Sony PlayStation 3 Hardware May Not Be Finalized

According to the information provided by sources familiar with the matter, game developers used high-performance PCs to showcase what the PlayStation 3 game consoles will be able to deliver to gamers. At least some of the game developers masked personal computers inside the showcase stands and put a PS3 case so that attendees would believe that they see the real working game consoles and the real games. However, no attendees could actually touch the consoles, or to play the PlayStation 3 games during the exhibition.

The game developers who did not run their demos on the pre-release Sony PlayStation 3 hardware, used high-performance personal computers, such as those featuring high-speed Nvidia GeForce 7900 graphics cards in SLI mode or even ATI's Radeon X1900 in CrossFire mode. While neither ATI, nor Nvidia would confirm such information, the sources claimed that at least some game developers used PC hardware to demonstrate the PS3 demos.

[deepio]

Err...leaving it a bit late aren't we Sony..??

[ssj04]

HOw does using a PC to run some games = PS3 Delay?
YOu know, I just notice this and all of you M$ fans are just stupid for going crazy for this stupid article.
M$ did it and i didn't see no Damn delay... Stupid ass mind going around this place here.

May I add:

Nvidia said to exspect the ps3 games to be neare the Quad SLI GPU Graphic.... check vid near the end when he said it.
http://www.gametrailers.com...

[Jay da 2KBalla]

those g5s were alpha kits so what are you talking about?

[OutLaw]

I know how he loves to prove a case(ssj04) which I was hoping that this was it. But no. It sounds like we really don't know what the cell chips could do and if Sony could pull this off. Thats all I have to say on this so ssj04, don't write me.

[Lucidmantra]

Quarreling with ssj? LOL. You know what PS3 will have issues. Nothing will come out that will completely be 100% free of bug especially when it is new technology. I like 360, and it might seem a little odd for me to stand up for PS3 but I am tired of all this, anyone who is rational and intelligent will not think the ps3 is going to come and be the second coming of Christ. It will be a console system, about the same at 360, plus or minus 20-30%. Why do we need to reiterate this on a daily basis that it is new technology and they are having problems? We know it to be true. Saying this over and over to Sony fanbois/nuts is like trying to tell a 60 year old Christian that god doesn't exist, they believe he does. The SOny superfans believe the PS3 will smoke the competition and open the sky up and cause there to be peace on earth, or at least for it to smoke the "Xbug" "Sexbox" "Xbox 1.5" it very well might. Sony has invested BILLIONS into a new technology. Beyond the PS3 if it works sony stands to make tons of money. Personally I hope SOny and Microsoft duke it out head to head for this and the next generation because competition breeds advancement, and they will be forced to raise the bar and show something spectacular.

[USMChardcharger]

i was shocked to see ssj04 put this up because some would read into this as bad for sony...so was he trying to help his cause or hurt it?

[Anerythristic26]

If this is true the PS3 will not launch in November. This a rumor that Sony needs to squash. I was actually getting a little suspicous but will give it till August. It was around that time that the MS camp started talking about actual production plans releaing finalzed game case and box design and strated showing solid actual gameplay. I have to put a vote in for a Spring 07 delay any takers.

[ssj04]

The final dev kits was ment to be release last month, so I don't know how to go about this artilce.

[FamoAmo]

I think if the PS3 doesn't launch in November Sony will pull the plug on it! With the Wii out in November the x-mas holiday Sony would take a huge loss and I am not to sure they will launch but until it's confirmed let's not all get to excited! :)

[USMChardcharger]

so...you are actually being normal and posting an article to say, "man i hope this is not true, but i need to tell my fellow gamers about this."
if so, cool...i hope to see and have some mature debates with you.

[Bill Gates]

Final Dev. kits are due to ship out in June not May, not April. June!!!!!

[LK]

sometimes adding alot of feature to a console isn't all that great. i would of got the ps3 if it was just a gaming console. look at wii and 360 simple gaming consoles. not an entertainment console. not forcing you to buy an over rated hd-drive.

[Gamer13]

Im happy i have a Xbox 360 to play some amazing games. But i don,t care when the PS3 comes out ill get it when it does.

[TheMART]

Sony's new product in line that's going down:

1. Betamax
2. Minidisc
3. UMD
4. BetaBluRay
5. PS3

[Bill Gates]

YOU'RE JUST A F4GGOT WHO LIKES TO HATE

[ssj04]

If it got delay, that could only mean one thing. The article is trying to say that There may be a possibility of PS3 GPU the "RSX" being as powerful as the 7900GTX SLI. I think most of you guys miss that part about the article.

[ACE]

what part of the article says that lol...

it kind of says the demos they show'd at e3 MIGHT be over/under powerd .,,, from sonys history i would say over powerd ,, they have told aload of porkys after all .....

[Dusk]

I'll tell you what, Sony diehards certainly do try to put a positive spin on even the worst news. There is nowhere in the article that they say anything about the power of any PS3 component. This article isn't actually that down on Sony, though, except to imply that the PS3 may get delayed again. I don't think Sony will let that happen. Most likely, there will be an incredible shortage but Sony will release something. They have to, or they're done for. Either way, Sony's hurting, though. If Nintendo puts a lot of Wii's on the market, which seems likely since the Wii doesn't use much in the way of advanced (new) hardware, there will be way more 360's and Wii's at the stores. Many that have waited throughout Sony's deflating hype, may cave this fall and buy something else if they can't find a PS3.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

dont know where you saw that

[achira]

who cares what they do and what they did. they said the release is on 17. nov. so wait till this date. who wants to know what developers use to develop the games. i am sure the ps3 comes on 17.nov.

[OutLaw]

I have a feeling another delay or they're going to trash the project altogether. I want to know what developers use to develop the games. I'm playing the games on the system not on a high tech computer. So I would like to know what they can do with the kits they have.

[Lucidmantra]

If Sony Trashes PS3 they might as well throw in the towel, they will be way behind since it takes 3 years from paper to launch for a console now-a-days.

[ssj04]

But remember that the 360 games was running on the G5 before launch. There arn't much different here. If the games were to be uner powered than that would mean the RSX could turn out to be 7900GTX.

[DOLBY DI GA TAL pf]

Im proud of you, delay can happen for other reasons .

[shotty]

It doesn't matter that the ps3 were running on computers. What worries people is the developers abondened sony development kits and created their own. These kits were announced by sony to be final kits. All the developers at E3 2005 used the xbox 360 developement kits provided by Microsoft which were 2 Apple G5 that were linked together to show off the games. Sony can't afford another delay if it goes to spring 2007 then Microsoft can easily push out 15 million consoles. To me it doesn't matter when the ps3 is released because I have an xbox 360 and not planning on buying the ps3 but I need the competition between the 2 companies. Sony has been working on its system for too long, if anything scrape the cell and use something else.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

360 games were running on g5s but the hardware was finalized. BIG DIFFERENCE

[ssj04]

at E3, the PS3 were actually using the Dev Kits, and not any PC.
Check: Dev Kits
http://static.flickr.com/44...
http://static.flickr.com/47... ANd here is an Actual Working PS3 running WarHawk. So Delay just can't happen.
http://static.flickr.com/43...
http://static.flickr.com/36...

[Lucidmantra]

2 dont work, one of a game playing with no console available, and the last of a server stack that has no readily identifiable labeling?

Even if it was, the devstacks were crashing at E3. Hours after the accouncement of the release date. I hope they can manage the heat.

[USMChardcharger]

remember too, that until the ps3 launches alot of games that are going to be on both consoles will not come out until the ps3 does.
so for all gamers, it will be good for it to finally hit store shelves.

[DOLBY DI GA TAL pf]

It's the only reason i keep up with PS3 news, hurry up dam it!.

[USMChardcharger]

i hear ya

[ssj04]

Look to your left, and you'll see the PS3 siting next to the Screen.

Thoes are not at E3 floor the Working PS3 is in the Private Room

[Lucidmantra]

I did look. I see it is Warhawk that much is obvious.

[OutLaw]

I look to my right and I saw Bill Gates laughing. just messing with you. But I have a big LCD 61" projection tv that looks like the one they're sitting by. and I have to tell you that I could hook my PC to it. Also if you look at the picture it looks like a black PC right under the set so I'm not convince on the PS3 there.

[shotty]

honestly I don't want the ps3 to fail because having sony there helps motivate Microsoft to motivate itself and constantly strive to outshow the ps3. With the ps3 gone there is no more console war, the xbox 360 and wii will be in every home. I have an xbox 360 and sony better no give up because we need competition, I won't buy the ps3 but I need it there to compare things to and get Microsoft to push the envelope.

[shoota33]

you sound like an idiot. "sony dont give up" last time i check sony has more than 3x the market share as Ms. its the other way around ms should not give up or sony has no competitors.

[DOLBY DI GA TAL pf]

I hope Sony does'nt give up, Enron was big time too. You sound like an idiot by getting BUT hurt about it.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

you sound like an idiot because last time I checked sony is having massive dev problems and financial problems and serious competition from an underpriced innovative console(wii) and the 360 which will have sold 10 million units before ps3 even comes out and then theres xbox live and then sony has to worry about the quality of its launch titles(PS: MGS4 and killzone arent launch titles) and supply shortages so i can see what shotty was saying and yea I did just made you look like an idiot. lol

[DOLBY DI GA TAL pf]

And i need PS3 to fight J/K MS will push the envelope no matter what, they don't want to fight Sony, they just want to give gamers the best they can offer. plus you still have the dev's that will compete.

[ssj04]

Here is Cnet Showing the Working PS3 on a Vid.
They confirm is to be a fully working hardware...

If I don't post this Somone else will post it.

http://reviews.cnet.com/E3_...

[OutLaw]

I didn't see any PS3 being played just the controllers which could of been used with a high power PC's. Plus even though the guy claims to have seen it play doesn't mean it's true. Im not going to just take his word for it. If you listen to the interview he kinda sound bias against the 360 at the end. I say they're paying him under the table. LOL. But honestly no systems being shown thats the bottom line of that video.

[THE TRUTH]

I believe sony will not missed the nov date but I can say that I'm alittle worried. If by some chance they do delay the delayed date, it will be too late. It would be like shooting yourself in the head insead of the foot because they just told us the date at E3.

Im intersted in what Sony has in store for us at the TGS (I think thats the one coming up) I'm sure they have somethings under thier sleves i.e DMC4, Killzone 2

[Jay da 2KBalla]

they may be at TGS but they wont be at launch.

[ssj04]

What the damn Vid.

Cnet Confirm Working PS3.
http://reviews.cnet.com/E3_...

[OutLaw]

I seen the video there is no system being shown just controllers. Thats it, get over it already. You try to prove a case and you was the one that was debunk. I love when you get mad it makes my day.

[ssj04]

I have post a confirmation and you still being a stupid fanboy, which is impossible to convince. Gosh get a over it already, Just because I manage to debunk this stupid article you don't have to be lying to youself any longer man. I was trying to be nice and reasonable with you peoples but I do have my limite. SO STFU

[OutLaw]

Hey I invite anybody to see that video and the same results will come up. NO PS3 BEING SHOWN!!!! I love how you said GOSH.. Now I could call you Napoleon Dynamite. Thank you for the laughs.

[Phytonadione]

This reminds me of a video clip I saw a couple weeks ago (can't seem to find it now), where a E3 attendee captured on video an "actual" PS3 (at the very least a PS3 shell with blinking lights) hooked up to a tv, an outlet, and with another attendee playing a game. He seemed pretty convinced that the PS3 was actually up and running...but then again who knows what kind of pre-E3 partying he was doing before shooting that video....I surely wouldn't go to something like that sober :)

[ssj04]

You funny fool, I had seen all of you stupid post. You ant noting but M$ fanboys the top of line M$ fan. I don't need to convince you or any M$ fans anymore, you made me give up. haha, I'll go back to my old self and have fun with all of you stupid fawk. And if you're going to report me, fine by me. I don't blaim you at all, I would understand a lil biatch like you any BS is possible. LOL ahahha

[OutLaw]

I don't need to report you. You're doing a fine job by yourself. I don't need to get mad because I'm not a MS fanboy like you put it. I have a PSP,PS2. also I have a sony projection tv, DVD and a sony stereo. So me not liking sony is ridiculous. Do I trust them on this system no. But thats my opinion. You claim you want to change that. I'm not a little child that gets influenced in what others do. But a man who could think on his own. You should try it. I am a gamer thats it, and you're point with that video was wrong plain and simple.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

ssj04 is going to be reported by like 50 ppl lmao

[RelloC]

dude, no one is going to listen to a damn thing your ignorant 4ss says. you call everyone a M$ fanboy, when in turn , you are the biggest, let alone stupidest, sony fanboy that i have ever seen post. the sony fans don't even listen to you. its just like at home, no one likes you. pull the trigger.

[MISSY E]

He must have stock in Sony's PS3, PS3s melt ahhaha.

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[ssj04]

And MIssy, I think you need some mental help.

I'll bring more proof to the site than.

[COVER GIRL]

She does i know her.

[USMChardcharger]

good cause i was starting to like you.

we are all gamers...can't we all get along.

you guys knew someone was going to use that old line. lol

[THE TRUTH]

Why do you people think that the "average joe" in this country is so damn poor? Just look around you, how many cars do you see with shinny rims (I see 18" and up on hoopties) Look at the cell-phones, 360's, Ps2's in cars with DvD players and all that. 7 year old kids with PsP's and cell phones.

It's called keeping up with the Jones's and being up with the trend. The first hit rap song with the PS3 in it will be on the radio exposing it, and in some cases overexposing it.

Please be reasonable its not about them seeing more games on 360 its's when they go to Best-Buy and have to wait in line and jump over crowds to get a peek at the ps3, let alone get some playtime.(btw, same goes for wii). It's not a beyond belief situation that because the 360 has been out for so long it will have become "old news" and the rush/excitement from the holidays will be the launch pad for the ps3 and wii to push past the 360 by simply overshadowing it.

just a possible outcome.......

[Dusk]

Since no developer has a final dev kit (as of May), then the hardware isn't finalized. Doesn't mean Sony will miss the launch, since MS came out with the final dev kits in the summer before the launch last year as well. The difference (according to multiple reports from multiple sources) is that Sony seems to be having more problems than MS did at this time last year. What does this mean? There was an obvious shortage of 360's last fall, but there was no competition at the time, therefore people waited to get one. Sony needs to put out a lot more units this fall than MS did last fall because Sony has to deal with the already proven 360, its second batch of games, and the introduction of the Wii. If Sony doesn't, and it's not looking good, then most people (except Sony diehards) will gravitate to the other consoles, especially with MS's fall game line up. If Sony can't get the system to work in time, well then they need to stick with TV's and DVD players.

[USMChardcharger]

i feel like sony will still make launch. they just might not produce as many consoles as planed. so expect some shortages and then they will get things going the following year.

it takes some bumps and bruises to get a new piece of hardware like the ps3 and the 360 out.

every one was hard on M$, but you have to agree they did a good job regardless. i am sure sony will do the best they can too...which will not please everyone...but then again, you can't please everyone.

[ssj04]

If you guys still claiming that warhawk is runing on a Computers with a gpu of 7900GTX SLI, But know that the game is only 30% complete. Only 30% complete and it need the top of the line GPU to run it. Come to think of it, The PS3 Gpu might as well be powerful as the 7900GTX SLI. To consider the fact that this article claim some of PS3 games were runing on a Top of the line PC. Now if the RSX were to be powerful as the 7900GTX SLI, than the 360 won't stand a chance and with a price of 600$. This is a major bargain, when cosidering the 7900GTX SLI GPU,and the Blu-Ray Player.
7900GTX SLI: 1400$
BLu-Ray Player: 1000$
WOW major ass kicking bargain right there.

[Moostache]

Seriously SSJ, who are you trying to convince?

You posted the article.
Then you posted comments about it.
Then you posted a "rebuttal" link.
Then you flamed.
Then you apologized.
Now you theorize about how great it all will be...

Dude, seriously, that is a classic cry for attention. Please get the appropriate consueling soon.

On topic - what difference does it make anyway? The system is sold to those who want it, it is too expensive to those who believe that and it is not available yet anyway.

Until the actual box is playable in MY HOUSE, I don't care how many articles, videos posts and what not are shown. Means less than nothing to me or anyone else for that matter...

[Dusk]

Instead of posting hardware comparisons of what you think, try looking up information first. Many tech sites have already compared the 360's GPU to the PS3's GPU and the 360's has across the board been claimed to be better. However, the potential of the cell has been claimed by those same tech sites to be greater than the potential of the 360's tri-core, albiet more difficult to program for. So far, the cell has been giving Sony problems, but the potential is still there. In the end, all (including devs) but diehards from both sides feel the hardware/graphical/gameplay differences will be barely noticable or just not there. Right now, you should be more concerned with Sony actually getting the system to work on time. Once its games are on the market you can start comparing legit, instead of pointing to phantom-ware and what-ifs.

[greenlynxx]

Thank god for a voice of reason in this cacophony of craziness.

[gnothe1]

about sony's launch,I got a buddy, he's the manager of out local gamestop/eb, an he told me that there will be only 2 million systems for sale at launch world wide,with the majority being the 600 dollar model, which is less than what xbox 360 released with worldwide, so talk about shortages.then HE expects them to have the same kinda launch the N64 had,what I mean by that, is the N64 released with only 2 games,an thats what it looks like gonna be the deal here. all the big games there telling everybody about wont be out until 2007, but they aint saying that!!an he's sony fan to heart, an was waiting on the ps3.but after playing the store demo's of the 360 they had to put up in the store, he just had to get the 360, now he's like unless sony show him something great he's not gonna buy it!!

[ken6271]

This does not suprise me at all...

[ssj04]

I know where are you going with this, but I'm telling thoes whom still claiming that the PS3 games shown at E3 06 were running on PC. The article claim that the PC is using the 7900GTX SLI and the X1900 Crossfire, if that is the case than the RSX gpu would most likely be upgrade it to the 7900GTX SLI. The others part of this theory is that the RSX is weaker than the 7900GTX SLI. If they have to use the 7900GTX SLI to run an uncomplete PS3 titles than that would mean the RSX is some what of an 7900GTX gpu in similarity.

[Dusk]

My point is not that the PS3 will suck or that it will be great. There is nothing in this article to say one way or the other. Nothing was confirmed by ATI or Nvidia and there is nothing to say that these 'high-end' computers were even tested by the incomplete PS3 software. Just because something is running on a high end computer doesn't mean it needs to. Does playing solitare on a $3000 gaming rig means it's better than Gears, MGS4, Halo3, FF etc.?

You can't tell anything from this article except that the PS3 is not finished and is having some sort of problems. Everything else is speculation. Hopefully, for Sony escpecially, the problems get ironed out before launch date. You have to admit, though, things are looking like, at the very least, there will be incredible shortages and game delays for the PS3. This has nothing to do with how good or bad the hardware will be though (unless Sony can't fix the problems with the cell). Personally, I, along with many tech sites and developers, think the hardware capability between both systems will be very similar. We'll see, though.

[PS360PCROCKS]

um who cares? Microsoft did the same and my 360's just great

[ssj04]

Ahh, But you are forgeting that is Article is base on an event during E3 and that is on may 10-12. I'm not suprise that the Final Dev Kits of the PS3 it's not fully complete during E3. But the Dev Kits had been confirm that it had been sent out on the 30 or is it the 31 of May. This article is simply trying to attract attention. what the article fail to point out is that E3 had ended long ago, if we were still in May than I would consider the possibility of Sony delay. The fact is that we are not still in May, we are now in June and the final Dev Kits had been sent out last month. I'm just trying to point out that there may be a possibility of the RSX being similar to the 7900GTX. if the RSX is base off of the 7800, than they could simply use the 7900GTX to run it and it will be smoot as the 7900GTX SLI trying to run a 7900GTX games.

[Joe]

SONY... YOU SUCK!!! How can you be running games on PC when people were thinking that it ran on the Cell processor? Sony is the one creating HYPE behind the CELL offering, yet you're proving it doesn't work!!! Sony should have stuck with using a processor like the XBOX360. The multi-core, multi-threaded processor closely resembles todays multicore,multithreaded CPUs in todays PCs.

[ssj04]

Did you even read the Article? Sound like you didn't and just red what ever the M$ fans had wrote. It said in speculation SOME of the PS3 developer might of run there games on a PC, but you could see clearly in an article or video that the game are really running on the Dev Kits. Before stating anything, peoplese should start reading it and understand it first.

[jiggajayp]

when are you ps3 fans gonna wake up and see sony 4 all of their bullcrap?

[ssj04]

than you should serioully go check out this games... because i think is one of your 360 title.

Look like the graphic didn't improve much from the xbox1... wow can't the 360 sound any more better than this... it's like playing the original xbox but with a price tage of 400$.

http://www.gametrailers.com...

[Jay da 2KBalla]

um its called a port

[gnothe1]

man I really really really hope you be the first person to get a ps3 because no matter what anybody has to say about the ps3 that you dont like, you run to there defence.xbox fans CAN talk alittle trash because they can actually play the thing. you defend everything!!!!, blue ray, why in the hell do I wanna start paying 40 dollars for blue-ray movies, when I can get them for 15 for standard dvds an 25 for hd-dvd's.not to mention that theres a chance that the ps3 games cost more than the 60 we pay for the 360 games because of the blue ray disc.defend that.we've played with that controller for the PS about 10 years now, its about time for a change,which they did, got scared then changed it back, defend that!!they laughed at ms for doing a world wide launch, now who's following suit, defend that also.they also critized MS for the dual sku's now look at them, they doing that to,since your always jumping to sony defence like your getting paid or something explain those!!an what is the ssj04 for super saiyan something, you must be young an a fellow sonysman.

[THE TRUTH]

practice what you preach, because you MS supporters are always the first ones putting down sony whenever good news is reported. Futhermore 95% of these negative statments come with no facts behind them to support or justify anything. Then you go on to personal attacks to ssj04 like you know him. Sounds like you need to take your own advice . Don't get mad because he supports one console over the other because that is his choice/opinion and he should be entiltled to it.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

He's not getting mad because he supports one console over the other its just frustrating at how ssj04 is some type of super fanboy or something. #34s point is that defending a console that you have never played, never touched, never seen in real life is well dumb. And getting personal? um no I think that its pretty obvious that the super saiyan thing was said because DBZ is a cartoon and gnotty is implyng that ssj04 is immature. Use common sens and stop trying to twist stuff.

PS- You said MS supporters are always bashing good news about the ps3 which is false. Hell last time I checked there never is any good news about the ps3. ha

[VirtualGamer]

I tried to discuss things with you XBOX 360 fans in a reasonable manner but its its becomve very evident who is the fanboys here. Your so willing to believe www.theinquirer.net when it reports that while on a filgth to Japan he just happens to sit beside a Sony guy who tells him all this horrible stuff about the PS3...many of the other fansites laughed at it and most of you here acted like it was So true like the fanboys you really are.Then when someone puts up a CNET interview sayign somethign good about the PS3..that they saw a actual PS3 unit running you totally dismiss it as BS. Anyone with half a brain would know CNET is far more reliable source for news then www.theinquirer but you fanboys only want to twist things to support your postion that the PS3 is going down.

This very article states that E3 last year had XBOX 360 games running on PC's just like Sony had this year.

"Back in May 2005 Microsoft used similar trick with the Xbox 360 which was set to be launched in November, 2005. During the E3 show the software giant used Apple PowerMac G5 systems featuring IBM PowerPC processors to run the games for the Xbox 360."

If you know your facts, final developement kits for the XBXO 360 went out later then Sony released theirs but all I hear is how this news is bad for Sony and they are not going to release in Nov. Why?? MS was in the same position or worse last year then Sony is now and there was no one running around saying OH MY GOD MS IS NOT GOING TO RELEASE THIS YEAR! MS IS GOING DOWN!!

But thats what you XBOX 360 fans are doing now and the amazing thing is when people bring up this fact about you Fanboys you all say ..oh we don't want to see Sony fail I might even buy one if they can get there act together but the reality if you go back and look at all your posts and what you have said proves otherwise. I also realize that your not going to change your minds or go away and that tryign to have rational conversation and discussion about the PS3 is just a waste of time.

While the swear words and personal attacks have toned down since the new site the XBOX 360 fans coming to the PS3 side and putting up 20 negative post for every positive PS3 post has not changed. I want a site where I can discuss the PS3 with fellow fans and not have to listen to a bunch of mindless XBOX fanboys who have to polute evey thread with the same old crap over and over again. I have debated some of you and held my own only to have the next news article posted and the same comments and stupidity posted all over again. I gets old real fast. I had hope the new site would change things but it has not. So XBOX fans have fun waging war on this site and bashing the PS3 but in the end you will have won nothing because the PS3 will release and it will be a great game system and Sony will have the last laugh and so will I.

[Lucidmantra]

Good Luck. Sony will have the last laugh because they will have your money. Just like MS and my money. People are allowed to talk where the hell ever they like. If you want to talk to PS fans then ignore the xbox360 people. Read my first responce above. Just because I am an XBox fan doesn't mean I am to stupid to see some of the things Sony are doing, I slag the PS3 but I give it its due in some areas. Why? Because I am a well informed gamer. Not a fanboi, I have my fave system sure. Your fave system isn't released yet and I hope you have alot of fun when it is released, I will probibly join you with a ps3 someday but you know what. Enter the arena with a rounded perspective it isn't going to be all that and a bag of chips... It is just a F00king gaming console. I like your post and know how you feel. I get tired of the back and forth all the time, just some people who post here who are fanbois are severly retarded and it is my job to try to educate them... Not change their minds but maybe give them a nuggent of information or something to consider for a second.

-Lucid

[greenlynxx]

"So XBOX fans have fun waging war on this site and bashing the PS3 but in the end you will have won nothing because the PS3 will release and it will be a great game system and Sony will have the last laugh and so will I."

Your "article" sounded great until you negated everything you said in this final statement. To bad you are no better than the "xbugs" you are refering to.

Your problem is that you don't want a news site you want a fanbois site. You don't want to intelligently discuss gaming news, which is what this site is about, but would rather hold hands with other fanbois and gush about how great Sony is. Essentially you are a Sony worshipper. Worshippers won't stand for any negative comments about their "god" even when it might be warranted. Again this is a news site. I come here to discuss the news. If it is bad news for any console then I want to be able to discuss it in that light. If you want to worship a console/company that go someplace else.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

First of all yeah there had to be working ps3 dev units because there reports of dev units crashing and burning at e3 lol so ea of course they were there.

2 the 360 had alpha dev units at e3 that were running on g5s same as the ps3 dev units running on Nvidia graphic cards and whatever pc. The difference however is that microsofts hardware was finalized however sonys is not. Hell the blu-ray stuff still isnt figured out so how about you learn your facts virtual. ha

[sLoP]

This is kind of trite of me, but I am inclined to ask your age. It’s not a pervasive thing; it’s in the interest of a theory I have.

From what I have been seeing of you, you are excellent at finding information, and for that I commend you. And sometimes you put up a decent argument, in this case you are going with speculation, as is everyone else.

Now for the points against your age.
1. You are a Sony fan. Don’t go crazy on me, but it is a fact that generally the Sony fans online are young and very un-technologically oriented (which you are not, surprisingly).

2. Grammar, spelling, terrible:
Example: "Did you even read the Article? Sound like you didn't and just red what ever the M$ fans had wrote. It said in speculation SOME of the PS3 developer might of run there games on a PC, but you could see clearly in an article or video that the game are really running on the Dev Kits. Before stating anything, peoplese should start reading it and understand it first."
Do you have something against the letter 'S'?
I can see at least 4 grammatical errors there, and over 10 spelling errors. Work on that please, it will add to your online age.

3. And the last point against you...You're name is ssj04, which you most undoubtedly know is derived from Dragon Ball Z. And since this site was just recently opened, you chose that name not that long ago. Now, I understand that grown men at times do like anime, but not often.

So my guess at your age would be 12-15...Please tell me if I’m far off. You will most likely lie, so I don’t really care, but hey I just wrote this to pass the time.

[Lucidmantra]

Hey I got crappy typing and spelling sometimes too and I am over 30, but usually I am posting from work in a hurry. I am glad I can edit at least a little now. Also in my job it does not pay to underestimate the abilities of people who are 20 years my junior, younger kids are not stupid.. They just need some experiance. It is a part of growing wiser, but it is my job to instill these younger people with the things they do need to do in situations that will be less than conduesive to time to think, and rational deduction. I might say your just a dumb kid, but I was there once and I wanted to be heard, and the smarter adults let me talk and said... You think that now but you will learn, but they did listen. And you know what i did learn.

I will say this I do agree that MOST of Sony fans have no clue about PC technology, what a pipeline is, how computers work, what the difference is between DDR, GDDR and DDR2 is, the difference between brute processing over multithreeaded processing... etc. etc. I encourage them to find out. Learning is not taboo.

[sLoP]

Thank you for your input. But I might add, in no way did I once call him stupid. On the contrary, if he does happen to be the age I guessed, I would commend him on his extraordinary ability to find news, and research.

It was just a way of attempting to guess an age off of internet personality.

[Lucidmantra]

I wasn't taking a shot at you I agree with the age range, I was just stating a point about KIDS or younger folks.

[greenlynxx]

Your comment regarding anime is not entirely correct. Anime as a genre is very wide and includes many age ranges. While Dragon Ball Z is must definately oriented to a younger crowd it is not in any way definitive of the entire genre. Perhaps you comment would have been better put if you had said that in the US most adults do not watch, or prefer to watch anime.

[sLoP]

Yes, and I agree with it, without a doubt.

[96impala]

Yes, I also agree that the pos3 is sh!t

[kingboy]

Just before E3 all kinds of rumours about ps3 not even working,cell not working,but yet demos where running on E3..And i knew after E3 this little internet f@cks will start with their rumours again.I guess this will come to an end as from november..cuz it`s just too much..like 4-5 rumours a week.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

E3 didnt prove anything. Those demos were running on early hardware with pcs and sony still hasnt finalized the hardware so for all we know cell isnt working my guess is that the cell hasnt even been fully produced yet and as far as ps3 not working well thats obvious bs because not a single ps3 has been manufactured. sooooooooooooooooo what are you talking about

[THE TRUTH]

Why do you Ms fans attack ssj04 for his views and opinions?

Practice what you preach, because you MS supporters are always the first ones putting down sony whenever good news is reported. Futhermore 95% of these negative statments come with no facts behind them to support or justify anything. Then you go on to personal attacks to ssj04 like you know him. Sounds like you need to take your own advice . Don't get mad because he supports one console over the other because that is his choice/opinion and he should be entiltled to it.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

Thats not the case. Hes being attacked for his atrocious spelling, terrible grammar, f*cked up logic,and the fact that he has said bs to anyone that posts something that is against what he said no matter how civil. Look at what he said to outlaw.

[gnothe1]

I wasn't attacking him because of his choice,that what he does,anybody that doesnt like the ps3 he flames them!!I just stated how he ALWAYS!! jumps to sony defence like he HAS an actual working ps3.then fan boy im not ,im a gamer,nes,snes,sega master system,gensis, psp,ps,ps2,n64 with only killer instinct,dreamcast,an xbox360,I also got a 61 in sony hi def tv with dual hdmi, so talk what you know, oh, I also got 2 sony explode 12 in speakers in the chrysler 300m, so fan boy I am not,but look at his post, if I dont like ps3 im an idiot, if I like the 360 im an idiot, so who's attacking who!

[Jay da 2KBalla]

Exactly and well said.

[Anewbus]

come on everybody, were all people and gamers, we should be able to respect each others decisions to get whatever system we want, but the best way to lighten up and respect each other is through jokes............ on wikipedia (might have been removed): Dreamcast-the perfect fishing cast/ sega's 2nd gen console that ultimatly tried to steal Sonys thunder, also see Xbox 360.

How many fanboy's does it take to screw in a lightbulb................3 one to screw in the lightbulb and the other two to argue over how they could have done it better

and for the sony joke, I haven't been able to find a good one yet so if you have you please tell me

hope this lightened everybody up so we dont go on flaming wars or bashing systems with no fact or reason.

[Moostache]

The real answer is unknown...
One will put in the bulb.
Another will tell him how much better the light would be if they had used HIS bulb instead.
A third will tell them both that light is overrated and its not the "quality of light" that matter as much as the things you can do in that light now.
Finally, unknown, annonymous trolls will come out on internet forums and viciously attack all three forever.

[clayton]

http://www.ctrlaltdel-onlin...

[user9422077]

rofl