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Why Devs Owe You Nothing

Eurogamer: When does a game belong to its fans rather than its creators?

Last week, 10,000 people took to Steam to play Half-Life 2 as part of a gentle protest against Valve's silence on the development of the series' next instalment. It's part of an ongoing campaign that rose from the background noise of forum discontent to deliver an open letter to Valve.

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DA_SHREDDER4873d ago

screw TF2 and screw anyone who wants to bring that mediocre franchise back. Waste of everyones time

Ravenor4872d ago (Edited 4872d ago )

Not sure if serious....

Nothing Mediocre about Half Life though. Not even close, in fact I'm going to go so far as to say that comment is offensively inaccurate.

pandaboy4872d ago

yeah but if it was ps3 exclusive it would be amazing right? we know how you guys roll.

KingPin4872d ago

not all games would be great if they were ps3 exclusive.

i didnt like half life since the first one. i found it boring. i didnt see what the hype was all about. i played half life 2 on the original xbox. apart from the great visuals, the gameplay and story wasnt anything i havent seen before.

i can tell you now, not everyone thinks uncharted series is the bees knees either.

not all games are for everybody.

OT: devz dont owe us a damn thing, thats 100% true. but if devz want their games to sell, they should strike while the iron is hot. thats what Activision are doing with Call of Duty and see how well thats working for them.

Ravenor4872d ago (Edited 4872d ago )

@Kingpin

In 1998 Half Life was more or less unlike anything that had come before, sans some jumping puzzles. At the time it was a masterpiece, and by far one of the best Single Player Shooters available.

So with comments like yours its a touch hard to take serious. Lemme know the other shooters you were playing in 1998 that were leaps and bounds better SP wise. Maybe you can point me to games from 2004 where HUMAN characters didn't emote like there face was half frozen and sounded like a robot or a bad Anime dubber?

Not all games are for everyone, but I have the sense and maturity to be able to see quality and innovation in video games when I see it. Even if I don't like the title.

KingPin4872d ago

@ravenor
you missed the entire point i was trying to make.

by the way, im not saying half-life was a bad game nor am i saying half life 2 sucked balls all im saying is that i personally found it boring and hard to get into. it has nothing to do with maturity but what i am saying is to pandaboy that it shouldn't matter which hardware the game runs on for it to be considered great or not.

pandaboy4872d ago (Edited 4872d ago )

Tell it to Da Shredder, kingpin. You only need to read his comment history to understand what I meant.

KingPin4872d ago

@pandaboy
just did as requested.

My bad bro. But if you gonna be sarcastic, give us a sign.

Ravenor4872d ago

@Kingpin

If you can't see how your response basically runs in circles, I give UP. For the last time, this community has to learn that you can't state something is poor or less then something else without first listing some evidence to support it. You simply can't say "I found Game A boring" and consider that a fully fledged opinion worth sharing. It really isn't.

I played a large portion of what was available on the PC and consoles in 1998 and 2004 and for the most part Half Life 1 & 2 towered above everything else released in those years. You never listed things that you felt were better games, because you can't.

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Dark_Overlord4873d ago (Edited 4873d ago )

There only 1 thing I ask for off devs (make that demand) is that the game f***ing works. All too often nowadays, we get hurried games that run like s*** and barely work, and the only way to actually play them is wait for 6 months and numerous patches >:(

I would love Sony/MS/Nintendo to fine companies for shoddy work, but that will never happen :(

Bigpappy4873d ago (Edited 4873d ago )

Well I agree that everyone should have a working game. Having said that, the developers are in a no win situation. They are able to get their games working on some platforms way before others. Should they release on those that run well and let the other wait, or should they hold their games back, from the period where sales will be maximized, to get it perfect for all and release then? There is pressure from the fans, from maketing, and the publishers. Not everyone can win.

I think in the in the case of Skyrim I would have made the same decission, as it was really just the PS3 where they were having major issues. Fans on other platforms where happy to have the game, even though there were minor bugs. Even some PS3 guy were able to play and enjoy the game. Had they not release on the PS3 with the others, the cry of bias would have been much louder, as PS3 fans refuse to acknowledge that PS3 requires much more effort to have the games run properly. Developers have been saying this for 5 years and yet the base still cries fawl and call them all kinds of names when the performance is not up to par. This is Sony's fault. They made the bad decission to have such a complex console.

PamPoovey4873d ago

Thing with Half life is that Valve has brought it on themselfs, they've consentely trolled and teased us over and over since the cliffhanger in HL2E2, where it's went beyond a joke now...plus it dosen't help when they put other games before HL3, I mean if they announce a new game at E3 this year then HL fans will be ticked off

We at least deserve a screenshot or some infomation on the game. I think this year could be the last chance they have to show something HL related off or the fanbase is really going to get ticked off

CrimsonEngage4872d ago

Why they do-

I pay your bills.

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Valve Makes Up for Steam Deck Repair Delay by Gifting Free Game

Valve gave a user Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 for free as compensation for the long wait during their Steam Deck repair.

UltimateOwnage29d ago

I had a similar experience when I initially pre-ordered my Deck. There was an issue during shipping and they offered me a customer service perk for the hassle and let me pick any game on Steam. It was super nice of them. I got a copy of Rime.

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Interview: CCP Games CEO Talks The New Player Experience and The Future of The EVE Online Universe

Game Rant recently spoke with CCP Games CEO Hilmar Veigar Pétursson, who discussed the future of EVE Online's universe and the new player experience.

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Valve doesn't need to compete with Nintendo Switch 2 right now, suggests poll

There have been plenty of comparisons online between the Steam Deck and Nintendo Switch 2, but does Valve really need to compete?

gold_drake59d ago

i love how people think this would be a fair "fight"

SegaSaturn66959d ago

Steamdeck plays Switch games better than the switch hardware.

I see no reason why this won't continue with the successors. Switch will sell more, sure. But those who game on PC always come out ahead both in enjoyment and value for their money.

Neonridr58d ago

you think a Steam Deck is going to emulate a Steam 2 when it's arguably more powerful than it?

Interesting..

Vits58d ago

We're going to have to wait and see. Currently, there's no technology that would allow a Steam Deck 2 to achieve a performance leap over the Steam Deck 1 similar to what the Switch 2 offers over the Switch 1, without sacrificing the device's portability.

We'll either need AMD to seriously improve the efficiency of their cores, so we can get something with the rasterization power of a Radeon 8060S but without the power consumption of an Xbox Series S, or Valve would have to invest heavily in a translation layer for ARM. Neither of these paths is easy to achieve, so we probably shouldn't expect a Steam Deck 2 for at least a 3 or 4 more years.

Inverno59d ago

Considering that other companies have shat out multiple PC handhelds already while Valve hasn't even mentioned a successor tells me they aren't looking to compete with anyone. They went for a console experience and that includes holding off on new hardware til there's a generational leap.

--Onilink--59d ago

None of those other companies can realistically compete with Valve either. Valve can sell the hardware for a minimal gain and still know they are for the most part, just having every user still use Steam.

Every other handheld has to make its profit entirely on the hardware, which is why most of them went for an even more PC enthusiast market/price point

That is the one point where Nintendo does compete with Valve, or Sony with their rumored handheld or even more so MS, if they release a first party handheld (with a decent version of handheld windows)

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Amenalien59d ago

What many people don't get is that most of Steam Deck users have a high-end or at least a good enough PC alongside the Steam Deck. Yes, we like better graphics and higher refresh rates and we get them in our PC, we are not relying on the Steam Deck for them. We use the Deck for other reasons and in other eventualities, where we are willing to compromise on all these things, because we still get to enjoy them when we can/feel like it in the PC. Thus, a direct comparison with a sole device like the Switch is misplaced. Of course you need the Switch 2 to be strong if there is no stronger alternative to play your games in. By the way I got a Switch on day 1 and I loved it, it's just that I'm not really playing it anymore.

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