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Think Nintendo is behind the times with online.....think again !

This article goes in depth about how Nintendo has been trying to impliment online in all its home consoles dating back to the original Famicom (NES). Nintendo actually tried its best years ago to start its own online network but hit many barricades along the way. So today's gamers see Nintendo as being behind the times when it comes to online, but in reality they were way ahead of everyone!

LX-General-Kaos4886d ago

Nintendo is always ahead.. even when they dont look to be or given credit for.

PSVITAlitysensor4886d ago (Edited 4886d ago )

Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gunpei Yokoi, Shigeru Miyamoto, Koji Kondo, Satoshi Tajiri...

Great minds work (have worked) at Nintendo.

BrutallyBlunt4885d ago (Edited 4885d ago )

What a waste of writing. They can elaborate the entire history of Nintendo if they want to but it's meaningless if it was never put into action. Yes Nintendo is telling everyone they are going to be more serious when it comes to online but i will believe it when i see it.

Nintendo cares about Nintendo and will continue to support their products as THEY see fit, NOT what the actual consumers want. Nintendo will also not invest like Microsoft, Valve and even Sony have.

PopRocks3594885d ago

@LevelHead

Motion control is a norm now because of Nintendo. Nintendo always gives us what we think is cool, even if we don't really know we want it.

saladthieves4885d ago

@PopCocks359

I wouldn't call it a norm, more like a short term trend. The casual market usually goes with what's popular today, and that causes a shift in the trend. They've discovered that their iPads can play simple games costing a mere fraction of what Nintendo's Wii was offering - the end result is they can take the fun with them wherever they go, and get more anytime, anywhere.

@LevelHead

I agree. People buy Nintendo products to pretty much play Nintendo games. In my opinion, Nintendo relies a bit too much on their 1st party games. I'm not saying that it's a bad thing, but it means that there could be a limited variety of content, which would explain why 3rd party support tends to be lacking. Simply put, Nintendo games sell best on Nintendo products.

ChickeyCantor4885d ago (Edited 4885d ago )

"I agree. People buy Nintendo products to pretty much play Nintendo games"

That is only valid because of quirks Nintendo had.

Back with the NES/SNES the library was flooded with tons of games and everyone loved it.
With n64 there was only a handful of great games. Developers flooded to the PSx
GameCube fell in the mindset of being "kiddy".
Wii was "underpowered" and couldn't support most multiplat games.

It's not that people don't want to buy other games on a Nintendo console other than Nintendo games. It's the fact that people always have something to complain about.

The biggest problem is Third party support.

For the sake of the argument, if Nintendo did have the exact same features as the PS3 and 360. Why would I not buy other games beside the Nintendo franchises?

The need for a different console beside the wii was simply because some games weren't offered on it. In a different case I wouldn't see why I would buy a 360 or PS3...other than for the exclusives.

So with that in mind...I only got a PS3/360 for the exclusives. How is that different than one getting a Nintendo for the exclusives?

sikbeta4885d ago

@PopRocks359

Motion-controls are not "a norm" if that was the case, Wii-U would come with an upgraded wii-mote or something like that instead of releasing with a new tablet-controller

O-T

Whatever, need to see it first...

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dark-hollow4885d ago

Nintendo was always high tech with their technology I don't know why they get that rep for being cost effective and low tech for their condoles.
Besides the wii, all their consoles were very powerful.

Nes, snes, n64 and gamecube were all pretty powerful.
I know people will point their fingers at the Ds, 3ds but those are handhelds and Nintendo thinks that handhelds are their own experience and doesn't need to compete with consoles in term of graphics.

But they sure need to upgrade their online network tho.

yabhero4885d ago

The 3DS isn;t as powerful as the vita but its till a pretty big jump from the DS and PSP... just look at Resi on the 3DS.

dedicatedtogamers4885d ago

No, this is untrue.

The NES was 8-bit architecture coming out during a time when 16 bit and above was the norm. Nintendo's execs (not sure if it was Gunpei Yokoi or maybe Miyamoto) SPECIFICALLY said that they wanted to use off-the-shelf, older hardware in the NES so that it could be inexpensive to buy.

The SNES was one of the LAST 16 bit systems to come out, and while the technology was great, it was already overshadowed by PCs and some consoles. Heck, the SEGA CD (let's set aside the failure of the hardware itself) came out only 1 year after the SNES launched.

N64 was definitely more powerful in many respects, specifically 3D. But it couldn't render 2D as well (partially why Saturn and NeoGeo had all the arcade games) and it had one major flaw: cartridges! The memory for those things was tiny compared to what was available on the CDs for the Saturn and Playstation.

Gamecube? Uhhhh, no. The dang thing couldn't even run a CD. Yes, the graphics were more advanced than the PS2, but it was hardly a "high tech" system.

Arguably, the ONLY "high tech" console Nintendo is doing is the WiiU. Nintendo has pretty much NEVER been on top of the dog pile when it comes to graphics/physics/technology.

hkgamer4885d ago

Depends what you mean by high tech with their technology. Nintendo systems have been releasing their consoles later in the generation than anyone else to keep the costs lower. Nintendo has hardly ever released their console first, with the Wii and Wii U, I guess it shows Nintendo are trying a different route now and no one knows if they will be successful or not.

Nintendo is still behind with online. I don't care what innovative ideas they tried in the past. It just didn't work because technology and peoples lifestyles just wasn't there in the past.

I wouldn't be calling it great if it didn't work out at that time. It's like me saying I would release a machine as powerful as what they have for flight simulators and it will cost a lot. Would that make me innovative or just stupid in the business world?

BlmThug4885d ago

Yaay, Nintendo gave us motion controls /s

Yaay, rats gave us diseases /s

TacoTaru4885d ago

Yaay, and they were copied by...? Sony!!!

Jihaad_cpt4885d ago

LX they were not always ahead with their online experience

LX-General-Kaos4885d ago

Yea thats where we shift credit over to microsoft. Those are the people that paved the way for online console gaming in its finest form.

Biggest4885d ago

Paved the way would imply they started something. Dreamcast paved the way. Microsoft laid the asphalt.

d0nni34885d ago

Nintendo are generally ahead with somethings yea but their problem is they never seem pull anything off to it's full potential. They innovate but never perfect their ideas.

eferreira4885d ago

look at the wii and 3ds online structure. They aren't ahead. I hope the wii-u does better.

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Shok4886d ago

The SNES had online. Not that many people know that. Nintendo had a network going and everything.

mike1up4886d ago

Let me guess, only available in Japan?

Jirachi4886d ago

Good point so did 64 if i recall correctly. Both ideas flopped and that's why nintendo was reluctant to try online with gcn.
online gaming really wasn't popular until after gcn came out and at that point it was too late to add it.

banjadude4885d ago

Did not know that! Hmm, that's pretty neat.
Do you know any games that had online support for it?

Jirachi4885d ago

Yeah there was a few zelda games that had used this(japan only) if you want to know more look up "broadcast satellaview" or "bs zelda"

maniacmayhem4885d ago

Sega had it to, in fact they went one step further and had Sega TV that had OnLive features. It failed too, the world wasn't ready for that back then.

AWBrawler4885d ago

NintEGA (Nintendo and SEGA) paved the way for modern gaming but so many supposed hardcore gamers hate them both now. Oh the hypocrisy.

Biggest4885d ago

How is that hypocrisy? They were the cream of the crop in the 90's. They are no longer the cream of the crop. That is just how it is. This article is supposed to be about online services. There is nothing but bad to talk about in the case of Nintendo (and SEGA) and their online services.

Megaman_nerd4885d ago

that's the point of the article. They say that Nintendo is not behind the time because the Snes supported online.

Has anybody even taken the time to read the article? XD

sonic9894885d ago

At aw brawler well I love sega and Sony very much but I hate Nintendo ( for my reasons ) I don't hate Microsoft cause I respect them as a company
Not that I hate miyamoto or something I just hate there visions and hardware and the fat plumber that's all
And I own a PS3 and a vita ( Japan imported ) so have your say

Mini Mario4883d ago

"I love sega and Sony very much but I hate Nintendo"

Hate is such a harsh word.

Why hate a company that has done so much for gaming. If you wanna "hate" something, hate the way sega has treated their hedgehog the last decade

At least nintendo keeps mario fresh without completely changing it too mch

Mini Mario4883d ago (Edited 4883d ago )

double post - woops

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Titanz4885d ago

In your eyes: Nintendo will always be behind the times.

Your mind is already set on disliking the company as a whole (Nintendo), so it's best for everyone (including yourself) that you refrain from posting on Nintendo related articles.

LX-General-Kaos4885d ago

just ignore the haters and prepare yourself for the wii u as im doing.

Lord_Sloth4885d ago

Implementing a fully functional online into your console 6 years after everybody else has doesn't count as being ahead of the curb.

suicidalblues4885d ago

@ sloth

I think you were going for "ahead of the curve".

user39039994885d ago

They had it all this time??
Than why do they suck at it?

Dannycr4885d ago

The fact that Nintendo has had any sort of Online feature on previous consoles doesn't mean nothing, specially when the online for the 1 console that actually required a good online (Wii) didn't have a robust or even decent online (except for a handful of games like Mario Kart Wii).

Nintendo did fall behind in the online department in this generation, that was obvious, specially comparing it to what XBLA and PSN offers. Hopefully they will revamp the online on the Wii U.

As of today, I have never been able to play a single Super Smash Bros. Brawl online fight, and that was one of the reasons I bought the wii and the game.

PopRocks3594885d ago

Smash Bros.' online 'sorta' works. It's extremely laggy.

If you want decent online Wii games, try Mario Kart Wii, Mario Strikers Charged and Monster Hunter 3.

Dannycr4884d ago

It doesn't work for me... at all, and yeah, as I said, Mario Kart Wii IS perfect in the online department, but playing another game doesn't compensate the inability to play the game that I wanted to play the most.

That's not a solution, not even a workaround, it's just ignoring the problem. I also have a 3DS and so far, I have notice a BIG improvement over the Wii. It now resembles something closer to what XBLA and PSN offer and that is good, but I hope that it keeps growing and that the Wii U will have something on-par with those 2 services.

PopRocks3594882d ago

Agreed. Though I would blame Sakurai as oppose to Nintendo. Brawl was primarily his vision, just as Metroid Other M was Sakamoto's.

If Nintendo Network is any indication, the Wii U will be better. Whether it matches/passes its competition remains to be seen, but we know for sure that it will be better than what Nintendo has on the Wii.

And goddamn it, give me my New Super Mario Bros. and Kirby co-op game with online play.

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While Layoffs Hit the Industry, Nintendo Retains 98% of Staff Including 78 With Disabilities

TNS: Based on its most recent ESG data, Nintendo boasts a remarkably low staff turnover rate of just 1.9%, with virtually no reported layoffs.

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Jin_Sakai10h ago

Because Nintendo makes great games.

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rlow18h ago

Well it doesn’t surprise me. As much money as they make and how they value their employees. It’s a great company in that regard.

Xeus77h ago

Good guy Nintendo
Microsoft and Sony are the bad guys

drivxr4h ago

Well, when your games remain full price many years after release.

And you make profit off of outdated hardware.

I would be shocked if they couldn't afford to retain their staff.

lodossrage2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

I didn't want to say anything but drivxr is right.

Nintendo always sells at a profit because they purposely use tech that's always 5 or more years behind. And it's also true their games hardly ever get price decreases.

Don't get me wrong, it's great they kept most of their workforce, but making a point to have your tech specs behind everyone else affords that luxury.

Shane Kim18m ago(Edited 17m ago)

If they ended up kicking people out after all of that stated above, it would be truly shameful.

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Nintendo Switch 2 sales shatters records, most-sold console in 24-hour period

The Nintendo Switch 2 has set a new record by selling over 3 million units within 24 hours, tripling the PlayStation 4’s previous launch day sales.

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Jin_Sakai21d ago

Crazy. Switch 2 is going to do very well.

darthv7220d ago (Edited 20d ago )

No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.

The number of SW2 specific titles pales in comparison to the variety of SW1 games that get a performance boost right out of the box on this. And like the SX and PS5 before it, you can bet the majority are going to be using it as a means to better enjoy their existing titles that can benefit.

This may have been quick out of the gate... so was the WiiU. I quite enjoy it for what it is, but am keeping my expectations in check.

GenoPurpel20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

The Switch 2’s price point is great and fine and it’s still cheaper than the current gen of consoles aside from the Series S.

The only place I think they will fall short is their software sales, which also in turn may affect the hardware sales but not significantly. Parents will be fine paying for the system for their kids, but one look at an $80-$90 price tag for a single video game, that is where a lot of people will draw the line. Maybe not so much the people who are in the “willing to pay because I buy deluxe editions anyway” crowd, but for parents specifically, more sacrifices are gonna need to be made in their choices of gifts for their kids.

OtterX20d ago

As a parent of 3 with a very modest income, it was very affordable bc I already had an immense library of games, and the Mario Kart bundle came out to only about €50 more than a standard bundle. Both Zeldas were upgraded w Family Expansion Pass that I already had. Many games were upgraded for free. The only additional game I bought was Fast Fusion for 14.99 which was a great purchase!

Killer2020UK20d ago

People seem to forget that the Switch was $299 at launch which in today's money is roughly $400. That makes the Switch 2 a $50 increase when inflation is taken into account compared to the original.

Yes, people have less spending power on average compared to 2017 (Switch launch year) but this is not the MASSIVE price hike that people are making out Nintendo to be doing.

raWfodog20d ago

“No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.”

It could also be many people rushing to buy to avoid any possible tariff hikes in the future, but I think it’s still a good sign that many people still want physical consoles. Congrats to Nintendo! I’m not getting one at this time though (unless I get it for a Xmas present for one of my kids).

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1Victor20d ago

Congratulations Nintendo on finding the happy medium between their weak console and their invincible handheld plus learning from Sony and clearly defining the new console from the old unlike their Wii and Wii U just add a higher number simple yet effective 👍👍

victorMaje21d ago

Are people that keen on $90 games?
Is it true some remasters will also be $90?

DankSinatra20d ago

Tell me you don't research without telling me you don't research.

victorMaje20d ago

Nope. I didn’t research, I don’t own any Nintendo consoles and I had read on here something about $90 games on switch 2, so I guess it’s good now, people can calm down. Have a nice day :)

1nsomniac20d ago

I bought the Switch 2 I won’t be buying games at MK prices. I don’t ever pay over £45 for my games. Even my Nintendo switch exclusives I never paid more than £33 for.

franwex20d ago

I think the typo you put was meant to be $80.
Anyway, the answer to those questions seem to be yes.

victorMaje20d ago

Looks like I’ve been enlightened about the amount. Happy to see it’s not $90.

Sgt_Slaughter19d ago

Don't get your news from clickbait TikTokers/YouTubers, only go to the source (Nintendo) or reliable new outlets like IGN.

No game is $90 on the Switch 2, and they will never go there. Most games will be under $80, too.

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gold_drake21d ago

cool
wasnt expecting it not to sell well

Profchaos21d ago

Its crazy that it's both the highest selling console on day 1 and people can walk into a store and buy it with no pre order

Ashunderfire8620d ago

Yup while I was waiting in line from Best Buy for Switch 2, like I did for Switch 1 back in 2017, every waiting 12am was going to get a Switch 2! I was in the no preorder line too!

My friend manage to get 4 Switch 2s at his GameStop store, that was lowkey not busy at all. Got them all for himself and his family. Super easy to get a Switch 2 over PS5.

Profchaos20d ago

The struggle to get a ps5 was real had mates wait over 2 years for stock i got lucky and got it day 1 but still

Ashunderfire8620d ago

I know and I also struggled getting a preorder for the PS5, when Walmart, Best Buy among other retailers open their preorders a day early before most of us realize it. I got my PS5 launch day thanks to YouTube Live Streamer Jake Randell. He helps people get preorders and launch consoles.

Neonridr19d ago

the PS5 also released during a global pandemic.

Ashunderfire8619d ago

It’s funny how I got disagrees for speaking the truth for what I experienced getting the Switch 2. Nintendo had more copies of Switch 2 than Sony for the PS5.

Don’t be butthurt about this very fact. People on here disagreeing with crazy reasons lol

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hiawa2320d ago

Doesn't that mean Nintendo made sure they had plenty of stock available at retail.

Profchaos20d ago

Yeah it's nice to see they prepped for it

adamwparker20d ago

Yeah, I remember reading an article over two years ago with Nintendo stating that they were going to do all that they could to make sure their next console didn't have the PS5/XBox reseller swiping /no stock fiasco happen to them.

Looks like they made sure production met demand. Refreshing to see that the reseller thing didn't trend and I hope a lot of people who bought multiple units for the sole reason to resell then at $1000 are now stuck with them.

jznrpg20d ago

It also means there isn’t a chip shortage when PS5/Xbox came out during pandemic

gold_drake20d ago

to be where fair, we had a current gen come out during covid ha

repsahj20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I remembered I tried 7 pre-order events during the PS5 launch. I gave up and ended up buying 1 from a scalper. But now, I already secured 1 pre-order Switch 2 unit in my country very easy and without problems.

Neonridr19d ago

kudos to Nintendo for ensuring a healthy amount of stock.

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Terry_B20d ago

Unlike the Switch 2 , the Playstation 4 was not sold on the same day in most regions.

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Nintendo Has Confirmed It Will Be Attending GamesCom 2025

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Obscure_Observer40d ago

Not surprising at all.

I mean, they´ll be releasing a new console in a few weeks.

repsahj39d ago

I hope they show new Switch 2 exclusive games.