out needed an up date.

You guys are also forgetting that the 3ds can do this also with a 3d screen. There won't be any lag no any need to play with your router or wait for it to sync. You won't even need a router. And it's instant and truly interactive. Plus it will be supported by all developers.

[Garbage_sells_Nyc]

By the way the vita is in a league of its own im loving mine and on the train continously get compliments on how awesome the games look. Remote play between vita and ps3 will be as good as Sony wants it to be thy are holding back on pushing remote play further for busindss reason bcus weve all seen how good remote ply can really be between the two in several videos prior to vita release and by hackers as well

[jacen100]

who wants to play a ps3 when the wiiU arrives with allot more power it will wipe the floor with ps3 , so no i think it cant compete

[MysticStrummer]

Congrats, Nintendo fan. Nintendo is about to finally enter the current generation. Mario at high resolution is still Mario, and the same goes for all the usual suspect Nintendo exclusives. If you're a fan of those games I'm sure that excites you. For me it means absolutely nothing. Whether Vita+PS3 can match Wii U tech or not is irrelevant to me, because the games I want are on PS3 anyway and Vita is a better, more portable device all by itself. The preceding statements are my opinion and are not necessarily representative of the opinion of anyone else living or dead.

[NatureOfLogic]

So, doesn't change the fact that It will still be more powerful than the PS3. I'm no Nintendo fanboy, but facts are facts.

[mamotte]

Generations are about when you or something start to exist. If your grandma learn hot wo use internet to it's fullest, she's from your generation now?

The word "generation" is the most used here, yet is always wrong.

[jacen100]

so what if im a nintendo fan i have owned all consoles , im excited to see a nintendo hd console like allot of people are and its a no brainer that its gonna wipe the floor with the ps3 going by rumoured specs and what developers are saying, and it wont just be nintendo exclusives that we are gonna see we are gonna see all the big titles with visuals that has not yet been seen on any console and enhanced gameplay with the second screen
"@ BELOW"
gotta love the fanboys just cant accept that a nintendo console is gonna finally outspec and outclass sony lol

[SAE]

what you say is a fact but the games are more importent , pc is the most powerfull but im not buying one because it doesn't have games like ps3 , it's about the games

[Garbage_sells_Nyc]

lol yeah itll wipe the floor like the wii did after it released a year after xbox and after or during ps3. Keep dreaming and enjoy your skylander and cartoony games lol I knw alot of ppl tht used their wii after to wipe the floor your absolutely right and we wnt even mention what the next ps will do lol

[Rainstorm81]

Really? Wipe the floor with it ? How many games have you seen ? The Wii U Zelda or Wii U mario? Or are you just making baseless claims?

Nintendo doesnt really chase "power" so we will need to see what it can do before anyone can praise or condemn the Wii U

Also it SHOULD wipe the floor with it because its a "Next gen" console but it being nintendo the main focus will be the tablet like controller with current gen maybe a lil sharper graphics

[GraveLord]

Devs will never make use of it. I mean how many people will own a Vita and a PS3?

[SephirothX21]

We can already control our consoles with a device. You might have heard of it. Its called a controller. Next they'll have a tablet controlling a tablet controlling another tablet controlling the first tablet controlling a console! We'll all be high on tablets!

[frankiebeans]

I will buy a vita if they make it like a wiiu because i really think that wiiu stuff looks really fun but if they did it i would buy a vita over a wiiu.

[Octo1]

Yeah I can't see this happening either. I mean the whole using the PSP as a rear view mirror never happened. It will be up to the developer and I am sorry I don't see it happening. I mean its already happening now. The PS3 can use a mouse and keyboard but not a lot of developers are taking advantage of it. Its a shame really.
I seem to also recall Sony on and E3 presentation wanting the PSP to be another controller for the PS3 prior to the PS3 being released which got me excited. That never happened. I guess we know that now as "remote play"?? :S

[joeorc]

if you think it's just for the PSVita only..Well Sony is investing into the mobile space for remote play an crossplatform play.

example: TGS keynote 2011

"A brief demo of a basic sidescrolling shooter, named "Zero Gravity," was also shown, demonstrating the cross play between PlayStation Vita and the Xperia Play. Unfortunately, no price or exact date was given for access to the SDK, but Sony reps did demonstrate the ease of using the SDK for cross-platform development."

http://www.joystiq.com/2011...

[2EHO]

I can't wait until after E3. A lot of eople on this site is going to be surprised.

[DEEBO]

This is my first time i ever made a comment but i been using this site back when 360 came out in 06.funny to see the fanboy war still going strong .but back to the topic,i can see the ps3 doing alot of things like wiiu but like other people pointed out developer's will not use the ps3 and vita features.sony has to be the ones to show what their system can do.like the mlb advertising on the tv.remote play,cross gaming and hopefully they use the vita like a controller.e3 will be here soon so i expect to hear some good news.Still i can't wait for the wiiu. Oh and this post was all from my 3g vita. I love technology'

[mamotte]

I dont see it happening. Not because it cant be done (because it can be done, I suppose) but no developer will take the risk to do it.

The big difference is the same difference that make the wii the real motion control console, and the PS move a toy gathering dust: The wii is mandatory, the move is an option. And the few games made with the label "to play with PS Move only" didnt sell well. Same here.

The use of two screens will be mandatory with WiiU, and the console is made to work that way, forcing developers to use that technology right. But no developer will be risky enough to make a game and sell it under a "to use with ps3+vita only" label. The fusion will happen, but it wont do nothing more than show some menus and maps, like the GBA + Gamecube did in the old days. And no, those games didnt sell well.

[Iceman X]

1 thing here people are forgetting Remote play can be done from ANYWHERE out your house, Wii U can only do it in same home lol. It's kool on my last job i remote played ALOT of anime just fine. Something you can't do with Wii U.

[IHateYouFanboys]

the problem with the PS3 + Vita is that there wasnt even a SINGLE original PSP game that was used IN CONJUNCTION with the PS3.

Remote Play is NOT what the Wii-U offers. Remote play doesnt let you use the PS3 and Vita/PSP together, it just lets you use the PSP to remotely control the PS3 - you dont get a different image on the PS3 and PSP/Vita, one is just a reflection of the other.

the Wii-U games have different things displayed on both the TV screen and the controller screen. this was HINTED at waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back before the original PSP launched, using the PSP as a rear vision mirror for an F1 game, but alas nothing ever came of it. not a single game in existence used the PSP as a secondary control/screen for a PS3 game.

will this change with the Vita? well going by sonys track record youd say no, not likely.

[TheDivine]

True the wii-u is basically a console version of the ds/3ds. One main screen for action and one for menus, touch, controls, exc. Im excited because that btought alot of innovative and creative games not possible anywhere else. The vita/ps3 combo is awesome but a totally different beast. Im looking forward to more coss play with that, the vita bieng used as a splitscreen controller possibly, remote play (if sony ever really supports it), and buying one game to play on ps3 and taking it on the go with the vita. Basically vita/ps3 wont go anywhere unless sony makes remote play madatory and makes all first party vita games playable on ps3 possibly through the vita to make sure people buy a vita to play it (reverse remote play).

Lots of cool possibilities though, cant wait for next gen to come the vita and 3ds have me itching for the wii-u and ps4.

[SandwichHammock]

I looked through the comments and no one mentioned this: When WiiU comes out and it starts getting the same games that come out on PS3 and 360, there will be a push to include features that will take advantage of that "controller" setup with a screen. I wouldn't be surprised if a game like Ghost Recon that uses the tablet controller of the WiiU to display stuff, will have the same feature available on the PS3/Vita combo.

As tough as it is to swallow by some in the Nintendo crowd, everything that is done (shown so far) on the WiiU due to its special controller, can be done with a PS3/PSV setup.

[LX-General-Kaos]

So can the PSV/PS3 combo do this?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Right now You seem like someone that is trying to downplay the Nintendo Wii U with pretty much false wishes and claims that sony can do it too. This time my friend sony cant do it too.

When Sony copies the Wii U controller with the PS4 dont be afraid to come back here and apologize to the people. Claiming the Vita can do what the Wii U can do.

[ZippyZapper]

$1000 for two devices and $300+ on PS3/Vita/Move accessories. Just to play what a what a Wii U can out of the box. Seriously?

[Crillvirus81]

Sony fans wish that this was true lol when the wii u comes out both ms and soly fans will be pretty mad that there fav game company didn't think off it first lol

[matey]

your forgetting the biggest problem WiiU is about 10x the power of ps3.

and its 1080p/60fps+

[PirateThom]

[Citation Needed]

Again, no one knows anything about Wii-U. Rumours and speculation doesn't make 10x the power of PS3 a fact.

[N4g_null]

The CPU along does lol. We all know it's not using an old rsx. LoL. We also know that Zelda demo would have ran like 15 fps or less on the ps3. Which big Sony game ran at 60fps? Uncharted? Gow? Face it the ps3 is old news man.

[Sorrow24]

My own speculation is that Nintendo Stocks dropped, last year, because their investors thought the same thing. This Vita thing, is portable and it can do what the Wii-U can do.

Remember when Nintendo dropped the price and then added another analog stick within like 3 months of releasing the 3DS? I'm pretty sure they didn't see the Vita coming.

But what do I know anyway.

[Ck1x]

Yeah I don't think Nintendo's stock dropped because they feared the PS3 and vita could do something similar. I'm pretty sure that at the time it had more to do with the 3ds' rocky start and the poor unveiling of information for the WiiU Nintendo gave, that seems like the most logical explanation in this case. If Nintendo stock just drops at will every time they do something out of the box or unfounded, they would have been out of business a long time ago...

[Sorrow24]

Very True.

[Ck1x]

Its not even E3 yet and people are talking like they know everything about the WiiU. Why is the processing power even being compared to each other, these systems aren't even in the same league of capabilities ! If people cannot seem to grasp the concept that hands down the WiiU will be more advanced with its GPU and CPU, then these kind of articles just need to cease from existing. Remote Play once again will never be as seamless as the WiiU, since it receives all of its information from the base system. Everyone that has played the demos states there's no lag or loading of information at all, so why is this being down played in the hopes that Vita will provide the same functions for the PS3...

[SAE]

im only gonna buy vita when they improve the remote to make me satisfied with the feature , it's importent to me , im gonna hide money for it until the perfect time for me

[Conzul]

Wow....did the Ps3 just reach over from the grave and kick Wii's ass? According to this article it might have!

[stragomccloud]

And all you have to do is buy a PSVita?!

And interfacing 3DS with Wii U will be like interfacing PS3/4 with PSV....

Will people stop writing these things?

Using PSV with PS3/4 will be like interfacing GBAs with Gamecube. It's all good on paper... but how often will this feature actually be used?

With Wii U, every system out box has the screen controller so you know it'll be supported...

Just sayin'...

[joeorc]

http://corp.playphone.com/p...

notice something?

here:
GFACE aims to open up cross-platform gaming with a social networking twist.

http://www.imore.com/2012/0...

the Trend in crossplatform play is not just Nintendo an Sony the gaming crossplatform movement in the mobile space has been developing along the way for several years now.

see for your self

http://www.gdconf.com/confe...

here another reason:

Sir Howard added that Sony was not going to be “proprietary” about the business – so the Sony Entertainment Network, offering those films and albums, will be available across compatible devices, whether they are made by Sony or not. This is in marked contrast to Apple’s approach, and it means that consumers might see, for instance, a Sony phone bundled with a Sony TV because now it can also act both as a remote control, an MP3 player and a portable cinema.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/...

please note:

That means one team, led by Sony’s Kazuo Hirai, that will be able to focus on Sony’s ultimate ambition to deliver content, whether it’s movies or music, across devices, from phones to tablets to TVs and computers.

Playstation Suite

does such crossplatform play an remote access to connected devices.