Casually Hardcore takes a look at Nintendos releases and finds out that Mario has appeared in over 170 video games. With no new characters since 2001's Pikmin are Nintendo relying on their franchises too much?
Nintendo has had 150 new ips, since 2000 and this is a hypocrite article microsoft doesnt rely on halo? sony with uncharted SQUARE WITH FF, ACTIVISION WITH COD franchises xenoblade isnt new for nintendo?
Its not hypocritical because whilst the other companies are probably just as bad they have released new characters. Microsoft (or projects they exclusively published) have created a whole bunch from Viva Pinata to Alan Wake, the same with Sony with Modnation Racers and Uncharted etc. Whilst Nintendo may have new IPs you'd be hard pushed to name one brand new major character Nintendo have created since Pikmin. We certainly can't think of one. I wouldn't call the cast of Xenoblade major characters, not in the same way as Mario or Zelda etc. At least not yet.
it is hypocritical. Microsoft hasnt created as many new ips in the last 10 years as nintendo. Peiod. Same with sony And guess whose sold the most hardware and software in the ;last 10 years.........that would be nintendo. Its funny you say to name major characters, and then youself name them but say they dont count for some insane reason hypocrite.
Sakura samurai. Pushmo.
I'm pretty sure the "mii" itself are the most recognizable characters this gen
wow, such an angry person. Most of Nintendo's new IP are crappy shovelware. And new IP like the Conduit sold like crap. Last I checked the conduit 2 sold a pathetic 200K. Their other so call hardcore title didn't sell well too.
lol The Conduit isn't a Nintendo IP.
The Conduit is not Nintendo. Pikmin, Pushmo and Sakura Samurai are. And by the way, the second and third game I mentioned made the top of the eShop charts. Shovelware my ass.
People who believe Nintendo's only about Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon, needs a reality check.
Actually Sony doesn't rely on Uncharted. They have many more IPs they release and market. God of War, LittleBigplanet, Gran Turismo, Killzone, Resistance...etc. I'm sure I missed about a dozen. Sony has a lot of NEW IP's this gen. How many good NEW IPs does Nintendo have? Leave out the Wii Fit and all that jazz. That's right, NONE. It's all casual garbage(IMO) Do your research next time before lumping Sony right there with Microsoft. Sony actually cares about releasing a wide variety of AAA games. I can't say the same from Microsoft.
its a shame none of sony's NEW ips, sell or move systems.......... xenoblade isnt new? dont comment if you dont know what your talking about You telling someone to research is like a child telling someone to get a job.
just to let uno unchared and sony games dont even sell that well o0 and lest be honest whos gona reeber drake in 20 years not me
Why did you compare sony to microsoft in a nintendo discussion? How is sony doing when compared to nintendo?
dont respond to me and then block me. Its childish. But you are a troll -Uncharted - a good game, the last vita game is flopping. -InFamous - generic, game doesnt sell well -LittleBigPlanet - generic, game doesnt slel well -Heavy Rain(sold extremely well for a niche game) - had nothing to do with sony. -Modnation Racers(not quite at 1 mil but is getting there) - The series has officially been killed off because really it was generic -Resistance(Insomniac made the games but Sony owns the IP) - The series has been killed off, The series has sold so bad and is so bad insomniac wants nothing to do with it Upcoming -The Last of Us - generic -The Last Guardian - shovelware 11 disagrees huh, you are so off the chart suck
I could care less about what he said up there. I'm just gonna focus on YOUR ignorance. Uncharted: great series, the Vita version has barely fucking come out. The Vita has barely fucking come out. Seriously. inFamous: Generic how? Only games similar are Crackdown and Prototype, and it's leagues better than either. By the way, the inFamous series is averaging something like 2+ million a pop. Guess that's not selling well. LittleBig Planet: See above. Then see a dictionary for the definition of "generic," which neither LBP title fits. Heavy Rain: an exclusive, regardless, to the PS3. Guess the PS3 has nothing to do with Sony, though. Modnation: actually sold the LEAST out of anything on this list; "canceled" to consolidate with LittleBig, with which it shares core concepts (massive levels of customization and creative freedom for the player; that, by the way, is exceedingly rare, and thus on the opposite end of the spectrum from "generic"). Resistance 3: Did better than the last game (or at least is slated to) and had to contend with longtime fans not being certain about how this title would fair after disliking the last one(think Xenosaga... though you probably haven't even played Jenseits). Killed off like Halo, right? Cuz the dev wanted to do something else, that means the franchise they've been working on is killed off. The Last of Us: Based on Naughty Dog's pedigree (see what I did there?), stands a very good chance of being a great game. The Last Guardian: See above, only with a different team. You've got the nerve to call someone else a troll, and then spout bullshit like this? I'd block your ass, too. I mean, come on. I know ten year-olds who could see how ignorant this is. Did he have any place bringing MS into the equation? None whatsoever. But that gives you ZERO license to essentially MAKE SHIT UP about a bunch of games you've apparently never played before.
More than ever, they just rely on Mario's name to get them out of a rut. "3DS failing? Get Mario Kart 7 and Super Mario 3D out there, on the double!" Nintendo can be experimental, but mostly within the confines of an already successful franchise, like say Skyward Sword's heavy emphasis on all things motion control. But if you don't care one jolt about Mario or Zelda or Metroid or Donkey Kong...then you're pretty much screwed. They need to create more IPs.
The fact that they launched the 3ds without them in the first place says the opposite. Sony wouldn't even do that with the vita.
DKCR was the first console DK game in well over 10 years, and you already want them to axe it??? If anything, just like DK, Nintendo needs to revive long-forgotten franchises as they have a sh!tload up their arse.
They need to come up with some new IPs, but I like their current classics. Their pokemons, their marios, their zeldas.
mario,mario,zelda and mario finally mario
I would agree that they rely too much on Mario, which was ok when I was a pre-teen in the early 80s, but 201 titles featuring Mario since 1981 can get a little irritating.
Although I agree that they rely on Mario a lot, I don't blame them. He still pumps $$$$ and the games are still top notch. I cant blame Nintendo that I grew up and out if their target audience ....I don't hate on the power rangers because they don't put out more mature series'.
That's all Nintendo really got going for themselves, every new console/handheld they recycle through their franchise. While many nintendo fanboy think that this copy and paste tactic they use with their franchise is enough, real gamers don't see it that way. They're all colorful kids games so nintendo do that to lure in the next gen of little kids, since nintendo's fanbase are little kids and soccer moms Nintendo is a company that caters to kids and moms, little girls, and grandparents. This is nintendo's fanbase, this is why shovelware (like imagine pony) sell better than hardcore titles on nintendo's console/handheld. This is why developer make shovelware for Nintendo.
please stop speaking out of your butt. What nintendo has going on there handhelds is the most third party support on any system usually in the entire gen. And they have stellar entries in there first party and then they make new deals You think layton or inazuma eleven was all level 5? Who do you think took a chance on dragon quest and brought over alot of the games? What you call recycle, I call making new entries that "real gamers want to buy" So your telling me that the fact that the 3ds sold more systems in 2011 than anyone else was due to non gamers? really? your going to be so stupid? was dk returns a kids game? was new super mario bros? was donkey kong? was fire emblem? There fanbase is EVERYONE. Which is why every year they sell the most software and handware. please dont fall into the trap of saying dumb things that arent true on n4g.
You do realize that Nintendo existed for more than 20 years BEFORE the Wii right?
lol Sony/ex-Sega fanboys are funny
"Nintendo is a company that caters to kids and moms, little girls, and grandparents." That's why Smash Bros. Melee and Brawl were rated T and why Nintendo personally licensed Resident Evil 4 TWICE, right?
what's wrong with mario, zelda, metroid etc ? look at the mario galaxy games. they have more charm and personality than most other games with " HD ". if they didn't give mario and zelda, people would complain there is no mario or zelda. ninty unlike sony and microshaft actually focus on gameplay and not try turning their franchises into wannabe movies.
Does Nintendo rely to much on franchises? NO. When a game comes out that is selling five or ten million copies plus, every time it's put out they must be doing something right. It doesn't matter if it's Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony, Capcom, Ubisot, Apple, Coke, Pepsi, etc. If you don't like their games so much stop buying them and S.T.F.U.
yes nintendo relies WAAAAAAY to much on it. i mean seeing a new zelda metroid and mario is great, but something new would be nice. and i mean by NINTENDO. not by monolith or Mistwalker, NINTENDO. but i dont think they have much creativity left. not that many devs this gen do but i mean releasing 1-2 zelda's marios, metroids a year followed by the mandatory smash bros, mario parrty, mario cart and animal crossing, its pretty sad. i mean maybe if wii wasnt getting ditched within its first 5 years and having the wii u already then maybe you would miss the above said games. but with wii-u comes another smash bros, mario kart, animal crossing etc. and i hate COD so plz dont bring that up
Sakura samurai. Pushmo. Kid icarus isn't completely new, but it is certainly different and fresh.
Sure, as long as you don't count games from Naughty Dog and and team-ICO as purely Sony-created IPs. I get the feeling that you won't do that though.
Off the top of my head...Animal Crossing, Brain Age, Xenoblade, Golden Sun, Drill Dozer, Nintendogs are all top notch games in their own respects and 2001 or later and new ip , even the Mii itself isil somewhat iconic now.....I disagree with your article and feel it was written ignorantly. Also woukd you rather be dependent on third party ips that you have little to no control over nor a competitive advantag or first party ip?
But the Miis are not a game. Same as Whu Hu island. You might as well list Pokemons if you're going to include Miis. Animal crossing was originally an N64 game. Im not saying Nintendo should quit games, but it seems like half the people here agree with the article in that Nintendo need some new original characters and franchises instead of relying on the same 5 franchies over and over again. I love the Mario Galaxy games and i wouldn't change them for anything but The Wii alone has had more Mario platform games in 2 years than the Snes got in a whole generation.
The Miis have formed their own lineup of games with the "Wii" titles. Wii Sports, Wii Play and Wii Sports Resort for example. Nintendo does not need new characters. They simply need some focus on some of the ones that are dormant at the moment. New Star Fox, F-Zero, Pikmin and Mother. Until then, I don't want to see a great deal of original material from them. And even then, they are still publishing new IPs, particularly on the eShop. Pushmo and Sakura Samruai are big examples.
Of course. I don't see how anybody can logically say that they don't. Nintendo doesn't have the luxury of relying on third party games like Microsoft. They haven't gotten a steady flow of multiplats in years so they have to rely on their franchises. Hell, I've seen Nintendo fans themselves criticize other Nintendo fans for not buying any of the other third party games available on the Wii. They only buy the next Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc. If that mentality stays during the Wii U, Nintendo would have a major problem IMO.
Yes it's what is keeping them afloat on all these disappointing hardware upgrades.
And every game of those franchises is awesome, so what's the problem then? If you dont like'em, you can always look everywhere. Plus, that applies to Bungie, Activision, Capcom, Square, and almost every company. There are only a few that plays unsafe with new IP every time, like Platinum Games or Grasshopper. Dont act like sequels are new in this world.
Surely, it's whatever brings home the bacon. They do it because so many gamers love and buy it, just like what Activsion does with COD or MS with Halo or Sony with.....? lol
Question is this? The answer is no more than any other video game maker.
Is there such thing? Let's be glad Nintendo has so many franchises to rely on, same for Sony. This is why we have a problem with Microsoft right now, no first-party games. I remember an article not too long ago that was basically the same as this, except it applied to Sony. "Does Sony rely on exclusives too much?" or something like that, and the same people I see in here bashing Nintendo for relying on their exclusives said that it's fine for Sony. The hypocrisy and fickleness of this site is astounding.
I think you mean "Does Nintendo rely too much on their franchises?". Does McDonald's rely too much on their Big Macs and french fries? What a stupid question. Aren't business suppose to rely on what makes them money? Articles like this assume that most people don't want to keep playing Mario and Zelda. Believe it, or not, if people were not buying these games... then Nintendo would not be making them (I really cannot put that any simpler). Too much Zelda you say? I seem to remember waiting 5+ years since Twilight Princess for the next Zelda entry... I guess that that was too soon for the author. As for "new" exclusive ips, I recommend Xenoblade Chronicles. If that's not your cup of tea try Red Steel 2 or Muramasa The Demon Blade. Oh and don't forget the Bit.Trip saga! The "new" exclusive ips that you mention are right in front of your face. Just because these games were overshadowed does not erase them from existence.
Nintendo has plenty of games besides mario and zelda. Im not going to leave a long list because people that did the homework would understand. And thats all that matters.
I admit, I'm guilty of only buying Mario, Zelda, Metroid, DKC, Pokemon, Pikmin, Kirby, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Wii Sports, Xenoblade, Animal Crossing, WarioWare myself.... Oh wait that's a crap load of Nintendo IP's isn't it? Third party support is just gravy at this point for Nintendo money-wise. I personally really hope they get it next gen, but they have won the console war sales wise this gen with their system being dead for basically a year. Do you realize how impressive that is for Nintendo themselves to make all these first party titles?
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