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Nintendo: Wii U Is Not a "Brute Force" Console.

Nintendo Admits: Wii U Will Not Compete Against PlayStation 4, Xbox Next

Nintendo has admitted that while its forthcoming Wii U game console will support high-definition graphics and will be rather powerful, it will not be able to compete with the next-generation systems from Microsoft Corp. or Sony Corp. in terms of performance as they will be ultra-powerful. Instead, Nintendo calls its approach balanced as it features both improvements and exclusive technologies.

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ChickeyCantor4466d ago

Nowhere do I read anything about "brute force".
Nintendo doesn't even know what the hardware of the other consoles is going to be.

Kain814466d ago

This is the Title the source has used, its not from me.
Nintendo in general is more about innovation than pure Evolution and i think this is their main Charm, at least for me

ChickeyCantor4466d ago (Edited 4466d ago )

Im not calling you out on it.
Just that the writer is spinning the source.

No one knows what Sony or MS will do next.
So for Nintendo to say they aren't competing on a technical level is out of the blue.

Iwata was refering to the fact that while it is able to output HD, not all games need HD content.
And as usual Nintendo is just doing their own thing.

Colwyn4466d ago

Wii u will be powerful enough for the fans

ronin4life4466d ago

I take your comment as a complement.
I also think the wiiu will be powerful enough for me. ^_^

mike1up4466d ago

*... and the Grinch's heart grew 3 sizes that day... etc.*

I agree... Now go save Christmas!

MariaHelFutura4466d ago

I think Nintendo should just stop talking and show what it can do.

mike1up4466d ago (Edited 4466d ago )

Nintendo is like that (ex)girlfriend that you never get rid of. Right now we are in the early dating stage.

When you first start dating everthing is fine. She tells you what you want to hear, makes all of those incredible promises...

Then you move into together, and you see her for exactly what she is.

You can either:

A. Hold her accountable for every single promise that she made. And constantly compare her to the other more "attractive" ladies on the market. Blaming her for not being them.

or

B. Remember and embrace the good old times that got you to that point. And never expect her to be someone other than herself.

gypsygib4466d ago (Edited 4466d ago )

Well it already looks like the next Xbox and PS4 will be somewhat regular powered so Wii U can best be described as under powered.

Wii U will essentially be what the Wii was this gen in terms of power.

I guess Nintendo is forgoing major 3rd party support again.

2EHO4466d ago

Wow how you come up with that? Many developers have stated Nintendo personally asked them what they wanted from the hardware. Simply put the wii u will be able to run next gen engines and get third party games.....easy as that.m

gypsygib4465d ago

Wii U will be closer to PS3/360 than to PS4/NexBox

Wii was closer to PS2/Xbox than to PS3/360

.: Wii U seems to be analogous to what the Wii was this gen.

There are a lot of great games not on Wii because it lacks the power so when major 3rd party devs start making AAA games for the next-gen systems, Wii U likely won't have the power to support a version

Say by-by to games like RDR2, GTA6, Batmans, ACs, Mass Effects, Bioshocks, Oblivions or any multiplat made for PS4/NexBox in mind.

GameTavern4466d ago

So this is a game we can play?

Take a quote, interpret however we want, and then write an article explaining said quote based on how we want to read it.
And pass it off as official confirmation from the company?

pucpop4466d ago

not brute force, more date rape?

Rayko4466d ago

Well. Nintendo is good at making "FUNNY TO PLAY" videogames like Wii party, Wii sports etc. They also have the best first-party games. On the technical side they seem to not care that much about having the best visuals anymore. They rather do something new, which will enhance gameplay more and be more funny to play.

Microsoft will go for Kinect next generation with not so much power. PS4 might not even come out. Anyway Nintendos machine is a must and one out of microsofts or SONYs are a must as well, not both. I made a huge misstake buying both 360 and PS3 this gen. They are like twins but with a different look.

Mikhail4466d ago

I bought 360 and PS3 as well together with a gaming PC. Both offer unique things for me, well that's my view on it
360-some multiplats,kinect, exclusives
ps3-blue ray, exclusives, some multiplats
PC-Exclusives, most multiplats.

CGI-Quality4466d ago

I disagreed when you first said Nintendo has the best 1st party games (subjective regardless), but once you said "PS4 may not even come out", you completely lost me, and I'm sure I'm not alone.

OT: While I was initially excited for the Wii U before it was unveiled, if Nintendo can get some kind of controller that is able to work with most genres, I'll jump back on the bandwagon. I think they can hit all the right notes if they cater to all demographics.

Rainstorm814466d ago

" PS4 might not even come out "

*sniff* *sniff*......Do i smell a troll?

You cant be serious....or can u?

Rayko4466d ago

I have a PS3 and loved Heavy Rain and Uncharted a lot. I think I even have more PS3 games than Wii or Xbox 360 games. I hope a PS4 will come out for sure but rumours are heard that PS4 might not even come out, not from me but from others. Hope it will come out within the next 2 years at least and be a beast.

olLANDSHARKlo4465d ago

Rainstorm how is xbox live treating you nowadays, oh thats right, you got banned for burning games. Microsoft and Sony both know your burning games, but sony has done nothing, great service isn't it, let pirates and cheaters on their service. you better hope the PS4 comes out or you won't have a console to play on. You can check his old gamertag Rainstorm81 on xbox live or his new non gold account, cause he got banned Death Reignstrm, if you fanboys don't believe me.

BitbyDeath4466d ago

"PS4 might not even come out."

Some first party devs have already announced they are working on it. Those reports were false.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10110d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21839d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos9d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai10d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197210d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21839d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto9d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic9d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel17d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8816d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing16d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS15d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder15d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218315d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.