It looks like Wal-Mart may have revealed the new Zunes price tage a few months earlier than expected
Since Wallyworld typically undercuts everybody else by a slim margin, it's not hard to deduce that it will retail for $299. That seems to have been the price everyone else speculated that they'd have. No big surprise, but still nice to know.
well im hapy with my second gen Nano I know loads ofpeps hate iPods but for me all I want is an MP3 player which plays music and it does that perfectly :D plus it like $150 cheaper than the Zune
well yah if you don't want video, wifi, and 3 times the space it's only 150 cheaper. It just depends on your wants.
I cant decide to get weither or not to get this thing for christmas or wait indefinitely for the gaming zune, what would you guys do?
A 30GB Vidoe Ipod here is 339.99 and you have to pay to put movies on it form iTunes. So when you look at a M$ product that is only 299.99 and they dont care how you put your music and videos on, like the PSP, just bigger HDD, an online music store and wifi. Which i think is a hell of a lot better than Ipod. Ipods are so hyped up and cost so much for very little they do. Thats why i waited.
plus bigger screen, and hopefully less format blocks. I want to be able to put any song from limewire on this thing. However 300 is out of my league and will probably wait.
I really don't like ipods either. But you're wrong about MS not caring how you put your music or videos on the Zune. They are going to use DRM. Digital Rights Management (generally abbreviated to DRM) is any of several technologies used by publishers (or copyright owners) to control access to and usage of digital data (such as software, music, movies) and hardware, handling usage restrictions associated with a specific instance of a digital work. The term is often confused with copy protection and technical protection measures (TPM). These two terms refer to technologies that control or restrict the use and access of digital media content on electronic devices with such technologies installed, acting as components of a DRM design. Digital Rights Management is a controversial topic. Advocates argue DRM is necessary for copyright holders to prevent unauthorized duplication of their work to ensure continued revenue streams. Some critics of the technology, including the Free Software Foundation, suggest that the use of the word "Rights" is misleading and suggest that people instead use the term Digital Restrictions Management. The position put forth is that copyright holders are attempting to restrict use of copyrighted material in ways already granted by statutory or common law applying to copyright. Others, such as the Electronic Frontier Foundation consider some DRM schemes to be anti-competitive, citing the iTunes Store as an example. Enterprise Digital Rights Management (E-DRM or ERM) refers to the use of DRM technology to control access to corporate documents (Word, PDF, TIFF, AutoCAD files, etc), rather than consumer playable media. The technology usually requires a Policy Server to authenticate users' rights to access certain files. EDRM vendors include Microsoft, Adobe Systems, EMC Corporation/Authentica and several smaller companies. There are open source implementations as well. EDRM is generally intended to apply to trade secrets, which are much different from copyrighted material (though there is sometimes an overlap with material being both copyrighted and a trade secret -- eg, software source code), and for whom the primary issue is industrial or corporate espionage or inadvertent release. In most jurisdictions, there is no notion of fair use of trade secrets as there is for copyrighted material. Trade secrecy confidentiality measures are less controversial than DRM applied to copyrighted material, which is commercially sold in many copies.
Outlaw, I really hope you didn't type all that out on my account but thanks for the heads up on DRM. Anyways is it relatively easy to bypass that.
what i meant was, that you dont have to buy music or videos from a store like you do from iTunes, although yea i know Ipods you dont have to buy them from the store, but on the video Ipod you have to buy from Itunes. But yea i knew that they were using DRM. I am just meaning that the zune, is like the PSP, all you have to do is download the music or movies and put it on the zune, unlike Ipod, where you have to go through iTunes and all that stuff.
You do not have to buy videos from iTunes to put them on your video iPod. I have tons of anime, movies, and music videos that I'd already had that I just put on there.
I really don't know if there is a way to bypass that. That's why at the moment I use Creative products. I already have the Creative Zen Vision M which is a 30GB and this year they're coming out with the 60GB, both plays back any format of music and videos. Also yesterday I ordered the Creative Zen W that just came out the other day. So far I had no problem using any program for it, if you know what I mean.
Yah well I know there's programs to bypass ipods security, so I'm thinking why would zune be any different. Eventually numerous programs are going to be made to get past that I'm sure. It just stinks the big wigs have to be meanies about it. But completely understandable for the music industry lobbying.
There is a 30GB iPod Video with a now 60% brighter screen that retails for $249 so Microsoft is going to have a hard time competing with the iPod. There is no doubt about that. And honestly i just don't think that Zune will catch on.
What do you just have something agaisnt all Microsoft products dipshit?
I just think that microsoft has to Put something better than this to take down the iPod. And this doesn't look like a very mainstream Product either. The design also needs improvement and the Price should be $249 to compete with the 30GB iPod Video. Microsoft has a long way to go to catch up to the iPod. And i think even a microsoft extremist fanboy like you knows that.
your right, 300 for the zune is pricey, even though the screen is bigger then the ipod its still a product thats trying to compete with the ipod video and does the same things, yeah it has wifi but thats it, it doesnt do much more and since they are trying to compete then 300 is way to much, 229 to 249 is more like it and then its still to much, so is the ipod, they are just to much money, the psp is alot cheaper but with a nicer screen and plays games besides all of the other features, granted the psp has no memory so ill give oyu that.
PSP, what that isn't the same...twice as big, 4gb hdd, the screen's horrible, and isn't comfortable. Stick to the "apple owning microsoft" argument that people like you make.
This wont make ant difference apple is still going to win. Apples ipod is better and has a better way of managing files drag and drop!! This will be another failure!!!
I dont think that teh Zune will grab the MP3 market.. I mean Apple and its iPods take up something like 76% of the MP3 market. Thats a lot of paying customers is 76% including myself :D I truly think the Zune will at first fail but like a 2nd or 3rd gen will come out and start to truly compete with the Nanos and iPod videos
Everything have to be a Win/Loose war with every fanboy. For the most part Companies that that are underdogs entering a new market already have a steep hill to climb and I'm sure they already know what they are up against. You just don't bring out a product and expect 90% of the competition to jump right in. It always takes time for underdogs. They get better overtime. Then one day you'll see a major "UPSET."(Providing they get better over time) See, if there was no competition, the market-share would be high for certain products and the prices would be sky-high. Ofcourse we don't want that. We want good products that will continue to be updated while staying competitive in price. I'm on my 3rd Ipod and I never liked Itunes, I have been using anaPOD software, which is way better. well the battery died on one and would not charge. For the other, my HDD started to click and kept giving me errors. So I'm done with Ipods. I gotta say "Apple" sure knows how to Milk a product and do very well with marketing. The Itunes store was the best thing that happened to them but that software sucks. That's the only reason I think most people got them Ipods. All the little changes they make and add an Extra $100 is not worth it in my book, plus the headaches of getting it fixed. I love music and will welcome this player, after testing it and stuff ofcourse. I remember when I got my first player, it was a "Nomad 2c" with 156 megs of ram. "Creative" still has better sound IMO. Most users would not care for that, since "CASUALS " make up the bigger % of most products Marker-Share. Bring on the competition " I luv it". Guys luv it or hate it but it doesn't have to be a win/loose situations with competing products. We win in the end with upgrades and useful features and competitive prices. If your any kind of enthusiast then you know what I mean.
almost everyone who owns a 360 is going to buy a zune, including myself. Gre he he he eaaassy.
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